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March 10, 2006, 4:59 am PST

A PLACE OF HOPE

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I JUST WANTED TO POP IN AND SAY TO EVERYONE, THAT I FOUND ALOT OF COMFORT, SUPPORT, EDUCATION AND UNDERSTANDING HERE ON THESE MESSAGE B. AND RELATING TO SO MANY HEALTHE PROBLEMS.  BUT AT THE SAME TIME, IN A PERFECT WORLD, I WISH FOR ALL TO NOT HAVE TO LIVE LIKE THIS, BUT JUST HAVING ALL THIS SUPPORT HAS BEEN OVERWHELMING AND I AM SO TOUCHED AND SO GRATEFUL TO ALL OF YOU.  MAY GOD BLESS YOU FOLKS.   I ONLY HOPE THAT I TOO HAVE BEEN A LITTLE GLIMMER OF HELP.  THANKS FOR LETTING ME SAY THIS........ 

 I so agree with you. This board has been a God send. I finally have something to look forward to each day, which is to log on. You have been a help, just by continuing to post and share your life with us. I missed being here yesterday due to storms. First thing I came to today. This is all new to me and still learning the ropes, when it comes to this computer stuff. Here's to everyone having a great day of hope.  

 
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March 10, 2006, 8:25 am PST

Living with Chronic Pain

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I JUST WANTED TO POP IN AND SAY TO EVERYONE, THAT I FOUND ALOT OF COMFORT, SUPPORT, EDUCATION AND UNDERSTANDING HERE ON THESE MESSAGE B. AND RELATING TO SO MANY HEALTHE PROBLEMS.  BUT AT THE SAME TIME, IN A PERFECT WORLD, I WISH FOR ALL TO NOT HAVE TO LIVE LIKE THIS, BUT JUST HAVING ALL THIS SUPPORT HAS BEEN OVERWHELMING AND I AM SO TOUCHED AND SO GRATEFUL TO ALL OF YOU.  MAY GOD BLESS YOU FOLKS.   I ONLY HOPE THAT I TOO HAVE BEEN A LITTLE GLIMMER OF HELP.  THANKS FOR LETTING ME SAY THIS........ 

What a great post. As I've stated in a prior e-mail, there are some really neat people here! You included!
 
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March 10, 2006, 9:20 am PST

March 10th "hello" everyone

  

Just checking in and catching up on the messages. 

  

Mrs. Happy Diana from Wy.. is just not too happy today. 

  

I am not feeling good at all.  Wondering if the weather is playing a mean game with me or just over did it the last few days. 

  

My better half works in a coal mine here in Wy.. We have above ground mines here. And he has 7 days off in a row each month. And he only works 14 days a month. 

So, on his "days off" he loves to run 100 MPH.. and of course I try to keep up. He is good about letting me sleep- in or having a rest day with me.. BUT, there are days it just takes all I have to keep up with him and keep a "smile" on my face and say, I feel good, let's go............................ 

  

And between just "us", there are days I can't wait for him to go back to work, so I can just "rest" and not have to fake it all day.... 

And tonight is that "day".. 

  

And then of course I put the guilt on myself, I'm only 41 years old and I feel much older and wore out. And today is just one of those days I feel "BAD".. my body hurts and my heart hurts.............. And I just wonder "how can he put up with me?" what kind of life is this for him?? 

  

And I have so much guilt about how this chronic mess I am in, effects my sex drive. It is horrible. The med's just kick me to "no drive". 

And I can't even count the time's I tell myself, okay, tonight you are going to "make fireworks" and  guess what, I am just a fizzle.. a dud.. a punk.. NO Sparks on my end..................................... 

  

Is this a problem for anyone else?? I am feeling like a "freak" about this. I know I have read how med's effect this and I know this is what has to be my problem. I never had this situation before my accident.. 

  

And so far, I have not read anything on here about it... oh, leave it to me to be the big mouth, but it is a huge issue to me.. and I feel so bad about it.. 

  

And again, between "us".. I have had more night mare's about my husband "leaving me for another women" had one last night.. he was packing up his things and she was in MY TRUCK waiting for him.. I have at least 3 of these kind of dreams a month.. 

And I always telling him, no divorce, I HAVE TO HAVE YOU HEALTH INSURANCE, yep, that's my big deal...  

  

Okay, I know you are thinking I need to get a hold of myself here.. 

  

But, dose this effect anyone else? And how do you get things "going"??  

  

I hope I have not offended anyone, but this is a problem for me, and not that I wish it on anyone else, BUT is this a problem for anyone else?? 

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

 
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March 10, 2006, 10:12 am PST

Living with Chronic Pain

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Just checking in and catching up on the messages. 

  

Mrs. Happy Diana from Wy.. is just not too happy today. 

  

I am not feeling good at all.  Wondering if the weather is playing a mean game with me or just over did it the last few days. 

  

My better half works in a coal mine here in Wy.. We have above ground mines here. And he has 7 days off in a row each month. And he only works 14 days a month. 

So, on his "days off" he loves to run 100 MPH.. and of course I try to keep up. He is good about letting me sleep- in or having a rest day with me.. BUT, there are days it just takes all I have to keep up with him and keep a "smile" on my face and say, I feel good, let's go............................ 

  

And between just "us", there are days I can't wait for him to go back to work, so I can just "rest" and not have to fake it all day.... 

And tonight is that "day".. 

  

And then of course I put the guilt on myself, I'm only 41 years old and I feel much older and wore out. And today is just one of those days I feel "BAD".. my body hurts and my heart hurts.............. And I just wonder "how can he put up with me?" what kind of life is this for him?? 

  

And I have so much guilt about how this chronic mess I am in, effects my sex drive. It is horrible. The med's just kick me to "no drive". 

And I can't even count the time's I tell myself, okay, tonight you are going to "make fireworks" and  guess what, I am just a fizzle.. a dud.. a punk.. NO Sparks on my end..................................... 

  

Is this a problem for anyone else?? I am feeling like a "freak" about this. I know I have read how med's effect this and I know this is what has to be my problem. I never had this situation before my accident.. 

  

And so far, I have not read anything on here about it... oh, leave it to me to be the big mouth, but it is a huge issue to me.. and I feel so bad about it.. 

  

And again, between "us".. I have had more night mare's about my husband "leaving me for another women" had one last night.. he was packing up his things and she was in MY TRUCK waiting for him.. I have at least 3 of these kind of dreams a month.. 

And I always telling him, no divorce, I HAVE TO HAVE YOU HEALTH INSURANCE, yep, that's my big deal...  

  

Okay, I know you are thinking I need to get a hold of myself here.. 

  

But, dose this effect anyone else? And how do you get things "going"??  

  

I hope I have not offended anyone, but this is a problem for me, and not that I wish it on anyone else, BUT is this a problem for anyone else?? 

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

Diana, 

  

You are not alone. Sex can be quiet the touchy subject to talk about. I have mixed feelings about it myself. 

  

I always tell myself "tonight will be the night" but then I'm also a punk about it. I don't know if it's the pain meds I'm on or the stress the chronic pain has caused in my life and my relationship or not. My husband, who was also in the MVA accident with my is on pain meds as well. Our sex life has is practically non-existent and we are both very young. I'm suppose to be in my "prime". There are days when I become bitter about it and when I just want that intimacy and I'll approach my husband about it, but then later that night, I'm turning him down. And there are days when it's reversed. We can't seem to get in sync with one another. He moreso than I, however. I have much of a sex drive than he has. We were told the medication he is on will decrease his sex drive, but I didn't think that would throw him nonexistent land.  

  

I guess at this point, I'm not afraid of him going elsewhere because he seems to be in the same boat as I, but as Dr. Phil alwasy says, it isn't the frequency of your sex, it's the intimacy and in a good relationship it just happens, everyone needs that closeness. But unfortunately, with those of us struggling with chronic pain, it isn't that easy.  

  

I'm at a loss here, but I just wanted you to know that you are not alone whatsoever.  

  

As far as "getting things going"....that isn't so much my husband's problem, that's mine. If I were to approach him a sexy manner, he just needs the right "mindset", doesn't take him long. But for me, a little "groping" doesn't do it anylonger...a little sexy talk doesn't either. I need much more stimulation than that. We've tried numerous things (and I hope this doesn't offend anyone either), but we've tried sex toys, we've tried pornography, we've tried longer periods of foreplay....and when women aren't in the mood (or myself rather, I shouldn't classify everyone here), the more you touch me, the more I become "ticklish" and simply ruins the mood.  

  

So if anyone has any advice, I'll love to hear it myself. 

  

  

 
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March 10, 2006, 12:33 pm PST

Thank you......

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Diana, 

  

You are not alone. Sex can be quiet the touchy subject to talk about. I have mixed feelings about it myself. 

  

I always tell myself "tonight will be the night" but then I'm also a punk about it. I don't know if it's the pain meds I'm on or the stress the chronic pain has caused in my life and my relationship or not. My husband, who was also in the MVA accident with my is on pain meds as well. Our sex life has is practically non-existent and we are both very young. I'm suppose to be in my "prime". There are days when I become bitter about it and when I just want that intimacy and I'll approach my husband about it, but then later that night, I'm turning him down. And there are days when it's reversed. We can't seem to get in sync with one another. He moreso than I, however. I have much of a sex drive than he has. We were told the medication he is on will decrease his sex drive, but I didn't think that would throw him nonexistent land.  

  

I guess at this point, I'm not afraid of him going elsewhere because he seems to be in the same boat as I, but as Dr. Phil alwasy says, it isn't the frequency of your sex, it's the intimacy and in a good relationship it just happens, everyone needs that closeness. But unfortunately, with those of us struggling with chronic pain, it isn't that easy.  

  

I'm at a loss here, but I just wanted you to know that you are not alone whatsoever.  

  

As far as "getting things going"....that isn't so much my husband's problem, that's mine. If I were to approach him a sexy manner, he just needs the right "mindset", doesn't take him long. But for me, a little "groping" doesn't do it anylonger...a little sexy talk doesn't either. I need much more stimulation than that. We've tried numerous things (and I hope this doesn't offend anyone either), but we've tried sex toys, we've tried pornography, we've tried longer periods of foreplay....and when women aren't in the mood (or myself rather, I shouldn't classify everyone here), the more you touch me, the more I become "ticklish" and simply ruins the mood.  

  

So if anyone has any advice, I'll love to hear it myself. 

  

  

  

Good afternoon 

  

Thank you so much for talking about this. 

  

 And I never thought about "stress" that we live with on a day to day bases, then to add just the chronic pain on it's own level and all that follows this. Duh, stress can do so many things to our minds and body's.  

  

And how true about "frequency and intimacy". When you said this, it was like a light turned on in my head. 

  

  

When I was a working Mom and Wife, I always went with the thought that there was a huge difference with my "time". That is was not about how much time I spent with my family, it was the quality of the time that I spent with my family. 

  

And again, thank you for being so "open" about different approaches. I had a friend who told me that when she got married, her Mother told her.. "what goes on behind close doors, the sky can be the limit, as long as both of you are holding hands while you are flying together and hurt is never involved".. And how true. 

  

And to be funny here, a few years back, a group of my friends were having /toy party's and I always use to tell the hostess of these parties, "this is one time I can blow as much money as I want and my husband never complains about these parties and the amount I write the check for" and all of us girls would just crack up laughing... But is was a true statement.. He was always up waiting for me to get home to see what I bought.  

 

 

 

I think I need to put in some extra time on "effort"..  

  

 

I know that I have said before, that I try to make the effort everyday to get up and put on make-up and get dressed. (lol, it's not happening today) but, I need to make it a priority more offent than trying to clean or laundry or not letting the dishes "sit" over night.. 

 

Wow, I feel much clearer in my thoughts now.. 

 

 

Thank you again.. 

  

 

 

I am feeling so much better now than this morning.. THANK YOU.. 

  

 

Diana 

 

 

 
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March 10, 2006, 2:04 pm PST

Living with Chronic Pain

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Good afternoon 

  

Thank you so much for talking about this. 

  

 And I never thought about "stress" that we live with on a day to day bases, then to add just the chronic pain on it's own level and all that follows this. Duh, stress can do so many things to our minds and body's.  

  

And how true about "frequency and intimacy". When you said this, it was like a light turned on in my head. 

  

  

When I was a working Mom and Wife, I always went with the thought that there was a huge difference with my "time". That is was not about how much time I spent with my family, it was the quality of the time that I spent with my family. 

  

And again, thank you for being so "open" about different approaches. I had a friend who told me that when she got married, her Mother told her.. "what goes on behind close doors, the sky can be the limit, as long as both of you are holding hands while you are flying together and hurt is never involved".. And how true. 

  

And to be funny here, a few years back, a group of my friends were having /toy party's and I always use to tell the hostess of these parties, "this is one time I can blow as much money as I want and my husband never complains about these parties and the amount I write the check for" and all of us girls would just crack up laughing... But is was a true statement.. He was always up waiting for me to get home to see what I bought.  

 

 

 

I think I need to put in some extra time on "effort"..  

  

 

I know that I have said before, that I try to make the effort everyday to get up and put on make-up and get dressed. (lol, it's not happening today) but, I need to make it a priority more offent than trying to clean or laundry or not letting the dishes "sit" over night.. 

 

Wow, I feel much clearer in my thoughts now.. 

 

 

Thank you again.. 

  

 

 

I am feeling so much better now than this morning.. THANK YOU.. 

  

 

Diana 

 

 

Diana, 

  

Well, you are welcome. We shouldn't be afraid to talk about our sexuality. We all have sex for heaven's sake.  

  

I'm glad you feel much better. It's always nice to know your not alone.  

  

But as you stated, getting dressed, putting on make-up, etc. makes you feel soooo good. Not only for your husband, but also for yourself. One night try getting as much rest as possible, wake up with a happy face, get dressed, put your make-up on and WOW your husband. You might be surprised how sexy you feel and how many "fire works" your able to light that night. And if you're too tired at night, what about a nooner? Morning? Right before dinner? Who said we need to be intimate in the evening?  

  

I often times let myself go as well. Don't get me wrong. Being a mother and a wife and living with chronic pain is stressful, but when I do something nice for ME, I learn to appreciate life and all that comes with being a mother and a wife. I'm not perfect, never will be, nor am I the perfect mother or wife...BUT....when you feel good about yourself, everyone notices.  

  

Your comment about the sex parties made me laugh. You were so right. You know, you could even try a romantic dinner at home for when your husband gets home from work, that might set the mood and this way, you have all day to "prepare" yourself, get in that mind set.  

  

And also, did you know that having an orgasm is a powerful pain killer? Oxytocin, a chemical in the body is released and also endorphins. So perhaps we should contemplate being more intimate with our significant others for the sake of our chronic pain!  

  

  

 
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March 10, 2006, 5:52 pm PST

ulcerated colitis

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Do they have you on fiber? If not you might try a fiber regimen the clear mixes are not bad and do help or they have pills. I have tried them some work some dont. I have went back to using stool softeners cos they work but they also cramp but are dependable. I had to use milk of mag as well with the fiber and it upset my stomach .

Maggie55, I'm guessing your the post that Has Ulcerated Colitis problems. Yep I had my share of this Christmas 05 in the hospital. You mentioned, "NEUROTIN". I took this for my FMS problems about 2 years. It did help w/FMS...& then one day my body I guess started going into it's 7 year change. NEUROTIN, has been used for many things & has helped many people. 

Most  people don't get enough fiber in their daily diets. For myself I found eating, Whole grain TOTAL cereal, was a great sourse of fiber for me. I also eat, Metamucil Apple Fiber Wafers, daily. 

My doctor put me on: NULEV tabs,BENTYL capsules, & Prevacid 30 mg/twice daily, for colitis.  As long as I eat right, I'm in hopes of getting better.  

I looked back into my family history, finding my grandmother & great grand mother had alot of colon problems. Back in their days, they ate what they grew out of the garden. Some things  just run in our genes. Does for the women in my family, anyways. 

Some people believe in, MIND OVER MATTER. This might work for some people...But, others-not! 

  My youngest daughter, works full time, has 1 son + going to school to become a LPN. My oldest daughter, works part time, has 3 children & is going to school to get her RN lic. 

My youngest daughter took sickly, but kept burning the candle at both ends- my oldest daughter kept telling her, your not sick just lazy. NO TWO PEOPLE ARE THE SAME! 

I talked my youngest daughter into going to see my doctor. Of course my oldest daughter didn't approve of this, because she wanted to believe her sister was LAZY. My oldeat daughter is  a "MIND OVER MATTER PERSON. " Well, my youngest daughter went thru---TEST-TEST-finding her to be VERY RUN DOWN & ANEMIC.... Here's the catch: Oldest daughter's husband cooks for their family. Youngest daughter is divorced-eats fast foods....SO WE ARE WHAT WE EAT! 

Lets face it, in Todays World-It's a fast pace, everybody's stressed out trying to make ends meet, wanting more & more. Once our healths down, we are down. I'm ashamed to say , it took me 53 years to see-What my great grandmom said, "Life is short, take care of your health & enjoy smelling the roses along the way". I have now learned to let things go over my head(stress) , If I can't fix it, The Good Lord can -if it's in his will.  Although I'm sickly-I praise the Lord, daily for what I do have. Because so many people have less! God's strength is made perfect in my weakness. 

I'll remember you Maggie55 in my daily prayers.   

  

  

 
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March 10, 2006, 6:06 pm PST

B-12 shots++

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i am giving myself B-12 shots and i've been taking calcium magnesium and manganese for years and years.

 I also take B-12 shots, weekly + 1 a day vitamins + The NEW-Vitasmart Sugar Free Calcium soft chews. They have 500mg each (I TAKE 3 a day) calcium with vitamins D & K.  MMMMMMMMMMM 

they are good. 

 
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March 10, 2006, 9:54 pm PST

Chronic Pain

Hi all. I've had rheumatoid arthritis for almost 9 years now. I am in pain daily. Some days are better, some are worse. Some I can't dress myself or tend to myself after using the toilet. Last year I lost my job at Wall World when I needed to take a leave of absence. They gave me 15 days to get the doctor to fill out my paperwork,or I would be considered QUIT. The doctor couldn't even get me an appointment for atleast 3 months, and would NOT fill out the papers until he examined me. I've tried to get disability, got denied, hired a lawyer(he's also my landlord), filed for a reconsideration, got denied, got to go see my lawyer/landlord Thursday at his office. I am so afraid that me and my son (20yrs. old & working) will become homeless. I already skip some meals, but I could stand to loose a couple pounds.       But anyway, just venting and hurting. LOVE YA, BYE 

 
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March 10, 2006, 11:13 pm PST

pajokirby....we Have to take charge of our medical care!!

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 I'm sure wishing you luck w/topamax, for your headaches. HEADACHES ARE NO FUN. 

I went to 4 doctors in 12 years, w/my headaches. I was eatting 100 Excedrin a week for my pain

All I ever heard from the doctors was; your a women w/depression. Treating me w/all kind of depression drugs & getting no place. As the headaches got worse, my eyes were crossing up, dizzy spells would come & go, ears ringing & etc.. Not the first doctor gave me a MRI on my head. Although one doctor did a wristwatch hearing test on me because my ears were ringing & had the nerve to call me a lier. 

When my grandmom took ill, I got a chance to talk w/her doctor about my problem. First thing he did was send me for a MRI. BINGO- A brain tumor. I was sent to Emory Hospital in Atlanta, Ga. 

Dr. Barrow, removed it, taking 11 1/2 hours.This was 15 years ago, I was 38 years old.  

My tumor had grown til it had no more room for growth. 

Funny thing was, every time I went to the doctor, I tried to DX myself to them. Made them mad. One of my Doctors said, "O' its all in your head, meaning I was crazy!  Well he was 1/2 right. It was in my head, but I'm not crazy.  I had 12 long years of reading medical books, I knew my problem was a tumor. We know our bodies better than anyone else!!!! I learned after this, IF a doctor doesn't listen to me as I'm speaking about my health--It's time to move on. Because There's more than one fish in the sea. I HATE A GUESSING DOCTOR, alot of those out there. ...I HATE A DOCTOR TO SAY, well your a woman......Don't wanna hear that, been there done that. Again good luck, I'll add you to my prayer list. 

I know exactly what you mean!! If I didn't play doctor half the time, I wouldn't be here. And, have you noticed that with Doctor's..arrogence breads stupidity, BIG TIME. Every arrogent doctor I've had has either lied about their experience, tried new things I found later to be contadictary to my conditions, sometimes making a bad problem worse, than have the nerve to say, "it's all in your head", more like thiers is too big with ego, and mine is just fine. I've learned, if a Doctor is arrogant, walk away!! The last Internest I had, told me to go to different hospital than I'm used to, that they might be able to find out why I was becoming allergic to every antibiotic in a short period of time, got there, just to meet his arrogant twin, and he had the nerve to say, "well, what abtibiotic do you want me to give you", like I was making it up! I told him I'm not a Doctor or Pharmicist, how about one that won't kill me. He sent me home with one I had never heard of, went to get filled, THANK GOD, my pharmicist cares, and refused to fill, it would have killed me. I asked him what I should do, told him what happened. As this was 3rd time in a row, between Internist and this Doctor, and the fact that they talked on the phone while I was in ER, he said HE would take care of it..My old Internist was reviewed, the Doctor at hospital put on suspension. Pulled records from Internist, on the first page, was a letter he had wrote about me, before getting any other records, stating that he did not believe in the diseases I was diognosed with, and felt that I had a mental problem. I wish I was a hypocondriac..with HMO's and Medicare..I'de be on a pychiatrist couch, not in hospital all the time and haveng 25 surgeries on jaw alone (2 metal jaw prosthesis, 3rd waiting for, this one broke) I guess he thought I could create my own X-rays, too, as well as fool SSDI and 2 of the best surgeoens and the World Chair of Enviromental Medicine as well...I must be good. I started doctoring myself at that point..got educated in everything the net would let me, and medical library at OSU. I finally got new Internist last May, she's from Russia, and she actually gets it...not arrogent in any way, and says I'm someone she looks forward to looking after, as she loves a challange, and will learn alot, and can't wait to work with the GOOD Dr's I have...so far so good. Glad to hear you were so adament and held to your convictions, and your right, we know our bodies better than they ever will, after all we live in them!! The doctors that have saved my life(there are a few, as I have faced death several times), have been nice, caring, honest and mostly soft spoken. Must be something about personality traits that make a good Doctor good, and something "in THEIR head" that makes a bad Doctor bad. It's been a frustrating 12 yrs..but weaning the bad ones out quicker, now, recognize the attitude faster, and move on, or stay. God is definately not finished with me yet, and I'm not letting anymore Doctor's try to take me out before He says it's finished. I see He is not done with you yet either, maybe it is to testify to that "It's in your head", attitude, so keep it up. It helped me and made me realize how blessed I am to have doctored myself when I needed to, and to never second guess myself. Thank you for posting your story. God bless, valerie   P.S.  Maxalt great and wonder drug for me on my migrains, related to Imitrex, but no side effects or face pain.
 
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