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Topic : 09/03 Who's the Evil-Doer?

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Dr. Phil’s guests say their mothers-in-law are just plain evil and out to destroy their marriages. Cindy started having second thoughts on her wedding day when her mother-in-law, Janet, began talking about her son, Jeremy’s, overly active sex life with a former flame. After Janet refused to apologize, Cindy and Jeremy cut off contact with her. They now have a son whom Janet has seen only once. Janet says Cindy is really the malicious one, and she needs to stop turning her son against her. Then, Vivian says her mother-in-law, Phyllis, is so evil, she takes pride in people thinking she’s having an affair with her very own son. Phyllis says Vivian is a master manipulator who has torn the family apart and kept her from seeing her grandchildren. Is there any hope of repairing these relationships? And, what can the men do to keep from being caught in the middle of their wives and their mothers? Share your thoughts, join the discussion.

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September 2, 2007, 7:19 pm PDT

evil doers

hi ,,,you want to see evil mother in-laws or  the in law family come live with me i have a husband who cant semm to let go of his sisters hip,he does what she says when she says it and even how to say things,,,she has called me everything you can imagin,and then when confronted she lies and says she never said any thing ,,this evil lady even tryed to run her own son down while he was riding his bike ,,this women knew her son was hiding in the bushes on there acrage and as she is comming down the drive she gun it and hit the son and broke his bike and damaged her van and she is a foster mother to 5 kids ,,this just sickens me and i have to live with this women in my life ,,,,she come between my husband and i ebery thing from how to get him to do things for her to her telling him when he can have sex with me ,,his wife ,,,the mother in law agrees with her she too is told what to do and when and how from her own daighter my mother in-law and i do not speack because she too is telling my husband just what he should be doing and has even gone as far to tell my husband to kick me out of our home and for what well  your guess is good as mine ,,,these are evil people and this is not even half of what they have done to me ,,,they had someone beat me when i was alone at home and when i tryed to report it the mother and sister in-law had thier friend who is a cop dismiss my file and there is so much more so it time for this lady to say bye ,,,good ridence ,,,so long kiss my butt on my way out  and hope they burn in hell
 
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September 2, 2007, 9:12 pm PDT

09/03 Who's the Evil-Doer?

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Why is the blame almost always put on the Mother n law.  Don't they realize their husband has a Mother n law too whom the daughter n law almost always claims is the one who never interferes?  The daughter n laws can be most disrespectful, obnoxious, evil, rude and just about every vile thing imaginable.  Believe me, I have one.  She has lied about our family and their is no was to disprove her lies.  She has turned her two children against this family and noone gets to see them.   She holds divorce over my sons head if he dare comes near this family.  I have learned to move on and they will pay the consequences as we are a good upright family and their children have missed out on a lot of good things, especially just knowing their Grandparents.  Today is my Granddaughters birthday and I will not be able to see her.  I got along so well with my own Mother n law and she was like a Mother to me.  This is my son's second marriage and he always made bad choices in women.  It's not always the Mother n law.

I had a wonderful mother-in-law. She was always truthful with me as well as helpful. She told me once that I was acting like a spoiled brat when my husband and I were arguing,which I was! I was 16 then and had been married only months. That was 43 years ago and we are still married. I still miss her today.She was an angel on earth. She said when she was in the hospital dying that she loved me like one of her daughters. We lost her quick,( 3 days). She had cancer.

I think that so many daughters-in-law view their husbands mothers as the enemy. I think so much of the time without any reason. They think it's the way they are supposed to veiw the M-I-L. 

I have one daughter-in-law that is that way. I did everything I could to let her know that I loved her and was glad to have her in our family. It didn't work. It has been over a year since I have seen my two grand-daughters and they live less than 10 miles away. I do blame my son for that because he could do something about it. He will come to see us but he never brings the girls. One day he will realize how wrong that was but it will be too late. They get to see the other grand-parents every day most of the time.

I have another daughter-in-law and I let her know that I am glad she's in our family. We give each other hugs before we leave. We talk on the phone . Go places together and laugh and cry together.We have a good relationship and my son or daughter-in-law make sure that when one set of grand parents see those precious children so do the other set of grand parents. I think  you need to work on the relationship to make a complete family. Sometimes it just won't work but each should try 100% to make a complete family.

If you know you have done everything you could do and the hate and blame is still there, you just may have to learn to live without them in your life. It's not easy but when it comes down to it ,You can't make someone love you.

 
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September 2, 2007, 9:47 pm PDT

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Have you noticed that the mother of the son seems to be the bad one most of the time.  I lost communication with my son after only 10 months of him being married..  I know there is always a difference in the way things go because the wives' mother and father seem to get to be the first ones on the list.  I did not put my nose where it did not belong after my son was married.  But as soon as they were married, I was not allowed to come to the house unless I called first, not even to drop off a gift of groceries or something they had needed. After my grandson was born, my ex husband and I had one day a week from 6 until 8:00 that we could come and visit the baby.  I do know for a fact that her sister and mother came almost every day even though we were told they did not.  I can see as I look back things that were done and said that I let slide that were leading to my not being a part of the family.  This was very hurtful to stand and have my daughter-in-law accuse me of things I was suppose to have lied about but did not, and her yelling for my son to call the police to get me out of the house.  He just stood there and said or did nothing to take up for me.  I was all he had growing up because the father was verbally and emotionally abusive to him.  I stood up for him always. To be thrown out of the house and my grandson only four months old was the horror of my life.  I have not seen him since then and was told that I would never see him again.  The daughter-in-law has control over what happens in the family more than you know.  My son was told if he did not get me out of the house that she would take the baby and go to her mother's and told him, "You know what that means!"  I never wanted anything but happiness for them because he grew up in a very unhappy household.  I wouldn't have caused any heartache for him.

Absolutely !!

 
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September 2, 2007, 10:10 pm PDT

I want to dance, sing and celebrate the life of my family!

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No one can take you anywhere you don't already know how to go.  When people chronically make me miserable, do ugly by me, I start to ask myself what I am getting out of this?  Am I a rightious martor?  Gaining comfort from others pity.  We all get something out of others bad behavior, or we wouldn't put up with it.

 

From Osho,  The Book of Understanding

 

People have remained concerned about their acts: Which act is right and which act is wrong? What is good and what is evil? My own understanding is that it is not a question of any particular act. The question is about your psychology.

When you are total, it is good; and when you are divided, it is evil. Divided you suffer; united, you dance, you sing, you celebrate.

 



This is my second marriage (I have two girl's from my first) and we have 3 children together.  I have tried to be the very best DIL my MIL could ever hope for yet she has a third world Sicilian mentality and is very evil toward's me every chance she get's! I've put up with this nonsense for over 20 years!  My husband is tied to her apron to this day! It's even worse since his father passed away nearly 10 years ago(she even blames me for his death!lol) as she control's all the money. She supports my husband financially and believes everything he has ever told her!  I learned that he is the major cause of the division between the entire family.  All because of money!  I told him in 1998 that I would give him 5 years to get his act together, choose between her or I or I would move and take out children with us because we need a 'support system' and not to be treated poorly by his family!  I made my way in 2003 and bought a home out of state hoping he would miss us so much that he would see the light and he didn't because he can do as he pleases, and does not have to participate in anything or work a regular job like most responsible men(age 51) and he allows his mother to pay all the bills and buy him whatever he whats and he does nothing for his children or I!  My MIL is ignorant, does not drive, swim or ride a bike.  She couldn't hold an intelligent conversation to save her life yet she can gossip and meddle like no one else I know!  So I moved away and refuse to buy into all the drama and "Soprano" like family they are!  Bullies like you would not believe!  My husband and I dated several years prior to marriage. We had planned our wedding and several month's into the planning I became pregnant and we decided this was a blessing!  The first grandchild for the family!   My SIL had been married for a few year's and had no children as she made the choice to abort her first two pregnancies so they could have all their heart's desired first while she allowed her family to believe she had 'fertility problems'! 
My MIL told me 2 weeks prior to getting married to her one and only son (she has two  daughter's) that she "did not want me having her first grandchild" and proceeded to tell me that she "wanted me to have an abortion'! (She now sits and reads her bible!) I was devastated by her and realized she was evil. I tried to kill this woman with kindness and nothing was ever good enough!  I gave 5 wonderfully gifted and beautiful loving grandchildren( ages 31, 28, 20, 18, 15  and lost 3!) to this family that place's more value on money and material things instead of being happy to have a family to dance, sing and celebrate life with!  Can you imagine how lonely I would have been if I had listened to that old bat! I am now a grandmother of three and she has even meddled into my daughter's lives so terribly and they allow it!  I ignor all of them and try just to do the right thing alway's and know that they are the one's truly missing out on what is most important! 
 
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September 3, 2007, 3:03 am PDT

You go, girl!!!!

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     Nobody! but nobody can wreck your marriage but the two married people! The solution is simple.  Stop allowing malicious gossip to affect how you respond!  Mother-in-laws or mother-outlaws have no power, but the power you give them over your lives.  Relatives do not have any rights when it comes to your marriage and family.  

      So stop whinning about your mother-in-law and set the boundaries to prevent problems! Your mother-in-law bothers you because you  allow her to bother you.  Just stop-it ! Take authority over your lives and children.  You can not reason with someone who is unreasonable!

Keep people out of your married life and family life,  that is your right! Mother-in-laws have no rights, but the rights you give them! So get a backbone!!!

 Clearly, this woman understands relationship issues in all facets of life, not  just family issues.  It's Called self esteem. No one has that kind of power over you unless you give into it.  It took me 19yrs. to figure that out. People will bully you if you let them.  Your right- you can't  reason with an unreasonable person.   We have two sons and have always taught them that in order to get respect, you have to give respect in return.  They have come from humble beginings with a spiritual background.  When they leave the 'nest', I hope that we've installed in them a sense of self respect, integrity,morality,compassion for their fellow man and self love.  I actually like my kids and are lucky to have great repore with them, even through their teenage years,  and bullying at school .  If I may quote a phrase from Peter Finch in the movie "Network', "I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take it any longer".  A man is not defined by who he is,  but by what he does.
 
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September 3, 2007, 4:52 am PDT

i love my mother in law

i was engaged in high school. i moved to the city to live with my fiance'  and his parents at the tender age of 17. i found his mum to be very opinionated, over emotional and a tad pushy. i always felt intimidated by her (she is such a strong headed woman and raised 4 boys) and thought perhaps it was because she never raised a daughter that she didn't understand approaching a "daughter" requires a much more "tender touch" then that of perhaps a son.  i married her son and we are happily married. we moved into our own place and his mother would always persist with what we should do and how we should do things and it felt like she was continually pushing her way into our lives. It felt like she didn't think i was as capable as she was in running a household a didn't want me to be the queen bee as far as her son was concerned. i have always felt like this with my husbands mother and secretly wished that she could "be different" so i could like her..until recently.  On Sunday (fathers day) my husband and i decided to take his parents out for a fathers day dinner. i could see my mother in law was distressed. when we got a quiet moment and i gathered enough courage to ask her if she was okay. then she let it all spill out! she told me her husband has been suffering form depression and she was finding it difficult to support him. she said she felt isolated and lonely and didn't know what she had done to make her children not want to spend time with her. she said she couldn't help being the way she was and really just wanted the very best for her children and my husband and me. she said she was finding she was becoming overwhelmed and just wanted a friend so desperately to talk to. . All this time i thought my mother in law was a pushy interfering cow. the truth: she was mealy a woman crying out for help to her children and didn't know how to say "i love you. come chat with me awhile." she was lonely and wanted to be part of my life.  she cared - TOO MUCH! it seems the only person that needed to change was me. (not me but my attitude) when people take emotion away and really look at a situation it can give you a much better perception on what really going on. My special prayer for every DIL and MIL is that they find the courage to speak up and try hard to really get to know each other and find some common ground. if not that to at the very least respect each other as women. i know i have changed my opinion of my mother in law and look very much forward to investing some quality time into a life long friendship. God bless.

 
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September 3, 2007, 5:57 am PDT

That's what we're here for!

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Funny how everyone has so much to say and so many judgements before the show even airs!!!
We may change our minds after the show airs. We can only go by what little tidbits we are given at this time. We are all amateur psychologists.(Well I can only really speak for myself. I have a fake make believe degree that exists only in my mind. )PhD(Phantom Degree) The only place I can exercise my non-existent expertise is on these messageboards.I'd like to extend an invitation to you to join this elete club.
 
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September 3, 2007, 6:26 am PDT

09/03 Who's the Evil-Doer?

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     Nobody! but nobody can wreck your marriage but the two married people! The solution is simple.  Stop allowing malicious gossip to affect how you respond!  Mother-in-laws or mother-outlaws have no power, but the power you give them over your lives.  Relatives do not have any rights when it comes to your marriage and family.  

      So stop whinning about your mother-in-law and set the boundaries to prevent problems! Your mother-in-law bothers you because you  allow her to bother you.  Just stop-it ! Take authority over your lives and children.  You can not reason with someone who is unreasonable!

Keep people out of your married life and family life,  that is your right! Mother-in-laws have no rights, but the rights you give them! So get a backbone!!!

I understand this in theory but have trouble putting this into practice.  My mil lives with us, and my husband has no backbone - not with her and not with me either.  It affects my respect for him and it causes problems with my mil.  When she oversteps her bounds, I either have to suck it up or deal with it.  He doesn't.  It's gotten to the point where I think we'll end up divorced because he can't "man up."
 
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September 3, 2007, 6:47 am PDT

yes some can but.....

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The DAUGHTER-IN-LAW can be the instigator just as well and turn the son against the mother.  no one knows what exactly she tells her husband about what his mother did or said to her.  My DIL is very obsessive. they have not been married 1 year yet and have a 4-month-old son whom I have seen once. they live in another state.  she has now stopped sending me any pictures of my only grandson although she continues to send weekly pictures to others.  We were not invited to the baby's baptism.  I am very hurt and have had many days where all I do is cry because I can't see or be near my grandson or be a part of his life.  this gal has problems and wants me no where near her house, the baby and my son.  I won't play her game. I hope she eventually gets the help she needs but I'm afraid this marriage won't last and it is going to be my son who loses.  AGAIN>>>>> the DIL can be the instigator and "tell" her husband that his mother is at fault..... two-way street here.  So who does the son side with???? Either way he loses.
yes you are right some can be. but i have the same problem with my  mil, she is such a mean lady never in my life have i met someone that is so hateful, i have always sent pic and videos and have called to let her know how we are doing. at first we got along good untill she started to try and get his ex around him and she wanted them to get back together she called and told my husband that the only reason he married me was b/c to take care of my mistake ( what is my oldest son) how sad is that, calling a inicoent child a mistake. and that is not at all true, i didn't need aman to take care of my son or I, for that matter, so just recantly i have stoped all contact with her i don't call i don't send pics, nothing afer 9 yrs of marriage i am so sick of all her bs, the letter she writes are just awful, at holidays she send only to her son not to any of his kids bioligicaly or not, (how sad is that) the iniconent kids are seeing this, i finally gave up on her b/c she twists everything, i had started keeping letters she sends so others see this and if i had sent anything i make a copy, (cards letters ect) so anyways i fell bad for my hubby so that is why i don't talk to her anymore, now she can't have anything to lie about anymore.  i fell bad for you if you are a great mil, and want to be there for ur son and his wife, but some mil just want there sons all to there self and pick there mates and you can't do that. my hubby  has a very stressfull job and i don;t think he needs all this bs that she brings all the time, he barely calls home since she complains all the time about everything and tells him how much she would like him to be with so and so. my parents are so good to him and treat him as if he was one of there own kids, so i just wish we would have a better relationship. he doesn't know what to do about this but i am just sick of it.
 
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September 3, 2007, 8:06 am PDT

09/03 Who's the Evil-Doer?

Today is Sept. 3rd.  I'm watching Dr. Phil right now about Mother-inlaws and the problems with their families.   First, I'd like to say, I love my Mother-in-law dearly and we do get along pretty well.

In watching this show, one thing comes to mind, Ephesians 5:31.   "For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh."

Seems to me that these Mothers need to realize their sons have grown, married and now have famlies of their own.  Time to cut the "apron strings".       I was shocked at the fact the the one mother  was proud of the fact that people actually think she's "having a thing" with her own son !!

I say, it's time they grow up and leave their sons alone with their families.

And the sons need to get some backbone in them and say "enough is enough."

 

 
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