Topic : Living with Chronic Pain

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March 2, 2006, 8:45 pm PST

Osteoarthritis

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I am 54 years old and I suffer from osteoarthritis. My hands throb and I have very little strength in my thumbs. I cannot garden anymore. Turning doorknobs, taking off bottle and jar caps and getting into medicines packed in blister packs is very painful. I cannot do my beloved stained glass artistry anymore. When my hands throb it helps to sit on them!  As funny as it sounds....the pressure does help to stop the throbbing. Doing the dishes in very warm/hot water helps too. It seems that I have tried most pain relievers, but I rely on good old fashioned aspirin for the most part. I also have pain in my neck and shoulders. I would love to smoke a little pot in the evening if the pain is keeping me awake at night. I just can't believe that in this day and age we have to suffer because of Victorian attitudes about the pain relief benefits of marijuana. I'm sure that I'll get a lot of you bashing me.....but this is how I feel.  If our legislators woke up in the middle of the night with pain, I think that the laws would change. Thank you for listening.

NO BASHING.  No WAY.  You do whatever you need to relieve excruciating physical pain.  It is horrible to be expected to try to "suck up or gut it out".   

  

Pain interferes with sleep and the ability to function on even a half-way normal basis during the day.   

  

If medicinal doses of marijuana help you, I wish someone with even half a brain in the Victorian government would recognize this fact and help people who are suffering extreme physical pain and would get a freakin' clue and realize that this is a real problem and needs a real solution.  I SO hope you feel better soon.  I hope the laws change.  BTW, I am 52 with psoriasis.  I feel like I've been tied to the bumper of a car and dragged around a parking lot.   

  

I hope you feel better.  I SO hope you get over this.  If you want to chat, please contact me at bckly@ptrc@yahoo.com 

 
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March 2, 2006, 9:06 pm PST

Know your feelings . . .

 I also have chronic pain from a broken back, suffered 20 years ago when I was just 22.  I was driving a semi-tractor trailer and hit a horse that was running in the roadway, and at the time I felt more sorry for the horse than for myself, but now I realize he was the lucky one . . . his pain began and ended that day  --  mine will go on forever.

I use a lot of different  methods to help deal with it, but like I recently explained to a hospital nurse who told me I shouldn't still be in pain from 20 year old injuries that the injuries may heal as much as they are going to but the pain NEVER goes away.  I do QiGong at least three times a week, and Tai Chi several times, meditate every day, and work on the fit ball to loosen things up, but the biggest problem is the doctors here will not give any pain medication at all.  I haven't been able to get it from any doctor or surgeon in almost 15 years, so there are days when life really bites.

If any one has any other suggestions, or knows any doctors I could speak to about this in the Denver area, please write me back!!!!

Looking forward to hearing from you . . .maybe if someone is here in the Denver area we can support each other and work together face to face . . .

I make massage oils and other aroma therapy products,  anyone needing  these let me know . . . custom blends made just for you!!!  Maybe we can exchange recipes and ideas for treatments.

Love to all, and hang in there babies!!!
 
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March 2, 2006, 9:22 pm PST

osteoarthritis early in life

 I was diagnosed with OA at 30 yrs old. now in my 50's I have endured 11 operations and take a slow release morphine along with celebrex every day. I have gone trough a transition this winter to an electric wheelchair. I can't use the manual variety as there is little cartilage left of my shoulders as well.. it has invaded my body now, in every joint, with the weight bearing joints fairing the worse.
 I also took on an emancipated teen 4 yrs ago when my best friend died and the mother wanted nothing to do with him. he has been good but a typical teenager. he doesn't understand that if he doesn't do the work, it won't be done. as he matures he has been improving and undoubetdly my decline has affected that as well.
I wish marijuana was legal for us. we have a medical program in canada but in the conservative provinces of the west, none of the doctors will sign the forms. My doctor agrees it will help me, especially if eaten, then he says he won't have anything to do with the program until the "college of physicians" tells him to. the college are the ones holding the liability coverage on the gp's. Now get this, the college has provided a waiver for the doctors to sign last year, and still none will. I think this calls for a judicial review of an organization circumventing a legislated process.
why fight it, because it brings a lot of relief, has never killed anyone unlike aspirin, and who cares if I  were to get addicted which I understand is also not likely, as I only have a few years of chronic pain left. when are we going to start treating humans better than our pets?
 
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March 2, 2006, 9:25 pm PST

Not a bash it sight, my friend

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NO BASHING.  No WAY.  You do whatever you need to relieve excruciating physical pain.  It is horrible to be expected to try to "suck up or gut it out".   

  

Pain interferes with sleep and the ability to function on even a half-way normal basis during the day.   

  

If medicinal doses of marijuana help you, I wish someone with even half a brain in the Victorian government would recognize this fact and help people who are suffering extreme physical pain and would get a freakin' clue and realize that this is a real problem and needs a real solution.  I SO hope you feel better soon.  I hope the laws change.  BTW, I am 52 with psoriasis.  I feel like I've been tied to the bumper of a car and dragged around a parking lot.   

  

I hope you feel better.  I SO hope you get over this.  If you want to chat, please contact me at bckly@ptrc@yahoo.com 

 I know what you mean, and to be considered a criminal for wanting to get the pain under some sort of control is too much.  You do what you need to do, and don't let anyone stop you, especially those with the Victorian mindset described.  My parents still argue with me over my use of the stuff, but they have standing orders for their pain meds . . .they don't need marijuana! 

I also really hope that the state laws here change, but even if they do, there is till the problem of finding it when regular supplies are dry, and you never know who you can really trust.  Let's face it, those of us in need of the stuff for pain relief, the last place we need to be is in a cold, damp jail cell with God-only-knows-who who just got busted for assault or murder or some other such violence, for trying to get what we need.


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March 2, 2006, 9:32 pm PST

My Take on Your Story

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I'm new to the boards, too.  I've had migraine  headaches since I was 8.  I'm 47 now.  About 6 years ago they started getting progressively more frequent, and 4 years ago they became daily.  I'm now in pain 24 hours a day. I have headaches in my dreams.  I've done every medication and procedure my pain doctor came up with, from Methodone to Botox to nerve stimulators.  I spent 10 days on a headache ward in a hospital in Chicago.  Nothing really helped.  Because I used to work at a university that doesn't participate in Social Security, when I applied for a disability retirement, the process was much easier and quicker than Social Security.  (I've heard such horror stories about them!) I've been able to get a disability retirement from my employer,  stop working and still get affordable medical coverage.  It's interesting that only when I stopped working did I recognize how truly difficult things had become. 

  

There is one thing that sometimes helps me.  If you live with chronic pain and your doctor hasn't suggested biofeedback yet, you might want to check into it.  It's not a substite for other avenues of pain relief, but I find that sometimes it does help.  It at least helps me feel like I can have some control over what is going on in my body.  For those of you out there who are religious, studies have found that prayer and biofeedback create similar relaxation states.  And anyone in chronic pain knows how difficult it can be to relax your body.  Even if it doesn't relieve your pain, it can at least temporarly refocus your mind so that you have a small break from feeling it.  The theory is that it is just like sucking on your finger when you bang it with a hammer - you're distracting yourself from one kind of nerve input by creating another kind of nerve input. 

  

One thing I have a hard time dealing with (that I'd like to hear some feedback on) is the helpful people who want to tell you about the miracle cure that worked for their husband's cousin's stepfather.  After 4 years, I really HAVE tried everything that I believe is medically reliable.  If I haven't tried it, it's probably because I think it's an unproven and unlikely solution.  Total strangers who know my parents and have heard them talk about my problem have come up to me to tell me that if I only tried their solution I'd be cured.  I've done a lot of research. Back problems and headache are the most resistant to treatment because so many things can be involved in the process.  Research in the last 10 years alone has shown that the medical profession knows less than they thought they did about how nerves really work. If I believed your special treatment would work, I'd have already done it.  I really don't need medical advice from total strangers.  And yet, I seem to get it all the time.  I live in a smallish town, and both sides of my family (my parents and my inlaws) know a lot of people.  So, these aren't people I've chosen to confide in - they are just caring people who don't know when to keep their mouths closed.  Though it never occurs to them, it's pretty insulting to me and my intelligence.  I really have done everything I can do, and there is no apparent solution.   I have a hard enough time living with it - I don't need them essentially telling me I haven't tried hard enough.  I don't want to be unkind, but I wish they would butt out.   

  

I struggle with accepting that I may be this way for the rest of my life.  Right now, that is how it looks.  On bad days I really struggle with seeing the rest of my life in a haze of pain.  On good days I'm thankful for a truly supportive family.  I have a good husband and a loving son.  

  

For those who are looking, here's a tip for dealing with those around you who may not understand how debilitating pain is.  It really makes it hard to think.  I forget things all the time.  I drop things all the time.  I get frustrated that I don't feel like I'm the one in control of my own body.  I came up with a description that may help you out there to explain to people without chronic pain how your world has shrunk and how difficult it is to get anything done.   I find it particularly appropriate for headaches.  Imagine you are on an airplane.  The plane is full. You are in coach and the plane is hot and cramped.  And YOU are the one with the seat in front of the screaming baby.  Sometimes, it's so loud you can't hear anything else. Now imagine that the baby never stops and the plane never lands.   It may help others imagine how disruptive and frustrating constant pain is - feel free to use it.  

Well, there is a myriad of advice out there, isn't there?   I totally agree with your last statement about the affect of pain on the ability to function throughout the day.  Believe me, I know, with the psoriasis,  I can't think straight half the time myself.   

  

I guess the best bit of advice I can offer is that you have to breathe, eat, drink a lot of water,  and MOVE. Physical activity is one of the best de-stressers.  For me, walking and hiking is the best.  The endorphins will kick-in and you will definitely feel much better.  Don't be sedentary.  Take short walks.  Contact me at ptrcbckly@yahoo.com if you feel like talking.  Take care of yourself  I and hope you feel better.   

 
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March 2, 2006, 9:57 pm PST

Living with Chronic Pain

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I have been living the summer from hell.  I have fibromyalgia and I have lived from one flare to the next since early spring.  My dr. is sympathetic and my husband also understands.  I take every supplement that I read about that is suppose to help. 

I had been working out at the gym five days a week with a mix of using the treadmill, the machines and free weights coupled with aquabics.  I remember one week feeling really up and begining to "feel" my body as a good thing.  the next Monday my knee gave out while on the treadmill.  I found it difficult to use the machines and I kept dropping the free weights.  My dr. told me to lay off the gym until I felt better but my aquabics were ok.  The next week during an aquabics class I found myself fighting to breath and the chest pain was something else.  Back to the dr.  No more aquabics and more medications.

I started on the regeime I use when my fibro kicks in and eight weeks later I am still in pain, still running out of air and my whole leg hurts instead of my knee.  As I said my Fr. is sympathetic but I  feel really wierd going to the office almost every week, especially when I know that there is realatively little can be done for fibro.

I use meditation, playing my keyboard, painting, gardening, and prayer.  I know there are people my age doing wonderful things but not me.  I am depressed.  I am fat.  I am out of shape.  I am out of hope.

Is there anyone else out there like me.  What do you do?  Please don't tell me to look on the bright side or any other  moronically cherrie euphamisms.

By the way this is one of my good days.

 I understand so much how you feel.  if have fibromyalgia with infasis on chronic fatigue.  You did not mention how old you are.  I am 42 trying to raise 3 children with a husband who is out of town all the time.  I am presently dealing with a flare up.  everyday I feel like I can't go anymore and though I keep going my accomplishments and productivity is less each day.  I wish I could find help during times like this.  I do not have family in the area and i only have two family members who even acknowledge that its real and of course they are  very far away.   

  

But I put my emote at hopeful because I am reading a book Written by  Dr. Amand titled "What your doctor may not tell you about fibromyalgia.  He says its reversable but he highly recommends having your doctor help you through the treatment.  I've tried everything else I might as well try this.  I will be meeting with my doctor and telling her about it hoping she will think its possible and hoping she will help me.  The book says that you will feel worse before better but going on like this I figure what do I have to lose. 

  

I won't tell you to look on the bright side or any or moronically cherrie euphamisms because I know from experience some times you just don't even see or know a bright side to look on.  but I hope that knowing someone is in the same place and understands will help you.  I met a lady from church who has it.  fortunetly we can share how others don't believe nor do they help us.  We think the lord gave us each other just so we can have some one who understands. 

  

this book says that depression and overweight is part of it.   

  

I understand what you mean about people your age doing wonderful things.  i too had so many goals and dreams for my life as a woman and then later as a mother but I can't make any of them happen.  I always wanted to play piano and I even have one but it hurts just to type this how can I play piano.  I wanted to run and play with my children, go bicycling and camping as a family.  basically live love and laugh but it just doesn't seem to happen.   

  

I will be praying that god will give you strength and courage. 

  

sincerely, 

  

Me 

 
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March 3, 2006, 1:45 am PST

Fibromyalia ,Myofacial,Chronic AHHHHHH!!!!!!!

Get the MESSAGE!!!!!  I was lucky to get CANCER in July(9)1997 and BEAT it !!!! Only for it to FLARE UP, what I didn't know I had. FMS & CMS with Chronic Pain added in too! I was supposed to be getting BETTER(after the Chemotherapy and Radiation) and I was feeling worse,more tired,more PAIN(all over-total body pain) and I started to miss work, when I had worked the whole time while I went through the Chemotherapy and Radiation.My Doctors could not "understand " " it will go away",was all I could get out of them. Then the Reconstructive surgery process started! Oh MY GOD! I thought I was going to DIE! The pain went over the ROOF! But still no one could help me.You should be getting better was all I was getting.The Reconstructive surgery was a failure.Only for numerous more to follow to "correct" the mistakes and tissue bands that started to form.The pain would get worse with each surgery! Finally my Family Doctor  tested me for Fibromylia without my knowledge,all I knew he was touching parts of my body that felt like "FIRE" when he touched them.I had all 18 points at that time.My body was so "on alert" I did not have a chance.Of course he had to run other test to rule out "other things to be on the safe side" I had already by that time QUIT the process of Reconstruction,to this day the process is not done.I can no longer work,and my body is slowly healing.If my Doctors had been more perceptive ,I would never of gotten to this point of disability.I lost a lot ,I never have a pain free day.I don't know what that is.I am learning to except my new life and try to go on.It is not easy , but I have 4 beautiful Grandchildren that I cherish.I am very thankful to the Lord that I was one that beat Cancer.....for my Sister had Died just a year before I got it.Looking back we now know that FMS & CMS run in our family.But that was only found out by my history.I am a survivor and this will not take me down either! The pain is not easy to live with ,but with the help of a good Doctor and some PT all will be OK.I always have the Lord to lean on when things get to where I can't handle it.HE can help me make it.9 years and counting.I had to actually count that up=for I don't count them anymore! I don't want pain to control my life! It's to little and to precious!
 
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March 3, 2006, 2:19 am PST

Living with constant Pain!

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My husband of 22 years became disabled with an odd spinal disease called arachnoiditis (no, it has nothing to do with fear of spiders) It is a disorder or disease where the dura, a spinal covering over the bodys nerves becomes sticky and looks like shattered glass instead of the a smooth elastic nerve that conducts messages to body parts. It started with Meningitis when we were stationed in Guantano Bay, Cuba as a family (before it was a terrorist camp). It gets worse with time. My husband has had to endure no less than 12 surgeries and is on methadone and oxycontin and has an implanted spinal stimulator for pain. 

  

As of now he is 100% disabled as far as jobs go. I feel I must make a distinction between a legal finding of 100% disabled and being 100% useless. A mans job has alot to do with who he is psychologically and it was a very long time before he could come to grips with the distinction and it still needs enforcing often. It took forever before he realized I hadn't married him for his body and his mind. He is 43 now and his best years are behind him. He has a wheelchair but is resistant to use it for psychological reasons. He is in constant pain and will always be in increasing pain until the day he dies. It is hard to comprehend because I am not in pain and to remember he is in pain 24/7. Sleep, awake etc. It is hard for him to enjoy any moment fully because he is in constant pain. I imagine it is like trying to grocery shop while in hard labor.  

  

He has over the years come to a different way of life. We have 2 boys and with his handicapped van he went to every single football practice, game, scrimmage, science fair, drama event, and every thing the boys were active in. I am so thankful for that. I was placed in the roll of bread winner for several years. I figure I am lucky. My husband gets to be at all the boys activities and other dads aren't and I figured that if he had died or we had divorced I would have been a single parent and had to work anyway.  We all are very lucky that we can adjust to make this work. I feel deeply, deeply sorry for his pain but we are lucky to still have him. We are SOOOOO thankful for that. The boys are both in college and when they call home they want dad first. 

  

He has endured more than is required of one human being and it still goes on. We can't ease his pain so we make his life the best we can. It is still excruciating. You have to play the cards you're dealt and we have tried to do the best we can. There isn't any more to do than that. I imagine that there will come a time when the pain remedies will fail and he will be left with the choice of severing his spinal cord from the neck down to stop the pain. We will deal with that too if we have to. Right now we are concerned with doing the best we can with what we have because it could always be worse in some way.   

  

We love him and he is still the same person I fell in love with in high school. It's like we planned for a trip to Italy. We bought clothes for Italy, studied the customs and bought a house there and then we missed our stop and ended up getting off the plane in Iceland.  We had no house, proper clothing or a visa and we wanted to go to Italy but Iceland will work. Iceland is where the plane landed. Iceland is still a great place to go instead of the plane crashing. 

BRAVO! bravo BRAVO!Your husband is indeed lucky to have you!As you are him! You seem to complement each other,as a marriage should.This is what life is really about.I suffer from pain 24/7 an if my family feel as you do I truly would be a contented woman!I know they say it's not what I can or can't do anymore ,but as long as I am still here to give and receive love is all that matters to them!They want me here with them.You said it so wonderful.Truly you must be a very special Spirit that the Lord sent to him. Thank you for your message.It lifted my sleepless night.
 
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March 3, 2006, 5:33 am PST

I am so sorry about your job!

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Dearest Curlyone45, 

My heart just hurts for you and all your pain and suffering you have had to deal with.  Don't you find it amazing that there are humans out there that no matter how bad they are hurting, they still have room to care. I am a person that when I ask "how are you" I want to stay and listen if it's good or bad. I have been home with my daughter off and on because of the RSD, and just found out two days ago that I have no job to go back to. I was freaking out for those two days, wondering how I am going to pay these medical bills, how are we going to put food on the table, ect. you know the drill.  Then I thought, where is that getting me other than gray hair? So I am searching and searching for something I can do at home earn a little cash and be here when Ashley or Andy needs me.  

Stay Strong, find a smile in even the little things and if that is even hard to do on a HIGH pain day, I will share mine all the way from Calie... 

I am so sorry about your job!  When it rains, it pours, I know.  I too am looking for some type of home-base work. Tried selling, tried typing, neither worked out.  I hope you will find something you can do.  If I ever come up with anything - I will let you know.  Bless you... 

Sharing in your pain, 

Curlyone45 

 
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March 3, 2006, 5:37 am PST

You are so strong!!

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Get the MESSAGE!!!!!  I was lucky to get CANCER in July(9)1997 and BEAT it !!!! Only for it to FLARE UP, what I didn't know I had. FMS & CMS with Chronic Pain added in too! I was supposed to be getting BETTER(after the Chemotherapy and Radiation) and I was feeling worse,more tired,more PAIN(all over-total body pain) and I started to miss work, when I had worked the whole time while I went through the Chemotherapy and Radiation.My Doctors could not "understand " " it will go away",was all I could get out of them. Then the Reconstructive surgery process started! Oh MY GOD! I thought I was going to DIE! The pain went over the ROOF! But still no one could help me.You should be getting better was all I was getting.The Reconstructive surgery was a failure.Only for numerous more to follow to "correct" the mistakes and tissue bands that started to form.The pain would get worse with each surgery! Finally my Family Doctor  tested me for Fibromylia without my knowledge,all I knew he was touching parts of my body that felt like "FIRE" when he touched them.I had all 18 points at that time.My body was so "on alert" I did not have a chance.Of course he had to run other test to rule out "other things to be on the safe side" I had already by that time QUIT the process of Reconstruction,to this day the process is not done.I can no longer work,and my body is slowly healing.If my Doctors had been more perceptive ,I would never of gotten to this point of disability.I lost a lot ,I never have a pain free day.I don't know what that is.I am learning to except my new life and try to go on.It is not easy , but I have 4 beautiful Grandchildren that I cherish.I am very thankful to the Lord that I was one that beat Cancer.....for my Sister had Died just a year before I got it.Looking back we now know that FMS & CMS run in our family.But that was only found out by my history.I am a survivor and this will not take me down either! The pain is not easy to live with ,but with the help of a good Doctor and some PT all will be OK.I always have the Lord to lean on when things get to where I can't handle it.HE can help me make it.9 years and counting.I had to actually count that up=for I don't count them anymore! I don't want pain to control my life! It's to little and to precious!

Wow, you have been through so much!! You have the spirit and strength I wish I could have and you are a real trooper!!  You are an inspiration to all!  Thanks for your post! 

Your friend in pain, 

Curlyone45 

 

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