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Topic : 12/27 The Nanny Affair, Part 2

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Created on : Friday, September 07, 2007, 03:35:05 pm
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(Original Air Date: 09/13/07) The saga continues, as Dr. Phil brings you more of the affair that shattered the lives of a husband and wife and her best friend and parents. One year into his marriage, Brandon was caught cheating on his wife, Amy, with their teenage nanny. After fearing for her life, Amy filed a restraining order against Brandon, and he filed for divorce. But, their separation didn't last long. Amy decided to let Brandon back into her life, much to the dismay of her best friend, Heidi, and her parents, Cyndie and Mont. Why does Cyndie say she's scared of Brandon, and why does Mont say he doesn't believe a word Brandon says? Then, how are the kids faring during all of this chaos in the home? Heidi and Cyndie say they worry Brandon's discipline is over the top, but he says he's a loving father. What does Amy have to say? And, why does Dr. Phil question Brandon's sincerity to change? Is there hope this couple can save their marriage or should they call it quits once and for all? Tell us what you think!

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September 14, 2007, 10:33 am PDT

It's not hard to see ....

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Hard to say who the sick one in this relationship is...
Amy needs serious help if she thinks Brandon is going to change. Abusers NEVER change. I feel her children are at risk and child protective services ought to be stepping in right now. Who's taking care of those babies?
It is clear that Brandon is not over his "anger" issues, and "anger" is not the issue at hand here...abuse is.
I have to side with the friend and the parents on  this one, if Amy refuses to get out  ALL support should be cut off immediately.
Males like Brandon make me ill and women like Amy need a serious wake up call.
Brandon is a sick jerk and Amy condones it.  She's weak.  Heidi is her best friend  who doesn't want Amy (or her children) hurt by this man anymore.  Amy is just as repulsive as Brandon if she continues to let Brandon in her children's lives. 

What happened to the moms who would tear a man apart who dared hurt her children?  Amy made me want to puke when she admitted that she actually WATCHED Brandon hose her little girl down with cold water on a cold day. 

I don't buy the whole "Amy is so weak" defense though.  She certainly got dolled up enough to be on Dr. Phil.  She's reveling in Brandon wanting her back.  She doesn't deserve a friend like Heidi at all.
 
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September 14, 2007, 10:42 am PDT

Ugh

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Dear Brandon,

      You know me. We used to work together. I know there is good in you. I have seen it. I hope you will keep going. Just one foot in front of  the other. I don't think I can even compare with Dr. Phil, but for what it is worth, you and Amy should separate and find yourselves and your own dignity  and peace first, before trying to put this back together...if, that is ever a good idea. You both need this time alone.

     Dear Amy, you need this time too. Get out of that neighborhood and find your own space. Heidi is way too involved and you are the one who needs to put the stop to that. Just take a break. For now, Heidi only adds fuel to the fire...in the name of love. But the fire needs to be extinguished. If she is truely your best friend, then she will understand.

                  I will be praying for you both,

                      Redhelmetlady

Good Lord!  There's enough cliche and drama in that "letter to Brandon" to drive anyone batty.

"the fire neds to be extinguished"?????   wth??  Is that so Brandon will comprehend what you mean?

It's positively amazing that there are actually women out there who think Brandon is a victim. 

I'll repeat it again and again -- looks fade, cruelness stays.  Y'all are looking at Brandon because he think he's hot (He's so not) and you can't stand strong women.  It's a shame really.
 
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September 14, 2007, 10:43 am PDT

BRAVO

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While his problems were evident no amount of counseling is going to help that wife that appeared to be deaf, dumb AND blind! Her expression was a constant, wide-eyed, CLUELESS, denial stare. Even when she found out there were FIVE!...No reaction. Even when her husband said, "50/50!!!"...she did not react with fury as any other woman would of. He will justifiably be with ANYONE that gives him 50%! WAKE UP or you deserve exactly what you get. You allowed your husband to abuse your child with a water hose, because it was acceptable in the military??? You're the only person on this planet that believes children are IN the military. You don't deserve those precious children! Give them to the redhead!....Of the 3 of you, she was the only sane person on the stage! 
Bravo to you!  Perfect Perfect Perfect.  I could NOT have said it better!


 
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September 14, 2007, 10:46 am PDT

Are you serious??

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OMG!  You are so right!  I could not believe that she just kept running her mouth!  I personally believe she is making the situation much worse.  It seems as though she may be jealous of her friend and the more she keeps her down, the better she can feel about herself.  She definitely needs to go!
"Running her mouth"??? Is that what it's called when you've witness abuse?

Yeah, she's making Brandon's situation worse because  she calls it like she  sees it.

We're not just talking about  an AFFAIR!!!!  He is abusive and categorically denied it on stage.  That's why Heidi is so mad.  Wake up!
 
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September 14, 2007, 11:01 am PDT

He must have missed a couple of those therapy sessions!

This guy is selfish,immature and a jerk! He compartmentalizes and blames everyone but himself! Amy should have ditched him long ago! But Heidi tho a good friend needs to stay out of it! She is in way to deep in their biz'!!!
 
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September 14, 2007, 11:03 am PDT

people need to mind their own business

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Wait?  Brandon is abusing Amy - but you wanted to throw something at  Heidi?  Makes sense.

You were in an abusive relationship for 3 years and made it out alive?  Bravo.  But don't try to spin it and say that you neded their "silence" to listen to yourself.  That's complete and utter bs.

Your mamma was dead wrong.  Just ask Laci's mom (or Nicole's or Chandra's, etc.).  Awful advice!
how can you say that what worked for me is bs? i never felt the need to justify my relationship to others who were badmouthing me or defend my abuser which is so often the case in these situations. my point is this... there is nothing anyone can tell her that will make her do anything until she is ready to do it. if he is abusing her, she knows it. no one needs to tell her that. if he is cheating.. she knows it. no one needs to tell her that. you wanna bring up these other women. what's your point? people can talk until they are blue in the face and if a woman wants to stay with a man that is treating her wrong she is gonna stay. period.  
 
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September 14, 2007, 11:26 am PDT

Amy

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Brandon is a sick jerk and Amy condones it.  She's weak.  Heidi is her best friend  who doesn't want Amy (or her children) hurt by this man anymore.  Amy is just as repulsive as Brandon if she continues to let Brandon in her children's lives. 

What happened to the moms who would tear a man apart who dared hurt her children?  Amy made me want to puke when she admitted that she actually WATCHED Brandon hose her little girl down with cold water on a cold day. 

I don't buy the whole "Amy is so weak" defense though.  She certainly got dolled up enough to be on Dr. Phil.  She's reveling in Brandon wanting her back.  She doesn't deserve a friend like Heidi at all.
Amy isnt as weak as she wants everyone think she is. She has ganged up on her husband with Heidi and anyone else who would take her side. Brandon has some serious issues and he really needs help. Many people have said that Brandon is an abuser and they never change. Its very hard to change when everyone around you is saying you cant. I dont believe that it is wrong for Amy to believe in her husband. My father was very abusive for 12 years, but he did change. The last 11 years of his life he attended church and therapy and really was a devoted father and husband to us. My mother divorced him and it was like a wake up call. They started from scratch. He was out of the house for 3 years with no "sleepovers" only 2-3 hour visits. Brandon needs help. The only way he can is to work on one thing at a time. He has to fix his self before he can fix the relationship with Amy. Heidi is not wrong for not wanting her friend to be in an abusive relationship, however telling Amy that if she goes back to Brandon she wont be her friend anymore I do not agree with. Amy needs a true friend who advises her, not one who says do it my way or Im not talking to you anymore. Thats very selfish and childish. She loves her husband and wants to believe in him and that isnt wrong.
 
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September 14, 2007, 11:26 am PDT

Your attitude

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 If it came to life or death -- ultimatums are the last resorts.  Were you NOT listening???  Brandon is trying to control Amy NOT Heidi.  Oh wait!  is that ok because he's the husband?

If she were a true friend she'd make sure Amy didn't wind up in a wooden box.

Nice advice -- *shakes head*.  Wake up.

stinks.

 

I don't condone Brandon's behaviour.  I agree with Dr. Phil that they should be apart.  It is not ok for Brandon to cheat and lie and be cruel to Amy and the kids.  Sociopathic personalities are dangerous.  I didn't express this in my post, so I'm expressing it here.  It is also not ok for Brandon to control Amy.  She is a victim here - not only of Brandon but of her friend.

 

Heidi has her heart in the right place but I stick to my opinion that she is too interfereing.  She has given Amy the ultimatum that it is her husband or her friend.  If Amy chooses her husband, and she did, and once Heidi is gone, how can Heidi help her?

 

Please be more respectful in your posts if you disagree with someone's opinion, that would be appreciated.  Everyone deserves to be treated with dignity and respect, as Dr. Phil says - even people whose opinions are different from yours.  Sarcasm and ridicule are unbecoming to anyone.

 
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September 14, 2007, 11:47 am PDT

09/13 The Nanny Affair, Part 2

If Amy decides not to take dr.phil's advice to stay away from Brandon, until he gets better, then she deserves to be in hell, once again. She needs to think of her precious children.

 

If it were me, I wouldn't EVER take back that snake! 

 
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September 14, 2007, 11:53 am PDT

what the...

What the hell is wrong with these people.
He needs to keep it in his pants.
She needs to grow a set.
And the friend, Heidi ... what the hell right does she have to cut Amy off because she made a decision that Heidi doesn't agree with . Heidi acts like all of this is happening to her and not to her friend.
People like this should not be allowed to be on TV - all these people want is attention. Shame on Dr. Phil for putting trashy people like this on his show.
 
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