Topic : Giving and Receiving Support

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May 3, 2006, 9:38 am PDT

Hi

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Hi all....not quite sure what i am doing with this but, here goes....  I have been with my hubby 6 years and married for 2 1/2.  He is great in almost every aspect.  He would do anything for me and in most cases is understanding....but.....10 years ago i was raped while in the military, and had gotten pregnant from it.  i chose adoption over abortion and tried to move on....My hubby is very good about how neurotic i can be in most cases, but....i recently (for the first time) started attending counseling.  I still have nightmares regularly (which lead to the counseling) and at 3 am when i wake up from one....his response is to wake up, hug me, ask if i am okay and within 60 seconds (or less) fall right back to sleep.  Now i know men are not as emotional about things, but....(and he is a great hubby in all other instances)  am i wrong in wondering if he should be more supportitive in cases of my nightmares and wanting to talk?  or am i simply wanting more than he as a male is capable of giving??  We rarely fight, he would do anything i ask of him, ....he just .....at 3 am when i need to talk....will fall right back to sleep within seconds of asking if i am okay , like it is ingrained for him to ask, but not to stay awake for the answer....am i being too neurotic and asking more than he as a male is  capable of giving?  i need advice here and the counselor i see for the nightmares, isnt answering my questions beyond "uh huh and how do you feel about that"....thanks all

Maybe you should ask him before you both go to bed. He may think thats all you need. Men want to be told what is needed from them. They are not good at guessing our expectations. That is what I have learned from my husband.   

   

Glad to hear your in counseling and I hope your night mares start to go away. You should be very proud of yourself, it takes a very courages person to go thru with pregnancy and give someone a gift. I'm not sure I could of. I'd like to think so but..............  

 
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May 3, 2006, 9:40 am PDT

No, I'm sorry I haven't

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Hi my name is Adel  

I just want to know if somebody ever heard about hypocondria?  

Thank you  

You could look it up on the web. I'm sure it would be there.  

 
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May 3, 2006, 10:02 am PDT

What do I do??

My bf Tyler and I are having problems right now, his dad who he lives with (he is 19 by the way) and him have a bad relationship. His dad was out of his life for the last 14-15 yrs of his life and now he lives with his dad and he just fights and fights with him, and it's his dad staring most of the fights with sarcasm and treats to puch him or kick him out on the streets... His dad is telling him I am a physico Bitch and that I wont take him to the top (his dad is all about power and money)... And Tyler has been having a problem for the last few months, with using me as his punching bag and getting emotionally and physically abusive. I know, don't tell me I should get away from him, it's not like that, just read this part and you'll see what's going on and then I need some help to figure out how to help him out of this...

Ok, so I woke this morning in tears, so I decide to call my voice mail and listen to all the old saved messages of Tyler, my snuggles, and it hit me even more that, I know why I am with him and I know him better than his dad even right now... He needs me because I am the only person at the moment who understands what's going on with him with all the abuse and his load of stress... I know him, who he really is is a true sweetheart who is struggling badly with this stress and anger built inside of him and this anger I believe it's all coming from the fact that his dad has really never been there for him and still isnt and him mom lives in Arizona and was always close to her but now has screwed up so much that that closeness is gone... Also he has no friends or he does, my friends are his friends, but all the other friends he had he lost because of what he is doing... (I'm not the only person he is using as a punching bag for all his anger and stress, but the one person who he has done it to the most and the only person the understands)... Is there anyone out there that could tell me what the hell to do with this, really?? I can't just sit back and let his dad do this to him and make it all worse and then see this anger and stress get really worse, he needs to get away from his dad and he needs to calm down and listen to nobody but his heart, GOD and me since I understand and will do anything to help... Any suggestions on what else I can do??
 
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May 3, 2006, 12:14 pm PDT

I feel like I am failing my family

I am a 22 yr old mother of two and in a commited relationship of two and a half years. Right now I feel like everytime I think things are going good in my life, something happens and brings me right back down. I can't  seem to keep my relationship at a stable point. It seems like if we're not fighting with eachother we are not talking to eachother at all. It has been this way for a while now, and our communication is just not there at all. I try talking to him,but it always ends up in an arguement. What can I do???????? If he and I are fighting I lose all motivation to do anything, with myself or anyone else, such as my kids, or friends. Well I don't even talk to any of my friends anymore so he does'nt ge mad or jealous and it's starting to make me feel like a prisioner in my own home. The only time I go and do anything is with him or with my mom & kids. I have no me time. What should I do?????????????????????????????? SOMEONE HELP! PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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May 3, 2006, 4:33 pm PDT

Broken Heart, the other woman

I am 48 years old.  I was divorced 5 years ago after a 25 year marriage.  I met a man on the internet.  I was safe.  I didnt give him my name or phone number.  We met at a coffee house and then were to go home and email each other if we were interested in dating.  Our first coffee date lasted 3 1/2 hours.  We talked and talked and talked.  I went home and there was a message waiting.  He said his name was Frank, and he very much enjoyed my company and would like to see me again.  I did not tell him, but he had me from hello.  He had the warmest smile and the brightest eyes.  We went out for our first real date the next night.  We were pretty much inseparable from then on.  Well except for weekends.  He told me that he had been divorced 3 years and had young children that he got every weekend.  Should have been the first sign.  For the first month he didnt call real often, and never on weekends.  Then as time went on we got more comfortable with each other.  He traveled a lot with his jobs.  I started going to conferences with him.  He would come to my house and stay.  We just spent a week in Las Vegas.  We did not gamble we just did a little site seeing and mostly just enjoyed each others company.  

  

The last month and half have been like a fairy tale come true.  We talked on the phone for hours on end.  Text messaged each other and emailed.  We were only able to spend 8 days together but he told me he was working out of state to fill in for a ill employee.  We made plans for him to move in with me in June.  We had plans for him to meet my twin sister in two weeks.  He was happy to be accepted by my daughter and eager to meet the rest of my family.  I never once supected that he was lying, hurtfull or a sick human being.   

  

Yesterday I recieved and email from his wife: 

Rhonda, Let me introduce myself. I am Angie. I
am Mike's wife of 23 years. He is not divorced. I know
everything as I have read all of the emails on
ourtime3 site. Mike has snapped, hit rock bottom. He
has had approx. 30 women in the last year. He has
ripped the life out of me and my children. He has not
only cheated many, many times on me but is lying
severely to you. Think about the risk you are taking.
The Rose in the email is his high school friend he has
actively been pursuing while with you.  There are many
others-many one night stands. When Mike said he was on
a trip in March, he was with me at home. I have
nothing else to say. Sincerely, Angie

Angie

He will not answer my calls.  He has canceled his email account.  He is a coward and a user.  I just wish I knew why?  If it all was a lie?  How could I be so naive?  How could something so good be wrong?  Because I finally found true love, or did I?  Was it too good to be true because it is?  That there is no such thing as soul mates?  He fed me all of those lines along with others. 

  

I just don't know where to go for help.  I am angry, depressed and have so much pain.  I don't feel that I can be around famiy and friends because of the humiliation.  Please help 

  

Rhonda 

  

 
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May 4, 2006, 7:01 pm PDT

Oy, can I hang on?

 I am an Orthodox Jewish femme woman married to an Orthodox Jewish transgendered butch. We are retired, both relatively young, but housebound due to a multitude of illness for which we receive SOME care (MS, diabetes, MG, RSD, et al). We have sought doctors and social services, only to be put upon waiting lists or to be told the docotrs weren't taking any new patients EVER. The doctors are moving out of this area at an alarming rate, not to replaced.  If it weren't for J's mother, we wouldn't have any help whatsover, but this is both a blessing AND a curse. She is getting older (77) but would take any HINT that we get outside help to clean the house- as if! We would get such a zetz! Not that we could get social services-we've tried! No-ones' listening! And after today, I'm at my wits' end! I made challah-an all day affair for me! (I have to make it on Thursday now so I can rest for shul on Friday nights.)The cat went nuts at a noise and knocked over J's swordstand-a gift from a student- and broke that AND a trophy of his-J was highly distressed and wants to take the cat to the vet anyway and went frumft physically from MS and MG and my MS and diabetes are giving me problems.   I want to go frumft myselft but also want to take care of him....there's no-one to talk to....no-one returns my calls...no friends in this tiny little town.....i thought it would be easier  

 
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May 4, 2006, 7:19 pm PDT

THANK YOU

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For some reason this old message popped up on my screen the frist time I logged in. I hope if you do not read this response someone who needs to hear it does.   

   

God does not make mistakes. No one chooses to be an outcast from society and the family they wish to give pride. Even those called "gay" are a creation of God. The only "choice" (gay or straight) is to honor God's creation with dignity and honor and love towards another human being or desecrate it with judgement, hate and hypocracy. Those who sit in judgment based on "christianity" have a fluffy hypocritical pillow to soften the fall they will see is not quite as high as the skelatons piled in their own rightous closets.   

   

Those who preach, condemn and judge others, with  "how to"  get the heavenly pass into the blessed kingdom, are usually who we love the most or who we are convinced have the same judgment as God. How arrogant are those who use the bible to judge those who only dare to love.  

   

I am straight but have watched the suffering of those who were born with no choice. I  respect those who have honor and dignity within themselves. You can not change chromosones, you can change who you allow to be toxic while you live. I am certain your life has been filled with enough punishment for who you are. This world never lacks cruelty for those who feel deserving.   

   

I hope you find the respect for yourself that I have for you and the person you were created to be.  

   

 I read your reply and found it very moving. Many try to use the bible (the Tanach or the Christian bible or Islamic Koran)  as a weapon to beat others  into submission to their particular creed or into some suffering they think is deserved b/c the person deviates from their one way. I don't believe G-d has shown any one individual the ONE TRUE WAY (pace Christrians) for all of humanity. I believe that G-d's love is large enough to embrace the way He She / They have made human beings as we are made. There is a Jewish blessing that I say each day-"Blessed art Thou, O Lord, Our G-d, Who created me as I am fashioned."  I believe that could be said for ALL human beings!  

 
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May 4, 2006, 7:26 pm PDT

More than can I hang on.....

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 I am an Orthodox Jewish femme woman married to an Orthodox Jewish transgendered butch. We are retired, both relatively young, but housebound due to a multitude of illness for which we receive SOME care (MS, diabetes, MG, RSD, et al). We have sought doctors and social services, only to be put upon waiting lists or to be told the docotrs weren't taking any new patients EVER. The doctors are moving out of this area at an alarming rate, not to replaced.  If it weren't for J's mother, we wouldn't have any help whatsover, but this is both a blessing AND a curse. She is getting older (77) but would take any HINT that we get outside help to clean the house- as if! We would get such a zetz! Not that we could get social services-we've tried! No-ones' listening! And after today, I'm at my wits' end! I made challah-an all day affair for me! (I have to make it on Thursday now so I can rest for shul on Friday nights.)The cat went nuts at a noise and knocked over J's swordstand-a gift from a student- and broke that AND a trophy of his-J was highly distressed and wants to take the cat to the vet anyway and went frumft physically from MS and MG and my MS and diabetes are giving me problems.   I want to go frumft myselft but also want to take care of him....there's no-one to talk to....no-one returns my calls...no friends in this tiny little town.....i thought it would be easier  

I'm not sure what I will do if I don't get someone to talk to soon this isolation is getting to be more than I can bear. I've NEVER been this isolated before-no rabbi, no friends, the shul is so small...I don't know what to do....I am so very, very tired....
 
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May 4, 2006, 10:41 pm PDT

Giving and Receiving Support

Ok here it goes, (My fiance) Tyler's Step mom really dislikes him. Becuase he has disablitities. His dad is a real jerk. Ok, he isnt breaking up with me, and he does love me. It was his Step mom that did this. His step mom wants him kicked out of the house. So she told his dad to minipulate Tyler into thinking that I am a bad person to be with (that I am a phsyco bitch) so that he would break up with me and get really mad at me. They forced and convienced him to break up with me because I love him and his step mom thinks I'm a sic person to be loving him. She is doing all of this so that she can kick him out with no where or no one to turn to. She minipulated him to break up with me so that he can get mad and so she has a reason to kick him out. And she is also thinking of a restraining order... Bottom line someone needs to tell him (since he wont listen to me because he thinks bad of me now)... How do I know all this?? Becuase I called his house last night and his step mom picked up and told me the whole story... I have no way of getting ahold of him and he doesnt wanna see me. With out saying I told you (cause then he'll think its a lie) someone needs to tell him that his step mom and dad have him wrapped around their fingers and that they are minipulating him to think I am bad for him to get mad and then use that reason to kick him out. So then if someone tells him this, he will call me and make up with me, and I will be able to help him out. He has seizers, short term memory loss and obsessive compulsive disorder... He also has a lot, A LOT, of anger built up inside of him that you can kinda see... His whole family is like this... And I am the only one who can really help him with this, since I understand him more... But now he is mad at me thinking I am a bitch because his dad told him that and said if he doesnt believe him, he is stupid... Tyler is afriad of his dad so of couse he listens to his dad and then starts saying mean things to me that his dad says about me all the time and Tyler has been sucked into this... What can I do??
 
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May 4, 2006, 10:43 pm PDT

my fiance's family is mean to him

Ok here it goes, (My fiance) Tyler's Step mom really dislikes him. Becuase he has disablitities. His dad is a real jerk. Ok, he isnt breaking up with me, and he does love me. It was his Step mom that did this. His step mom wants him kicked out of the house. So she told his dad to minipulate Tyler into thinking that I am a bad person to be with (that I am a phsyco bitch) so that he would break up with me and get really mad at me. They forced and convienced him to break up with me because I love him and his step mom thinks I'm a sic person to be loving him. She is doing all of this so that she can kick him out with no where or no one to turn to. She minipulated him to break up with me so that he can get mad and so she has a reason to kick him out. And she is also thinking of a restraining order... Bottom line someone needs to tell him (since he wont listen to me because he thinks bad of me now)... How do I know all this?? Becuase I called his house last night and his step mom picked up and told me the whole story... I have no way of getting ahold of him and he doesnt wanna see me. With out saying I told you (cause then he'll think its a lie) someone needs to tell him that his step mom and dad have him wrapped around their fingers and that they are minipulating him to think I am bad for him to get mad and then use that reason to kick him out. So then if someone tells him this, he will call me and make up with me, and I will be able to help him out. He has seizers, short term memory loss and obsessive compulsive disorder... He also has a lot, A LOT, of anger built up inside of him that you can kinda see... His whole family is like this... And I am the only one who can really help him with this, since I understand him more... But now he is mad at me thinking I am a bitch because his dad told him that and said if he doesnt believe him, he is stupid... Tyler is afriad of his dad so of couse he listens to his dad and then starts saying mean things to me that his dad says about me all the time and Tyler has been sucked into this... What can I do??
 

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