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Love them, tolerate them, or despise them? Dealing with the in-laws can be stressful to a marriage. Share your stories and coping strategies.

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January 26, 2008, 1:20 pm PST

Did Grandma and Grandpa mess up?

Hello all,

 

Would love all the input I could get on this.  Before christmas my husband and I had set a limit for the christmas gifts to our daughter and our son and his family.  We were going to buy my son and his wife a TIVO and our twin granddaughters a portable dvd player for the car.  They are 2 1/2.  After discussing this with our son and daughter in law I was called several days later by my dil who requested that we not buy what we had intended and please buy our son a peice of safety equipment used for 4 wheeler racing.  This safety device was 399.00.  Our limit was 400.00 for the family.  She said that this is what the girls would really like since they would not know no different and this would be the best gift we could give her and the girls since he races frequently as this protects him from breaking his neck if something horrible was to happen.  I told her if we did this, this would be it.  No other presents for any of them.  She said over and over again this would be fine. She also wanted it to be a surprise.  I then called my husband and asked him what he thought and he thought it was a great idea.  We ourselves were often concerned with his safety doing this sport.  From there on it was between him and the dil.  I had talked to my son several days before christmas and he seemed distance.  I told my husband something is up.  He did not think so. Come christmas day our son usually calls, but did not.  So, I called him and he was very upset that I had not gotten the girls anything.  I explained the agreement me and his wife has came to, and he really did not care. He was hurt that we has not gotten the girls anything for christmas, I told him yes we did we gave them your safety when you race and that is what we were told to do.  We got off the phone and 4 days went by without us hearing from him so I called and said I feel there is bad blood can we talk.  He said yes and the conversation I thought was good, even though it started out bad.  His wife had said that during one of the conversations with my husband that he said he would see to it that the girls had something to open. He denied saying it.  It's a he said she said situation.  I told my son we were sorry, did not mean to hurt his feelings and he said he did not accept my appology.  We live 13 hours from him, and he said there was more reasons he was upset.  Upset that we did not call the girls on halloween and that we did not contact the girls thanksgiving even though we talked to him on the phone as he was heading home from her families thanksgiving. He also thinks that we should drive 13 hours to see them for the weekend.  He also feels that we should go there for the holidays, that is what all grandparents do now.  The grandparents go to the kids not the kids to the grandparents house. I told him I thought his expectations were to high and that I was trying the best I could for living so far away.  I have sent the girls alot of gifts that were not associated with holidays or birthdays.  After this lengthy conversation our son refuses to take our phone calls or talk to us.  His wife has mention to a mutual friend that we did not get the girls nothing for christmas without telling her the whole situation,  leaving her to wonder why would we do something like this.  I called this mutual friend and told her the complete story, the next day I get a call from my dil yelling at me, telling me she never wanted to speak to me again or see me.  Called me bitchy called me sick, called me crazy, Told me I was full of drama, and said I needed to back off or I was going to loose my son for life. I told her we only did what she wanted us to do for christmas, she said I was a horrible grandmother and that this is not her fault, and I was not going to throw it up in her face that this was her doing on the gift. I said, it is your fault and why are you so angry.  After more ranting on the phone she hung up on me.  And still my son will not answer our phone calls.

 

My daughter was in town for christmas and texted her brother some not so nice texts concerning his conversation with me.  I was not a part of that and I told her I did not approve.  She was just protecting us and did not go about it the right way.  She is young and has alot to learn. She since has appologized for her actions.  I don't think he has forgiven her for that either.

 

If I had to do it all over again i would not of agreed to do what my dil asked.  It was a huge mistake.  I have told my son that.  It has gotten me know where with him..  Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

 
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January 27, 2008, 8:21 am PST

Please help with in-laws!

Hi me and my husband have been married for 4 years in April. I have an MBA and my husband is working towards his bachelor's degree. We recently moved from a mid-size town to a major city and now my father-in-law keeps telling my husband he can come home.

 

We now live in Houston, TX and my husband's best friend lives in Austin, TX. Before we moved here my father-in-law kept telling my husband that we needed to get out of Somewhere, AL. So, we have now moved and my father-in-law and sister-in-law act as if they can not believe we actually left. They keep pressuring my husband about why we didn't move to Austin instead of Houston.

 

It really makes me mad that my inlaws want us to live in Austin just because my husband's best friend lives there. What about the job prospects and the people. Jobs are more bountiful in Houston and the people are nicer, in my opinion.

 

How can I not let my in-laws bother us, now that we have moved? My father-in-law calls everyday now to talk to my husband. It is really beginning to bother me. I love my husband so much. I do not want what I feel is my in-laws interferring into our relationship to affect our relationship negatively. Help!!!

 
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January 27, 2008, 10:52 am PST

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Hi me and my husband have been married for 4 years in April. I have an MBA and my husband is working towards his bachelor's degree. We recently moved from a mid-size town to a major city and now my father-in-law keeps telling my husband he can come home.

 

We now live in Houston, TX and my husband's best friend lives in Austin, TX. Before we moved here my father-in-law kept telling my husband that we needed to get out of Somewhere, AL. So, we have now moved and my father-in-law and sister-in-law act as if they can not believe we actually left. They keep pressuring my husband about why we didn't move to Austin instead of Houston.

 

It really makes me mad that my inlaws want us to live in Austin just because my husband's best friend lives there. What about the job prospects and the people. Jobs are more bountiful in Houston and the people are nicer, in my opinion.

 

How can I not let my in-laws bother us, now that we have moved? My father-in-law calls everyday now to talk to my husband. It is really beginning to bother me. I love my husband so much. I do not want what I feel is my in-laws interferring into our relationship to affect our relationship negatively. Help!!!

 I'm assuming here that your husband is just as ticked off with his parents as you. If so then as you are seperated from them geographically you don't have too much of a problem. He can tell them you are staying where you are as the job prospects are better. If he still persists your husband can make non-commital noises and then say have to go Dad we are on our way out (or some such excuse for putting the phone down). Also screen your calls. He can't physically come and move you if you don't want to go.
If your husband isn't convinced that where you are is best then that is a whole different issue.
 
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January 28, 2008, 6:46 pm PST

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 hi all after reading about the terrible MIL I have worried myself.My daughter and I have always been very close.When she left for school she was the one in tears not me when she had to go and come.Of course I was sad to see her go also but she was a homebody and moved back home after school.She  married and wanted to have a house .Her husband worked at the steak house my husband helped get him a job at an area plant with great benifits making $28.an hour we also paid thousands to help get them in a new house and to furnish it with a new $1500.w&D and $1200 side by side fridge.We wanted our daughter to be happy.We also paid for her new honda when she went to college{that she quit one sem.before finishing}She wrecked the honda which we paid to have fixed but she never took it in to the shop to have it done.She wanted expensive wedding pix.So she got them But she never followed up with the photog to pick up the pkg and has lost the recipt so she doesn't know what was included in her pkg or the photog phone number to call and ask him.They have 2 dogs that have crapped all over the floor and you can go next week and the same crap will be in the floor so I paid my house keeper $150.to clean their house before the baby came home.They wanted a baby shower so I gave a baby shower I also wrote all the thank you notes.As I did for their wedding gifts.They wanted baby furniture and all the trimmings from Pottery Barn You guessed it,it is in their nursery now.Then the day the baby was born SIN starts we don'need you for any thing this is our baby we want to do this on our on without anybody else.Like it was a mantra  So for 2 years it was fine to need me just fine but now "we don't need any one anymore"When I asked him if he didn' think my daughter may need help after c-cection and high bp and sick baby he told me to butt out of their life or I would be banned from their life.I have never been more shocked in my life.Of course he ate the food I brought and took the $60 pkg of diapers I took and my husband had just gone to the hosp. and loaded their junk and brought it back to their house.I am walking on eggshells.alk about blurred boundries help!!!!   I am afraid the relationship with my daughter will never be the same
 
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January 28, 2008, 7:51 pm PST

Getting Along With Your In-Laws

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Hello all,

 

Would love all the input I could get on this.  Before christmas my husband and I had set a limit for the christmas gifts to our daughter and our son and his family.  We were going to buy my son and his wife a TIVO and our twin granddaughters a portable dvd player for the car.  They are 2 1/2.  After discussing this with our son and daughter in law I was called several days later by my dil who requested that we not buy what we had intended and please buy our son a peice of safety equipment used for 4 wheeler racing.  This safety device was 399.00.  Our limit was 400.00 for the family.  She said that this is what the girls would really like since they would not know no different and this would be the best gift we could give her and the girls since he races frequently as this protects him from breaking his neck if something horrible was to happen.  I told her if we did this, this would be it.  No other presents for any of them.  She said over and over again this would be fine. She also wanted it to be a surprise.  I then called my husband and asked him what he thought and he thought it was a great idea.  We ourselves were often concerned with his safety doing this sport.  From there on it was between him and the dil.  I had talked to my son several days before christmas and he seemed distance.  I told my husband something is up.  He did not think so. Come christmas day our son usually calls, but did not.  So, I called him and he was very upset that I had not gotten the girls anything.  I explained the agreement me and his wife has came to, and he really did not care. He was hurt that we has not gotten the girls anything for christmas, I told him yes we did we gave them your safety when you race and that is what we were told to do.  We got off the phone and 4 days went by without us hearing from him so I called and said I feel there is bad blood can we talk.  He said yes and the conversation I thought was good, even though it started out bad.  His wife had said that during one of the conversations with my husband that he said he would see to it that the girls had something to open. He denied saying it.  It's a he said she said situation.  I told my son we were sorry, did not mean to hurt his feelings and he said he did not accept my appology.  We live 13 hours from him, and he said there was more reasons he was upset.  Upset that we did not call the girls on halloween and that we did not contact the girls thanksgiving even though we talked to him on the phone as he was heading home from her families thanksgiving. He also thinks that we should drive 13 hours to see them for the weekend.  He also feels that we should go there for the holidays, that is what all grandparents do now.  The grandparents go to the kids not the kids to the grandparents house. I told him I thought his expectations were to high and that I was trying the best I could for living so far away.  I have sent the girls alot of gifts that were not associated with holidays or birthdays.  After this lengthy conversation our son refuses to take our phone calls or talk to us.  His wife has mention to a mutual friend that we did not get the girls nothing for christmas without telling her the whole situation,  leaving her to wonder why would we do something like this.  I called this mutual friend and told her the complete story, the next day I get a call from my dil yelling at me, telling me she never wanted to speak to me again or see me.  Called me bitchy called me sick, called me crazy, Told me I was full of drama, and said I needed to back off or I was going to loose my son for life. I told her we only did what she wanted us to do for christmas, she said I was a horrible grandmother and that this is not her fault, and I was not going to throw it up in her face that this was her doing on the gift. I said, it is your fault and why are you so angry.  After more ranting on the phone she hung up on me.  And still my son will not answer our phone calls.

 

My daughter was in town for christmas and texted her brother some not so nice texts concerning his conversation with me.  I was not a part of that and I told her I did not approve.  She was just protecting us and did not go about it the right way.  She is young and has alot to learn. She since has appologized for her actions.  I don't think he has forgiven her for that either.

 

If I had to do it all over again i would not of agreed to do what my dil asked.  It was a huge mistake.  I have told my son that.  It has gotten me know where with him..  Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

 i AM SO SORRY THIS HAPPENED TO YOU. iT SOUNDS LIKE THIS WAS A JUMPING OFF POINT FOR SOME PRIOR HURT FEELINGS OR UNRESOLVED ISSUES.i KNOW IT WAS THE PRINCIPAL OF THE THING BUT WOULD IT HAVE BEEN SO BAD TO SEND THE GIRLS A $10TOKEN GIFT .I KNOW HINDSIGHT IS 20/20 AND I ALSO WISH I COULD HAVE A DO OVER .WAIT FOR A COOLING OFF PERIOD
SEND A VERY SWEET LETTER ACCEPT RESPONIBILITY FOR THE MISCOMMUNICATION AND IF ALL POSSIBLE PLAN A TRIP TO VISIT IN THE NEXT 6 OR 8 WEEKS BEARING GIFTS FOR THE GIRLS OF COURSE.I AM BOTH MIL AND DIL BUT I HAVE A GREAT MIL.BUT  I DO STRUGGLE WITH THE SON IN LAW RELATIONSHIP SINCE MY DAUGHTER HAD HER BABY.FROM NOW ON BUY WHAT YOU WANT FOR CHRISTMAS AND CALL YOUR G'CHILDREN MORE OFTEN WHEN WE HAVE DISAGREEMENTS MY HUSBAND ALWAYS TELLS ME GET OVER IT LIKE IT IS A FAUCET,THE HURT WILL TAKE A WHILE TO HEAL ON BOTH SIDES YOU JUST DON'T TURN IT OFF OR ON

 
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January 28, 2008, 8:49 pm PST

Getting Along With Your In-Laws

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 i AM SO SORRY THIS HAPPENED TO YOU. iT SOUNDS LIKE THIS WAS A JUMPING OFF POINT FOR SOME PRIOR HURT FEELINGS OR UNRESOLVED ISSUES.i KNOW IT WAS THE PRINCIPAL OF THE THING BUT WOULD IT HAVE BEEN SO BAD TO SEND THE GIRLS A $10TOKEN GIFT .I KNOW HINDSIGHT IS 20/20 AND I ALSO WISH I COULD HAVE A DO OVER .WAIT FOR A COOLING OFF PERIOD
SEND A VERY SWEET LETTER ACCEPT RESPONIBILITY FOR THE MISCOMMUNICATION AND IF ALL POSSIBLE PLAN A TRIP TO VISIT IN THE NEXT 6 OR 8 WEEKS BEARING GIFTS FOR THE GIRLS OF COURSE.I AM BOTH MIL AND DIL BUT I HAVE A GREAT MIL.BUT  I DO STRUGGLE WITH THE SON IN LAW RELATIONSHIP SINCE MY DAUGHTER HAD HER BABY.FROM NOW ON BUY WHAT YOU WANT FOR CHRISTMAS AND CALL YOUR G'CHILDREN MORE OFTEN WHEN WE HAVE DISAGREEMENTS MY HUSBAND ALWAYS TELLS ME GET OVER IT LIKE IT IS A FAUCET,THE HURT WILL TAKE A WHILE TO HEAL ON BOTH SIDES YOU JUST DON'T TURN IT OFF OR ON

 I wouldn't dream of telling anyone what they should get me my husband or my kids.I think that is soooo rude I don't know what to do as far as the relationship but  once it is mended I'd surprise them when I bought them gifts I would ask or tell them anything about what they are getting.  They are lucky to have parents who can afford to spend that kind of money on them.  
 
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January 29, 2008, 7:35 am PST

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both my husband and i are well into our forties.  we have a young daughter together.  my inlaws.  have never accepted me. nor, do they accept our daughter.  they will tell us, along with my husbands siblings, that we are nothing to them, and, they dont know why we are here.  they will say horrible things to either my daughter or myself when my husband is out of the room, then pull the old, we are your family, who are you going to believe routine.  there is no basic courtesy in their actions towards either my daughter or myself, and, my husband says that i should ignore it and not put him in the middle.  he says that unless they say it in front of him, its not worth it.  (for a quotable here,,,,and, to nail this one down, MY DAUGHTER IS NOT FAT, NOR, IS SHE UGLY OR STUPID)  i have cut them off of time with us, which pleases his family, and, the only time i have to put up with it is at christmas.  this christmas was special, it was the first year in a new home, his family came, sat, waited for me to wait on them, and, left no room at the table for my daughter or myself.  we had to eat in the kitchen together, while my husband sat with his family, after my daughter breaking down intears, and, crying for a long time, my husband finnally said that xmas wasnt happening with them anymore, that we could just visit the dad in the retirment home at some time during the day.  what a releif, i have thrown up before family gatherings with his family for years now.  they are very controlling with their anger.  if my husband doesnt do what dad wants when dad wants, the rest of the family comes to yell at you.  when they call, it isnt, hello, how are you, its PUT MY BROTHER ON NOW, like i am a secretary or something for him, or an inconvenient person to wade through.  even though i have a dual degree, its not good enough for them.  i work from home, so thats not work, even though i make more than my husband, and, he earns about 27$ per hour.  i make more than the daughter that is a teacher, and, the brother  in law who works in a hostpital, and, yet, its nothing, because i dont do a fancy title or pay for an office.  i made this decision when our daughter was born, and, have not regretted it once.  but, its no good, their SON, could have married a nurse, or some other respectable woman, who,'KNOWS HER PLACE" that is silent, compliant, and, with a womanly career.  eghads,,,,,have i time warped.  my husband is to the point where he is appologetic about them, and, the way that they act, finally, but, the lure of the almighty dollar keeps him there, his dad has a fair size bank account, and, my husband doesnt want to be cut out of the will.  money, is his families chief love, they thinkt that its the most important thing in the world, (if they really think that they should love me,,,,but,,,,sadly,,,lol)  i dont care about it.  i think that money means nothing, and, that we could just have a good bonfire with it.  they enjoyment of roasted weenies would be preferable.  my husband says that his dad will pass on soon, then we wont have to deal with any of them any more, nice huh???  he is just seemily waiting for ole dad to die, to get the money, yuck,,,,this whole thing sounds confusing and convoluted.  i cannot seem to make any sense of it.  i am not expecting my husbands birth family to like either myself or, our daughter, but, i do expect courtesy, basic human humane courtesy.  so,,,,anyone have any ideas, because i am no good at ignoring wrongs, and, i do love my money grubbing husband.  when he is outside of their nasty influence, he is the sweetest most generous guy in the world.  how do i know this? (i didnt bother to tell him that i had saved my money when we met, i played poverty, and, he didnt say a word when i spent his entire cash savings for the hell of it, he just smiled at me, said it was cool, and, that we would always be fine (kind of counter acts his attitude about his dads money, but, maybe he thinks its his due for putting up with the abuse)_)  and, yes, i put my savings in a joint account to make up for testing him,,,,mean of me, but, after seeing his family at work, i just had to make sure i wasnt going to have a child with some one who was totally like them..okay, vent done, any thoughts?
 
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January 29, 2008, 7:39 am PST

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Hello all,

 

Would love all the input I could get on this.  Before christmas my husband and I had set a limit for the christmas gifts to our daughter and our son and his family.  We were going to buy my son and his wife a TIVO and our twin granddaughters a portable dvd player for the car.  They are 2 1/2.  After discussing this with our son and daughter in law I was called several days later by my dil who requested that we not buy what we had intended and please buy our son a peice of safety equipment used for 4 wheeler racing.  This safety device was 399.00.  Our limit was 400.00 for the family.  She said that this is what the girls would really like since they would not know no different and this would be the best gift we could give her and the girls since he races frequently as this protects him from breaking his neck if something horrible was to happen.  I told her if we did this, this would be it.  No other presents for any of them.  She said over and over again this would be fine. She also wanted it to be a surprise.  I then called my husband and asked him what he thought and he thought it was a great idea.  We ourselves were often concerned with his safety doing this sport.  From there on it was between him and the dil.  I had talked to my son several days before christmas and he seemed distance.  I told my husband something is up.  He did not think so. Come christmas day our son usually calls, but did not.  So, I called him and he was very upset that I had not gotten the girls anything.  I explained the agreement me and his wife has came to, and he really did not care. He was hurt that we has not gotten the girls anything for christmas, I told him yes we did we gave them your safety when you race and that is what we were told to do.  We got off the phone and 4 days went by without us hearing from him so I called and said I feel there is bad blood can we talk.  He said yes and the conversation I thought was good, even though it started out bad.  His wife had said that during one of the conversations with my husband that he said he would see to it that the girls had something to open. He denied saying it.  It's a he said she said situation.  I told my son we were sorry, did not mean to hurt his feelings and he said he did not accept my appology.  We live 13 hours from him, and he said there was more reasons he was upset.  Upset that we did not call the girls on halloween and that we did not contact the girls thanksgiving even though we talked to him on the phone as he was heading home from her families thanksgiving. He also thinks that we should drive 13 hours to see them for the weekend.  He also feels that we should go there for the holidays, that is what all grandparents do now.  The grandparents go to the kids not the kids to the grandparents house. I told him I thought his expectations were to high and that I was trying the best I could for living so far away.  I have sent the girls alot of gifts that were not associated with holidays or birthdays.  After this lengthy conversation our son refuses to take our phone calls or talk to us.  His wife has mention to a mutual friend that we did not get the girls nothing for christmas without telling her the whole situation,  leaving her to wonder why would we do something like this.  I called this mutual friend and told her the complete story, the next day I get a call from my dil yelling at me, telling me she never wanted to speak to me again or see me.  Called me bitchy called me sick, called me crazy, Told me I was full of drama, and said I needed to back off or I was going to loose my son for life. I told her we only did what she wanted us to do for christmas, she said I was a horrible grandmother and that this is not her fault, and I was not going to throw it up in her face that this was her doing on the gift. I said, it is your fault and why are you so angry.  After more ranting on the phone she hung up on me.  And still my son will not answer our phone calls.

 

My daughter was in town for christmas and texted her brother some not so nice texts concerning his conversation with me.  I was not a part of that and I told her I did not approve.  She was just protecting us and did not go about it the right way.  She is young and has alot to learn. She since has appologized for her actions.  I don't think he has forgiven her for that either.

 

If I had to do it all over again i would not of agreed to do what my dil asked.  It was a huge mistake.  I have told my son that.  It has gotten me know where with him..  Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

When I read your message, it's hard to figure out exactly what went wrong here.  I can tell you have the same feeling, and I think it's justified.  From what's in your post, your son's and DIL's reactions seem disproportionate.  And the tone of your post, you sound level-headed about it, you don't sound like you're harboring unspoken resentment for your DIL, which can be the real root of problems. But I don't get that sense here.  Have you had issues in the past? 

It does seem like they wanted you to buy the safety equipment, but just took for granted you would still buy a gift for the kids, too.  Which that seems a little presumptious and spoiled.  You did say this year you told your daughter & son you were capping gifts expenses....does that this is different than in the past?  Maybe that's where this is coming from???  It might just take a while for them to get used to it if this is a change. 

I understand you wanting to call the mutual friend to explain your point of view...but I think you might have been better off not doing that -- unless this person brought it up to you and you had an opening to discuss it.  I know you felt the need to defend yourself.  I suspect my MIL tells people I'm mean to her, but doesn't tell things she says to me! I hate it, but....even though it seems wrong, a person does have a right to vent their version to their friends.  Unless she is absolutely spreading vicious lies about you, which it doesn't seem she was.  Just my 2 cents on that and probably why she proceeded to call you full of drama, etc.

I admire that you told your daughter to stay out of it, I agree that was the right thing for you to do. 

As far as visiting at their house....I know that grandparents like to have people come to them.  Mine were that way, and my parents prefer that now, too.  At first, they came here mostly because I had so many babies it was so much easier.  Now that my kids are a little older we mostly go to there house now (but they live closeby!).   It is hard to travel w/ lots of little kids, and twins are particulary hard, I have a set that's  years old.  In another year or so, the twins will be a little easier to handle for going out, if that's been their problem.

It sounds to me, too, that their expectations are a little high.  But also, as a parent, I have gone through the period where you realize more that the world doesn't actually revolve around your children; when you have the only grandkids (and twins garner extra attention) it feels that way when they're babies everyone is interested and involved. It's kinda disheartening but it's reality as the kids grow a little, everyone elses life goes on.  Howoever, I suggest you NEVER say that to your son or DIL!  LOL!  I'm just saying maybe they're  entering this transition in their own journey as parents. 

As far as where do you go from here.....the only thing I can think of is to call, if they don't pick up, leave a message.  Something like "I'm sorry we have hurt your feelings. (don't passively get into whether it's justified by wording it "sorry your feelings were hurt").  We love you and the grandkids.  Please let us know what we can do to move forward. We miss you so much."   Maybe that will open a dialogue.  What do you think??  This sounds a tricky situation.

 
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January 29, 2008, 7:56 am PST

He's proud and that's okay

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 hi all after reading about the terrible MIL I have worried myself.My daughter and I have always been very close.When she left for school she was the one in tears not me when she had to go and come.Of course I was sad to see her go also but she was a homebody and moved back home after school.She  married and wanted to have a house .Her husband worked at the steak house my husband helped get him a job at an area plant with great benifits making $28.an hour we also paid thousands to help get them in a new house and to furnish it with a new $1500.w&D and $1200 side by side fridge.We wanted our daughter to be happy.We also paid for her new honda when she went to collegethat she quit one sem.before finishingShe wrecked the honda which we paid to have fixed but she never took it in to the shop to have it done.She wanted expensive wedding pix.So she got them But she never followed up with the photog to pick up the pkg and has lost the recipt so she doesn't know what was included in her pkg or the photog phone number to call and ask him.They have 2 dogs that have crapped all over the floor and you can go next week and the same crap will be in the floor so I paid my house keeper $150.to clean their house before the baby came home.They wanted a baby shower so I gave a baby shower I also wrote all the thank you notes.As I did for their wedding gifts.They wanted baby furniture and all the trimmings from Pottery Barn You guessed it,it is in their nursery now.Then the day the baby was born SIN starts we don'need you for any thing this is our baby we want to do this on our on without anybody else.Like it was a mantra  So for 2 years it was fine to need me just fine but now "we don't need any one anymore"When I asked him if he didn' think my daughter may need help after c-cection and high bp and sick baby he told me to butt out of their life or I would be banned from their life.I have never been more shocked in my life.Of course he ate the food I brought and took the $60 pkg of diapers I took and my husband had just gone to the hosp. and loaded their junk and brought it back to their house.I am walking on eggshells.alk about blurred boundries help!!!!   I am afraid the relationship with my daughter will never be the same

Okay, maybe you have done too much, as these people are adults.  Do you see what I mean?  But it sounds like the dad / your SIL wants to change this dynamic and that's A GOOD THING!  If he realizes maybe they've been a little too accepting of help when maybe they should've been finding a way to make it work within their own means, kudos to him.  What I really hear here is that he wants to change the dynamic and he's stepping right up and just saying I want to provide for my family.   

Please, please I urge you do not take this personally.  I think he wants to really grow up and act as a grown man.  Do not be offended, it really isn't about you it's about him realizing he needs to change. Praise him for this.   "I know you don't need any help.  You are a great man and you will provide for your family."  I also kindly suggest that you don't be offering money and help w/ various things, because that can come w/ an implication of 'I notice you arent' providing somehtng that I think is needed, so here I'll pick up your slack and provide it for you'.   Even if you don't mean it like that I bet that's what he'll feel.   I think you can still help them by saying "oh, we want to bring a gift, do you have any ideas?"   That takes the pressure of it a little.

I really think he is just trying to step up and establish himself as the man of the house to provide for his family, instead of relying so much on his wife's parents.  And he SHOULD do that.   Do not take it personally "oh, they don't need me anymore".   Find a new way to support them by praising how good they are doing, praise their efforts, etc.  You will endear yourself to them and reap the benefits for years to come, I am telling you.  You want to be someone they WANT to be around, you can do this.  Please, do not look at this as "they don't need me anymore because they're not dependant on me anymore."   They need you in a new way now, you can step up and proide that or you can turn bitter. Dr Phil talks about crossroad moments, and I truly, strongly feel you are at one now.

I hope this helps in some way.

 
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Okay, maybe you have done too much, as these people are adults.  Do you see what I mean?  But it sounds like the dad / your SIL wants to change this dynamic and that's A GOOD THING!  If he realizes maybe they've been a little too accepting of help when maybe they should've been finding a way to make it work within their own means, kudos to him.  What I really hear here is that he wants to change the dynamic and he's stepping right up and just saying I want to provide for my family.   

Please, please I urge you do not take this personally.  I think he wants to really grow up and act as a grown man.  Do not be offended, it really isn't about you it's about him realizing he needs to change. Praise him for this.   "I know you don't need any help.  You are a great man and you will provide for your family."  I also kindly suggest that you don't be offering money and help w/ various things, because that can come w/ an implication of 'I notice you arent' providing somehtng that I think is needed, so here I'll pick up your slack and provide it for you'.   Even if you don't mean it like that I bet that's what he'll feel.   I think you can still help them by saying "oh, we want to bring a gift, do you have any ideas?"   That takes the pressure of it a little.

I really think he is just trying to step up and establish himself as the man of the house to provide for his family, instead of relying so much on his wife's parents.  And he SHOULD do that.   Do not take it personally "oh, they don't need me anymore".   Find a new way to support them by praising how good they are doing, praise their efforts, etc.  You will endear yourself to them and reap the benefits for years to come, I am telling you.  You want to be someone they WANT to be around, you can do this.  Please, do not look at this as "they don't need me anymore because they're not dependant on me anymore."   They need you in a new way now, you can step up and proide that or you can turn bitter. Dr Phil talks about crossroad moments, and I truly, strongly feel you are at one now.

I hope this helps in some way.

 your  post really did help with with valuable advice the only thing is the blurred boundries.All of the "things"were given at their request originally and he continues to push away with one hand while taking with the other.It is easy to say things in the heat of the moment that are offensive I did not take it as they don't need me any more I felt very under appreciated up until now.The bank of grandma is closed I have been wanting to redo my kitchen for a year  but my  daughters needs have come 1st.I have been and will continue to be supportive to their young family.They want and expect me to babysit  for free when my daughter goes back to work.So I feel pushed and pulled.I also do not feel I have done nothing to justify being banned from their family  and can't believe he spoke for my daughter.I would like to tell her if she wants me banned from her life she will have to tell me not her husband.That would be so unfair of me to do that to her but I can not believe she had any part of that after all of the history she and her father and I have been thru .I totally know this is not a time for more discussion he is feeling very threatened and does not want any one to mess up his ideal life that he has imagined for his wife and baby He is too short sighted to see helped get that life for him.I will always be there for my daughter and my g'daughter I will also admit I probally said or did things that were not smart at the timeBut I never said hateful things or told anyone they would be disowned.
 
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