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Love them, tolerate them, or despise them? Dealing with the in-laws can be stressful to a marriage. Share your stories and coping strategies.

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December 8, 2005, 5:30 pm PST

Getting Along With Your In-Laws

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Dear gradmabear, 

  

In response to the reply to my original quote.  In no way have I ever kept my husband from his parents.  Through these last 8 months I have encouraged him to call his father when he has mentioned it.  My issue is based on what was said to me and my not being ready to see them yet let alone have them in my home! 

  

There is a BIG difference between a few slights or insults and what has happened.  I have let the slights and insults go over for 5 years in the interest of family harmony.  The last straw was when I was called the devil, told that they were going to sue me for custody of my son as they felt I was not a good parent (I don't parent like them), they were going to kidnap my son and leave the country, my husband was only married to me because he felt obligated as he was returning to school, my husband would have left me if we did not have my son.  Needless to say my husband has no intentions of leaving me.  Then.......they go on to say that my husband is dead to them.  They no longer have a son or grandson.  They also say that as long as I am in the picture they will continue to have nothing to do with my husband. 

  

Now, we have seen them twice since my post.  They act as if nothing has happened.  I will say to you.  I have a very thick shell to put up with these kinds of insults for 5 years.  Again, I have no need to control my husband's reactions.  I just want my son to understand that it is never okay to speak to someone this way and that I have every right to be comfortable in my own home. 

Grandmbear, 

 I have a similar problem with my in laws and I don't prohibit my husband from seeing his family. However when it is causing your sanity that's when I will put my foot down and stop being so nice. Being a grandparent is a privaliage not a right.  

  

 
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December 8, 2005, 6:23 pm PST

Bully Brother-in-Law

I come from a large family and we get along famously.  Look forward every year to celebrating Christmas together at our house. The exception is our bro-in-law, divorced from our sister, with full custody of their 2 young boys (4 and 9).  Sister sees her children often. (I won’t bore you with why she does not have custody.)  Only get to see nephews once a year, because they live out of area.  Bro-in-law is very loud, has no tact, and expects everyone to watch the children once he arrives to the gathering, since we see them so rarely.  He makes tactless comments bullies the other children, who are older, with comments that he thinks are funny.  If someone should mention that the children are getting into something they shouldn’t or maybe need to be moved to another room, instead of getting up out of his chair he yells into the other room “Hey, David, get in here now and leave your Aunt Dolores alone!”.  Keep in mind there are usually about 25 people at our house for Christmas.  There is already enough noise being generated from the large group, and with his added bellowing, he is just obnoxious.  He also comes to the gathering empty handed – no food contribution (we all contribute food/drinks) and no gifts for the other nieces and nephews (we all get gifts for all the children).  When mentioned 2 years ago about gifts for the other nieces/nephews, his response was “Oh, I didn’t know we brought gifts for all the kids.”  Last year he did not keep an eye on his youngest who almost injured himself until I ran and stopped him.  I almost lost my temper, but because I didn't want to ruin everyone's day, I kept calm, went over to him and said “You need to watch David.  He’s only 3.”  I picked him up, put him in his lap and walked away.  He just doesn’t get it – that he is lazy, tactless and has no boundaries.  I would prefer not to invite him, but I want to see my nephews.  After last year's episode, my brother had a word with him about keeping a better eye on the kids, but I doubt that it did any good.  I am afraid that this year I will lose my cool and it will ruin everyone's holiday. I know my siblings feel the same way I do, because I have talked to everyone about him.  What can I do this year so he does not spoil our holiday again?      
 
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December 8, 2005, 8:03 pm PST

October 2004 was the last time I've seen the inlaws

Its been sense october 2004 sense I have seen my mother in law and my 2 sisters in law.  It all started back in 03 when my husband was on probation and he wasnt allowed to drink alcohol.  WE had a 4th of July bbq at our house.  And for some reason they wanted to go against his probation and bring it in the house.  We told them no, that if they felt that they needed to drink they could go across the street.  I stood by my husbands side at what he wanted, and after a HUGE argument, things were going better.  Well when it was time for everyone to leave that day, all of a sudden My husbands mom goes up to him and says "are you sure this is the girl you want to marry".  "And if you dont tell her that shes a bitch, then i will".  To this day my husband and I have no clue as to what I did.  Well, they left and went back to the other side of the state, while in the mean time.. his sister was calling threatening to kill me. I just ignored what she said and went on.  We stopped talking to them for about 9 months.  And for some stupid reason I told my husband that I thought that he should call up his mom and talk to her.. cause we have one child and one on the way.  And I grew up without my real family and I thought it was important for my kids to know their biological family!  Well so we did and we moved up to be closer to his mom.  We moved to a small town of 2000 ppl.   needless to say about 6-7 months of living there, things started to turn sour on us again. His family took a situation they knew nothing about and blew it WAY out of porportion. I would explain the situation but  it would take awhile of typing!! anyways.  Needless to say his sisters came to our house and got some things that we had borrowed from his mom. So we decided to go to his moms house and get our stuff.  Well Im 9 months pregnant at the time, and 3 rather large women, started attacking me, luckily my husband was there to prevent them from doing anything worse. otherwise I would have fallen down 6 steps.  anyways... towards the end of it all before we moved out of that town his family had called Social Services and made up alot of lies, and Social Services cam and investigated and found no services needed. Tried to get us kicked off of Housing, Got us kicked out of one grocery store (mind you there is only two in that town), Told everyone I was using drugs while I was pregnant, Told people we had a meth lab in our basement (niether one of those are true), slandered our name bad.. just said nasty things about us.  Then a few months ago my husbands sister had someone call him on his cell phone and told him that I was sleeping with him while my husband was at work, and that he was at our house waiting to kick his ass.. so my husband came home.. only to realize it was a lie, so they are still trying to secretly pull all the lil stunts they can to screw up our life.....And now its been a lil over a year sense we have seen them last.. and I have a son that they havent seen.  I have given them 2 chances... do you think a 3rd is appropriate??? Please I need some opinions.....
 
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December 8, 2005, 8:04 pm PST

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My husband and I have been married for almost 4 years.  In the time that we were planning our wedding, his family gave us nothing but problems.  From the wording of the invitation, to the color of the flowers everything was a major obstacle..  I tried to include the mil in the planning, and she would say that's wonderful to my face, but behind my back she would change her tune.  She would then call her two daughters and complain to them, and they in turn would call my husband and complain to him.  We had so many arguments about how he refused to "take care of the situation" that our wedding came into serious jeopardy.  Two days before the wedding I had a huge argument with his sisters.  I told them I was tired of them starting trouble and to keep there mouths shut until after the wedding.  I haven't spoken to them since.  The last time I spoke to my mil was two weeks after the wedding when we returned from our honeymoon.  After all, how dare I tell her precious daughters to butt out of my wedding.  Oh, before I forget, she has not spoken to either daughter in the past 6 months because she is "mad at them".  So much for familial love.   

  

Since our wedding, every Christmas card that my mil sends to the house is addressed to my husband only.  No mention of me on the envelope or in the card.  While my husband is annoyed by this, he refuses to say anything.  So last Christmas I saw her card in the mailbox and opened it (I usually don't bother).  In it was a little note expressing her displeasure in me as her d-i-l.  She also enclosed $10 with the promise of more money if he would just divorce me.  I was so livid I couldn't even see straight.  I shredded the card and never said a word to my husband.  Now a year later I am in possession of another card.  I haven't opened it, but again it is only addressed to my husband.  What should I do?  Hand it over?  She writes him letters all the time (she lives in another country) and it makes me wonder what she writes in those letters.  Why does my husband feel this is acceptable behavior from this woman?  She has terrorized her other daughter-in-law to the point where she doesn't allow her to see the kids.  My husband moved to the US to get away from her, he even left home at 15 to escape her.  She is controlling, child beating, b**ch, and yet he doesn't want to upset her which he feels would happen if he told her to stop her behavior.   

  

My  fear is having children.  I will never ever let this women alone with my child or my husband and child.  I would not be able to trust him.  She would bad-mouth me in front of my child while my husband sits there and says nothing.  He thinks because she would be their grandmother she gets automatic rights to them.  I think she has to earn her way into our family.  She's going to have to go through me, and it will be a cold day in hell before I ever let her see my child outside of my presence.   

  

I come from a very happy loving extended family.  Everyone gets along, there are no problems.  There is love and support for everyone.  His family is the exact opposite.  There is always someone not speaking to someone else.  Competition "to be the best" in their mothers eyes is also a problem.  My husband and I went to Europe recently and had to keep it a secret from his family.  When we got back and told his one brother the only thing he could say was "pity you couldn't have been here for mothers birthday".  He didn't speak to her for 10 years, but if my husband had been there for his mothers birthday his brother would have looked like a hero to his mother.  He could have told everyone that he got my husband there for her birthday.  Never mind me.  I guess I was just supposed to sit around waiting for my husband.   

  

So I guess my main question goes back to the card and future children.  What am I going to do?   

Diana 

It was mean of your mil to send a card like that with a hateful note attached. Even though it was to your husband, you are his wife, you two are "one" so .....I would open it and read it and give it to your husband and let him read it  too. He will see for himself how she is. However, I would send her a card from "you" and thank her for the card and her "nice words" and the $10.00 she gave you "both" and let her know it treated you "both" out to a "happy meal" at McDonalds. I would also send her $50.00 and let her know it is to be used for her to get "counseling". She seems like a rude and mean person, so who would want their kids around someone like that anyway? About your future children, if mil cant accept you, what makes you think she is going to even accept a "part" of you? I would be leary of my kids being around someone like that, seeing how they treat me, they might treat the kids the same way. My children have only seen their grandparents (inlaws) 3 times in 2 years, but not one time at all this year, and we live right behind them. My mil is like yours to an extent, so since she cant accept me or our kids that we have "together", well then, I guess we cant accept her in our lives. Right? My husband used to be like yours until we went to counseling. Now he sees what is acceptable behavior and what is not. Believe it or not, my husband is the one who made the decision to cut his parents "out" of our lives. They are "toxic" to our family, our marriage and our lives.  If you want to be "spiteful", just write "return to sender" on the card but dont open it. LOL! (sorry, I'm being sarcastic) but I know how you feel. It angers me that my inlaws do our kids like they do by acting like they dont exist. The other grandkids they see, but they have no desire to see ours because WE wont let THEM control our lives. Good luck!
 
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December 8, 2005, 8:10 pm PST

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Its been sense october 2004 sense I have seen my mother in law and my 2 sisters in law.  It all started back in 03 when my husband was on probation and he wasnt allowed to drink alcohol.  WE had a 4th of July bbq at our house.  And for some reason they wanted to go against his probation and bring it in the house.  We told them no, that if they felt that they needed to drink they could go across the street.  I stood by my husbands side at what he wanted, and after a HUGE argument, things were going better.  Well when it was time for everyone to leave that day, all of a sudden My husbands mom goes up to him and says "are you sure this is the girl you want to marry".  "And if you dont tell her that shes a bitch, then i will".  To this day my husband and I have no clue as to what I did.  Well, they left and went back to the other side of the state, while in the mean time.. his sister was calling threatening to kill me. I just ignored what she said and went on.  We stopped talking to them for about 9 months.  And for some stupid reason I told my husband that I thought that he should call up his mom and talk to her.. cause we have one child and one on the way.  And I grew up without my real family and I thought it was important for my kids to know their biological family!  Well so we did and we moved up to be closer to his mom.  We moved to a small town of 2000 ppl.   needless to say about 6-7 months of living there, things started to turn sour on us again. His family took a situation they knew nothing about and blew it WAY out of porportion. I would explain the situation but  it would take awhile of typing!! anyways.  Needless to say his sisters came to our house and got some things that we had borrowed from his mom. So we decided to go to his moms house and get our stuff.  Well Im 9 months pregnant at the time, and 3 rather large women, started attacking me, luckily my husband was there to prevent them from doing anything worse. otherwise I would have fallen down 6 steps.  anyways... towards the end of it all before we moved out of that town his family had called Social Services and made up alot of lies, and Social Services cam and investigated and found no services needed. Tried to get us kicked off of Housing, Got us kicked out of one grocery store (mind you there is only two in that town), Told everyone I was using drugs while I was pregnant, Told people we had a meth lab in our basement (niether one of those are true), slandered our name bad.. just said nasty things about us.  Then a few months ago my husbands sister had someone call him on his cell phone and told him that I was sleeping with him while my husband was at work, and that he was at our house waiting to kick his ass.. so my husband came home.. only to realize it was a lie, so they are still trying to secretly pull all the lil stunts they can to screw up our life.....And now its been a lil over a year sense we have seen them last.. and I have a son that they havent seen.  I have given them 2 chances... do you think a 3rd is appropriate??? Please I need some opinions.....
Why go around a 3rd time? If that happened to me, they would have been history the 1st go around! Why give them another chance to wreck your marriage? to lose your kids to social services? to get into another fight? I think it would be a worse situation for you guys if you went for round 3. They are T-O-X-I-C!!!!
 
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December 9, 2005, 4:36 am PST

Sympathy for the Single Father

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I come from a large family and we get along famously.  Look forward every year to celebrating Christmas together at our house. The exception is our bro-in-law, divorced from our sister, with full custody of their 2 young boys (4 and 9).  Sister sees her children often. (I won’t bore you with why she does not have custody.)  Only get to see nephews once a year, because they live out of area.  Bro-in-law is very loud, has no tact, and expects everyone to watch the children once he arrives to the gathering, since we see them so rarely.  He makes tactless comments bullies the other children, who are older, with comments that he thinks are funny.  If someone should mention that the children are getting into something they shouldn’t or maybe need to be moved to another room, instead of getting up out of his chair he yells into the other room “Hey, David, get in here now and leave your Aunt Dolores alone!”.  Keep in mind there are usually about 25 people at our house for Christmas.  There is already enough noise being generated from the large group, and with his added bellowing, he is just obnoxious.  He also comes to the gathering empty handed – no food contribution (we all contribute food/drinks) and no gifts for the other nieces and nephews (we all get gifts for all the children).  When mentioned 2 years ago about gifts for the other nieces/nephews, his response was “Oh, I didn’t know we brought gifts for all the kids.”  Last year he did not keep an eye on his youngest who almost injured himself until I ran and stopped him.  I almost lost my temper, but because I didn't want to ruin everyone's day, I kept calm, went over to him and said “You need to watch David.  He’s only 3.”  I picked him up, put him in his lap and walked away.  He just doesn’t get it – that he is lazy, tactless and has no boundaries.  I would prefer not to invite him, but I want to see my nephews.  After last year's episode, my brother had a word with him about keeping a better eye on the kids, but I doubt that it did any good.  I am afraid that this year I will lose my cool and it will ruin everyone's holiday. I know my siblings feel the same way I do, because I have talked to everyone about him.  What can I do this year so he does not spoil our holiday again?      

I find parent hood difficult with 2 parents in the house.  Your BIL is probably more stressed than I am.  On top of that he has the added thrill of being odd man out socially as most single parents are mothers.  Then there may well be financial worries that you are not aware of - is your sister paying child support? - is he having to take time off work for things to do with the children?  Finally the poor man has to spend Christmas surrounded by 20+ plus of his ex-wife's relatives who expect him to be the life and soul of a party where he probably feels like a fish out of water. 

  

I know its annoying but the man regards christmas as a time when he gets a break from the responsiblity of 2 children because he's with some 2 parent families and other relatives.  I suggest you give him 2 or 3 domestic jobs to do when things become frazzled - peel the potatoes, make tea, load the dishwasher.  That way he contributes something.   

  

  

 
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December 9, 2005, 1:14 pm PST

How can this be going on?

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My husband has worked with his father in his fathers bussiness ever since he was a teen. He is now in his 30's. We have children. We have been married for almost 7 years now and for the last 6 years, we have never received a tax refund. My husbands gross pay is 600.00/week. His father holds out 100.00/week for child support that my husband owes and 100.00/week for taxes. His bring home pay is 400.00/week. His father claims him as a partner in his bussiness (even though he really isnt). He does this for tax purposes only. His father holds these taxes out of my husbands check but we never get a refund. The tax accountant said that my husbands refund is being rolled over to pay his social security that he owes. (now keep in mind his father holds this money out of my husbands check). So therefore we are not entitled to a refund, we have to pay! my husband told his father last year that he had better send in his taxes so we can get a refund for this year. But guess what? We have to pay again! (actually, we just dont get a refund). Shouldnt his father have to pay us our refund himself since he held the money out of his check? My husband is not a partner with his dad in his dads bussiness. My husband has never received any profits of the money made. His dad does this for his own tax purposes! I feel we are being cheated out of our refund by his father. This year my husband is doing his own bussiness and he has his own employees that he has to pay. He is no longer working for his dad. BUT...his dad is planning on claiming my husband again NEXT year as his partner. He cant do this! My husband is scared to say anything to his dad for some reason. But I am tired of it. We are entitled to unearned income due to the kids, but dont get it because of his father claiming my husband as his partner when he really isnt! How can I get my husband to "open" his eyes as to what is going on, before I decide to leave him because of it? His parents dont have anything to do with us.  They are such control freaks over my husband. They use my husband to their own gain. How can I stop this?

 

Harobe, glad to see you back! The inlaws came down about 3 weeks ago but did not get out of the truck. They had to get something from my husband. Our kids were walking right in front of the truck and my mil said hey to my son but my son just looked at her and kept on walking. Our daughter was right next to my son and she didnt even say anything to her. I was outside too and the kids were walking to me but mil acted as though she didnt see me, she just kept her head down. It has been 10 months since they spoke to me or even seen the kids. I am tired of them. I am tired and angry especially about the income tax refund! These people dont care about us.

Does your FIL control the payroll and do everybody's taxes himself? Do you have a CPA to take care of your new business taxes? There shouldn't be a problem with giving the new CPA your personal taxes to do.
Your FIL can't claim your husband as a partner unless there is documentation to that effect. Is he filed with the secretary of state in your state as a partner in this business? If he is, then he will need to "sell" his interest in the company to your FIL to get his name removed. This may require a lawyer, but if you threaten to bring one in to resolve this your FIL will probably be willing to work it out without one. After all, why would he want to "buy out" his son? But that's something else you could consider, making him cough up what you think he owes you in back tax refunds never issued as his buy out.
As far as the government is concerned, you are responsible for your taxes, ignorance is no excuse. If there are shady dealings going on I think I would want to know as soon as possible.
 
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December 9, 2005, 1:19 pm PST

Deja' vu!

 I thought I had answered this one once before! For some reason my computer won't go to the last page sometimes, and I answer a question that is centuries old. Let this be a lesson to me to check!
Hope you get a good laugh at seeing this answer on your taxes AGAIN!
 
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December 9, 2005, 1:27 pm PST

Why is he even there?

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I come from a large family and we get along famously.  Look forward every year to celebrating Christmas together at our house. The exception is our bro-in-law, divorced from our sister, with full custody of their 2 young boys (4 and 9).  Sister sees her children often. (I won’t bore you with why she does not have custody.)  Only get to see nephews once a year, because they live out of area.  Bro-in-law is very loud, has no tact, and expects everyone to watch the children once he arrives to the gathering, since we see them so rarely.  He makes tactless comments bullies the other children, who are older, with comments that he thinks are funny.  If someone should mention that the children are getting into something they shouldn’t or maybe need to be moved to another room, instead of getting up out of his chair he yells into the other room “Hey, David, get in here now and leave your Aunt Dolores alone!”.  Keep in mind there are usually about 25 people at our house for Christmas.  There is already enough noise being generated from the large group, and with his added bellowing, he is just obnoxious.  He also comes to the gathering empty handed – no food contribution (we all contribute food/drinks) and no gifts for the other nieces and nephews (we all get gifts for all the children).  When mentioned 2 years ago about gifts for the other nieces/nephews, his response was “Oh, I didn’t know we brought gifts for all the kids.”  Last year he did not keep an eye on his youngest who almost injured himself until I ran and stopped him.  I almost lost my temper, but because I didn't want to ruin everyone's day, I kept calm, went over to him and said “You need to watch David.  He’s only 3.”  I picked him up, put him in his lap and walked away.  He just doesn’t get it – that he is lazy, tactless and has no boundaries.  I would prefer not to invite him, but I want to see my nephews.  After last year's episode, my brother had a word with him about keeping a better eye on the kids, but I doubt that it did any good.  I am afraid that this year I will lose my cool and it will ruin everyone's holiday. I know my siblings feel the same way I do, because I have talked to everyone about him.  What can I do this year so he does not spoil our holiday again?      
 Can't your sister make a request to have the kids for a specified time on holidays? Does she also go to the ex's family gatherings? I can understand wanting to stay on good terms all around for the sake of the kids, but what happens if either one of them get married again to someone else? Does he have the right to refuse to let the kids come without him? Or are you inviting him because you're afraid of his reaction?
 
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December 9, 2005, 1:34 pm PST

No I don't

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Its been sense october 2004 sense I have seen my mother in law and my 2 sisters in law.  It all started back in 03 when my husband was on probation and he wasnt allowed to drink alcohol.  WE had a 4th of July bbq at our house.  And for some reason they wanted to go against his probation and bring it in the house.  We told them no, that if they felt that they needed to drink they could go across the street.  I stood by my husbands side at what he wanted, and after a HUGE argument, things were going better.  Well when it was time for everyone to leave that day, all of a sudden My husbands mom goes up to him and says "are you sure this is the girl you want to marry".  "And if you dont tell her that shes a bitch, then i will".  To this day my husband and I have no clue as to what I did.  Well, they left and went back to the other side of the state, while in the mean time.. his sister was calling threatening to kill me. I just ignored what she said and went on.  We stopped talking to them for about 9 months.  And for some stupid reason I told my husband that I thought that he should call up his mom and talk to her.. cause we have one child and one on the way.  And I grew up without my real family and I thought it was important for my kids to know their biological family!  Well so we did and we moved up to be closer to his mom.  We moved to a small town of 2000 ppl.   needless to say about 6-7 months of living there, things started to turn sour on us again. His family took a situation they knew nothing about and blew it WAY out of porportion. I would explain the situation but  it would take awhile of typing!! anyways.  Needless to say his sisters came to our house and got some things that we had borrowed from his mom. So we decided to go to his moms house and get our stuff.  Well Im 9 months pregnant at the time, and 3 rather large women, started attacking me, luckily my husband was there to prevent them from doing anything worse. otherwise I would have fallen down 6 steps.  anyways... towards the end of it all before we moved out of that town his family had called Social Services and made up alot of lies, and Social Services cam and investigated and found no services needed. Tried to get us kicked off of Housing, Got us kicked out of one grocery store (mind you there is only two in that town), Told everyone I was using drugs while I was pregnant, Told people we had a meth lab in our basement (niether one of those are true), slandered our name bad.. just said nasty things about us.  Then a few months ago my husbands sister had someone call him on his cell phone and told him that I was sleeping with him while my husband was at work, and that he was at our house waiting to kick his ass.. so my husband came home.. only to realize it was a lie, so they are still trying to secretly pull all the lil stunts they can to screw up our life.....And now its been a lil over a year sense we have seen them last.. and I have a son that they havent seen.  I have given them 2 chances... do you think a 3rd is appropriate??? Please I need some opinions.....
 And I'm surprised you're even considering it. These are some viscious, selfish people. Why would you want them in your life, much less teaching your children how to be mean people? We don't get to choose the people who bring us into this life, but we sure do have control over who we count as "family".
 
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