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Created on : Thursday, July 07, 2005, 09:06:20 am
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January 4, 2006, 8:49 pm PST

Please give me a miracle

All I want is a miracle. I pray to God every night, to help my mother live!
 
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January 4, 2006, 9:01 pm PST

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I, too, am in my 50's and was diagnosed with fibromyalgia in 1999.  At that time I could barely walk and was in pain constantly.  All I wanted to do was sit in the recliner and not have to move.  I also had a chronic lower back problem due to a very bad accident on an interstate in 1992.  I was floored when I received the diagnosis.  I have been on every medication imaginable- narcotics, sleeping medications, anti-depressants, muscle relaxants, and even a medication used for MS- all at the same time.  But the pain just comes back every few hours, so I'd pop another pill.  I went to a a pain specialist and tried acupuncture which did help, but not enough.  I started seeing an osteopath who is my hero as he can keep my lower back pain under control with a monthly adjustment.  A year ago my psychiatrist put me on Cymbalta which seemed to help.  Last summer, I decided I was taking way too many medications, so started going off them one by one.  Now, for the fibromyalgia, all I take is Cymbalta and I recently had the dosage increased.  But what has helped the most has been working out with a good trainer who spends the last 15 minutes of the hour doing active stretching with me.  That has made a huge dent in the pain.  I also walk outside or on a treadmill several days a week.  The exercise alone boosts my mood.  I have massages on my upper back as it is the area of my body that causes me the most problem.  I would have to say that I am at least 80 to90 percent better than I was when I was diagnosed.  I have become convinced that emotions play a central role in fibromyalgia and have gone to counseling in order to try to work through some issues.  I have also learned to say no- a word I never used before. My family was initially a bit shocked when I started using that word, but they now know I mean it and why.  If I'm having a particularly bad day- and I do have some on rare occasions- I just let everyone know that I'm not up to par and to not expect me to do much but take care of myself.  Weather seems to affect my pain as well.  I can tell when a front is coming through.  I started sleeping on a heated mattress pad and a swedish foam bed topper- that really helped in the beginning.  I even travel with the bed topper as sleeping in a different bed is a nightmare for me. Since my upper back is my problem area, I keep it well covered in winter months.  You say you are very sensitive.  So am I.  I spent years doing what ever it took at home to keep the peace.  That was a mistake.  I have learned to stand up for myself and not try to solve every one else's problems. If I can't do it, I just say no.  It's taken me several years to get to this point and I'm still working on it.  Most of the literature I've read seems to indicate that fibromyalgia patients don't get better.  I disagree.  I really believe you can at least manage the pain- and possibly not through traditional medicine; and I'm a nurse.

i just wanted you to know that you're my hero of the day!   i'm staying in the world of traditional medicine, with a pinch of complementary tossed in. 

  

i resisted the offer of a pain counselor for years, always trying to be one-step ahead of the doctors  

-- who obviously were out to label me as insane.  or worse:  as an insane woman.  once i knew that my physiatrist was going to check and see if i had made an appointment, i made the appointment and went.  it was a combination of unfurled fury, giggles, and meditation/biofeedback.  it was very helpful.  it was also out-of-pocket, so my visits are determined by that self-same pocket!  she walked me through some realizations that, in turn, helped me to have a home environment that was peaceful.  if anyone is afraid of being labeled, as i was, get over it.   

you are so correct about exercise.  can anyone explain to me why it is so much better when exercise is intentional?  why don't i get the same energy boost after mopping the kitchen that i get after 20 minutes on a dual-action bike? [ where have all the endorphins gone...] 

  

re: cymbalta -- i started it about a year ago on the advice of my internist.  he said it has been shown to work with chronic pain of the neuropathic variety -- it helped with diabetic neuropathy pain in the extremities.  it definitely lifted my mood after about a month, that alone led me to move more, try more... who knows what was trying to break the pain cycle.  i am grateful.  i also take amitriptyline at bedtime, since it also helps with pain.   

  

i am not dealing with fibromyalgia [actually one doctor says i have it and i just ignore him!] -- but with avascular necrosis and rsd/crps.  the decision has been made that no more surgeries for bone/joint replacement will be made -- why?  because anything orthopedic triggers my rsd/crps.  it took us a few years to figure it out.  the clincher was about 6 weeks ago -- i simply broke my little left toe.  big deal. the next day the rsd/crps had spread with vengeance to my left leg and has proceeded now almost up to the knee.  apparently, that started a flare and caused the upper extremity to mirror from left to right -- the 4th & 5th on the left gave way to the same on the right. so i have it in every extremity.  it's a real pisser. 

  

thanks for your great attitude and insight.  i think i was in need of a dose of that stuff. 

prof-de-rien 

  

  

 
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January 4, 2006, 9:21 pm PST

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Hi, 3 years ago I had everything anybody could want, work, car and money.  3 years ago I had collasped while getting up to go to work.  The past 3 years has been a battery of tests and Doctors.  My life did a complete 360 on me.  I went through alot of emotions, I had no idea what was happening in my life that could bring me to a halt as this did. Ofcourse going through the motions of day to day life I came to the point that there was nothing left of me that is any good.  My friends seemed to disapear from my life bit by bit.  During that time I was very cold, I was tired, no one could tell me what had happened.  So I am sure your guessing this next part...Yes I had tried to commit suicide not once, not twice but 3 times which put in the hospital under suicide watch. From the hospital I went into a group home I was there for 2 years. I had no one left in my life except my mom and my sister, the only problem was my sister has her own life with her husband and grown up children and grand children, and my mom well she is in her 70's.  So there wasn't much that they could do.  I had a hard time bathing myself, and because I didn't go anywhere it didn't matter to me that i was always in my jogging pants or jogging shorts.  I used to be very athletic and very tiny  as in (size 2) and now i keep gaining weight and losing weight because I can no longer walk,  I can not get my self comfortable. and to beat all things I just moved to my handicapped apartment.   I was just diagnosed with  MS in early October, 2005.  About 3 weeks ago I found myself trying to get out of bed but it felt like someone had tied 10 ton weights all over my body.  Thank god that I have a loaner wheelchair from the same place as I am getting mine.  I had to litterly fall out of bed (because I had my crutches but  I could not use) and drag my self in to the living room of my new apartment.  I have now been in my wheelchair for 3 weeks.  This is the hardest thing I have ever done in my life.   

my heart goes out to you.  your diagnosis was just a few months ago.  i've heard that it is difficult to diagnose -- what made them finally look in the right direction? 

  

when you get settled, what do you think about giving those former friends a ring -- invite them for coffee, or something.  beware, though:  yesterday, i made a huge mess of coffess and as i was pouring it, my fingers went on vacation.  i hate it when that happens! 

  

can you get involved in physical or occupational therapy? 

  

anyway -- you should be so very proud of yourself for having so much courage to be  here, facing your illness,  i want very much to hear how you are doing. so please post often 

  

be well, 

prof-de-rien 

 
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January 4, 2006, 9:24 pm PST

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All I want is a miracle. I pray to God every night, to help my mother live!
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January 5, 2006, 3:36 am PST

Happy New Year Everyone

Just wanted to wish a better year to all! 

  

  

 
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January 5, 2006, 3:47 am PST

Living with Chronic Pain

I was just diagnosed with MS in early October 2005

Firstly,  Pandas,  I am very sorry for your hardship.  Secondly,   I think it would be a great benefit to you,  if you're not already doing these things,  to try: eliminating all artificial sweeteners and monosodium glutamate.  This is imparative. 
 
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January 5, 2006, 7:03 am PST

What is fibromyalgia,and what are the symptoms?? Can someone please tell me?

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Having lived with fibro for almost 7 years I have reseached it extensively.  The most helpful information I found was in Fibromyalgia Network, if I remember it correctly.  You can subscribe to it- I think it comes monthly.  I stopped my subscription several years ago.  You can also buy back issues with specific topics.  You can find the site online.  I found it very useful in the beginning.  Sleep studies have found that almost all FMS sufferers have what is called a Stage 4 sleep disorder.  Apparently Stage 4 of the sleep cycle is the restorative stage of sleep which means our bodies rarely get repaired.  As I said in my reply below, I was on massive medications for a long time.  I decided to stop them one at a time last summer.  I only take Cymbalta now.  I don't feel any worse being off all the drugs.  Exercise, massage and a wonderful osteopath have been my salvation.  I am much, much better now than 7 years ago and I was told it likely would not get better.  I also highly recommend therapy or a support group.  Good luck to you.

Hello Everyone,, its been awhile since I've posted,, I would like to know something about this condition, I have alot of joint and muscle pain , I have OA and have had 3 knee replacement surgeries and bone fusion surgery. Sometimes the muscle pain in my hips and legs is unbearable and now there is numbness in my left leg and a really bad ache as well, any information you could give me would be appreciated,, Thanks  Martha 

 
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January 5, 2006, 7:17 am PST

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Thank you xplay25 for your input.  The information you provided, it is already being done.  I also have menieres which will soon become total deafness. With this problem I can not have salt, artificial sweetner and alot of other things. 

  

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January 5, 2006, 7:32 am PST

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Hi Prof, there is no cure for it except for a really drastic one.  There is no thearapy that can help this pain.  I actually did reach out to 2 of my friends, but they have no idea how to react to me in a wheelchair.  That hurt.  Basically my family is all I have, and my family has their own life.  The reason they looked in the right direction is because I have been begging for a MRI I knew there was something wrong.  I also have fibromialga and that is from a fall I had when I was 14 (fell 9.5 feet in gymnastics)  I knew from an early age that I will get fibromialga.   Over the years I was always on crutches for about a week or two.  For me that was normal.  So when this happened I knew it was different.  I also knew that it was going to be perm.  That was the feeling that I had and no one believed me of how I felt,except for my family doctor.  She has been the best to me.  I would call her because I needed a shoulder to cry on.  It didn't matter what I needed she was there and she still is.  When I told her that something is really wrong, she believed.  My doctor did all the phoning for specialists, wanting updates etc. That is mainly the only reason that I am telling my story so that other people in the same or different problem can come together.  Sometimes all we need is to know someoone is listening 

  

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January 5, 2006, 12:54 pm PST

pandas

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Hi Prof, there is no cure for it except for a really drastic one.  There is no thearapy that can help this pain.  I actually did reach out to 2 of my friends, but they have no idea how to react to me in a wheelchair.  That hurt.  Basically my family is all I have, and my family has their own life.  The reason they looked in the right direction is because I have been begging for a MRI I knew there was something wrong.  I also have fibromialga and that is from a fall I had when I was 14 (fell 9.5 feet in gymnastics)  I knew from an early age that I will get fibromialga.   Over the years I was always on crutches for about a week or two.  For me that was normal.  So when this happened I knew it was different.  I also knew that it was going to be perm.  That was the feeling that I had and no one believed me of how I felt,except for my family doctor.  She has been the best to me.  I would call her because I needed a shoulder to cry on.  It didn't matter what I needed she was there and she still is.  When I told her that something is really wrong, she believed.  My doctor did all the phoning for specialists, wanting updates etc. That is mainly the only reason that I am telling my story so that other people in the same or different problem can come together.  Sometimes all we need is to know someoone is listening 

  

pandas 

dear pantas,   

  

i'm not sure what the drastic cure is -- is it that deep brain procedure?  there is a large university where i live that has been a pioneer in that area with good results.  don't give up hope.  i am thinking about being a lab rat for a new drug therapy in rsd/crps [thalidomide, believe it or not]. 

the thing is, though, with these procedures and studies, they kinda suspend the "do no harm" directive! 

  

that they wouldn't do an mri angers me.  there are so many things that don't show well on plain film, or on bone scans, or on ct scans.  grrrr.  i have avascular necrosis in every major joint plus the spine, and some smaller joints.  it's best treated early but is only seen early with an mri!  to get one, you have to get rather pissy.  which i can get... 

  

don't give up on your friends!  did they actually say they were uncomfortable -- i know that is a lunatic question but what the heck!  i forced my friends -- admittedly just the very best ones -- to deal with me by calling them and asking for help.  this was a 2-edged sword.  i actually needed the  

help and was loathe to ask for help.  all those cabinets that i couldn't reach, all those nasty collisions with my refrigerator, the adventures of hygiene, never mind housework!  everyone said something like "if you ever need any help dot dot dot."  so i called!   

  

[there is a wonderful question that i am starting to use in my dialogues with myself:  what is the worst that could happen?  that weeds out a bunch of... stuff.]  

  

i bet your friends really are just waiting for a sign of what to do.  you are still the same person -- you are probably stronger than ever for all that you've been through.  one of the easiest ways for me to get back to friendship was/is to ask for rides to doctor's appointments.  i had a chair that broke down enough that it could fit in the trunk of a car.  they had to learn how to do that -- and they can't be thinking about how to act when they are packing heavy old batteries!  then i would take them out to coffee or lunch.  i am shutting myself off again these days because of my fear of being unintentionally harmed [a long story!]. 

  

your family doctor, what a great doctor!  she has probably been waiting for the diagnosis to happen, just not knowing what it would be.  having someone like that to keep the circus of specialists in line, and to LISTEN to you -- she must be great.  keep her informed about what's up with you because she obviously cares. 

  

the problem with your family -- you are a significant part of their life, no?  why aren't they extending themselves?  a big "pooh" on them! 

  

sorry for going on so long -- we've got some sort of little virus going on here and i always get hyper.  can't read, can't relax.   

  

please take good care of yourself!  from all that i have read about fibromyalgia and ms, getting rest and dodging stress, loving yourself first -- what is the worst that could happen?! 

  

prof-de-rien 

 
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