Topic : Living with Chronic Pain

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November 3, 2005, 9:43 pm PST

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I too have fibromyalgia complicated by rheumatoid arthritis. No one can understand the pain, sometimes never ending pain that a person with fibro. must suffer. It is a constant struggle to deal with this ailment  we have, especially when we show no signs of illness except for the sign of pain on our face. I think you are a very loving daughter to look for others with your mother's illness so that she has someone to relate to. You are so right that no one can empathize with a person with our illness unless they have it.  

I would love to be an e-mail pal to your mom. Maybe she can help me make it through the day a little more comforting knowing I have someone to talk to and that can relate to my everyday life. I sure have the time to e-mail, I am at this time working on getting my disability. So I am home usually everyday, dealing with what life offers me today, whether a very bad day of pain, aches, down in the dumps mood or a half way decent day where I can hope to do alittle housework. 

Please have your mom e-mail me or send me her address and will e-mail her.  

  My address is morous61@yahoo.com. 

  Yours truly, 

  Maureen 

 Hey I'll email you tomorrow  evening and give you my mom's addy.  I'm so glad you wrote!  I wish I could take everyone's Fibro pain and shoot it to the moon. :)
Hope you have a good painless as possible day!
Michele

 
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November 4, 2005, 12:46 am PST

Living with Chronic Pain

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 Hi everyone!  My mom has fibromyalgia and is in pain all the time. She was diagnosed about 5 years ago but has lived with it longer than that.  She also has severe Depression.  So I was just wondering if any of you had Fibro and would like an email buddy.  I think it would be good for her to chat with someone about this.  I try to talk with her but I think it would be more helpful if she talked to someone who knew exactly what she was going through.  Get in touch with me if you like.  Thanks!  Michele

Michele,   I have FM and RA.  I have found that on line support groups have been a life saver for me.  I receive unconditional love, support and encouragement, plus news about research and new medical treatments or drugs.  More importantly I get to give support to others.  Thinking about and wanting to help a friend can really help chase the depression monster away.   Love and support from family is very important to FM sufferers but so is doing for for ourselves. Please encourage your mom to search for a group that she feels comfortable and at home.   Because chronic pain can be depressing, part of my treatment plan includes an anti-depressant.   I also see my doctor on a regular schedule to monitor my pain levels and my over all health.  Finding a doctor that understands FM can be difficult and costly but worth the search.   Your mom will find it helpful to read about FM.   There are many good books some with different outlooks on FM.  The more you know about it the better you can converse with your doctor.    Your mother is very lucky to have such a caring and loving daughter.    Panowl 

 
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November 6, 2005, 12:55 pm PST

Panowl

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Michele,   I have FM and RA.  I have found that on line support groups have been a life saver for me.  I receive unconditional love, support and encouragement, plus news about research and new medical treatments or drugs.  More importantly I get to give support to others.  Thinking about and wanting to help a friend can really help chase the depression monster away.   Love and support from family is very important to FM sufferers but so is doing for for ourselves. Please encourage your mom to search for a group that she feels comfortable and at home.   Because chronic pain can be depressing, part of my treatment plan includes an anti-depressant.   I also see my doctor on a regular schedule to monitor my pain levels and my over all health.  Finding a doctor that understands FM can be difficult and costly but worth the search.   Your mom will find it helpful to read about FM.   There are many good books some with different outlooks on FM.  The more you know about it the better you can converse with your doctor.    Your mother is very lucky to have such a caring and loving daughter.    Panowl 

 My mom did start a support group in her town.  But they haven't met in months.  I hate to see that. She needs to get the group going again.
Is there any type of exercises that work for Fibro?  I heard deep massages help.  My mom could get those paid for by her insurance company but she doesn't do it.   I just don't think she takes very care of herself.  I wish she would do some of the things her doctor has suggested.  Like the massage.  She just  pretty much sleeps all the time.  Do you do that too? Sleep allot? 
Thanks Panowl!
Michele
 

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November 6, 2005, 8:19 pm PST

Oy Vey

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I too suffer from CP due to MS + mvp. No reason for anyone to continue to suffer like you all do. Get thee to a pain specialist #1. Secondly, haver y'all tried methadone for pain management. Not the kind of methadone addicts use but the kind they give people living in pain. Methadone, unlike morphine or any other opiate allows you to have a life, unhindered by walking around like a zombie. You think clearly. You are pain free. And you get your life back! Many people, after getting settled in with a proper dosage, actually find they can attempt to get back into the work world again - part time or whatever. But the main thing is that all or most of the things you enjoy doing - that make your life worth living again - you can do again. Your old body may not let you run themarathons you used to do but at least you will be able to walk to the neighbours, or tend your roses. Please get to a pain specialist who has the ability to prescribe methadone and is well trained. I, too, went through the epidurals every month for pain management and it a'int fun. And by the way, no one get's addicted to opiates including methadone, if you are using it for which it was intended.

>>>>tried methadone for pain management. Not the kind of methadone addicts use but the kind they give people living in pain. Methadone, unlike morphine or any other opiate allows you to have a life, unhindered by walking around like a zombie.>>>>> 

  

So NOT true!  First, methadone is methadone.  There's no special formula for heroin junkies versus pain patients.  To say one can only use Methadone in order to function is ridiculous. 

One can use any opioids/opiate and not walk around like a zombie when the med is dosed and titrated properly.   

  

I've been on a 24 hr release of morphine for the last 2 yrs and am far from a zombie.  In fact, even taught science at an elementary school for 4 yrs.  Pain managment gives you your life back- methadone does not. 

  

Also, ANY doctor with a DEA number can prescribe any medication- scheduled or not.  Even nurse practioners with DEA numbers can prescribe scheduled medication (in CA). 

Pain specialists are not always the best choice for chronic pain patients.  They are usually anethesiologists who want to try procedures like epidurals, killing nerves, etc.  My pain management doctor is a family physician.  Any doctor can treat your pain if he/she's willing. 

  

  

>>>And by the way, no one get's addicted to opiates including methadone, if you are using it for which it was intended. >>>> 

  

This is true!  People who use pain medications for physical pain are less than 1% likely to become addicted.  When you use medication for your emotional pain, that is addiction. 

 

  

Nicole 

systemic lupus  

fibromyalgia 

hypothyroid 

restless leg syndrome 

hypoglycemia 

excessive daytime fatigue 

osteoarthritis 

tachycardia 

etc.... all before 30yrs old 


 

 
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November 7, 2005, 9:37 am PST

looking for support in amsterdam

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Hi, 

  

Like the title said. 

  

I have found my way here. 

  

I know since dec 2003 that I've fibromyalgia (fibromyalgie). My world fell apart. Because I was only 28 at that time. I found it unfair. Why me, that young. I want so much, but my future has change, not knowing what kinda work I could do.  

Just sitting at home feeling sorry for myself.  

  

Very slowly, with help from my parents and friends I crawl back.  

  

But my turning point was, when I was at de youthmeeting for youngs with FM. I realise, if I want to work again, I have to change the way of living.  

I need structure in my life. Each day I wake up at same time, if the pain hasn't woke my up to early. And very slowly I walked 10 minutes, three times a day. And now, 6 months later I walk 2 times half hour.  

I even dare to think about working again. I've started wit a hobby study pshychologie (don't know engelish word anymore). Now I know I want to help others with the same illnes, especially young ones. Because the have differents problems. Study, school, work, relationship, kids or not.  

So I decided when I have enough money I wil go to do study psychologie on high level.  

  

Right now I ork on a book, youth with firbomyalgia. because there is no books that is focus on them, but talking about others problems. And some one has be the first, so I decided that.  

  

2004 was not my year. 2005, up till now, is has been my year. I became stronger and now I know, there is for a reason that I have FM. To help others. To carring out my positive.  

I write on my own site every day journal. 

and I hear from them that my story help them to lift up to. Not to feel alone with there feelings.  and because I try look everything on the bright side. 

  

Yes of course I have my bad days, I wil always have bad days. But my good days are more. Step by step I get what I want. 

  

But I was wondering, do the Americans goverment reckonise FM, for the Dutch do not. We have to fight and struggle to get something done. But how is that in America? 

  

Sincerly, paulien 

 hello paulien!
i was very happy to read that you are in the netherlands.  i am an american and i moved from georgia, usa, with my husband and four year old son to amsterdam.  i am 28 years old and i have had fm for five years.  for me the problems and symptoms began after i got very sick with a high fever when i was 6 months pregnant with my little boy.  when i gave birth to him, i had 17 hours of labor and finally had to have an emergency c-section.  after that things got very bad and i was diagnosed.  i think it is wonderful that you want to help young people with fm.  i too hope to write a book about this experience.
well, i'm very tired now and i have to stop writing, but i hope you are doing okay, that you are having a good day.  my family has only lived here for 6 months, so i do not know a lot of people here, and i would like to hear from you sometime.  you could e-mail me if you like-the address is in my member profile.
think good thoughts,
alexis
 
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November 8, 2005, 10:08 am PST

Living with Chronic Pain

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Beleive me, I understand where you are coming from. But wonder where you are heading

  

Why are you asking God to forgive you ? Did you personally cause your chronic pain? 

Do you live in sin everyday of your life ? 

  

I would probally be right that, you personally are a good person , filled with love and not understanding alot of things in your life because of your pain.  

  

I have suffered with Chronic Pain for the past 20 some odd years. Doctors, I have had some of the best. Medication, Not to much out there that I haven't tried. Electric Stimulators to Block pain, I have one of the best made. 

  

You wrote a letter that touched me in away that I know exactly how you feel. I myself have had those same thoughts and ideas and wonders. As I sit here typing this letter to you I hurt so bad that I just wonder why ! 

  

So please don't be so hard on yourself. You live it you own it then by God you have the right to talk about it. Try not to think about what others are thinking about you. They tell you they understand about your pain and how it feels. You have to love them for at lease saying it , because you know in your heart that there is no way they could possibly handle the every days of your LIFE !!!! 

  

I get by with saying this to myself alot,  

  

I Don't Care How Bad I have It Someone Else has it worst and if you don't beleive that, go to one of the Milatary Hospitals and see for yourself and with the Grace of the Dear Lord we will both continue to get by each day. 

  

Take care of yourself and I am looking forward to you talking with me. You may not want to after reading my response to your letter. ..........TC - GB 

  

Will 

  

P.S   Look in the mirror every day and say , hey you, you earn the right and that I am a good person  

  

My fellings are the same,but God didn't create your accident,he has given you the tools to deal with your pain.I have suffered from chonic pain for the last 8 years.I know about the cycles,the deprsession and anxiety/panic attacks and side effects from all the medication I currently take.If you haven't done so,what has helped tremendously is pain managenmet therapy with a good phsyciatrist who can perscribe the medications that can help you.I also have a TENS unit that is very helpful,and use it in place of pain medication.There are other ways to deal with depresion in non medical ways,if you can,walk 30 minutes a day,use music theory,I play a musical instrument and my Drs think it's really cool.You may also consider getting a pet,they will lower your blood pressure,elevate your mood,and love you unconditionaly.I can't handle a dog in my conditon but I have two cats and they can be very entertaining at times.I have two specialists that help me but Federal Workmans Comp is a nightmare cutting off my phys therapy and now my medications.That adds to my stress levels.Also my Drs tell me I'm very good at hiding my pain,actually too good and have to play act a bit when I get a medical review from one of their hack medical examiners.But I am extremely frustrated at not being able to work and can barely take care of my house since I live alone.What used to take me an afternoon to do takes days or weeks,sometimes I work through the pain only to end up worse the next day or the pain and fatigue takes over.I don't bellyache to my freinds about my pain,that turns them off.Lastly don't blame God,I was told long ago that God helps those that help themselves.Keep your chin up and get that pain management counceling if you can possibly do so.
 
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November 8, 2005, 10:30 am PST

Living with Chronic Pain

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I read through your list and is does sound like a logical and effective plan of attack, so to speak. But, as I said in the first post, I think, there is a lot more to just what I wrote down here.  A lot of what I was referring to was doing things similar to the list you wrote.  I'm sure well thought out plans like that can do some good, but sometimes not. I compare it to sitting and making a list of my medical bills, prescriptions and regular bills. On paper, a decent plan can be formulated that actually might make things stretch, but again, things on paper sometimes doesn't match reality. I've gone the route of going through proper channels, making the right people aware of mistreatment and such. Frankly, here's what I got out of it: "It's not my problem nor fight", "Sorry to hear about all that", "I can't imagine the military or VA doing that", "I understand what you're going throughm but there's nothing I can do to help", etc... and that's the good stuff. When I was told by a Naval Dr (when I was in the Marines) in 1983 that I needed a surgery because the problem would only get worse without it, then told me I couldn't have the surgery. Following the chain of command all the way up to my Colonel and on the Colonels advice, I wrote my congressman. I got the surgery in 1985, I also got my promotion to Corporal held for a year to the date, and my next promotion to Sgt. held for 2 1/2 years, finding out later my record had been tagged "PI" (political influence). I wrote my Congressman about my Social Security hearing in August 2004, He initiated a "Congressional Inquiry" which teh judge read to me at the hearing, the "Inquiry" was merely, Please let me know the outcome of the hearing. Of course the judge gave me several dirty looks everytime he reminded me during the hearing about my asking for my congressmans help, stating he would be sure to let the congressman know the outcome. After I received the denial letter from the judge, that was filled with inaccuracies and mis-quotes used to deny me, I received a letter from the Congressmans office saying, I was glad to help and let me know if there is anything else I can do for you. But when I called, I was told all he could do is what he did...this "Inquiry" 

Basically, I see the military and VA as seemingly untouchable, not to mention they are in a "CYA" mode (covering their behinds). I have been fighting for my health since 1983 when I was just 20 years old and frankly, I can't handle anymore of the solutions and consequences that comes with it. I can't walk myself to the bathroom most of the time let alone walk in their offices. The picture I painted in my first post is very mild compaired to the rest of the story, I just didn't want to nor do I think I can even come close to explaining everything that has heppened with me physically, emotionally, medically, professionally........I know it's never too late to fight but again, that is on paper, not reality sometimes. Besides, I will probable be better off learning to accept what they have done to me and accept who and what I am today and accept whatever else comes along with it.  

I don't mean to devalue what you wrote, just that it hasn't worked for me and I physically and emotionally can't afford the results of fighting. 

I was just thinking, I'm sure glad my wife doesn't know I wrote all of this here. She would really get on to me for the way I feel on some of these things, but she isn't in my head or body feeling what I do and it wouldn't be fair to her to know how I feel on some things. She loves me but has had about as much stress in this as she can handle too... and doesn't need anymore to worry about, it would just tear her up and I couldn't bare to see that happen to her or my kids. 

  

The more I try to explain here the more I see it coming out the wrong way, almost sounds like I'm whining, but trust me, I'm not. This will probably come out the wrong way but I have fought for a lot of years and my body/health has paid the price for it, so has my family. My body and mind has nothing left to pay the piper with. I won't be saying anything more about this on the message board. I appreciate your comments and time.  

Wow,I thought my life was a nightmare with dealing with OWCP ( Federal Workman's Comp.).Leave it to the government to scew you in your time of need when they are supposed to be there to help you.I was a mail carrier for 15 years until I fell out of a delivery truck,on some black ice.I hit my head on the pavement,covered my face with my hands and whiplashed upon impact causing irepairable damage to my neck.It took me 6 years,a federal attorney and a nervous breakdown from all the harrasment I received from my employer.I was out of work for just over 21/2 years before my claim was settled,but they are still playing games with my claim interfering with my perscription refills and cutting off my phys therapy.Like you,I don't want to sound like I'm whining either but I'm very frustrated and have panic attacks due to the little games Uncle Sam plays on their employees that get hurt.It really makes me hate and distrust the goverment.
 

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November 8, 2005, 10:31 am PST

Don't Give Up

I read so many messages where people seem to have no hope. There is hope! There is so much that can be done to make our lives better! I have had chronic pain for 25 years (car accident) and fibromyalgia for 5 years. There ARE things that can help!!! Find the right diet. Find the right exercise. Find the right medicine (or combination of medicines). Find the right doctor. Don't accept just sitting at home and hurting. I have two kids (6 & 10), two (yes, two) jobs, a husband, a house, a dog, and a cat. I struggle sometimes, but I'm doing just fine. My family is supportive when I have a bad day, and they understand that I can't do everything--they pitch in. That's how it should be. Don't accept any less from your family. And don't accept a doctor that says there's nothing more to be done and that you must spend your days lying in bed in pain.
 
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November 8, 2005, 10:36 am PST

Hi 2 Meljor & Profderien

 sorry i haven't been on for a while, I've been having a few problems using my hands they keep swelling up & get 2 painful 2 use its weired but enough about me...
i just wanted 2 say hi 2 Mel & see how you've been keeping i hope all is well with you...

i also wanted 2 say hi 2 Profderien & see how you're feeling after the op? has your shoulder settled down any?  i sincerely hope it has...  take care of yourselves. Shell. x  . aka zippie.
 
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November 10, 2005, 8:47 pm PST

Chronic Lower Back Pain

I just don't know where to start. So here goes. I was inquired almost 5 years ago as I was loading a commercial dish washer in to a van. I slipped on packed snow and ice and unfortunately I tried grabbing the cart that the dish washer was on. The cart was on ramps and the dish washer fell on top of me across my chest. The dish washer weighed approximately 275 Lbs. I was in upper Wisconsin at the time. After that time my legs were very numb and I had problems walking. I could not keep my balance. My right leg would buckle violently and I would fall sometimes. Most of the time I could catch myself and I would not fall. When I finally made it home I had an appointment with my family doctor. He said that my injury was way out of his expertise. So he referred me to a Orthopedic. At first every thing was going fine. He tried the conservative approach first this went on for almost 5 months from the date of injury which was January 17 2001. I was doing PT at this time, 3X a week, and on so much pain meds it was not funny.  By the way this is a Workman's comp case.  So in May 2001 he submitted a request for lower lumbar surgery. So Workman's comp requested a IME. I went to their company yes man doctor. He said that there is a problem but what it is he did not know. But surgery was definitely not the answer. How ******* surprising surgery was denied. I was extremely depressed by this time. So I stopped getting TTD due to the IME report. Even though I was in extreme pain I had to go find a job to pay bills. So I started a new job in July. This lasted until December 23 when I fell in Walgreen's parking lot due to my leg buckling. I called my attorney at told him that I can not deal with not being able to walk. So finally my Orthopedic requested the surgery again and it was approved in February. I had the surgery and things seemed to get better but only for a little while. I started falling even more that I did before due to my right buckling. Even my balance and gate was effected by this point. I continued to complain to my orthopedic but he continued to say that there was nothing wrong. This went on until May. This was a very happy because I was just offered a Six figure job. But on memorial day I was throwing a bag of empty pop can into the garbage can outside. One of the cans came out of the bag and fell on the ground. I bent down to pick up the can and thats when the pain hit me. It so ungodly I thought I was going to die. I had a hard time breathing and could not walk. I had to crawl in to the house. I lost control of my legs right side being more effected. My wife called my Orthopedic and his response was I could wait until Saturday and see if any thing would change. But it got progressively worst to the point that I also lost control of my bowels and could not urinate and finally could not walk. I had to use a skate board to get around. So my wife contacted our family doctor and he told her to take me to the emergency room immediately. In the emergency room I was being transfered from a wheel chair to a gurney, and I informed the ER personnel that I could not stand. As I was being transfered I was almost dropped on the floor. Due to my wife fast thinking she was able to grab my arms and stop me from hitting the floor. After this I don't remember all the events any if any tests were done but I was discharge on Sunday by my orthopedic not being able to walk, he reported that I was able to walk with a walker with no problems. He also reported this to the workman's comp caseworker. On Monday I had another IME but with another doctor up north from where I live. I had MRI's with for the doctor to view. So my wife and I struggled to get me into the truck. Which took about an hour and we were about 45 minutes late for the appointment. We were met at the door by the case worker, this is when she realized that she was given some real  bad information. It took me 30 minutes to get up to the second floor and into the doctor's office. As I was being examined by the doctor(orthopedic) he asked if he could have the case worker in the room with us. He informed us to get back home and that I needed immediate surgery if I were to any hope to walk again. So again I was admitted to hospital. My Orthopedic said that I did not need surgery, I was faking, I did not want to walk. He in his infinite wisdom called in a pysic consult. By this time wife was begging our family doctor to get a myloegram done. My orthopedic was very aloof about the whole situation. He was still stating that the test were unconlusive and surgery was not the answer. My family doctor called in a nureosurgeon in and he stated that I NEED IMMEADIATE SURGERY. But since he has not done this surgery for along time I was referred to another doctor. This doctor did a T9-T10 discectomy. I had a long long road to recovery. But I still was experiencing pain in the lower back and right leg. So now three years latter my new orthopedic said that I need a spinal fusion at L-4 L-5 and L-5 and S1. The surgeon informed my wife after the 6 hour surgery that the first surgery done at L5 S1 was done way to conservatively. Much more of the disc should have been removed, and I could have avoided the fusion. I still have a lot of pain. My feet constantly hurt. I still have problems walking and balance is poor. I can't even wash dishes with out pain in my lower back and legs. I am still not working and feel like a complete failure. As a father and husband. I have not been there for my family and we are loosing our house. We need 14 grand to bring the mortgage current. We need the money by the end of November. God I hate the holidays it so damn depressing not to be full of joy. If I had a good life insurance policy I would end it now, at least I would know my family would have a house to stay in. The pain most of the time make it so hard to concentrate.  I have been real bastard these last five years, I try so hard not to be but I just can't help it. I am surprised that my wife has not left me. I am grateful that she has not. I have prayed to God every day, but I have not received any answers. I have been in this storm for so long I am so tired. I am physically and emotionally bankrupt. I have nothing left to offer. I WISH I WERE DEAD.
 

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