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What is the best way to support those you love who are coping with depression or grieving a loss? Post your tips and share support with others.

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January 8, 2008, 5:08 am PST

Homeless again, this time want to die....

We are being evicted and we even pay our rent on time every month. This isn't the issure. It's that my husband always has to get involved with lawsuits about something or cause some kind of problem. We are being harassed by the management of the apts we live in because we filed a lawsuit of discrimination against the apts because the trash compactor isn't handicapped accessible. Can you believe this one. We are fighting it but my husband is disabled and a few years ago was arrested for things we thought were dismissed but were ajudicated withheld, now they feel we should be evicted because even though we were approved for rental ten months ago they are saying he wasn't honest on his application. The office staff said go back two years and we are approved. Now because the city is after them they want to throw us out. The stuff won't even show up on the website after july 29th cause they were mistomeaners. This place is in such bad condition and we still pay our rent, now to the courts this month. They filed the eviction so we can't even find another place to live because of that now. They are harassing us and no one can do anything for us. I sure hope the judge sees it our way or I have no way out except one. I don't like what I will have to do but I just can't take it anymore, I have a peptic ulcer now and I am so depressed I want to die. I am in pain all the time and hate my life. What next?
 
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January 9, 2008, 4:35 am PST

Zoloft

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  I feel so lost and angry at the lack of acknowledgement and any support for people who have been grossly mistreated by the mental health system. After being medicated for 'mild' depression with Zoloft in 1996 I inexplicably became suicidal. However, instead of this being recognised for the adverse reaction it was, my doctor doubled the dose and added an antipsychotic followed by a six week admission to a psych ward with weeks of ECT.

  You would think that according to the stories pedalled by pharmaceutical companies ,mental health leaflets and psychiatrists that this 'wonderful and necessary'' intervention would have had me thinking clearly and suddenly happy and functioning again. That was far from the case and would be for another 9 yrs until I weaned myself off all medications and commenced cognitive behavioural therapy I was suddenly cured. The shrinks (five of them) were treating the symptoms produced by the medications. No amount of different medications or ECT was ever going to change it. I was labelled' treatment resistant'. Probably because the treatment was and had always been inappropriate.

  In short I lost a great amount of my long -term memory ( due to ECT) , lost ten years of my life ; lost my child bearing years; lost the opportunity to ever own a home (too old to start paying a mortagage now) lost the opportunity to advance my career and lost all but 3 friends ( two live in another state). I can't even get income protection insurance because I was treated for depression. They will only agree to insure me if I see their shrink and agree to be medicated for an illness I don't have with the drugs that nearly took my life.

  I am sick of seeing sanitised stories about psychiatric treatment. Meds only work for  about 49% of people taking them. That leaves 51% who don't improve or get even worse or suicide. In Australia if you were to try and post this message on any message board for mental health support it will not be posted. It will be censored by moderators who won't print anything that doesn't project a squeaky clean  and flawless image  of  psychiatric treatment. There is so little scientific evidence to support anything psychiatry says or does. If you sign a consent for surgery you do so with full knowledge of the risks involved. You don't  get that with psychiatric treatment. It is not truly informed consent that you give. There is absolutely no balanced information distributed to patients.

  However, despite what happened to me I am constantly told by others that  'I have no right to feel angry. I should be grateful just to have recovered. I should just try to forget it and move on.'  That would be easier if people didn't ask why I'm not married , why I don't have children ; why I didn't buy a home and what did I do over the last 11 years. People approach me and start talking to me claiming they know me from a decade ago. Due to the ECT I cannot remember who they are , how they know me and what they know about me. It's rather embarassing to say you can't remember who they are even after they tell you their name. Also when it comes to explaining why you gave up work for 2 1/2 yrs and they say ," Oh, did you have a job in a different industry, have children or travel?"  When the real answer is ,"No I was locked up in a psych ward drugged to the eyeballs , having my memories erased with ECT and dangerously obese with parkinsonian symptoms ( from meds)."

  People like myself are made to feel that it's not the fault of the psychiatric fraternity that  our lives were ruined. Not to mention you cannot  even sue them for compensation as the statute of limitations is only  3 yrs here. Nobody successfully sues a doctor here without becoming bankrupt themselves. So how can I get justice ? Even acknowledgement or an apology for mistreating me would be suffice. But instead they want me to forgive them and thank them for their efforts ! Would you ?

I'm not too sure if any of my words would do you any good, but still.....I'm very sorry. And I really hope you can find it within yourself to start looking at the future, no matter how troubling it may be. You've 'survived' 11 years of mistreatement, that makes you a very strong person to me! And I know people around you make that worse, people can be so insensitive....as long as it does not happen to them.

Holding ''them' responsible is very difficult; as soon as you point the finger at one of them, they will point at someone else. It's the same here (Holland)....we know now they already knew what Zoloft did to people when they started giving it here....me, and many others, suffered from the same symptoms as you did. Since I wasn't depressed but Bipolair I even had a more severe reaction, but I was lucky....I'm okay. But no one ever came forward either, no one ever apologized.....I even think you can still get Zoloft here....they say the risks are minimized.....

 

To answer your question......would you? I'm sorry, but I don't think I can answer that question, I honostly would not know. I'm tempted to answer 'no', but experience has taught me that keeping anger inside of me makes the situation worse for me.....I try to get rid of anger as soon as I can :) But in this case....boy, I think that would be a very hard job.  

 

I hope the new year will bring you some better things, I hope it will bring you the strength to let the grip they've got on your life go. They don't deserve to be in your attention span.

 

All my best,

 
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January 22, 2008, 8:01 am PST

Chantix

My brother-in-law began taking Chantix 11-07,started losing weight,tingling in fingers and toes,drepressed,with anxious feelings about his health.  He went back to physician and was taken off his celibrex. Was told he was just having panic attacks,was not taken off his Chantix.  This man was a very happily married my of 40 years with Grandchildren. He had not ,had anything happen to him to which he would have had a reason for what occurred.  On 1-3-08 he got ready for work,kissed his wife goodbye,finished loading his vending van with frozen food and walked into his garage and shot himself with a 20 gauge shotgun.  You have to understand, this is the most traumatic,horrific thing that has ever happen in all of our lives !!!  I need help trying to help my sister get through this,as she found her husband when she came home for lunch. I"m not sure how or what to do.  I am so afraid for her.  PLEASE HELP US ! ! !
 
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January 22, 2008, 11:09 am PST

from my own experience

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My brother-in-law began taking Chantix 11-07,started losing weight,tingling in fingers and toes,drepressed,with anxious feelings about his health.  He went back to physician and was taken off his celibrex. Was told he was just having panic attacks,was not taken off his Chantix.  This man was a very happily married my of 40 years with Grandchildren. He had not ,had anything happen to him to which he would have had a reason for what occurred.  On 1-3-08 he got ready for work,kissed his wife goodbye,finished loading his vending van with frozen food and walked into his garage and shot himself with a 20 gauge shotgun.  You have to understand, this is the most traumatic,horrific thing that has ever happen in all of our lives !!!  I need help trying to help my sister get through this,as she found her husband when she came home for lunch. I"m not sure how or what to do.  I am so afraid for her.  PLEASE HELP US ! ! !

I have been dealing with anxiety mixing with attention defesit disorder and it makes my brain puzzled and makes me frustraighted. So maybee your brother in law was very puzzled and frustraighted inside. I think alot of times suicides feal trapped and that there is no escape. I believe sister should understand that it was not her fault and that God knows what was wrong with him and that he made a mistake i believe God will forgive him and i think she should find the strength to forgive him. Your brief storey helped me out because i have been thinking about commiting suicide but i always have to keep in mind when you end your own life it affects everyone around you and that keeps me from ever following through. If she wants to know why she should talk to other people who have had a suicide in there family. I know several and if she wants some advice from them i'll have the write something in the message board.

 

 
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January 22, 2008, 11:09 am PST

from my own experience

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My brother-in-law began taking Chantix 11-07,started losing weight,tingling in fingers and toes,drepressed,with anxious feelings about his health.  He went back to physician and was taken off his celibrex. Was told he was just having panic attacks,was not taken off his Chantix.  This man was a very happily married my of 40 years with Grandchildren. He had not ,had anything happen to him to which he would have had a reason for what occurred.  On 1-3-08 he got ready for work,kissed his wife goodbye,finished loading his vending van with frozen food and walked into his garage and shot himself with a 20 gauge shotgun.  You have to understand, this is the most traumatic,horrific thing that has ever happen in all of our lives !!!  I need help trying to help my sister get through this,as she found her husband when she came home for lunch. I"m not sure how or what to do.  I am so afraid for her.  PLEASE HELP US ! ! !

I have been dealing with anxiety mixing with attention defesit disorder and it makes my brain puzzled and makes me frustraighted. So maybee your brother in law was very puzzled and frustraighted inside. I think alot of times suicides feal trapped and that there is no escape. I believe sister should understand that it was not her fault and that God knows what was wrong with him and that he made a mistake i believe God will forgive him and i think she should find the strength to forgive him. Your brief storey helped me out because i have been thinking about commiting suicide but i always have to keep in mind when you end your own life it affects everyone around you and that keeps me from ever following through. If she wants to know why she should talk to other people who have had a suicide in there family. I know several and if she wants some advice from them i'll have the write something in the message board.

 

 
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January 26, 2008, 9:19 pm PST

Teenager with no one to turn to

I am an 18 year old college freshmen that everyone thinks has it all together. People are constantly telling me that I am "on a very good path," that I "know what I want and where I'm going," everyone says that they're proud of me, that I am making really good choices and know where I'm headed, my professors have told people I'm a real "go-get-'em" person. Once, a professor even told me "students like you are the reason I keep teaching.

 

I feel so guilty when people tell me these things.

 

Because they don't know the truth, they don't know what goes on behind closed doors. No one does.

 

When I was fifteen a lifetime of abuse and anguish finally caved in on me and I sunk into the world of self-inflicted injury. I was doing every day and it was accompanied by non-stop thoughts of suicide. I eventually admitted my issue to a teacher and started seeing a therapist. To be totally frank, me and my therapist never really clicked, I know it's not about making friendships or anything. But the truth I just didn't really get along with her. I started to resent her after a while.

 

Regardless, I was able to get relief from my suicidal thoughts and my self mutilation stopped. I stopped seeing the therapist and everyone thought I was fixed. I told everyone my cutting had stopped entirely.

 

I was lying.

 

Over the next few years there were several instances where stresses and intense feelings would build up and I would snap and pull the knife on myself again. But it was only sporadic, and I wasn't thinking about killing myself anymore. So I thought little of it.

 

But I am here at college now, an eight hour plane ride from my family and the community I grew up in. And I have lapsed back into this habit. I cut myself every  evening, sometimes in the morning, sometimes both. I don't even bother putting my razor away anymore, I have it out and at the ready so I can grab it whenever a bad memory comes back to me or I come back from an embarassing experience I wasn't anticipating it. I have to lie to people, when people see my cuts, I make up all kinds of stories to explain them. There was even one time I had to wrap a cotton bandage on my arm because it wouldn't stop bleeding and I told people it was an accident during an art project.

 

That is one of the reasons I am afraid to admit this to anyone.

 

 I am afraid of people who thought they knew me feeling like I decieved them and thinking they can't trust me. Because I don't talk to anyone about this. I don't like to talk about my problems with people because I am afraid of pushing them away. I don't want to create that akwardness. I feel like "people have enough of their own problems and their own lives, why do they need to deal with me and mine."

It's ironic. People tell me that I am a good person to talk to, that I am trustworthy and easy to open up to. But that is exactly what I am having such a hard time doing and being for others.

 

I know if I caved in completly, if I gave into these sudden urges I am feeling, people would be totally shocked.

 

Because I do have these urgings, I will be having a "session," and the suddenly the strong, almost overwhelming desire to slice my wrist and let myself bleed until I can't bleed anymore will come over me. I will literally grip my hair, put my head between my knees, and force myself to take deep breaths until the feeling passes.

 

Not long ago I had an episode where I totally lost control and made more cuts at once than ever before. The whole left side of my body was like something out of a horror film. I went to a school counselor and admitted this to her. She is so far the only one that know about any of the self injury I have inflicted since I stopped counseling three years earlier. I want to go back to her and talk to her more about it. But I am too ashamed.

 

Why? Because I had to sit down and confront the fact that maybe, just maybe, I really don't want to stop.

 

When I am in the throws of a craving, it is as if my mind splits into two. One half says..

 

"This is disgusting, this isn't normal, it's counter-productive, not to mention painful, there has to be a better way,"

 

And the other half, the stronger half, says..

 

"Hey, it's quick, it's easy, it make you feel better, no one has to know, it's not effecting your health like  drugs or bulimia or something, and it's not effecting your ability to function in society, so why not?"

 

I really don't know what to do. I have no one I can talk to. The thing that scares me is I am getting to the point where I can't picture myself without this, it has become such a part of me. And I know that perception will only get stronger with time.

 

It really is like this demon sitting in the corner waiting to catch me in a weak moment and spring on me when my guard is down.

Any advice or words of support would be appreciated.

 
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January 28, 2008, 6:21 am PST

Giving and Receiving Support

Quote From: ronin2

I am an 18 year old college freshmen that everyone thinks has it all together. People are constantly telling me that I am "on a very good path," that I "know what I want and where I'm going," everyone says that they're proud of me, that I am making really good choices and know where I'm headed, my professors have told people I'm a real "go-get-'em" person. Once, a professor even told me "students like you are the reason I keep teaching.

 

I feel so guilty when people tell me these things.

 

Because they don't know the truth, they don't know what goes on behind closed doors. No one does.

 

When I was fifteen a lifetime of abuse and anguish finally caved in on me and I sunk into the world of self-inflicted injury. I was doing every day and it was accompanied by non-stop thoughts of suicide. I eventually admitted my issue to a teacher and started seeing a therapist. To be totally frank, me and my therapist never really clicked, I know it's not about making friendships or anything. But the truth I just didn't really get along with her. I started to resent her after a while.

 

Regardless, I was able to get relief from my suicidal thoughts and my self mutilation stopped. I stopped seeing the therapist and everyone thought I was fixed. I told everyone my cutting had stopped entirely.

 

I was lying.

 

Over the next few years there were several instances where stresses and intense feelings would build up and I would snap and pull the knife on myself again. But it was only sporadic, and I wasn't thinking about killing myself anymore. So I thought little of it.

 

But I am here at college now, an eight hour plane ride from my family and the community I grew up in. And I have lapsed back into this habit. I cut myself every  evening, sometimes in the morning, sometimes both. I don't even bother putting my razor away anymore, I have it out and at the ready so I can grab it whenever a bad memory comes back to me or I come back from an embarassing experience I wasn't anticipating it. I have to lie to people, when people see my cuts, I make up all kinds of stories to explain them. There was even one time I had to wrap a cotton bandage on my arm because it wouldn't stop bleeding and I told people it was an accident during an art project.

 

That is one of the reasons I am afraid to admit this to anyone.

 

 I am afraid of people who thought they knew me feeling like I decieved them and thinking they can't trust me. Because I don't talk to anyone about this. I don't like to talk about my problems with people because I am afraid of pushing them away. I don't want to create that akwardness. I feel like "people have enough of their own problems and their own lives, why do they need to deal with me and mine."

It's ironic. People tell me that I am a good person to talk to, that I am trustworthy and easy to open up to. But that is exactly what I am having such a hard time doing and being for others.

 

I know if I caved in completly, if I gave into these sudden urges I am feeling, people would be totally shocked.

 

Because I do have these urgings, I will be having a "session," and the suddenly the strong, almost overwhelming desire to slice my wrist and let myself bleed until I can't bleed anymore will come over me. I will literally grip my hair, put my head between my knees, and force myself to take deep breaths until the feeling passes.

 

Not long ago I had an episode where I totally lost control and made more cuts at once than ever before. The whole left side of my body was like something out of a horror film. I went to a school counselor and admitted this to her. She is so far the only one that know about any of the self injury I have inflicted since I stopped counseling three years earlier. I want to go back to her and talk to her more about it. But I am too ashamed.

 

Why? Because I had to sit down and confront the fact that maybe, just maybe, I really don't want to stop.

 

When I am in the throws of a craving, it is as if my mind splits into two. One half says..

 

"This is disgusting, this isn't normal, it's counter-productive, not to mention painful, there has to be a better way,"

 

And the other half, the stronger half, says..

 

"Hey, it's quick, it's easy, it make you feel better, no one has to know, it's not effecting your health like  drugs or bulimia or something, and it's not effecting your ability to function in society, so why not?"

 

I really don't know what to do. I have no one I can talk to. The thing that scares me is I am getting to the point where I can't picture myself without this, it has become such a part of me. And I know that perception will only get stronger with time.

 

It really is like this demon sitting in the corner waiting to catch me in a weak moment and spring on me when my guard is down.

Any advice or words of support would be appreciated.

  You seem to be in great pain and suffering the effects of PTSD (post traumatic stress disorder) due to what happened so long ago. it is easy for others  to say you should 'bury it and get on with the here and now' but it always comes back to bite you eventually if you never dealt with it properly. Cutting is your way of distracting yourself from those traumatic memories but it is destructive.

   

    My advice would be to see a psychologist not just a counsellor . A psychologist has much more knowledge about treating PTSD effectively. Medications will not fix the problem they only mask it and stop you from ever dealing with it . Ask any Vietnam veteran what antidepressants/antipsychotics have done for their PTSD - nothing. A psychiatrist will only want to prescribe drugs and ECT which again don't  fix the problem nor help you to deal with it.  Why do I say this ? Because I too used to suffer from PTSD. I was molested at 8yrs of age and date -raped at age 20. I never had counselling or therapy at the time. I kept it a secret until I was 28. Unfortunately I allowed myself to be 'treated' with medication which almost killed me due to having an adverse reaction which was only further compounded by a series of psychiatrists. I lost ten years of my life for nothing . When instead if I had of had psychotherapy I would have worked through it at age 28 not age 36.

 

    Best wishes and know that you can overcome this if you seek help in the right places.

 
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February 8, 2008, 1:51 pm PST

So Sorry

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I have been dealing with anxiety mixing with attention defesit disorder and it makes my brain puzzled and makes me frustraighted. So maybee your brother in law was very puzzled and frustraighted inside. I think alot of times suicides feal trapped and that there is no escape. I believe sister should understand that it was not her fault and that God knows what was wrong with him and that he made a mistake i believe God will forgive him and i think she should find the strength to forgive him. Your brief storey helped me out because i have been thinking about commiting suicide but i always have to keep in mind when you end your own life it affects everyone around you and that keeps me from ever following through. If she wants to know why she should talk to other people who have had a suicide in there family. I know several and if she wants some advice from them i'll have the write something in the message board.

 

I Just Want To say I`m so sorry,it will be hard for your sister,I wish you all well.

 

Laura

 
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February 8, 2008, 2:12 pm PST

Hi

Hello,I`m new and want to say hello,My name is Laura I`m 29 with 2 kids,I have been taking Lexapro for over a year now,for slight depression and panic attacks,I don` have the panic attacks any more but sometimes feel down and drained.I guess it don`t help me that, I`m in a relationship that is not so good,as far as connecting with each other,sometimes I feel like he don`t love me or wants to really be with me,so feeling like this is one thing that depresses me,i`m also over weight,I have no job and depended one my boyfriend for everything right now.I often feel lost in my life and scared of being on my own.Most days I don`t feel like doing much but watching t.v,of being on the computer,house work comes last most days and most of the time I talk myself out of doing it.I`m a mess and I know it,I want to find myself again and be happy.

 

Laura

 
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February 13, 2008, 6:00 am PST

Anyone willing to help...

Hi, My name is Kelsey... I'm pretty new to this site. I really need anyone that's willing to talk right now. I know it sounds a little stupid, but I have a dog that was diagnosed with cancer a few years ago and since yesterday has been having severe seizures... I didn't sleep at all last night, making sure she was okay and even now I'm shut in the bathroom with her so make sure she doesn't hurt herself when she has another one. I'm sixteen and I skipped school today so I could watch her. I'm not obsessive and all, I know she's a dog... It's just.. i've had her for twelve years and it's hard losing someone, animal or human that's been there for you through everything. It's really hard for me to deal with and need someone that can listen to me and help get me through this... the vet may or may not come to put her down today... it's a hard choice, but it's the most humane thing that we can do for her right now... thanks so much...

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