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Created on : Friday, August 03, 2007, 08:40:05 pm
Author : karemf28

Hi, my name is Karem and I am a Peruvian Inmigrant, my husband is also peruvian, we live here for 5 years. We have a little 9 month old boy. Well I was thinking so much about people that live in this country, the inmigrants, but the ones that live under the shadow of ilegals. They also have kids. The other day on TV there was a show on a spansh channel about the people that are being deported and that have kids born americans. Hoe the kids are going through so much stress thinking that their parents can be deported in any minute. I was terrified thinking all that anger and stress that these kids live daily, how this is afecting them, what can cause this anger in themselves when they grow up... Will they carry so much anger against people that they can harm society????

 

My father was a doctor, he won many years ago a contest to work and do some research in the University of Denver Colorado, we moved from Peru to Denver when I was 6, my father worked there sor 3 years, then he decided that he did not want to raise us in the United States because in my school I was a victim of racist ataques by a boy from my class room. Still I grew up and decided to come back and live here. But the problem is that I worry that later on all this inmigration problems are afecting the kids that later on will be tha adults in this society.

 

I just wanted to know what you think about this, how all this issue will afect emotionally and sicologically to this sons and daughters of people that will be deported to their countries.

 

Karem



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December 20, 2007, 2:03 pm PST

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I have a very different oppinion than most people on this subject.This subject effects me personally,im happily married to a illegal  immigrant.I believe that this is all racism plain and simple.My Husband has tried time and time again for a visa and been rejected without a reason why.This is not right, he has no criminal record, he OWNS LAND HERE in the USA and in Mexico, has paided and filed taxes since hes been here. So far we have spent over $22,000 trying to get him leagal.That is a crime to take someones money like that and use it on education,roads,and etc.. then tell them you have no right to be here.But when the USA needs help who do we ask first? Who came here to help with the rebuilding of New Orleans? Who came to our side to fight the California wild fires? MEXICANS FROM MEXICO !! I know  a lot of illegal Mexicans here. Some are the best people , some are trouble makers and i have personally seen alot of them be approved?. But those here with wifes and children who are citizens, no criminal record,and paying & filing taxes should have the right to stay over those here with no family ,with DUI , criminal records,not filing taxes,just looking to make a quick buck and go back to Mexico. If we send back all illegals their yearly tax money goes with them. We will have to pay higher taxes to make up for all that extra tax money. Every Illegal i know has taxes took out of each check but most dont file taxes so thats alot of extra money.
 I think we should be more concerned about China right now targeting our children with lead! They are going to WIPE US OUT and we are to worried about illegal immigrants to stop them.
We need to stop the racism and hating that we are teaching our young generation or.... Jena 6 and nooses ..... need i say more .     God help us!                 WE ARE ALL GODS CHILDREN  !!!!!!!

The reason your husband can not get papers is because he came into this country illegally or he is an EWI (entered with inspection).  Plain and simple.

 

The only way he is ever going to be legal is if he leaves the country and applies in Mexico or they do another amnesty, which is doubtful because last time we were looking at only about 4 million illegals and now it is close to 10-15.  He didnt entered the country that is why he is being denied.  If I was him I would actually leave because if he has been here long enough he will have a bar against him forever.

 

I am sure your husband is a nice person, that doesnt mean he has the right to be in this country.  There are ways to get here legally but no one wants to go the long way.  They want to sneak in and go to the front of the line.

 

It is also rather odd that you mention the money that people from Mexico make actually stay in the US.  How do you think Mexico survives, by money being made in the US going over there. 

 

All of the illegals that you know are you sure that their SS# is valid?  I can not tell you how many cards I have seen that are actually from other people.  Are you aware that most illegals steal others SS# and screw the person that actually had it?  I find it funny that you actually believe that illegals pay taxes, most dont for your information.

 

Why dont you look at the prisons in California about 75-80% are filled with illegals, which we are paying for.  The city of Portland, Oregon sent a bill to Mexico for a few million dollars because that was the amount it cost the city to have illegals there, hospitals, schools etc.  Why dont you think what the impact of having 20 million people that we dont know anything about.  We have enough problems here that we dont need to start importing them.

 

You are correct we are all God's Children.  Why would one of God's children feel that they have the right to sneak into another country and live there without going through all of the proper channels. 

 

Immigration is wonderful but too bad people are so selfish that they dont do it legally.

 
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December 20, 2007, 2:09 pm PST

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My best friend's husband was deported a week before his papers were to be approved. He was in his car outside of a club listening to music while he waited for someone to pick him up because he had been drinking. Well a cop comes up to him and arrest him for a DUI when he was not even driving. My friend was going to divorce him anyway but he still has a child here that needs her father. It is racism. The government has waited too long to try to take care of the problem and now there are too many here so the government is trying to get rid of them all without even treating them like human beings.

 

About the lead thing. Most of the companies that were using lead paint were owned by Americans who are too cheap to use better paint. Another thing is that the lead in the paint is over the limit that is allowed but ist still pretty harmless unless you consume large amounts of it.

 

i think the border patrol is getting stricter mainly because there are Muslim extremist sneaking in through Mexico. I think we should be more concerned with screening Arabs and getting rid of the illegal Arabs and other illegals. We should not just get rid of the Mexicans.

There is more to the story then your friend is telling you.  Immigration can not and will not deport someone without a criminal history, sorry that is how it is.  They wont deport you with a DUI because honestly a lot have them and yet they are still in the country.

 

How is being deported from a country that you arent suppose to be in the first place treating you less then human?!?!?! 

 

i think the border patrol is getting stricter mainly because there are Muslim extremist sneaking in through Mexico. I think we should be more concerned with screening Arabs and getting rid of the illegal Arabs and other illegals. We should not just get rid of the Mexicans.

 

Wow can you be more racist there?  That is the problem with extreminst they come from all walks of life.  I dont know about you but I would like the government to know who is coming into the US. 

 

FYI, I had a man once get deported back to Mexico and sneak back into the US.  You know what he did.  He was in prison for a number of years for 1st degree murder.  Not only did tax payers pay for him to be in prison, have him deported and then he comes back in.  Ah yes, there are no problems with illegals.

 
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December 29, 2007, 11:55 am PST

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There is more to the story then your friend is telling you.  Immigration can not and will not deport someone without a criminal history, sorry that is how it is.  They wont deport you with a DUI because honestly a lot have them and yet they are still in the country.

 

How is being deported from a country that you arent suppose to be in the first place treating you less then human?!?!?! 

 

i think the border patrol is getting stricter mainly because there are Muslim extremist sneaking in through Mexico. I think we should be more concerned with screening Arabs and getting rid of the illegal Arabs and other illegals. We should not just get rid of the Mexicans.

 

Wow can you be more racist there?  That is the problem with extreminst they come from all walks of life.  I dont know about you but I would like the government to know who is coming into the US. 

 

FYI, I had a man once get deported back to Mexico and sneak back into the US.  You know what he did.  He was in prison for a number of years for 1st degree murder.  Not only did tax payers pay for him to be in prison, have him deported and then he comes back in.  Ah yes, there are no problems with illegals.

Immigration can not and will not deport someone without a criminal history, sorry that is how it is.  They wont deport you with a DUI because honestly a lot have them and yet they are still in the country.

 

A DUI is crime and they can, will, and have deported people who only have a DUI. They are looking for any reason possible to get rid of them. I have known legal citizens get deported because the police stole their identification.

 

How is being deported from a country that you arent suppose to be in the first place treating you less then human?!?!?! 

I beleive that the illegals should be deported. What I do not beleive in is how they are being treated by the police and governement. They are having their chilkdren taken away from them and put in state custody. They are not allowed to talk to anyone while they are in jail waiting to be deported. They do not get their one phone call. It has been heard that some of them get beat in the jail.

 

About the terrorist that sneak into this country, yes some of them have sneaked in through Mexico. I do not beleive that what I had said was a racist statement. We are in a war against terror aren't we? I am in no way saying that all Arabs are bad. I know that there are good peaceful ones but I also know that there are bad ones who wish to kill and destroy. How are we to tell the difference?

 

 
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January 1, 2008, 7:49 pm PST

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The real problems of these so-called immigrants is described in detail by James Gilchrist in a book titled MInutemen. He calls them what they are: Invaders. They are here to take over America. I have heard thse aliens say so myself.

We now have approximately 30 million here instead of the quoted 12 million and they are bankrupting every state of the union in criminal costs, welfare and health care benefits.

Teachers at the schools and universities in the SW are teaching them that we took Mexico from the natives. They forget the Louisianna Purchase and other items.

Their gangs kill babies as well as adults. Too bad that babies born here must go back to the parent's native country, but their suffering, if they do indeed suffer, is due to their parents, not the USA.

We must think of America first. Read Minutemen and shake in your shoes.
 
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Immigration can not and will not deport someone without a criminal history, sorry that is how it is.  They wont deport you with a DUI because honestly a lot have them and yet they are still in the country.

 

A DUI is crime and they can, will, and have deported people who only have a DUI. They are looking for any reason possible to get rid of them. I have known legal citizens get deported because the police stole their identification.

 

How is being deported from a country that you arent suppose to be in the first place treating you less then human?!?!?! 

I beleive that the illegals should be deported. What I do not beleive in is how they are being treated by the police and governement. They are having their chilkdren taken away from them and put in state custody. They are not allowed to talk to anyone while they are in jail waiting to be deported. They do not get their one phone call. It has been heard that some of them get beat in the jail.

 

About the terrorist that sneak into this country, yes some of them have sneaked in through Mexico. I do not beleive that what I had said was a racist statement. We are in a war against terror aren't we? I am in no way saying that all Arabs are bad. I know that there are good peaceful ones but I also know that there are bad ones who wish to kill and destroy. How are we to tell the difference?

 

A DUI is crime and they can, will, and have deported people who only have a DUI. They are looking for any reason possible to get rid of them. I have known legal citizens get deported because the police stole their identification.

 

Sorry someone is not going to get deported for a DUI.  Why do you ask because it is NOT a deportable offense.  How do I know this, how do you think I know this because I have dealt with this before.  I have seen people that have numerous DUIs and they will not be deported.  They may have some issues with becoming a citizen, but that is not what you are talking about.

 

Really the police stole their ID and they were deported?  If that is the case those people are going to have a hell of a law suit against the US government.

 

I believe that the illegals should be deported. What I do not believe in is how they are being treated by the police and government. They are having their children taken away from them and put in state custody. They are not allowed to talk to anyone while they are in jail waiting to be deported. They do not get their one phone call. It has been heard that some of them get beat in the jail.

 

So you know first hand and have actually seen this?  Because when I see people come in and they are not a criminal they will be given an NTA (Notice to Appear) and they are told they have to appear in court in such and such a day.  That is pretty much the last time we will see them.

 

Also, yes they have ever right to talk to lawyers etc.  I am really not sure where you are getting your information from but it is truly incorrect.

 

About the terrorist that sneak into this country, yes some of them have sneaked in through Mexico. I do not believe that what I had said was a racist statement. We are in a war against terror aren't we? I am in no way saying that all Arabs are bad. I know that there are good peaceful ones but I also know that there are bad ones who wish to kill and destroy. How are we to tell the difference?

 

Did you know that one of the people that was in 9/11 went across the Mexico border illegally and obtain false documents?

 

At least  you are aware that we are in a war against terror.  Yet it is very confusing when you know this yet you have no problem with close to 20 million people being in the US illegally.  Intersting and very scary.

 
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A DUI is crime and they can, will, and have deported people who only have a DUI. They are looking for any reason possible to get rid of them. I have known legal citizens get deported because the police stole their identification.

 

Sorry someone is not going to get deported for a DUI.  Why do you ask because it is NOT a deportable offense.  How do I know this, how do you think I know this because I have dealt with this before.  I have seen people that have numerous DUIs and they will not be deported.  They may have some issues with becoming a citizen, but that is not what you are talking about.

 

Really the police stole their ID and they were deported?  If that is the case those people are going to have a hell of a law suit against the US government.

 

I believe that the illegals should be deported. What I do not believe in is how they are being treated by the police and government. They are having their children taken away from them and put in state custody. They are not allowed to talk to anyone while they are in jail waiting to be deported. They do not get their one phone call. It has been heard that some of them get beat in the jail.

 

So you know first hand and have actually seen this?  Because when I see people come in and they are not a criminal they will be given an NTA (Notice to Appear) and they are told they have to appear in court in such and such a day.  That is pretty much the last time we will see them.

 

Also, yes they have ever right to talk to lawyers etc.  I am really not sure where you are getting your information from but it is truly incorrect.

 

About the terrorist that sneak into this country, yes some of them have sneaked in through Mexico. I do not believe that what I had said was a racist statement. We are in a war against terror aren't we? I am in no way saying that all Arabs are bad. I know that there are good peaceful ones but I also know that there are bad ones who wish to kill and destroy. How are we to tell the difference?

 

Did you know that one of the people that was in 9/11 went across the Mexico border illegally and obtain false documents?

 

At least  you are aware that we are in a war against terror.  Yet it is very confusing when you know this yet you have no problem with close to 20 million people being in the US illegally.  Intersting and very scary.

Sorry someone is not going to get deported for a DUI.  Why do you ask because it is NOT a deportable offense.  How do I know this, how do you think I know this because I have dealt with this before.  I have seen people that have numerous DUIs and they will not be deported.  They may have some issues with becoming a citizen, but that is not what you are talking about.

 

Yes it happened to my best friend's husband. She told me everything that happened in detail. He was in his truck outside of a club listening to music waiting for his ride to pick him up because he had been drinking and did not want to drive. A police officer came up to him saw that he had been drinking and charged him with a DUI. He had to appear in court but nothing could be done to help him even the fact that his wife and daughter were US citizens. He was sent back to Mexico and we thought he would be able to come back in a year to refile for citizenship but now his lawer is saying that he needs counseling and something else can't quite remember to be able to come back. His record was clean the only thing he had was that one DUI. You need to get your facts strait because this happened. There was nothing else on his record.

 

Me and my friend that have heard of others that have bene treated much worse. Every illegal they catch is deported wether or not they have a record. Yes the police in Tulsa are stealing id's to arrest hispanics. One friend of mine was a legal citizen and she was deported because the police stole her id and she had no proof of that she was who she said she was.

 

Yet it is very confusing when you know this yet you have no problem with close to 20 million people being in the US illegally.  Intersting and very scary.

How did you come to that conclusion? I have said more than once that I believe that all the illegals should be deported. They have no right being here if they are illegal. I do however beleive that they should be treated like human beings and not animals.

 

 
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The real problems of these so-called immigrants is described in detail by James Gilchrist in a book titled MInutemen. He calls them what they are: Invaders. They are here to take over America. I have heard thse aliens say so myself.

We now have approximately 30 million here instead of the quoted 12 million and they are bankrupting every state of the union in criminal costs, welfare and health care benefits.

Teachers at the schools and universities in the SW are teaching them that we took Mexico from the natives. They forget the Louisianna Purchase and other items.

Their gangs kill babies as well as adults. Too bad that babies born here must go back to the parent's native country, but their suffering, if they do indeed suffer, is due to their parents, not the USA.

We must think of America first. Read Minutemen and shake in your shoes.

Too bad that babies born here must go back to the parent's native country, but their suffering, if they do indeed suffer, is due to their parents, not the USA.

 

They keep the children here and put them in state custody. They say that they do not deserve their children that are born here. I know a couple of women that were deported and the state took their children and put them in orphanages.


 
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Sorry someone is not going to get deported for a DUI.  Why do you ask because it is NOT a deportable offense.  How do I know this, how do you think I know this because I have dealt with this before.  I have seen people that have numerous DUIs and they will not be deported.  They may have some issues with becoming a citizen, but that is not what you are talking about.

 

Yes it happened to my best friend's husband. She told me everything that happened in detail. He was in his truck outside of a club listening to music waiting for his ride to pick him up because he had been drinking and did not want to drive. A police officer came up to him saw that he had been drinking and charged him with a DUI. He had to appear in court but nothing could be done to help him even the fact that his wife and daughter were US citizens. He was sent back to Mexico and we thought he would be able to come back in a year to refile for citizenship but now his lawer is saying that he needs counseling and something else can't quite remember to be able to come back. His record was clean the only thing he had was that one DUI. You need to get your facts strait because this happened. There was nothing else on his record.

 

Me and my friend that have heard of others that have bene treated much worse. Every illegal they catch is deported wether or not they have a record. Yes the police in Tulsa are stealing id's to arrest hispanics. One friend of mine was a legal citizen and she was deported because the police stole her id and she had no proof of that she was who she said she was.

 

Yet it is very confusing when you know this yet you have no problem with close to 20 million people being in the US illegally.  Intersting and very scary.

How did you come to that conclusion? I have said more than once that I believe that all the illegals should be deported. They have no right being here if they are illegal. I do however beleive that they should be treated like human beings and not animals.

 

Yes it happened to my best friend's husband. She told me everything that happened in detail. He was in his truck outside of a club listening to music waiting for his ride to pick him up because he had been drinking and did not want to drive. A police officer came up to him saw that he had been drinking and charged him with a DUI. He had to appear in court but nothing could be done to help him even the fact that his wife and daughter were US citizens. He was sent back to Mexico and we thought he would be able to come back in a year to refile for citizenship but now his lawer is saying that he needs counseling and something else can't quite remember to be able to come back. His record was clean the only thing he had was that one DUI. You need to get your facts strait because this happened. There was nothing else on his record.

 

Sorry your friend didnt tell you the entire story.  You need to get your facts straight.  Why dont you walk into your local immigration office and have a chat with an ICE agent and they will even tell you that a person that is illegal can walk into the office and nothing will happen to them if they DO NOT have a felony.  Obviously there was more to the story then your friend stated or your friends husband was not disclosing his past.

 

Every illegal they catch is deported wether or not they have a record.

 

If you are talking about catching people cross the border then yes you are correct they will process them and send them back.  Not really rocket science here. 

 

One friend of mine was a legal citizen and she was deported because the police stole her id and she had no proof of that she was who she said she was.

 

Really she had no proof that she was a Citizen?  Odd, seeing that I have numerous ways to show I am one.  If she was naturalized here it is very simple to show that.  Also, if this is true I am sure she will be suing the government, yet nothing.

 

I do however beleive that they should be treated like human beings and not animals.

 

How do you come to that conclusion?  Have you ever been to a deportation facility?  Have you ever seen someone go through the NTA process?  So your views on what other people have told you, right? 

 

You also have stated that illegals should be deported, but not your friend because he is married to a USC?  Why should he be excluded he broke the law.  Also, no one is stopping the wife and child to move down to Mexico.

 
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Yes it happened to my best friend's husband. She told me everything that happened in detail. He was in his truck outside of a club listening to music waiting for his ride to pick him up because he had been drinking and did not want to drive. A police officer came up to him saw that he had been drinking and charged him with a DUI. He had to appear in court but nothing could be done to help him even the fact that his wife and daughter were US citizens. He was sent back to Mexico and we thought he would be able to come back in a year to refile for citizenship but now his lawer is saying that he needs counseling and something else can't quite remember to be able to come back. His record was clean the only thing he had was that one DUI. You need to get your facts strait because this happened. There was nothing else on his record.

 

Sorry your friend didnt tell you the entire story.  You need to get your facts straight.  Why dont you walk into your local immigration office and have a chat with an ICE agent and they will even tell you that a person that is illegal can walk into the office and nothing will happen to them if they DO NOT have a felony.  Obviously there was more to the story then your friend stated or your friends husband was not disclosing his past.

 

Every illegal they catch is deported wether or not they have a record.

 

If you are talking about catching people cross the border then yes you are correct they will process them and send them back.  Not really rocket science here. 

 

One friend of mine was a legal citizen and she was deported because the police stole her id and she had no proof of that she was who she said she was.

 

Really she had no proof that she was a Citizen?  Odd, seeing that I have numerous ways to show I am one.  If she was naturalized here it is very simple to show that.  Also, if this is true I am sure she will be suing the government, yet nothing.

 

I do however beleive that they should be treated like human beings and not animals.

 

How do you come to that conclusion?  Have you ever been to a deportation facility?  Have you ever seen someone go through the NTA process?  So your views on what other people have told you, right? 

 

You also have stated that illegals should be deported, but not your friend because he is married to a USC?  Why should he be excluded he broke the law.  Also, no one is stopping the wife and child to move down to Mexico.

Sorry my best friend is not a liar. You just do not know what is really going and how these people are being treated.

 

Honestly no I do not think my friend's husband should have been deported.

 

1. When you marry a US citizen then that should enable the person top also become a citizen as long as it is not a scam.

 

2. He went there with a work visa and he did reapply before it expired and he paid for to be renewed the paperwork was tossed aside and they just his visa expire. He was in the process of getting citizenship and his lawer had told them it would be another week or two longer before he got his papers then he gets this bogus DUI and gets deported.

 

If a person is not legal they can and will deport them period. No matter what. If they are illegal then that is a crime enough to get them deported. You are the one that does not know that facts and what is going on right now.

 

When I said the people are being treated like animals most of them ar enot allowed to come in contact with anyone they have their children and all of their belongings taken away. How is it right to take away someones child?

 

Get your facts before calling people liars.

 
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Yes it happened to my best friend's husband. She told me everything that happened in detail. He was in his truck outside of a club listening to music waiting for his ride to pick him up because he had been drinking and did not want to drive. A police officer came up to him saw that he had been drinking and charged him with a DUI. He had to appear in court but nothing could be done to help him even the fact that his wife and daughter were US citizens. He was sent back to Mexico and we thought he would be able to come back in a year to refile for citizenship but now his lawer is saying that he needs counseling and something else can't quite remember to be able to come back. His record was clean the only thing he had was that one DUI. You need to get your facts strait because this happened. There was nothing else on his record.

 

Sorry your friend didnt tell you the entire story.  You need to get your facts straight.  Why dont you walk into your local immigration office and have a chat with an ICE agent and they will even tell you that a person that is illegal can walk into the office and nothing will happen to them if they DO NOT have a felony.  Obviously there was more to the story then your friend stated or your friends husband was not disclosing his past.

 

Every illegal they catch is deported wether or not they have a record.

 

If you are talking about catching people cross the border then yes you are correct they will process them and send them back.  Not really rocket science here. 

 

One friend of mine was a legal citizen and she was deported because the police stole her id and she had no proof of that she was who she said she was.

 

Really she had no proof that she was a Citizen?  Odd, seeing that I have numerous ways to show I am one.  If she was naturalized here it is very simple to show that.  Also, if this is true I am sure she will be suing the government, yet nothing.

 

I do however beleive that they should be treated like human beings and not animals.

 

How do you come to that conclusion?  Have you ever been to a deportation facility?  Have you ever seen someone go through the NTA process?  So your views on what other people have told you, right? 

 

You also have stated that illegals should be deported, but not your friend because he is married to a USC?  Why should he be excluded he broke the law.  Also, no one is stopping the wife and child to move down to Mexico.

Your from Washington that is why you do not have a clue what is going on in the places that have a high consentration of hispanics.
 

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