Topic : 09/06 The Ex Factor

I truly feel for the children here because they probably have more maturity than the adults combined.  You could tell Louise didn't have a clue when she kept going back and forth about wanting or not wanting to be with Mike.  Who lets some guy beat on her and then says "Oh yes, I see a future with him!"?

Mike no doubt has anger issues and mental problems when he can agree without hesitation, "Yes, I did that to her.  Yes, I did that too.  Yep, to that too."  Give me a break!  Why in the world is he so appealing?

Shannon - good grief.  Was I the only one who felt she was making stuff up as she went?  She spoke and thought just like a child AND she has two more kids at home? 

It truly surprised me when they said not one of them has gone to court about their kids.  They're just doing what Mike allows them to do.  Give me a break, people.  Grow up and raise your children so the state won't have to do it for you!

I posted my standard advice on how to raise a child with a maniac earlier.  I don't think these people are quite mature enough for my formula, but I still hope they read it. 

My comment on the show is with regards to the removal of a child because of housekeeping.  Now, obviously this woman (Shannon) lives in public housing of some sort.  The kind where they can (and regularly do) come into the house and check the status of the apartment.  That house better have been extremely filthy to remove that child.  I mean the kind of filthy that would make the news filthy.  Otherwise to remove a child from their parent based on houskeeping (even a destroyed home) is just absurd.  The reason this man has the child is because he was better (and cheaper) than foster care.  

 I know a young mother who lives in constant fear of her landlady inspecting her Public Housing apartment.  She's quite normal in the clean dept., but still she is one paranoid mother of 3....if food is left out after a meal and she is inspected, she will be "written up"...I've learned more than I ever want to know about Public Housing in the last few months from my sweet, but poor friend.  I keep asking her if it wouldn't just be easier to come up with rent money each month.

This Shannon did not seem too bright, bless her heart, but Social Services can jump the gun.  Removal of a child is serious serious business.    Maybe it was neccessary, certainly she hasn't fought to get her back, maybe she is overwhelmed, but that house better have been filthy, I mean like rats and mice filthy, to remove her child.....I'd like to know how bad it was.  Love, Luanne 

Louise, girl, what is wrong with you.  You arent sure whether or not you should stay with Mike because the people you talk to tell you to try and work it out for your sons sake.....let me just say that you are doing your baby no favors by staying with that shell of a man.

I left my ex when my son was 3 months old and let me tell you, he is better off without him.  I can not believe that you have not gone to court because you are worried that you wont get what you want.  Grow up!  Its not about getting what you want, its about what is best for your child.

My ex also threatened my family, my current fiance and my son.  I know its scary but think of how scared your helpless child is and will be if you continue on this path.

Take him to court and get custody.  You are his mother, it is your job to protect him!

Yep, good message. It's about doing whats right not your feelings of "love" which by the way is distorted through abuse. See it for what it is. Abuse. You become the abuser the minute you allow it to happen to those who cannot stand up for themselves.

If everyone would start being honest that would be the best thing for everyone.  I believe that Mike at least admits to his abuse.  Sometimes when your in a rage you forget or blackout so he maybe not lying but just doesnt remember events.  I think he is a immature person who needs counseling and he needs to grow up.  If you can't have Louise than just be a father to your son.  You don't own Louise and if she wants to date then you need to be a real man and let her.  If you really love her you will want her to be happy.  Abuse is a deal breaker and so you broke it. 

Louise you need to stay away from Shannon she is a trouble maker and not a true friend.  I bet that the only thing you even ever really talk about is Mike and everything that goes on.  I think that she is jealous of you and the relationship you have with Mike.  She is jealous you get to have your son and that Mike says your a great mom, but with Shannon he doesn't even allow her to see her child and doesn't think shes a good mom.  She also mentioned on TV something about child support that if she had her daughter he wouldn't want to pay child support , but would pay you whatever you want.  I think Shannon is bad news and not a friend.  I don't believe anything she says.  You can see it in her eyes.  Louise you need to get some counseling as well and I would stay away from the people that are not supportive of your decisions.  Take care of yourself and don't worry about what Mike may or may not do.  They have authority figures that can help if he wants to act like a child.

Shannon you need to stop lying about everything and get a life of your own.  Mike doesn't like you.  Who cares move on.  You need to leave Louise alone.  What kind a friend would sleep with a best friends boyfriend for whatever reason. I think you want to sleep with him I think that you like that and I think you love telling Louise about it.  If you want your daughter than go get her.  Your not afraid of Mike not one bit.  I think he treated you wrong and you want to punish him for it.   Your daughter said she loves and misses so good enough reason to go get her, but see I think you like the fact that Mike has her and I think you like going over there and sleeping with him.  Your not right in the head.  You need to grow up and be a stronger person.  Don't lower yourself to that kind of standard. 

You all need to grow up and be adults you are all acting like high school children.  You all need counseling.  Mike you need anger management and you need to prove yourself to Louise and your son so get the help you need and don't ever hit or hurt another woman again.  People like you are bullies. 

Louise please stay away from Shannon she does not want the best for you she is just jealous and a true best friend wouldn't sleep with your man for any reason.  She is just making excuses why.  she loves sleeping with him and rubbing it in your face.  She loves telling you about it.

Louise you need to try to be honest to.  You love Mike but you don't belong together and you did sleep with that night.  You lied because you didn't want anyone to think that.  Who cares if you slept with him if you love him.  He is the father of your child.  Just take care of your daughter and forget about shannon.

This entire show was so disturbing to me. Louise clearly still wants to be with whatever his name is. She mad excuse after excuse why he should still be in her life. Obviously the child would be 100 % better of w/o a father than one who abuses him and his mother ! DUH!!! I don't get what she was thinking that would make her confused.

It's almost as if all 3 people wasted Dr. Phils time because they said one thing and then would still a hang out. .... going to universal studio or where ever it was and possibly having sex the night before ?!? Are you kidding? These are the kind of situations that just make me angry because there is no reasoning.

And another thought...... I don't mean to come across as rude but these people seem to be very unfit parents. I don't get why people can't go to Planned Parenthood and get ABSOLUTELY FREE birth control/condoms. If more people would simply do this, there would be so fewer problems in the world.