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Topic : 09/03 Who's the Evil-Doer?

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Created on : Friday, August 31, 2007, 10:15:25 am
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Dr. Phil’s guests say their mothers-in-law are just plain evil and out to destroy their marriages. Cindy started having second thoughts on her wedding day when her mother-in-law, Janet, began talking about her son, Jeremy’s, overly active sex life with a former flame. After Janet refused to apologize, Cindy and Jeremy cut off contact with her. They now have a son whom Janet has seen only once. Janet says Cindy is really the malicious one, and she needs to stop turning her son against her. Then, Vivian says her mother-in-law, Phyllis, is so evil, she takes pride in people thinking she’s having an affair with her very own son. Phyllis says Vivian is a master manipulator who has torn the family apart and kept her from seeing her grandchildren. Is there any hope of repairing these relationships? And, what can the men do to keep from being caught in the middle of their wives and their mothers? Share your thoughts, join the discussion.

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September 3, 2007, 8:25 am PDT

Sometimes...

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yes you are right some can be. but i have the same problem with my  mil, she is such a mean lady never in my life have i met someone that is so hateful, i have always sent pic and videos and have called to let her know how we are doing. at first we got along good untill she started to try and get his ex around him and she wanted them to get back together she called and told my husband that the only reason he married me was b/c to take care of my mistake ( what is my oldest son) how sad is that, calling a inicoent child a mistake. and that is not at all true, i didn't need aman to take care of my son or I, for that matter, so just recantly i have stoped all contact with her i don't call i don't send pics, nothing afer 9 yrs of marriage i am so sick of all her bs, the letter she writes are just awful, at holidays she send only to her son not to any of his kids bioligicaly or not, (how sad is that) the iniconent kids are seeing this, i finally gave up on her b/c she twists everything, i had started keeping letters she sends so others see this and if i had sent anything i make a copy, (cards letters ect) so anyways i fell bad for my hubby so that is why i don't talk to her anymore, now she can't have anything to lie about anymore.  i fell bad for you if you are a great mil, and want to be there for ur son and his wife, but some mil just want there sons all to there self and pick there mates and you can't do that. my hubby  has a very stressfull job and i don;t think he needs all this bs that she brings all the time, he barely calls home since she complains all the time about everything and tells him how much she would like him to be with so and so. my parents are so good to him and treat him as if he was one of there own kids, so i just wish we would have a better relationship. he doesn't know what to do about this but i am just sick of it.
I honestly believe that some women just can't accept that thier sons need a women other than them in thier lives. I personally know of 2 women who liked the girlfriends until they became the wives.( You just have to take my word for it. Nothing changed on the part of the DILS.) With my sister-in-law she liked the first wife when she was the girlfriend. She hated her guts when they got married. They were married for 10 years,had 2 kids. Somehow the DIL got along with my SIL. Then the son left his wife for another woman. My SIL IMMEDIATELY started liking her ex DIL. She kind of liked the new girlfriend. When her son married the 2nd time, she IMMEDIATELY hated the new wife. She says a lot of things behind thier backs so they don't know a lot of the way she feels. They basically go on with thier life and just try to get along with her. They don't let her control how they live thier lives. I do know that with the first wife, my SIL bought her son 400.00 worth of stuff one Christmas and got her DIL a sweater. I know there are a lot of good women out there who are accepting of DILS, but I'm tellin' ya, there are some women who can never accept that thier son has a wife who is going to come first in his life. I guess it's just a twist of human nature. I'll tell ya something kinda silly. When my son was born, I looked at him and said jokingly, "I'm just raisin' him for some old woman." But really that's what we are doing as mothers. I'm not a MIL yet, but I am gearing up to try to be a GOOD one.
 
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September 3, 2007, 10:47 am PDT

TEN COMMANDMENTS FOR HOW TO TREAT OTHERS

In general, we don't learn much about healthy communication skills and interaction techniques in school or in our culture.  The only way we learn how to communicate and interact in relationships as adults is by what we see in our homes as we are growing up. 

 

 

HOW TO TREAT OTHERS (including family members): 

 

1.  Be kind, think kind thoughts, and use kind words

2.  Be gentle

3.  Take turns, be fair and share

4.  Be polite

5.  Care about others

6.  Be helpful

7.  Listen attentively  

8.  Respect the thoughts and feelings of others

9.  Give encouragement 

10. Cooperate with others

10a. Set healthy boundaries

 

How to get posters for your family:

www.teachchildren.com/0768213932.html  

 

 

If you grew up in a family where you had to yell to be heard or acknowledged, while your partner grew up in a family where emotional outbursts were ignored or not tolerated, your divergent communication and interaction styles are going to get in the way of your long-term healthy bonding (with your partner and others). 

 

 

Hope it helps!

 

 

 
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September 3, 2007, 10:58 am PDT

Who's the Evil-Doer?

Okay, so that woman was ridiculous. I didn't believe a word she said.
 
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September 3, 2007, 11:19 am PDT

Parents First

I was just listening to your show, agreeing with most of what the couples had to say.  You finished the show stating that you will have to bury your parents one day, indicating some loyalty to your parents.  I want to share my personal experience with you.  I know many come your way, but this gives an extra twist to something YOU have not experienced.

I married 37 years ago.  I was suppose to be the love of his life.  For EVERY weekend for the first 2-3 years, we always visited his parents, usually a 2 hour drive each way, leaving on Friday evening and returning to our home on Sunday night.  Now, I was the love of his life, but he could not devote a weekend  to us.  I got tired of the competition and stopped going every time he went, hoping,again, that he would start spending time with me.  He didn't.  He would always put me and our son off with the "when I retire"routine.  He retired 4 years ago.  His mom would not exercise, gained weight and became bedridden.  He "had to " go up and help care for her because she refused to go to a nursing home.  He got her up to use the potty, washed her down when she messed herself, bathed her, the whole thing that I believe a son should not have to do for his mother.  He would come home so angry that he would go out and chop wood.  He became depressed.  His father died in December 2004 and his depression worsened.  He went to a psychologist who diagnosed him with survivor's guilt.  She died the following May 17,2005.  While at the cemetary, a friend of his mom's came to me to tell me his mother was so glad that I did not come to her house and ruin her Mother's Day with her son.  As usual, she wanted him to herself.  It did hurt me that she would even tell other people how much she wanted him to herself.  He began working as a landscaper, I, on the other hand, tried to plan trips and entertain him to keep him from being so depressed.  We went to Hawaii in May 2006.  This was to celebrate his retirement, our anniversary, and our son's graduation, all we had put off.  He didn't really get excited while there.  On the 16th of May he repeatedly asked "Is today the 17th" referring to the date of his mothers death.  Due to all his stress from caring and feeling guilty, he died on the 20th of May from an enlarged heart.  So, I had accepted my lot as second person.  We had put her first with the intentions of "catching up" later.  Dr. Phil, later never came.  Never, never, never.  Now I am alone, 56 years old and don't trust a single man.  My purpose is to say, you never know when your spouse will die also.  There you have never been.  To have to deal with the tragedy, the plans in an unfamilar place, telling everyone and only have one person who hurts just like you do is soo dificult.  Tomorrow never came.

 
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September 3, 2007, 1:10 pm PDT

09/03 Who's the Evil-Doer?

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We may change our minds after the show airs. We can only go by what little tidbits we are given at this time. We are all amateur psychologists.(Well I can only really speak for myself. I have a fake make believe degree that exists only in my mind. )PhD(Phantom Degree) The only place I can exercise my non-existent expertise is on these messageboards.I'd like to extend an invitation to you to join this elete club.

Personally, I didn't really change my mind even after seeing it.

Don't know about you, but I thought this board would be hopping a bit more, time zones and things like that I suppose.

Hehe, can't wait to hear from the guests themselves how their words were twisted and how they were misrepresented and all that, honestly, you air your dirty laundry on an international TV show, what do you expect ? Seems to me if you are being misrepresented, then you are lying on the tapes.

Anyway, guess I'll check back later.

 
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September 3, 2007, 1:38 pm PDT

09/03 Who's the Evil-Doer?

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wow !!! i'd have to say you are not the evil mil in this relationship. I could only wish my mil would call to take the kids and do stuff with them. Just because she doesnt like me doesnt mean she has to hurt the kids. but I guess it doesnt matter how old you are , its how mature you are.
Thank you all so much for the support in these messages! I too have let everything go, as I am not going to stoop to her level.  I have my own life to take care of and another son and DIL who love me for who I am, not for what I can do for them. I have a loving relationship with her children (from a previous marriage) and I enjoy every minute I can spend with them. I pick them up from school, they stay with me during the summer and swim in the pool, everything a grandmother is suppose to do. Their mother told me from the very beginning that she trusted me fully with her children and I was welcome to treat them as my own. I also much mention, my husband retired in 2004, we sold a 50 acre farm because of all the work and bought a brand new $200,00.00 home. The evil daughter in law has always acted jealous and said things to the fact that her parents will never have anything like this. She also told me she thought I spent too much on furniture , decor, etc. Do you see the jealousy? In fact all this evilness on her part didn't start until after we sold our farm. Thank you all again for the kind words...I now see that I am not the evil one here. I am no angel by no means, because she has caused me to think some of the things I do. But, with my counseling, I'm hoping to become a whole person again after this person just about destroyed me. I just do not know how a son could go to sleep at night, thinking the way he does about his mother. But I do realize he has probably been given ultimatums. And she would take him to for everything she could get.
 
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September 3, 2007, 1:39 pm PDT

Sweet Jesus.....

And I thought MY parents were too concerned with my life and my business......Thanks for putting things in perspective for me. (Evil Mother-in-laws show)

YIKES! That's all I can say.....YIKES!

 

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September 3, 2007, 1:40 pm PDT

I Love my mother-in-law too

 

I have a fantastic mother-in-law. She is my friend and like a mother to me since my mother past away many years ago. That said, Maybe Phyllis is mentally ill. Its a really sad situation and my heart goes out to Vivian and her husband.

 
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September 3, 2007, 1:41 pm PDT

I didn't get to see the show.

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Personally, I didn't really change my mind even after seeing it.

Don't know about you, but I thought this board would be hopping a bit more, time zones and things like that I suppose.

Hehe, can't wait to hear from the guests themselves how their words were twisted and how they were misrepresented and all that, honestly, you air your dirty laundry on an international TV show, what do you expect ? Seems to me if you are being misrepresented, then you are lying on the tapes.

Anyway, guess I'll check back later.

Jerry Lewis telethon on one station and golf on the other.(I can get it here in southwest VA at 3:00 on 6 out of WVA and at 4:00 on 10 out of Roanoke. Tell me about the show. Janet already posted a message saying she was on the show to get help with her marriage. I thought maybe there might be more to the idea that a mother would be glad to think that people would think that she was having an affair with her son.(Maybe people thought she looked younger than she is?) I hated to miss the show, but what can ya do .......?
 
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September 3, 2007, 2:43 pm PDT

Same here

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Jerry Lewis telethon on one station and golf on the other.(I can get it here in southwest VA at 3:00 on 6 out of WVA and at 4:00 on 10 out of Roanoke. Tell me about the show. Janet already posted a message saying she was on the show to get help with her marriage. I thought maybe there might be more to the idea that a mother would be glad to think that people would think that she was having an affair with her son.(Maybe people thought she looked younger than she is?) I hated to miss the show, but what can ya do .......?
I didn't get to see the show either because of the same programs on the stations. I absolutely could not wait for this show to air...now I don't have a choice. So please give us a little more information about what happened.
 
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