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Topic : 12/26 The Nanny Affair, Part 1

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Created on : Friday, September 07, 2007, 03:33:20 pm
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(Original Air Date: 09/12/07) Affairs, fights, lies and dark secrets are tearing a family apart. Brandon and Amy have been married for 2 1/2 years and have three children. One year into their marriage, Brandon was caught having an affair with their teenage nanny. Was she the only one, or did he cheat with others? The couple's tumultuous relationship reached a breaking point when Amy, who said she feared for her life, obtained a restraining order against Brandon. What led him to file divorce papers?  Then, five months into the proceedings, their relationship reignited. Why did Amy let Brandon back into her life? Amy's parents and her ex-best friend, Heidi, say Amy's heading down the road to disaster. So why do they doubt Brandon's recent revelations? And, why does Brandon say Amy's ruining his reputation? Talk about the show here.

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September 13, 2007, 6:17 am PDT

You're Right

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You are right...she is not innocent. You have a good radar.
Amy is certainly not innocent and as always, there are two sides to every story.  Somehow here, however; there are three!  Heidi needs to get a life and stay out of theirs.  Brandon by no stretch is a victim here...what he did was dead wrong but why didn't they bring up any of Amy's past?  She isn't innocent either, however she's being made out to be.  Heidi's past makes no difference whatsoever and frankly if I were Dr. Phil, I'd tell her point blank to but out.  Perhaps today's episode will enlighten us more.
 

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September 13, 2007, 6:47 am PDT

What a con job

            Speaking as a guy,Brandon is really full of it.There were some remorseful words about talking to Daddy about what kind of man he wanted to be mixed in with what I thought was therapeutic psychobabble about how he was examining his past and trying to find the root cause of his behavior.What load of crap!Dr Phil read some of the messages from viewers watching the show,and I fully agreed with the person that said,"Tell her YOU ARE MARRIED."Also tell her that conversation is inappropriate for her to make to you as an 18 year old nanny,and that on the basis of that you question her maturity to care for your kids.If she did  make the first move and do something of a sexual nature to him he should have told his wife and fired the nanny.18 year olds aren't hard to impress,dude.Don't use her immaturity as your excuse.
 
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September 13, 2007, 7:10 am PDT

09/12 The Nanny Affair, Part 1

Brandon is an immature prick. All he cares about is getting his point across and looking like the good guy. There is nothing genuine about this man. Not even five minutes into the show he wastes his energy bickering with Heidi just to prove himself and that just shows that he's still as hot-tempered as he was. I don't believe Brandon will ever change and I think that Amy should just save herself from him rather than try to 'work out her marriage." There's not much of a marriage to work out.
 
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September 13, 2007, 7:23 am PDT

Counseling for all!!

I'm no therapist but it seems to me that all three of these people need counseling.  I sincerely hope that Dr. Phil muzzles Heidi for Part II.  She's really annoying with all of her interuptions.  I understand that she's loyal to and supportive of Amy, but good grief!!  She needs to butt out and maybe ask herself why she's so emotionally vested in this marriage that  is not hers.

Brandon seemed to be lying and trying to keep his story straight - and failing miserably.  Just own up to what happened and move on.  If he's really changed then prove it.  He needs to be a man and admit what (and all) that he's done...accept the consequences of his actions and go forward.  He should continue counseling (like he says he has) or if  he's  stopped, say so and start back again.

Amy has some issues as well that she needs to address.  Brandon mentioned an affair -sounds like this couple has been in trouble for awhile now. 

And what is with all the pain pill taking between the two of them?  That can surely cloud your judgement as well as make communication pretty difficult.

As for the nanny, I don't care if she paraded  half naked, he still could have said 'no.  I know, I know, she's legal at 18 but that doesn't mean she has the knowledge and experience to make good decisions. And if he did indeed drug her, he should be in jail.

Part II shouldbe interesting....

 

 
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September 13, 2007, 7:30 am PDT

Please use Spell Check!

I wish the people on these boards would learn how to spell.
 
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September 13, 2007, 7:37 am PDT

Too Many Cooks In This Kitchen

  Although I believe Brandon is a liar and a cheater.... I  also believe that the best friend needs to get out of their home and  out of their marriage...and stay out!!  It is very obvious she has nothing but contempt for her best friend's husband...with good reason...BUT could it also be there is some jealousy because her best friend's attententions are now focused on family first? (pardon the pun, Dr Phil)  I am in no way condoning what Brandon has done . but if he is sincere in his words of trying to change, his actions will eventually either prove or disprove it.  However, the marriage stands zero chance of getting back on track as long as there  are friends and family who are way tooooo personally involved.  I think both people in this marriage need to grow up and realize it is NOT about them any more...it is about the kids.

 

As Princess Di once said of her marriage.. "There were three people in this marriage."

 

It is time for the best friend to stay out of their lives...

 

Brandon needs to get counseling...and lots of it before Amy even begins the slightest consideration of a reconciliation....as well as counseling together.  Then and only then, can the process of healing and reconciliation begin.

 

 

 
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September 13, 2007, 7:59 am PDT

I was offended for you

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How can you say that all teens are "good for NOTHING"

I have cared for children for around three to four years and I am only 17.

I have had no complaints and it sickens me that anyone would discriminate against people due to age.

You need to grow up. Teenagers may be able to take better care of children than you are.

Oh and another thing is that I am Certified to babysit and have babysat for a 5, 2, and 5 month old and people trust me.

I too think this absurd generalization is unfair and mean spirited.  Not all teenagers are immature and irresponsible.  And it sounds like you have taken the necessary steps to insure that you are capable of being trusted with someone's children.  I commend you for your character.

 

We have a 22-year-old daughter who at 18 would have also been more than capable of taking care of someone's children.  She has always been responsible and caring but she was far too involved at school and in sports to have the time to be a nanny.  As well we have taught her to have some self worth and know that she doesn't need the attention of an older, married man to feel good about herself.  This obviously wasn't the case with the 18-year-old nanny involved with this couple, unless of course these drugging accusations are correct. 

 

And frankly you and my daughter and the majority of her friends sound far more mature than any of the adults involved in this situation, including the best friend that is far too involved with her friend's marriage. 

 

I wish you great success in whatever you wish to achieve with  your life and know that not all of us adults feel the same as this stereotyping poster. 

 
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September 13, 2007, 8:20 am PDT

Focus on the Children Dr Phil

 Dr Phil...... Please focus on counseling & nurturing support for their children.  These 2 are so self-involved it's sickening.  I'm so disgusted by both of them after today's show that I vote to have her tubes tied & neuter that pathetic husband ASAP.  Yes I said neuter, not vasectomy.  What a sleaze!  I hope they have no more children & I hope the ones they have already can be healed from this kaotic unhealthy home life........... Look at the role models these innocent children have!!!!  WoW! 

Slamming the Nanny is ridiculous.  She's the only one willing to expose the dysfunction of that household.  I give kudos to the whistleblowers of this World. 

Thank you - Wendy/ Seattle WA
 
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September 13, 2007, 8:28 am PDT

09/12 The Nanny Affair, Part 1

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As with anyone, some people are more or less intelligent than others,but no teenager is "fully cooked",so they should NOT be expected to function as an adult in ANY aspect. There are MANY "good" teenagers just like there are MANY good adults. Any parent should use their good judgement when looking for someone to help with their precious children.  To lump all teenagers into one cadagory by saying they are  "all no good"  is a very narrow minded, ignorant remark.  EML NJ
What???!!!!! If you are taking a nanny into your home you have to expect some sort of formality and ethics... you are not "raising" another child!!!!!!! They are there to assist you with yours!  If they don't have the maturity and where -with- all to assist you with the tasks to run a sucessful home without the fear of a "attack" within your home; personally or financially; why are you hiring them???? You have to take some responsibility in it as well! This is a job and needs to be treated as such at ALL times and once the barriers are let down then YOU invite trouble in!  Think about it; a home is a huge responsibility and needs to be run like a business but with so much care and love when it comes to the children...  You can't have your third in command showing up to work in baby doll pjs! 
 

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September 13, 2007, 8:37 am PDT

I totally Agree

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I don't know what you mean by love and friendship should be "unconditional"?  So no matter what someone does, a friend should never offer an opinion about the behavior in question?  To me, a real friend should be honest, even when the truth hurts.  If I saw a friend killing herself with drugs or alcohol, I would say something.  And if the friend refused to deal with the problem, I would have to say to her "Look, I'm your friend and I love you, but I can't stick around and watch you hurt yourself this way anymore.  When you decide to deal with the problem, I will be there to support and help you 100 percent."

 

I'd react the same way if one of my friends was married to a man who cheated on her with the teenage nanny, and she continued to delude herself that he'd "change"!

I totally agree!!  I would do the exact thing if a friend of mine was staying with a guy who did what Brandon did.  She should have more respect for herself.  Going back to Brandon tells him what he did was OK and she'll forgive him.  Heidi is just trying to protect her!!
 
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