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(Original Air Date: 09/13/07) The saga continues, as Dr. Phil brings you more of the affair that shattered the lives of a husband and wife and her best friend and parents. One year into his marriage, Brandon was caught cheating on his wife, Amy, with their teenage nanny. After fearing for her life, Amy filed a restraining order against Brandon, and he filed for divorce. But, their separation didn't last long. Amy decided to let Brandon back into her life, much to the dismay of her best friend, Heidi, and her parents, Cyndie and Mont. Why does Cyndie say she's scared of Brandon, and why does Mont say he doesn't believe a word Brandon says? Then, how are the kids faring during all of this chaos in the home? Heidi and Cyndie say they worry Brandon's discipline is over the top, but he says he's a loving father. What does Amy have to say? And, why does Dr. Phil question Brandon's sincerity to change? Is there hope this couple can save their marriage or should they call it quits once and for all? Tell us what you think!

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mom2one2

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September 14, 2007, 8:52 am PDT

The Nanny Affair, Parts 1 & 2

Just a few random thoughts that I've had in watching the show and reading these posts:

1. Why is it OK for Heidi to call names (the devil incarnate) and justify it by saying that she only calls Brandon what he actually is, but when he responds in kind by saying that's why he calls her a whore, everyone jumps all over him? Name calling accomplishes nothing, so both are wrong!

2. Why does Amy seem so mentally & emotionally connected to Heidi? Is or was there more to their relationship than best friends, like maybe possibly a lesbian love affair?

3. Why has Heidi included herself in what is needed? WE need help, WE need to do what's best for the kids, SHE won't accept Amy taking Brandon back, etc., etc?

4. Does anyone else think that perhaps everyone's memories (not just Brandon's) are unclear due to the admitted (past...maybe even current) drug usage? Maybe he gave the nanny drugs, not necessarily forced them into her mouth? Seems as though there may have been some "recreational" use and sharing of their prescribed pain meds.

5. I know these boards are for opinions.......but why do so many posters feel that they have the knowledge and ability to diagnose the shows guests....as a sociopath, being bi-polar, narcissistic personality disorders, and various other behavioral disorders? Why not leave that part up to Dr. Phil, he's the PRO!

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dnavy2

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September 14, 2007, 9:03 am PDT

Loser

That's what this guy is, I feel bad for her because I believe she knows this but still wants him. He shook his head yes when Dr. Phil said that the two of them both truthfully know that he has had more than one affair, basically admitting to more silently than he would verbally. Yeah he cried at the end but that's because the truth hurts; I wish them the best and hope that the help Dr. Phil provides will work but I can't say that I think it will.

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rigid45

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September 14, 2007, 9:21 am PDT

2's a marriage, 3's a mess!

Heidi has no business being on the stage. She has overstepped the bounds of friendship.

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cheeryohs

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September 14, 2007, 9:28 am PDT

He hasn't changed

I was suprised that Dr. Phil only mentioned once to him that at the present time he still says it wasn't entirely his fault. I wished Dr. Phil could have pressed him more to think about that, to see if a light bulb would turn on in his head. If he still thinks the nanny was at fault and he's justifying it in this way then he hasn't changed. If he really wanted to work on his marriage he shouldn't even be talking about what the nanny may or may not have done and just about what he did and how he is 100% responsible for his own actions.

When Dr. Phil told him that 2 people knew there were more than one, the both of them and Brandon just nodded and said "uh huh", if I was his wife at that point I would have confronted him! If he was innocent of the other allegations he wouldn't have just sat there and agreed. I couldn't believe she sat there and said nothing.

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kd7bfn

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September 14, 2007, 9:49 am PDT

What's with Dr. Phil and Heidi?

WOW, I can't believe Dr. Phil sat there for 2 days and NEVER once told Heidi to SHUT UP AND GO HOME! This is like being married to two women. WHY was she allowed to be on stage at all? AND, why was she allowed free rein ... Dr. Phil never shut her up ... it seemed as though he was fascinated with her and lost all his objectivity! Maybe it was that Orange hair! She was a viscious element to the situation. I'm not supporting Brandon, but they will NEVER get back together unless Heidi steps out of the picture, PERMANENTLY.

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tiredmom01

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September 14, 2007, 9:58 am PDT

Amen Amen Amen

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1. The fighter is insecure, abusive, manipulative and a sociopath. He's with his wife because of the $$ she gets from her parents. That's why he chases the nannies and anything else resembling a woman.

2. The wife is spoiled, delusional and allowed her daughter to be abused. However, she is in no means just like her husband. She just needs to grow a backbone.

3. Heidi REJECTED the fighter when he made advances at her. You've got that one backwards.

I suppose Heidi *should* back out and just show up for the Amy's funeral.

All of you think that Heidi is being a "meddler" listen up ---

THE SPINE AND THE BRAIN ARE CONNECTED -- TRY USING THEM IN TANDEM!!!

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Bella

Yes Brandon does seem like a sociopath.

I think Heidi is emotionally drained. It is annoying to deal with a friend who is always dealing with her drama and it's even worse when it's the same drama over and over.

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pearlhanna

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September 14, 2007, 10:04 am PDT

Brandon is evil

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I was disappointed with Dr.Phil towards the end of the show I wish he would have been a little more stern with the husband.I believe his tears can be turned on and off.I do not feel sorry for him .I dont think he is sorry for what he has done only that he has been caught.I think he has serious issues.Drugging teenage girls shouldn't be taken lightly.I love Dr.Phil but I think he could've focused on the serious issues and his lies.

When I read the transcript, Brandon shot a nanny, put a welt and bruises on her leg. He thought that was funny. Geeze Louise; I mean Amy, what are you thinking?

Brandon, I think your perception of reality is scarey. Reading and watching you, I see an evil person. The nanny should sue you for the injuries. If I remember the brain is above the neck., Brandon you're using the head.

Amy you're an intelligent woman. Let's say Brandon returns, all is well and good...for a while, then the old Brandon will return, but worse blaming you FOR EVERYTHING. He knows he can get away with it; you take him back.

You will lose your parents support and respect. Heidi has her own life. Amy, Heidi cares a lot about you, don't let her or your parents down. STAY SAFE AND BE SMART!

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tiredmom01

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September 14, 2007, 10:05 am PDT

09/13 The Nanny Affair, Part 2

Quote From: mom2one2

Just a few random thoughts that I've had in watching the show and reading these posts:

2. Why does Amy seem so mentally & emotionally connected to Heidi? Is or was there more to their relationship than best friends, like maybe possibly a lesbian love affair?

3. Why has Heidi included herself in what is needed? WE need help, WE need to do what's best for the kids, SHE won't accept Amy taking Brandon back, etc., etc?

Do you really think it takes a degree to diagnose common sense? What knowledge is required to see someones behavior and call it like it is. Does that mean a person can't change? No. Bi-polar may be a bit far fetched but you are right, boards are for opinions. Even yours.

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suthernlady

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September 14, 2007, 10:10 am PDT

Sick and sicker

Hard to say who the sick one in this relationship is...
Amy needs serious help if she thinks Brandon is going to change. Abusers NEVER change. I feel her children are at risk and child protective services ought to be stepping in right now. Who's taking care of those babies?
It is clear that Brandon is not over his "anger" issues, and "anger" is not the issue at hand here...abuse is.
I have to side with the friend and the parents on this one, if Amy refuses to get out ALL support should be cut off immediately.
Males like Brandon make me ill and women like Amy need a serious wake up call.

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pearlhanna

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September 14, 2007, 10:12 am PDT

WRONG

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WOW, I can't believe Dr. Phil sat there for 2 days and NEVER once told Heidi to SHUT UP AND GO HOME! This is like being married to two women. WHY was she allowed to be on stage at all? AND, why was she allowed free rein ... Dr. Phil never shut her up ... it seemed as though he was fascinated with her and lost all his objectivity! Maybe it was that Orange hair! She was a viscious element to the situation. I'm not supporting Brandon, but they will NEVER get back together unless Heidi steps out of the picture, PERMANENTLY.

not true. Dr. Phil gestured to Heidi in Part 2. Dr. Phil's left hand (raised flat) asked her to be quiet.

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