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March 16, 2008, 4:25 pm PDT

Living with Chronic Pain

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I am a 40 year old with a wonderful husband, 8 year old daughter and 4 year old  son. I have had bulging discs at the L4-5 & L5-S1 since I was 21 and was usually able to control my pain with OTC's, exercise, chiropractics, and massage until January '04, when I fell roller skating. I have been through going to Primary physician, PT, 3 orthopedists, 3 MRI's (showed I haved bulges at L2 thru S1 and C4 thru C7, degenerative disc disease, and spinal stenosis), epidurals, 1 myelogram, and lots of meds. In November '04 found out from myelogram that I had a ruptured disc at L4-5 and had a laminectomy on 12/06/04 removing a 3cm piece. I did really well until about 4 weeks post surgery when I started the walking and pt.  My back pain is close to the pain level that I had before my surgery and still have pain in my low back, buttocks (left side and sometimes the right), and into my left leg (sometimes the right), heel and foot.

My orthopedist that did the laminectomy would never listen when I brought up the neck problems and the pain and numbness in my left arm and hand.  Finally, had an EMG done which came up positive for moderate carpal tunnel (didn't rule out radiculopathy) and he gave me a cortisone shot. That got rid of the numbness in my fingers for a couple of weeks but never the pain. I have severe pain and numbness that gets worse every day, in my neck, both shoulder blades, arms and hands. I have a very hard time eating, writing, crocheting, typing, and anything that requires any grip & have muscle atrophy and scared I may have permanent nerve damage.    I was let go from my job of 10 years on March due to my health and have filed with SSD (was denied the first time and have an attorney on it and they are continuing the denial at this time).  At this point I have severe cervical and lumbar pain and am very scared I will be paralyzed and/or lose the use of my hands.

My last visit with the orthopedist on 6/02, he told me he couldn't do anything else for me (you know, no more insurance!!) and that "no one would help me for free."  He sent me back to my primary for pain meds and she sent me to a pain clinic.  That doc currently has me on Methadone 10mg 4x, Robaxin 750mg 4x, Neurotin 300mg 3x, Nortriptylin 25mg bedtime, Prozac 20mg morning, and Percocet apap 5/325 for breakthrough pain (what is breakthrough pain?--the constant pain I have regardless of all the other meds?).  Have also been on Vicadin, Valium, Darvacet, Percodan, Flexural and others.    At this time, I have no insurance and don't qualify for medical assistance and I need medical treatment very badly and am suffering from depression and suicidal thoughts.  I really don't know what to do.  I applied for disability in Feb., was denied and have an attorney on it.  Got a letter a week ago and SSD is continuing the denial for lack of info.  My orthopedist, due to not listening to me, put in my medical records that I was getting better (the actual disc that he did treatment on, not all the other problems that he wouldn't address!) and SSD says that I should be able to work full-time come 11-05.  There is no way I will be able to do this and need to at least get a consultation with a "good" doc, one that will actually listen to me.   I have called the ER close to me because I am having so much pain in my left arm I am that desperate, but we don't have a doc close to here that would be able to help me and they would only be able to give me pain meds.  Lot of good that will do.     All that I can pray for is that soon I will get in touch with someone that knows someone that knows of a program or somthing that I will qualify for and can get some help.  I am so tired of calling people to see if they will take payments for treatment, but, everyone wants full payment up front.  If I can get fixed and make payments, I will be able to go back to work to pay it off.  If I wait too long, I will be permanently disabled and no longer to even think of going back to a normal life and working.  I guess only God knows.  Thanks for listening!!    LisaB From Missouri (Misery?)

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I believe doctors over medicate patients with pain med's. Sounds like alot of stuff you are on. I realize you suffer with pain, as do i. But-i refuse to medicate with 3-4 different medications. Try pain patches (prescrption one's). Walk all you can .

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March 17, 2008, 5:35 am PDT

Monday Morning Hello

Good Morning Everyone

 

It's Monday....  Also it's Spring Break for the school kids here. Which means I have a really easy work week., due to one of my clients are home all week with her kids..

And to be honest, I'm ready for a easy week....

 

We had about 5 inches of snow yesterday and it's the real nice "wet stuff".. it was so pretty as it snowed.

 

Lashy.. It was wonderful to see you on my e-mail and also HERE... YEAH. YAHOO. YIPPY-SKIPPY/....

 

Becky.. Can't wait to hear how the weekend was and how you are feeling.. Missed You...

 

Everyone.... I have my fingers crossed the weekend was good and everything and everyone are doing A-Okay....

 

All My Love.. Dianah

 

 

 
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March 17, 2008, 6:06 am PDT

PROF.. HELLO HELLO HELLO..........

Hi there

 

It's a big 18 degree's out here in the wild west... Good news, no wind yet...

 

Wanted to Thank You for sharing with me, about your "heart".. I remember now.. you talking about it..

And you are so right, the medications that are out there, are wonderful....

 

I do not like the feeling of having the "air" knocked out of me.. Ya know what I mean....

 

Well, You and Hubby won the bet....

 

They did come in the house Sat.. and I was short with them and kept right on doing what I was doing and they left.. oh, the phone rang also.. HA.. I was saved by the bell...

 

Then took a nap and woke up to an envelope on the counter and there was a note.. telling me she had two jobs on the hook and that they would start paying us $100.00 every two weeks.................................,.

 

Now,, we need to back up to Friday Evening.. Talking with daughter in-law "thought" that Mom had paid roommate for some work he had done for her.. plus pre-paid him and he never finished the work...

So... I called Mom and she told me NO.. that roommate did do 10 hrs worth of work for her and she only paid him for those hrs.. (10.00 an hr).. Okay...

 

BUT... then she went on to tell me that HE was giving her a song and dance on all the bills they were behind on and THEN..... HE ASKED MY MOM FOR A LOAN.........................................................................

She told him she would think about it.. then she told him.. "if I were to loan you any money, My Daughter would have a fit and fall in it".... and he nodded his head, yes...........

 

After that day.. he's never been over to finish the work and could have made another 200.00...................

 

PROF.. After I hung up with MOM.. I went into a complete body-shaking MAD.. from my toes to my head..

 

That is my 66 yr old Mother!!!

 

Long story short.. hubby said he was Not surprised and that he wanted me to calm down and made me promise Not to Go off the deep end........ He said he knew I was so up-set that I might hit him...... And he wanted me to just calm down.. give it a few days and then we will go from there.....

 

So.. I told him.. as long as they stay out of my face.. I would shut up for now........................

 

Prof.. what is just throwing me out of whack here.. These two people know ME.. they know how PROTECTIVE I am over my Husband, Son and Mother..... They know this... And that they would cross this line is Crazy....

 

I am over the top.. mad... it's one thing, that I have let this go on.. but to go to my Mom and ask her for money.. and the big joke.. oh, he told her..  "oh, we will pay you back".......................

With what........ ugggggg....

 

I also talked with Roommates folks on Friday.. We are very close.. She said she just gave them a $1000.00 three weeks ago.. should say.. another 1000.00.....

And they told me.. to KICK THEM OUT...

They said they were done and they were tapped out on the money end also.. and that we have given and they have taken.....

 

Of course, at that point I did not know about my Mom... And told her, I can't do that.. the only other place they could go.. was there home.. and that's two hrs away...............

 

OH.. Prof.. again.. thanks for letting me "let it out".....

 

I've done this to myself and hubby and I need to do something..... just what???

 

I do know.. that May first.. their 5th wheel.. is GONE... Brother wants it back........

 

So, do I just wait unit then.. or kick them out.......  ???????

 

Okay.. Grandma is my 87 yr old that I take care of.... oh Prof.. You would love her.. You two would have so much to talk about...

She is so wise..... She is always talking about the "good old boy system" with the politics...........................

 

Her and I laugh all the time about how much trouble "we" both get into with our.. tell it like it is.. big mouths.. ha ha ha....

 

She's feeling much better.. had her domino party Sat... So.. that's telling me she's better............ 4 or 5 of them every Sat night, Party at her house... ha ha ha///

 

Okay.. Again.. it helps to just get this out....

 

The roads are black ice.. so I better get ready and leave early.. so I can drive slow....

 

Again.. thanks for your ears...

 

Love and Hope... Diana

 
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March 17, 2008, 9:57 am PDT

my weekend

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hurrah!  now come on over to my house...

 

i totally understand your sense of accomplishment.  and it was nice of you to leave things clean for john and the hotrod kid.  i hope the retreat is refreshing -- and that you stay warm -- and get some sleep.  i've only been on two church retreats, and on both i stayed up all night, talking and having fun -- and then getting sick as soon as we got home.  i wouldn't trade the experience for anything, though.

 

i bet you are asked to head up most of the music-making...  what i wouldn't give to have your musical talent.  don't laugh at me, okay?  before my first shoulder replacement, i bought a violin!  i thought it would be a great way to rehab after surgery.  DUH!  i actually found someone who works at a homeless outreach center who *advertised*  her need of a violin!  she was from belgium, i think, and was doing mission work with her husband and son.  the violin was for the little boy.  well... i may not be able to play, but music is integral to my life.  gets me through a lot.

 

i bet it feels weird to swallow with that swollen throat.  so glad the pathology reports were good!

 

well... you probably won't get this before you leave... so:  have a good time AND welcome home!

 

prof

On Friday, I was so depressed and not feeling well, and I almost cancelled out of going on the weekend...but I went anyway, and I'm glad that I did.  It was really inspirational...really good speaker.  And, I learned how to make beads out of strips of magazine paper and made a pretty necklace.  Yes, I did sing there...I sang the songs I wrote...their words went right along with the subject matter for the weekend, and the ladies really enjoyed hearing it.

 

I started on thyroid meds this morning.  The imbalance of thyroid hormone really messed up one of my other meds...I had a "spacey" feeling and hand tremors...my doctor warned me about this, and I am temporarily of of that med until the thyroid levels are balanced out.  But it took me a couple of lousy-feeling days to remember the doctor's warning and to recognize that my symptoms were the ones that she described.  I'm still not feeling the best, but with eliminating the Abilify for a few days, and starting on the Thyroid med, I'm sure I'll be feeling better soon.  I also over-did it on the fruit over the weekend...last year, there were way too many sweets, so this year, the sweets were banned in favor of healthy foods...I spent Saturday night with a tummy ache, and camped out in the bathroom feeling really sick.  In spite of all that, I still had a good time, and I'm glad that I went to the retreat.

 

My throat is getting less and less swollen...just a little swollen today...swallowing is getting much easier.

 

I'm glad to see Lashy back!! 

 

I've been keeping everybody here in my prayers...I got a prayer journal at our retreat, so now, I can take notes and pray even better.

 

John's mom is in the hospital with pneumonia.  She had bronchitis last week, which didn' t respond to the antibiotics the doctor gave her.  Yesterday, she got bad enough that John's sister decided that she should be in the hospital.  She is on IV antibiotic.  They gave her an albuterol breathing treatment, and her heart rate shot up to 180!!  The meds that they gave her to slow down her heart made her blood pressure really low.  The dextrose IV is driving her blood sugar up (above 300), and she is refusing insulin...she is type II diabetic, and she controls it strictly with diet.  John's sister is at the hospital, and she will help work things out between mom and the doc.  They switched her breathing meds to Xopenex, which doesn't affect the heart so much.  The doctors are doing blood cultures to see specifically what bacteria John's mom has, so they can use appropriate antibotics.  She has smoked for years and years (age 85), and there is a lot of damage to her lungs as a result.  Please keep her in your prayers.  I talked with her briefly this morning just to let her know that we are praying for her...emails went out to our church members, my siblings, cousins, aunts, etc.

 

Well, gotta get my morning coffee and get to my day...Becky

 
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March 17, 2008, 3:35 pm PDT

hi dianah

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Good Morning Everyone

 

It's Monday....  Also it's Spring Break for the school kids here. Which means I have a really easy work week., due to one of my clients are home all week with her kids..

And to be honest, I'm ready for a easy week....

 

We had about 5 inches of snow yesterday and it's the real nice "wet stuff".. it was so pretty as it snowed.

 

Lashy.. It was wonderful to see you on my e-mail and also HERE... YEAH. YAHOO. YIPPY-SKIPPY/....

 

Becky.. Can't wait to hear how the weekend was and how you are feeling.. Missed You...

 

Everyone.... I have my fingers crossed the weekend was good and everything and everyone are doing A-Okay....

 

All My Love.. Dianah

 

 

The weekend went great!!  See previous post.

 

I am still feeling weird this afternoon...also see previous post...my meds are out of balance, and one of them is making me feel sick because of the low thyroid...I started on thyroid meds this morning.  My psych doc will be calling me this afternoon to advise me on what to do about the med that is causing me to feel sick...I didn't take it at all last night...I felt like that was the best...it's not one of those which need to be tapered down...but I am still feeling sick this afternoon...I was able to run a few errands this morning OK, but now, I am just resting...I've got a lot to do...just can't seem to get my head into the game.

 

gotta go...Becky

 
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March 17, 2008, 6:40 pm PDT

Monday Night Hello

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The weekend went great!!  See previous post.

 

I am still feeling weird this afternoon...also see previous post...my meds are out of balance, and one of them is making me feel sick because of the low thyroid...I started on thyroid meds this morning.  My psych doc will be calling me this afternoon to advise me on what to do about the med that is causing me to feel sick...I didn't take it at all last night...I felt like that was the best...it's not one of those which need to be tapered down...but I am still feeling sick this afternoon...I was able to run a few errands this morning OK, but now, I am just resting...I've got a lot to do...just can't seem to get my head into the game.

 

gotta go...Becky

Hi Becky

 

I'm so glad your weekend was so wonderful for your heart and soul.. There's nothing like a "get-away-" weekend with the girls..

 

I'm so sorry the meds are being so hard on you/. HANG IN THERE.. I am so feeling for you. This is not a fun road to be on.

 

Also, so proud of you for doing the "healthy " eating over the weekend.

 

Hang in there...

 

All My Love and Hope... Dianah

 
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March 18, 2008, 8:40 am PDT

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Hi Becky

 

I'm so glad your weekend was so wonderful for your heart and soul.. There's nothing like a "get-away-" weekend with the girls..

 

I'm so sorry the meds are being so hard on you/. HANG IN THERE.. I am so feeling for you. This is not a fun road to be on.

 

Also, so proud of you for doing the "healthy " eating over the weekend.

 

Hang in there...

 

All My Love and Hope... Dianah

I talked with the doctor over the phone about my syptoms...spacey, nausea, weak limbs, tingling in hands and feet, etc, and she said that it sounds more like an electrolyte imbalance than a med problem...she wants me to go in today for some bloodwork and check that out...I'll let you know how that goes...still feeling funky, but a little better this morning.  I'm chug-a-lugging the Gatorade...Becky
 
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March 18, 2008, 10:43 am PDT

Tue Moring..

Well, I can still say.. Good Morning...

 

Day off today and slept in and then had my Son over for coffee this morning.. That was way nice and a great way to start my day...

 

I made an apt with the Dr for this Friday, to check my knee out.. this pain is not getting better. So, will see how I do the next few days....

 

My hands are going thur the "ice" stage and it's about to drive me crazy.. no matter what I do.. they are so cold.. And I can really tell that they are cold, my ring wants to fall off.....

 

 

A week ago.. Hubby and I started a low fat program and Sat I started the diet drug.. Ali... I was already for  my Bottom to BLOW OFF....

Well.. so far... nothing......... I am doing just fine on this new drug.. YEAH.... But, re-reading the book, it' will only effect you if you go over 30% of fat in a meal.. and can take up to 24 to 72 hours for the "effect" to hit you....

 

Well, this girl is eating more, but LESS.. and I have not gone over on my fat intake.. But, whats so wonderful.. the few times I have thought about going  crazy and eating those Thin Mint Cookies from the Girl Scouts... It has only been a thought....

 

The idea of the "side effects" of this pill... NO THANKS.. so I grab an apple or banana and I am off and running from the kitchen ... ha ha ha...

 

And happy to report.. I am down 6 pounds......

 

I just keep telling myself this is a LIFE STYLE...

 

I need to loose 102 pounds.. but.. right now.. it's 20.. then another 20 and so on.. Small steps..................

 

Okay....

 

Becky... I'll check in after I get hubby off to work at 4 this afternoon.. He's starts nights tonight... So, can't wait to see what's going on with You..

So glad the Dr wanted to see you...

Hang In There....................................

 

Prof...  Time to open the door and at least peek out...........

 

Everyone...  Hope today is being kind...

 

Love Dianah

 

 

 

 

 
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March 18, 2008, 12:03 pm PDT

Living with Chronic Pain

good afternoon, all --

 

i'm hoping it's not the flu -- don't think it is, because i don't feel *that* bad -- but i woke up with a fever, swollen neck glands, a sore throat, no voice, and a barking cough.  bark bark!  woof!  oddly enough, i feel better emotionally -- and i know why, and the reason is absolutely pitiful:

 

i have an excuse for taking a "slug" day! 

 

i did manage to get up and do the "morning chores" (doesn't it sound like i live on a farm?), and am back in bed, sipping on a great cup of coffee.  i think it is great -- my taste buds are on vacation.  whatever -- it is strong, the way i like it.  all of the cats are with me, and i am occasionally pressed into play mode by dobby, who has gathered three of his balls on the bed... he likes to play fetch.  weird cat.  at least i am making headway with his mother -- marmy is decidedly more friendly these days.  she must have led a harrowing existence when she lived on the streets.  i will never be able to get the picture of her big old dirty pregnant self out of my mind!  she is so tiny -- i don't know how she managed.  (yes, i do -- hank, her hero, came along!)

 

have i ever mentioned how stupid and chatty i get with a fever????

 

i need to say something, and i need someone to hear me.  over the weekend, i fell into despair.  i spent most of friday and saturday researching the ketamine coma treatment, reading scientific stuff, pseudo-scientific stuff, watching videos, reading blogs, etc.  it hit me saturday night that i don't fit the profile for a coma treatment.  i have significant health problems that preceded crps/rsd;  my immune system sucks;  i do not have a real support system; and i am not independently wealthy... 

 

it started as something nagging a corner of my consciousness -- there was something awfully similar about all the case reports (case reports and anecdote are all they have as "data" right now, because so few have done it, and because the fda won't approve the treatment -- they won't approve any coma treatment that goes beyond 2 days.  go figure...).  anyway.  long story, short:  i don't qualify for the ketamine protocol. 

 

i will still seek an evaluation, either from dr. kirkpatrick in tampa, or dr. schwartzman in philadelphia.  for some reason, over the weekend i came to prefer dr. s. -- he is head of neurology at drexel univ. college of medicine.  dr. k. is more properly a pain management doctor -- with a background in anesthesia.  he is sometimes over the top in his methods, though -- or so it seems to me.  sometimes his passion is a turn-off.  it comes through in minor things -- like insisting that patients travel by "air ambulance," stuff like that.  he also comes close, i think, to burning some bridges to the more conservative members of academic medicine.  blah blah blah.

 

who has a spare $50,000+ burning a hole in their pocket, anyway?  i think that figure is probably on the low side -- *every* story that i read had unforeseen complications that required longer hospitalization, a longer stay for the families, etc.  of course, most of the families had "resources" above and beyond their strong love and support. 

 

aw, crap.  never mind.  jealousy will get me nowhere!  the pictures of family standing behind these pretty, healthy-looking, tan, and smiling young girls -- are very touching.  and it is clear that people with significant comorbidities, beyond a certain age, and with full body crps, don't qualify!  i mean, even these relatively healthy candidates came down with pneumonia on the third or fourth day of coma... and emerged from the experience too weak to talk, unable to sit up (much less, walk!), and terrified from ketamine hallucinations.  needless to say, i probably would croak.

 

okay, i am done!

 

becky, i am so glad your retreat was fulfilling and fun -- aside from the fruit fiasco.  and i hope you get your electrolytes under control.  ummmm, have you been doing too much, too soon?  hmmm?  smooches!

 

dianah, i have to confess that i don't understand your roomies' mindset at all.  why in the world would he hit on your mother for money?  are they that desperate?  the whole situation must be driving you nuts... there have been a few times when hank and i were looking at pretty empty bank accounts -- and, in addition to going out and making money the old-fashioned way, we absolutely lived within our means.  we still do -- sometimes to a frustrating point!  it sounds like they don't get the concept!  still, i hope you can salvage your friendship -- is that going to be possible?  and, hey, how are *you*?  does warmer weather help reduce your pain any?  my crps has a cold weather and a warm weather "persona" -- in cool/cold weather, my extremities are usually shrunken, blue, ice cold;  in warm/hot weather, they are swollen, bright red, hot.   the pain doesn't change, though!  except that in the warmer months, with all the swelling, it is easier for hands and feet to get bumped or brushed up on stuff -- causing more pain.  total weirdness.  how is your friend's husband -- who was burned and life-flghted?  how terrible...

 

ms. lashy!  i was, like everyone, thrilled to see your post!  the changes you mention -- yes, ma'am -- they need to be made, else you are just going to drop from CHF and fatigue.  and you know what a vicious cycle that is -- my last big experience with it, i was teaching full time, going to grad school, and still working at the homeless shelter -- even with my lungs gurgling and my ankles the size of texas... you must get lot of rest.  as much as you help everyone else, it is time for everyone else to help YOU. 

 

hey, becca!  shoot... i am running out of steam!  i hope you feel better soon -- oh, and how cool that you are going to see jacob.  valentine's day, at long last!

 

hullos to maggie, debbie, pickles, morgan, karin, laura, melanie... EVERYONE!

 

and hello to all the newcomers, i hope you will all stick around and share what you know, and just socialize a little, too.  if you are out there lurking -- come on in, the water is fine!

 

love,

prof

 

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March 18, 2008, 12:18 pm PDT

Living with Chronic Pain

Quote From: dianah

Well, I can still say.. Good Morning...

 

Day off today and slept in and then had my Son over for coffee this morning.. That was way nice and a great way to start my day...

 

I made an apt with the Dr for this Friday, to check my knee out.. this pain is not getting better. So, will see how I do the next few days....

 

My hands are going thur the "ice" stage and it's about to drive me crazy.. no matter what I do.. they are so cold.. And I can really tell that they are cold, my ring wants to fall off.....

 

 

A week ago.. Hubby and I started a low fat program and Sat I started the diet drug.. Ali... I was already for  my Bottom to BLOW OFF....

Well.. so far... nothing......... I am doing just fine on this new drug.. YEAH.... But, re-reading the book, it' will only effect you if you go over 30% of fat in a meal.. and can take up to 24 to 72 hours for the "effect" to hit you....

 

Well, this girl is eating more, but LESS.. and I have not gone over on my fat intake.. But, whats so wonderful.. the few times I have thought about going  crazy and eating those Thin Mint Cookies from the Girl Scouts... It has only been a thought....

 

The idea of the "side effects" of this pill... NO THANKS.. so I grab an apple or banana and I am off and running from the kitchen ... ha ha ha...

 

And happy to report.. I am down 6 pounds......

 

I just keep telling myself this is a LIFE STYLE...

 

I need to loose 102 pounds.. but.. right now.. it's 20.. then another 20 and so on.. Small steps..................

 

Okay....

 

Becky... I'll check in after I get hubby off to work at 4 this afternoon.. He's starts nights tonight... So, can't wait to see what's going on with You..

So glad the Dr wanted to see you...

Hang In There....................................

 

Prof...  Time to open the door and at least peek out...........

 

Everyone...  Hope today is being kind...

 

Love Dianah

 

 

 

 

hey -- i peeked out before i read this!  you've lost 6 pounds since saturday?  whoa, nelly!  six pounds over any period of time is good.  good luck -- and please avoid any explosive situations...

 

i am sorry about your knee, but glad you're getting it checked out.  and in my post, i blither-blathered about crps having a warm look and a cold look -- then read about your ice stage.  i wonder if all case of nerve damage are like that?

 

i gotta log off -- i feel a nap coming.

 

be well, darn it!

 

love,

prof

 
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