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Topic : 09/03 Who's the Evil-Doer?

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Created on : Friday, August 31, 2007, 10:15:25 am
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Dr. Phil’s guests say their mothers-in-law are just plain evil and out to destroy their marriages. Cindy started having second thoughts on her wedding day when her mother-in-law, Janet, began talking about her son, Jeremy’s, overly active sex life with a former flame. After Janet refused to apologize, Cindy and Jeremy cut off contact with her. They now have a son whom Janet has seen only once. Janet says Cindy is really the malicious one, and she needs to stop turning her son against her. Then, Vivian says her mother-in-law, Phyllis, is so evil, she takes pride in people thinking she’s having an affair with her very own son. Phyllis says Vivian is a master manipulator who has torn the family apart and kept her from seeing her grandchildren. Is there any hope of repairing these relationships? And, what can the men do to keep from being caught in the middle of their wives and their mothers? Share your thoughts, join the discussion.

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September 3, 2007, 2:46 pm PDT

It was the same for me...

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Jerry Lewis telethon on one station and golf on the other.(I can get it here in southwest VA at 3:00 on 6 out of WVA and at 4:00 on 10 out of Roanoke. Tell me about the show. Janet already posted a message saying she was on the show to get help with her marriage. I thought maybe there might be more to the idea that a mother would be glad to think that people would think that she was having an affair with her son.(Maybe people thought she looked younger than she is?) I hated to miss the show, but what can ya do .......?
I couldn't see it either today, but they usually have a repeat the next day in the afternoon!
 
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September 3, 2007, 2:59 pm PDT

Who's the Evil-Doer?

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Thank you all so much for the support in these messages! I too have let everything go, as I am not going to stoop to her level.  I have my own life to take care of and another son and DIL who love me for who I am, not for what I can do for them. I have a loving relationship with her children (from a previous marriage) and I enjoy every minute I can spend with them. I pick them up from school, they stay with me during the summer and swim in the pool, everything a grandmother is suppose to do. Their mother told me from the very beginning that she trusted me fully with her children and I was welcome to treat them as my own. I also much mention, my husband retired in 2004, we sold a 50 acre farm because of all the work and bought a brand new $200,00.00 home. The evil daughter in law has always acted jealous and said things to the fact that her parents will never have anything like this. She also told me she thought I spent too much on furniture , decor, etc. Do you see the jealousy? In fact all this evilness on her part didn't start until after we sold our farm. Thank you all again for the kind words...I now see that I am not the evil one here. I am no angel by no means, because she has caused me to think some of the things I do. But, with my counseling, I'm hoping to become a whole person again after this person just about destroyed me. I just do not know how a son could go to sleep at night, thinking the way he does about his mother. But I do realize he has probably been given ultimatums. And she would take him to for everything she could get.

It is terribly unfortunate - but I don't think your daughter-in-law is envious of your new home and expensive new furniture - rather she's concerned about her inheritance. Too many in-laws look at what should be coming their way when they spouse's parents pass on - sometimes I feel as if one or two of my sister-in-laws were marking up my mom's treasures -- I guess I wasn't the only one as later on I overheard my mom say to them that all those things would be going to her daughter (me).

 

Just like these moms on the show are trying to force their sons to chose them over their wives there are in-laws who try and force their wives or husbands to chose between you and them. I'll never understand why some people are so lacking in confidence that they force their husbands, wives or children to chose btween them and other loved ones - but there are too many like that. You don't have to deal with it - it's a terrible sorrow to grow accustomed to but you have to try and find a peace within yourself that let's you forgive and understand your son being torn between you and her - the wife will almost always win out - because he chose her and right or wrong he won't easily admit that there are problems there. She will always force him to chose her above everyone - his friends, his family maybe even his profession - she's just someone with that kind of low self-esteem.

 
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September 3, 2007, 3:56 pm PDT

We don't get it until 9 PM ET

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Personally, I didn't really change my mind even after seeing it.

Don't know about you, but I thought this board would be hopping a bit more, time zones and things like that I suppose.

Hehe, can't wait to hear from the guests themselves how their words were twisted and how they were misrepresented and all that, honestly, you air your dirty laundry on an international TV show, what do you expect ? Seems to me if you are being misrepresented, then you are lying on the tapes.

Anyway, guess I'll check back later.

So I can't form a real opinion until I actually get to see it. Besides that, probably a LOT of folks are enjoying the last hurrah of summer & don't even realize it's a new ep. today.

 

Should be interesting, though -- like you, I nearly HURLED over the "mother" who was proud of people thinking she was intimate w/ her son. How could that sort of statement be "misrepresented," I wonder??

 
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September 3, 2007, 3:59 pm PDT

MOTHER-IN-LAWS FROM HELL

I would just like to say (for my sanity) that the second Mother-in-law from hell said she HAD MS.

MS IS AN INCURABLE DISEASE!!! Is there a cure the rest of the World doesn't know of??

What a whack-job.

 
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September 3, 2007, 4:08 pm PDT

Families with Mental Illness

Hi there,

 

After watching the show today, I believe this illustrates how difficult it is to live with family members who suffer from a mental illness. The second mother in-law (the one who was pleased that people asked her if she was her son's wife) may be suffering from a mental illness that was not mentioned on the show as she seemed to be unaware of all the situations that caused grief to her family, was seeing a lot of doctors, and appeared to rely on ineffective coping strategies to deal with the issues at hand.

 

It is a sad that the possibility of mental illness was not mentioned, as I think many families could benefit  from insight on how disruptive and difficult it can be on family members (especially those who marry in).

 

Nice job on bring up the importance of boundaries Dr. Phil. What healthy boundaries are is a show in itself!

 

 

 
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September 3, 2007, 4:48 pm PDT

its also on...

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I couldn't see it either today, but they usually have a repeat the next day in the afternoon!
a few hours after the tennis match
 
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September 3, 2007, 5:02 pm PDT

09/03 Who's the Evil-Doer?

The best mother-in-law is the one that is at least 1,000 miles away!  I had my own problems with my mother-in-law and swore I wouldn't do that to my daughter(s)-in-law!  I believe I have a good relationship with mine - I'm sure I've bitten my tongue many times and been a little hurt" and/or misunderstood sometimes - it does work both ways.  Even if asked for advice - give only basic advice or none at all, it seems to work better that way in the long run.  Mothers of sons, back off the son's wife - your relationship with your grandchildren will depend on it.  Mothers of daughters - seems to be much easier but the same "rules" apply - watch what you say about the husband to the daughter and listen to BOTH sides when they complain to you about the other!  There really are two sides to the story - your own child may not be the one in the right!

 
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September 3, 2007, 5:29 pm PDT

thank God!

I thank God every day for my mother in law.  She is not evil.  She stays out of our business.  She's a kind loving person.  She will put her 2 cents in over minor things, said like... "you know what I'd do if this was my kitchen, yeah, I know shut up, but I'm going to tell you..."  But she stays out of our business.  

 

I can't believe the mother's on the show.  I am more surprised by the sons, not standing up to their mothers.  These 2 women were beyond evil. 

 

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September 3, 2007, 5:35 pm PDT

Haven't Seen MIL for nearly 9 years

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Hi there,

 

After watching the show today, I believe this illustrates how difficult it is to live with family members who suffer from a mental illness. The second mother in-law (the one who was pleased that people asked her if she was her son's wife) may be suffering from a mental illness that was not mentioned on the show as she seemed to be unaware of all the situations that caused grief to her family, was seeing a lot of doctors, and appeared to rely on ineffective coping strategies to deal with the issues at hand.

 

It is a sad that the possibility of mental illness was not mentioned, as I think many families could benefit  from insight on how disruptive and difficult it can be on family members (especially those who marry in).

 

Nice job on bring up the importance of boundaries Dr. Phil. What healthy boundaries are is a show in itself!

 

 

I've been waiting for Dr. Phil to air this type of show for ever because I was hoping that he would share some good advice for us DIL's. I too have not seen my MIL for nearly nine years. My daughter was only 6 months old when we last encountered a heated argument in my driveway. I hope she was watching the show today, but like the MIL on today's show, my MIL never admits to wrong doing---she seems to forget the things she has said and done. As for me, I have tried to forget, and I can't. I moved purposely to get away from her. Even when she wasn't causing trouble intentionally, she had a way to stir things up and cause turmoil for my husband and I anytime. There isn't a day that goes by that I don't think of her and what she has done to me and my family. I pray for her, and I pray for myself, but I don't think I can ever heal from her harm.  I wish that my daughters could know her, but if they do know her, they also know the disturbed person she is. She has raised three dysfunctional children, all alcoholics, drug addicts, and one even in prison. With this track record and her own problems, I think it is better that my girls aren't around her. One message board reply said that the children would grow up not knowing their grandparents, and have problems. Well, I don't think that. At least they won't be subjected to the dysfunction that she would bring along. When she came to my home and started an argument in my own driveway while I had the 6 month old on my hip---she overstepped her boundaries. I think never knowing her at all is better than knowing them, loving them and then getting hurt by them as I have. I am trying to protect my girls from her. Sure she would be sweet as pie, buy their love and put on a show for a while, but her true colors would come out---like the woman on the show, she can be set off in a split second, and you never know what she's going to say or do. Afterwards, she acts as though nothing has ever happened. And yes, just like the others, she claims that I keep her son from her, fill his head with stuff, and that I threaten him with divorce and taking the kids to keep him away----All of which are untrue. He would like to see her, but he realizes that he can't because of the way she is. He doesn't want his own girls to grow up experiencing the dysfunction that he was raised in.  I don't threaten him, but I will protect my kids from her and her evil ways at all costs. If that is manipulating, then call me a manipulator, but I've only got one chance to make their childhood as normal as possible and with or without her, I will. I am still angry, angry that she hurt me, angry that my kids can't know her and angry that she put us in this predicament to start with. And even angrier that she is too mentally ill, evil or whatever to realize what type of person she is.
 
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September 3, 2007, 5:56 pm PDT

Irony

The irony is that these men usually marry a strong (sometimes overbearing) woman because that's what they grew up with.
 
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