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Topic : 12/26 The Nanny Affair, Part 1

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(Original Air Date: 09/12/07) Affairs, fights, lies and dark secrets are tearing a family apart. Brandon and Amy have been married for 2 1/2 years and have three children. One year into their marriage, Brandon was caught having an affair with their teenage nanny. Was she the only one, or did he cheat with others? The couple's tumultuous relationship reached a breaking point when Amy, who said she feared for her life, obtained a restraining order against Brandon. What led him to file divorce papers?  Then, five months into the proceedings, their relationship reignited. Why did Amy let Brandon back into her life? Amy's parents and her ex-best friend, Heidi, say Amy's heading down the road to disaster. So why do they doubt Brandon's recent revelations? And, why does Brandon say Amy's ruining his reputation? Talk about the show here.

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September 13, 2007, 12:27 am PDT

09/12 The Nanny Affair, Part 1

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 This guy is completely ridiculous -- so immature, uncaring, and will not accept his responsibility in all this.  He keeps deflecting the questions.  His wife is the worst, though.  How STUPID do you have to be to see this kind of behavior over and over and still believe he might change?  She needs a lot of help.  I feel bad for her friend, who is obviously trying to help open her shut eyes.  The guy is a CAD.  Plain and simple.  This one is driving me crazy!  WAKE UP LADY.  YOU MARRIED A JERK.
You feel sad for her friend???  You've got to be kidding.    The husband sounds like a real loser, but what is the friend doing living there?  She sounds like a butinsky.  I'm surprised Dr. Phil didn't tell her to shut up.
 
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September 13, 2007, 12:43 am PDT

NANNY/HUSBAND AFFAIR

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This is what i think, and saw of the couple, they love each other dearly, but along the way the fire in them is blowing out, and he probably tried to talk to her about it but ignored it, who knows what happened in that marrage, thier still both new to it all. They both need a marage councillor, and get ride of the friend, she is a trouble maker. She is throwing gasoline to the fire and making things worse. The ex-friend should get a life of her own. They both want the help, and are seeking it, Dr. Phil should have an open mind to this all, there are two stories to it not just one. Yes he admits to having an affair, and now they need counciling. Cause they do want to save their marrage, because we all make mistakes no one is perfect, we are only human.
 


           THE BIBLE TALKS OFTEN ABOUT FORGIVENESS.  BUT, IS IS VERY CLEAR ON CHRONIC ADULTERY IF THERE  ISN'T ANY REPENTANCE. HE NEVER SHOWED LOVE OR PROTECTION TOWARDS HER. THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON SINCE 1999. BOTH THE EMOTIONAL, PHYSICAL AND DON'T LET'S NOT FORGET THE ADULTERY. THE PREVIEWS SHOWED THAT TOMORROW DR. PHIL IS GOING TO HAVE HIS HANDS FULL AGAIN!.
YOU SEEM TO HAVE A WARM AND LOVING HEART. REMEMBER THEM IN YOUR PRAYERS TONIGHT.GOD ANSWERS THE PRAYERS OF THOSE WITH EMPATHETIC HEARTS!!

SINCERELY,
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September 13, 2007, 1:11 am PDT

NANNY/HUSBAND AFFAIR

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I felt the the same way about Heidi.  I kept thinking to myself what is going on with her. I have a friend that is going through a cheating husband right now.  He wants to leave and she wants things to work out with them.  (I have my own opinions of cheating men) I told her I loved her I understood what she is going through I would be there for her no matter what she decided.  That is not how a true friend treats a friend that is hurting.  Something just does not fit here.

 

 

 
       I READ YOUR COMMENT AND I HAVE TO WONDER IF HEIDI IS NOT SERIOUSLY CO- DEPENDENT
 
     
        OR MAYBE SOMETHING DID GO ON BETWEEN BRANDON AND HEIDI IN THE PAST THAT SHE IS       EXTREMELY ANGRY AND VENGEFUL OVER.  HE HAS TO MAKE YOU THINK...

 
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September 13, 2007, 1:28 am PDT

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Trying to figure out the truth from this guy is equivalent to splitting hairs on a dead horse.  He has no integrity with himself, and that is no kind of person to try to partner a lifelong stability and journey with. 

 

If he were serious about counseling and the life-changes that he needs to make, he would be going on a regular frequency of at least once per week with additional group meetings.  It would be a large part of his life, and he would show commitment to it.  He is rather flippant about his efforts, and is very arrogant about being accountable for his time and effort.  This tells me he takes not only others but his own time and effort lightly, and it is just motions with no earnest intent.  He is obviously very immature and emotionally and cognitively incapable of an honest relationship.  He seems to be telling stories in order to make a believable facade, to tell people what he thinks they want to hear.

 

He has already destroyed all that was good in his life, and he is now seeing that what he has to lose is much more inconvenient to him than trying to salvage what remains and live the charade.  He is willing to admit only enough to make him appear accountable without taking full responsibility for his behavior.  He redirects conversation to shift blame and attention away from his culpability. His case and personality is very similar to the rash of fathers who killed their wives and families in the spring of 2007 in order to "be free" and get out of paying child support.  It is only a matter of time and his ability to sneak around when he acts out and gets caught again.  He would rather lie to his wife and make her entire life a lie for his own vile convenience.

 

Shall we list them?  Lacey Peterson is one...

 

This woman is being totally blind and deaf to the blaringly obvious signs that this guy is a sociopath willing to risk the sanctity and lives of others to indulge his carnal and narcissistic sicknesses, and then be able to live with himself and expect forgiveness without empathy.  He is in denial about many acts that he is only alluding to, he is a liar about things he has admitted and things he will not, and he is sick in many ways.  For anyone to discuss how he would kill and dispose of a person is a premeditation of a violent homocidal act which has yet to occur.  She is in danger in my opinion, and it is only a matter of time before he totally unravels.  Children, marriage, and family are a lifelong labor of love which fewer people are capable of, and some should never consider because they are too sick and will never have the capacity or the will.

 

Narcissism and his other aberrant personality traits are not conducive to fatherhood or husbandhood, and will  be a lifelong battle for him even when he decides to take his illness seriously and do something about it for real.

 

All he has really done is figured out how to tell a good story and put up a facade that is good enough to fool the one person whose decision matters ultimately in the direction his life will take.

 

No matter what he says or does now, any man who is capable of cheating on a wife at all, let alone within months of having their baby, while she is recovering from a car accident and surgeries, is sick, unstable, unprepared and incapable of participating as a husband and father in the reality of a marriage, or in reality at all.  What he did is a direct reflection of what he is inside, and he is a vacuous, heartless sexual predator and opportunist. 

 

She is young, beautiful, a wonderful caring mother with a great family and friends who DEARLY care about her, and she can much more easily move on and be her best without him rather than struggle through a trying and destructive relationship with his sicknesses.  I hope she can accept the futility of this guy and move on cleanly, and be in deep and genuine connection with her family and friends and raise those children in the best way.  Men these days are warped by the many sexually deviant influences and sexual entitlement that persists in this culture, and it is best to stay away from those that exhibit any of these signs. In the distant future, after she balances her life to focus on her children and her wellness, she may find a man in her life.  Believe me, a life without men is much more fulfilling than trying to be in a relationship with a bad, lying man.  She should divorce him and work on herself as an independent woman and mother and live like there is nothing else to want.

 

There are so many guys like him out there, it is really a social disease beyond the scope of this show.  If that is any consolation to her, she should find strength in the numbers of other women who have had to make similar choices.  There is a lot of support for her in her family and friends.  But she should always protect herself, because these kind of guys are the ones who take revenge and take the lives of the women and children they want to control for their own needs.



         I READ YOUR COMMENTS AT 4/20 AM AND IT WAS REALLY WORTH MISSING THE SLEEP OVER.
         I PRAY OUT OF THE HUNDREDS THAT SHE SOMEHOW READS YOURS. I'M AFRAID SHE LACKS AT         THIS MOMENT WHAT IT TAKES TO REALLY TUNE IN TO IT AND GET THE HEALING THROUGH THE
     MESSAGE.
     I'M GLAD YOU TOOK THE TIME TO SHARE WISDOM YOU HAVE BEEN BLESSED WITH IN YOUR LIFE.

     SINCERELY,
     NANCYTB
 
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September 13, 2007, 1:31 am PDT

Was the nanny raped?

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 Yes since the wife saw her husband give drugs to the nanny, and the nanny said he raped her , is anyone listening? I think Dr Phil should contact the girl and get her some help, she will need it. I know, when I was 15 I was babysitting and the mother gave me pills what I thought were asprin, and when I couldnt move he raped me, and threatened me with a gun.
Why didn't Dr. Phil insist that this guy do a LIE DETECTOR TEST to get to the truth?  If he is a rapist it needs to be known.  Especially if he is saying other things that sound threatening and violent, like threatening to kill someone.
 
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September 13, 2007, 1:37 am PDT

NANNY/HUSBAND AFFAIR

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What kind of idiot has a kid like that being a nanny to her kids?  I can see teens babysitting for a couple of hours, but a nanny?  Yes, that's what I want.....a teenager being a nanny taking care of my babies.
                            



                                 AMEN SISTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
                                 WHAT COULD SHE BE THINKING!!!!!!!!

 
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September 13, 2007, 1:42 am PDT

09/12 The Nanny Affair, Part 1

The Fireman is a lier.  No I would not trust anything he has to say.  Not even five minutes into the show he is caught red handed with a bold face lie.  Heidi does not have anything to do with this marriage.  She really should stay out of it.  No it is not her business.  She is asking her best friend to choose.  Bad idea.  If she truly is a good friend she would let her friend know she is here for her no matter what.  Getting back to this messy marriage....I don't like Brandon.  Nanny #1 is accusing him of rape!!!!!!!!!!!! Others are testifying to sexual harassment or admitting to sleeping with him.  What is wrong with Amy????????  What does she need to kick this dog to the curb?????????????   Sometimes people just don't get it.  I am frustrated with this show....where is this mess going?

 
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September 13, 2007, 5:13 am PDT

Nanny Affair

Quote From: hairy65

You are right the red head need to butt out. It sounds like she is jealous of her friends family.

But also the man needs to grow up accept his role in what is happening. Quit blaming others for his mistakes. He had the affair and will again. He more than likely came on to the friend. He protest to much in not liking her, finding her ugly. That is usually a sign that they are covering up an attraction. The wife had better watch the 2 of them and find out what really happened between the 2 of them. I hink they had an affair and are trying to hide it. Trying to hard that is, not liking each other, most times hides an attraction.

 I feel you may have hit the nail on the head.  My initial thoughts were on my own experience. But I like your take on this matter.
 
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September 13, 2007, 5:43 am PDT

not fully cooked!

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How can you say that all teens are "good for NOTHING"

I have cared for children for around three to four years and I am only 17.

I have had no complaints and it sickens me that anyone would discriminate against people due to age.

You need to grow up. Teenagers may be able to take better care of children than you are.

Oh and another thing is that I am Certified to babysit and have babysat for a 5, 2, and 5 month old and people trust me.

As with anyone, some people are more or less intelligent than others,but no teenager is "fully cooked",so they should NOT be expected to function as an adult in ANY aspect. There are MANY "good" teenagers just like there are MANY good adults. Any parent should use their good judgement when looking for someone to help with their precious children.  To lump all teenagers into one cadagory by saying they are  "all no good"  is a very narrow minded, ignorant remark.  EML NJ
 

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September 13, 2007, 5:55 am PDT

09/12 The Nanny Affair, Part 1

heidi seems to be catching a lot of flack on here.. man! however, i disagree to an extent. I think Heidi is really trying to be a good friend and is honestly scared of what Brandon is capable of towards his wife and children. However, it seems her  pleas with her friend is falling on deaf ears. I believe that she had made the right decision to take herself out of the equation prior to the show and not call, go see her, no text messaging.. nothing. You never know, he could go crazy and come after Heidi blaming her for his marriage problems..he seems to blame everyone but himself for everything else. "She was coming on to ME"...well last time i checked when you're married you have a duty to your spouse and children to have enough of a brain to say "STOP! I am married, and you need to go pack your stuff and get out." As far as the wife goes, if i had seen my husband place ANYTHING in another woman's mouth  especially a pill... UH HELLO? that's a little over the line of being inappropriate. I think she needs to take her blinders off and take advantage of having a good friend and obviously loving parents that are there to support her and ditch that lying piece of trash.
 
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