Topic : About Inmigrants

This makes sense now.

 

Her husband had no legal status in the US.  It sounds like he was going for his LPR status (green card), that is extremely different then citizenship.

 

When you say citizenship, you are implying that he is already legally in the US, which means it would be very very hard for ICE to deport him because he is already legal. 

 

My guess also, is that he already had an NTA out on him, meaning that he was picked up by Border Patrol and he never went to court.  It is kind of like a warrant.

 

It is all coming together now.

 

Do you also know how many times I have had an attorney that didnt know what their client has done and it is only until I mention something that they are like, uh, you dont say.

 

There are more to stories that what meets the eye.  Newspapers dont report anything correctly, it is actually sad that is what people are getting their news from.

I'm so sick of illegals complaining they got caught after breaking the law. They became a felon when they came to this country illegally. I don't think children born here, who are products of illegal imigrants should be citizens of this country. They and their children are a drain on our economy. My child cannot get a decent education because so much time is spent on the children of these illegals, because they can't speak english.

 

 

Immigration is not only a problem of limited resources, but with a shift of political power.  I have no problem with people wanting to be citizens of the United States, as long as they go through the LEGAL channels to do it.  It's easier to just fill out the stinking paperwork rather than work and hide in the shadows.  They're only cutting themselves off at the knees by foregoing their responsibility.  Why should they get free services when I have to work for what I have, how is that fair? 

 

You know why liberals and some conservatives offer amnesty as a solution?  They want to stay in power, and Hispanic is the largest minority group- so they get their children, legal citizens to vote for them to keep mom and pop in America.  These anchor babies are the key to our undoing- they're already used to socialism, and let's face it, America is on it's way. 

 

They are most definitely breaking the law, something people seem to gloss over or forget altogether, which is WHY this is a political issue.  Mexican officials are so corrupt in their oligarchy that they don't have the motivation to build their own economy, so some peacetalk tea party isn't going to resolve it.  It's gotten so bad, the only way to keep them out is to deport them with shock-collars and set up an electric fence, although those people will still find a way back in.

 

It's so bad that my brother's high school Spanish teacher actually SAID, "The spanish-speaking kids in the class do better in the Spanish class than do children who don' t speak it at home".  Well DUH!  Hello!  Of course they do because your fat butt is talking to THEM all period about the latest soap opera on Univision!  She's so busy talking to her "pets", why bother TEACHING?  It's not like that's her JOB! 

 

The National Association of Hispanic Journalists (NAHJ) has  determined that the term "illegal aliens" is not politically correct, lest we should criminalize criminals.  They're here ILLEGALLY.  That's the problem I have with it, if they learned English, took the civics test, and filled out the paperwork, I'd say "Welcome". 

But these people are lazy, they don't want to learn English and are a threat to national security with open borders. 

 

I was blogging on another site, with this woman who owns her own shop in the Southwest.  She said a Hispanic woman came in, looked at her products and started speaking Spanish.  The woman replied that she didn't speak Spanish, the Hispanic woman left and came back with a little boy who was able to  speak broken English.  He asked her, "Why you no speak Spanish?".  She replied simply, "I don't have to", and quite rightly.  We didn't ask for this country to become Mexico.  If we were to immigrate to Mexico, we'd have to learn Spanish, not turn it into the U.S.  If we immigrated to Brazil, we'd have to learn Portuguese, not turn Brazil into the United States.

 

 

There are too many perks to being an ILLEGAL (I'm going to say it, I don't care).  You don't have to pay taxes, you get free medical care, don't have to learn the language, run around breaking laws with hardly anyway to keep track of where they are.  They're not even paying taxes!  They're not contributing to the country, they're draining our resources and don't seem to care about assimilating to OUR culture.  If they're here illegally, they should be deported, none of this amnesty crap, and you know what, if they're scarred emotionally, they should have thought of that before they came here.  If you go thru legal channels, ONLY then do you have a RIGHT to be an American.

I came here by marriage legally to an Indian born American citizen. I was subject to domestic violence-mental and physical, by the exhusband and his family soon after arrival and thrown out of the home. The exhusband and his family tried to have me deported as it was a short lived marriage and so could be fraudulent and that too because my mother and I were both physicians and were in fact trying to make monies by being in the USA and further our career. INS believed them, did no verification of the circumstances or spent no money in investigation on their own, subject me to deportation proceedings for five years where I had to relive through every detail of the horrendous marriage again and again, repeatedly, after the divorce was finalized. This was until we went through an immigration attorney to have it go through the Department of Justice from the Department of State. They then threw a few documents that the exhusbands family had given them to prepare our defense right at the very end. It went upto the point of trial which never happened because the US Goverment attorney now believed we had "real" documents to show proof of marriage-there were box loads of every imaginable thing that happened in the short time of marriage. And this because INS has a ruling that it need not rely on the divorce petition and its contents for their decision to grant immigration status in this country. Unless these things go through the court system, and to the Department of Justice from the Department of State, the INS will keep doing whatever it is doing bureaucratically and without mercy and by abuse of power. As a result of this, I am now being treated for severe clinical depression and severe PTSD for more than five years now as I had been retraumatized repeatedly due to their inquisition. We have probably gone past the statute of limitations as well. My medical career had been put in abeyance and was shot as a result of this. By the time we tried to reunify our family after I obtained 'LEGAL' immigration, between my father who was in India all this time, and my mother who was with me to support me, my father died within a few years. My father was simultaneously subject to a lawsuit while he was in India by the exhusband and his family through their relatives in India which took many many years to make nought. The relief after so many years of mental onslaught by INS  in sync with the exhusband and his family is still something that we are still recovering from with intense therapy and counseling.  I had to discontinue my career to take care of this because it literally drove me insane and well over the edge. So much for their family reunification policy and now of course is the perspective on illegal immigration. Who's watching?

So I have a couple of questions?

 

my mother and I were both physicians and were in fact trying to make monies by being in the USA and further our career

 

So you are a doctor and working in the US as a doctor?  If that is the case then your hospital could petition for you.  Also, how was your mother here?  LPR, Citizen, overstay, just came for the heck of it?

 

INS believed them, did no verification of the circumstances or spent no money in investigation on their own

 

What evidence did you have that you were abused?  I am not saying that you werent, but when we looked into cases that one of the spouses claimed abuse, they showed evidence, such as police reports, restraining orders, going to a domestic abuse place, doctors reports etc.  Also, it is not up to Immigration to show abuse, it is up to the person that claims it.

 

the INS will keep doing whatever it is doing bureaucratically and without mercy and by abuse of power.

 

One it hasnt been called INS in about 6 years, FYI.  Please explain how immigration was abusing their power, because you were ordered deported and they were following through?  I dont understand.

 

So much for their family reunification policy and now of course is the perspective on illegal immigration.

 

It is odd why people dont see to understand laws anymore.  I am assuming that when you talk about illegal immigration you believe that it is wrong to deport someone that illegal came into the country (that could actually be called a terrorist) or just never decided to leave.

 

I am all for families be able to be together again, but that doesnt mean, cousins, aunts, uncles, nieces etc.  That means children and parents. 

 

You state that you are a doctor, so you should actually know how to read and understand what breaking the law means.

 

The problem is two fold- we have an unfairness on both sides:

 

It's unfair to citizens who came into this country, filled out the paperwork, learned English and worked hard to be here.  They get free medical care and don't have to pay taxes- I do have to do those things by an accident of birth.  Why are they so special?  There's a sense of a loss of personal accountability (personal accountability=freedom) with this, which hurts illegals and creates a sense of entitlement or victimhood.  This is how the government would be able to control them and keep them poor.

 

I hate the cop-out that "they'll do the work no one else wants to do".  So is it okay to create a "slave" class?  People with no way to create a better situation for themselves?  At least with citizenship, they can own their own businesses, go to work for a company, or become their own bosses, the spirit of Capitalism in America.   To me, they're settling for a status of  glorified indentured servitude by selling out to government paternalism when they could take responsibility for their situation and create freedom and wealth for themselves.  Real freedom, power and wealth is not government controlled, but generated by individual accountability and aspirations.

Who are you?  Do you know every illegal here or do you just put everyone in the one hat & call them all the same?  I am married to an American.  He works.  We file taxes jointly.  I have a TIN - tax identification number.  I have three beautiful children.  Do you think it is my choice not to work or pay my way or worry about how I am going to pay for their doctor or even drive them if I have to?  So do you know anything?

 

In all honesty what are the perks?  I don't know any!!!!!  I am not allowed to drive my kids to the park because my lisence is expired & I am not able to get another one.  I am not allowed to get an apartment because credit wise I am not here.  I want health insurance,  I want dental insurance - I have a wisdom tooth rotting out of my head and I can't get it removed because I don't have insurance.  Do you think this is how I want to live?

 

"If you go through legal channels, ONLY then do you have the RIGHT to be an American". 

 

 I do not want to be an American - I am happy being who I am.  I have tried to go through legal channels but who has thousands of dollars lying around?  We don't as a family with only one income because that is all we are allowed to have!!!!!  Even though we are only one income family we do survive.  We survive because I as their mother want to give my kids what they deserve.  To do this I clip coupons & I buy things on sale.  I don't receive food stamps or welfare.  I don't want to be a burden on your state & I don't believe I am & if you believe I am then this is the fault of the law makers & not the illegal immigrant who is trying to be a wife & mother & give her kids what they deserve - not because they are Americans, because they are mine.

First of all this is going to be very long because I have alot to say.  Both my parents are from Mexico and when my dad was young he was here with out papers. I and my brother were born in California. My dad did end up getting his paper and yes it did take a while but you know what when my family crossed over they crossed over to WORK let me say that again THEY CROSSED OVER TO WORK! and they did, my father busted his ass off working very hard jobs for less then then everybody else was making at that time he had 2 jobs and money was tight. But he had a plan a dream to be in this country for all that it gives. We were not on governmant help, we didnt not get food stamps or anything else like tha. Now my father ownes his owns his own bussiness and he make more then decent money and most of my anuts and uncles own their own bussiness here in the states. And are now very wealthy. I have read about how the US should take all the immigrants and make them go back to their own country. Not all immigrants are here to make trouble most are here looking to succed in life and what is wrong with that?  American was tons of people in jail white, black  all different races from America you actually think that those people have more of a right to be here then family who risk their lives to cross over? There are kilers and drugs dealers and drug users and do you think they have more of a right to be here then those families who have done all that they can to cross over here?
Do you not remember History class in high school, in college? The Indians were here first... and that eastern people came here and inslaved them this was their land. And history has said that Spaniards came to American and had children with the Native Americans (Indians) these children this new breed of people were called Mestios....Mexicans. Meaning what ?.....meaning that this land America is more our land! In our veins runs blood from the Indians ands we all know the truth this land was their before ours and since this is the Indians land this is our land aswell because we where born form them...Now tell people where are your roots from? From is country, this land or from some eastern country?
 You say immigrants dont pay taxes actually they do they pay taxes everyday when buying food buying gas paying bills and then at the end of the year they dont get it back in a income tax check like most Americans do. They pay those taxs and never see that money agian un like you and I. most immigrants dont go get food stamps or medicade because they're scared they will be put in jail and sent back. so dont give me that BS about how they come and live off our government cuz they dont take all those white crack head and black people off welfare and food stamps and housing make them get a job!
I am proud to be a Mexican American and so is my husband who proudl;y serves in the US NAVY. We know how hard it was for our family to come here and make it . We're proud of were we are but we never forget who we are. MEXICAN AMERICANS.

A couple of things.

 

I have read about how the US should take all the immigrants and make them go back to their own country.

 

No not immigrants, because that means that they took the proper channels to get here legally.  What you should say is illegals. 

 

Not all immigrants are here to make trouble most are here looking to succed in life and what is wrong with that? 

 

Yes you are correct immigrants are here to succeed in life and they did that by actually doing things legally.  What is so wrong for people do actually follow the law?  It is not really hard to do, yes it takes time, but then most people are extremely selfish and dont want to do things legally, hence they come over illegally.

 

 American was tons of people in jail white, black  all different races from America you actually think that those people have more of a right to be here then family who risk their lives to cross over?

 

Not really sure where you are going with this?  You are aware that there is a difference between someone being a US Citizen (meaning they have no where else to go) and someone that isnt (meaning that if the US deports them they actually have a home to do to)?  Also, it cost US taxpayers 3 million a day to keep illegals in our prison.  You dont think we have something better to do with that money then spend it on people that shouldnt be here to begin with?

 

Do you not remember History class in high school, in college? The Indians were here first... and that eastern people came here and inslaved them this was their land. And history has said that Spaniards came to American and had children with the Native Americans (Indians) these children this new breed of people were called Mestios....Mexicans. Meaning what ?.....meaning that this land America is more our land!

 

I completely enjoy when people try to support something that is against the law by saying this. 

 

Well actually if you want to be correct, Native Americans are found to have crossed over the Bering Straight, so is there such a thing as this is more our land?  I dont think so.  Not to mention that there is proof that Vikings actually found the Americas.

 

Also, there is such a thing called War.  The people that were more powerful took control over the land and won.  It really doesnt matter what happened hundreds of years ago, because it truly is obsolete. 

 

 You say immigrants dont pay taxes actually they do they pay taxes everyday when buying food buying gas paying bills and then at the end of the year they dont get it back in a income tax check like most Americans do.

 

Once again you are correct all immigrants pay taxes because they are here legally.  And you are completely off that all illegals do because I have actually seen with my own two eyes, people that dont.

 

most immigrants dont go get food stamps or medicade because they're scared they will be put in jail and sent back. so dont give me that BS about how they come and live off our government cuz they dont take all those white crack head and black people off welfare and food stamps and housing make them get a job!

 

You are correct most immigrants arent on food stamps etc because they are here legally.  Now for the illegals.  Here is some stats for you.

 

$11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare to illegal aliens each year.

 

$2.2 Billion dollars a year is spent on food assistance programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens.

 

$2.5 Billion dollars a year is spent on Medicaid for illegal aliens.

 

Once again you seem to forget that people that are United States Citizens have the right to those benefits, not people that come here illegally.

 

Do you honestly not understand the difference between legal and illegal?  I dont think you do because you keep using immigrant and illegals are not immigrants, they are illegally present in the United States which is against federal law.

 

I truly am shocked that people find it okay to allow people into the country to stay forever without knowing anything about them.  The US is the only country that allows people born here to be automatic citizens (which I will put money on that will change).

 

It is amazing that people dont see what the 20 + million ILLEGALS are doing to the US.  People that come here illegal arent the creme of the crop.  They are the peasants of their country, the poor, etc.  Sorry we dont need that here.  We already have poor that we need and should take care of.  We shouldnt take care of some other countries poor.

Please dont come back and say that they do jobs that no one in the US will do, which has been found to be complete BS. 

 

Also, if you are so proud to be a Mexican, which is great, why dont you go back and actually try to fix the country?  Instead of saying that it is okay for illegals to come into another country.  Which if you think about it, if I went to Mexico and crossed the border illegally, I would either be shot or deported on spot. 

 

People need to fix their own countries.