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Topic : 12/27 The Nanny Affair, Part 2

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Created on : Friday, September 07, 2007, 03:35:05 pm
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(Original Air Date: 09/13/07) The saga continues, as Dr. Phil brings you more of the affair that shattered the lives of a husband and wife and her best friend and parents. One year into his marriage, Brandon was caught cheating on his wife, Amy, with their teenage nanny. After fearing for her life, Amy filed a restraining order against Brandon, and he filed for divorce. But, their separation didn't last long. Amy decided to let Brandon back into her life, much to the dismay of her best friend, Heidi, and her parents, Cyndie and Mont. Why does Cyndie say she's scared of Brandon, and why does Mont say he doesn't believe a word Brandon says? Then, how are the kids faring during all of this chaos in the home? Heidi and Cyndie say they worry Brandon's discipline is over the top, but he says he's a loving father. What does Amy have to say? And, why does Dr. Phil question Brandon's sincerity to change? Is there hope this couple can save their marriage or should they call it quits once and for all? Tell us what you think!

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December 27, 2007, 7:24 am PST

He is Hurting too

 Why did you have the girlfriend on? Marriage is between a husband and wife.  It seems that there was a strange relationship going on there.  She needed to be the one speaking not the girl friend.  Also He admitted he was wrong and yet you spent two days talking about it.  The parents are writing large checks every month so that she can drive a Mercedes? (Or whatever that expensive vehicle was).  I think they are a bunch of teenage acting people.  The wife was thriving on the turmoil along with her girl friend.  I wish I could have had a nanny......Actually no I don't I enjoyed raising our children.  However we didn't ask our parents for money.  I worked nights my husband worked days.  We took care of the children together.  The only good thing was in the end when Dr. Phil finally told the girl friend that he was not a demon and that he was hurting.  That marriage will never work until the girl friend gets out of the picture.  Have two people speaking again one is not a good thing.  He was backed up against the wall.  Also more could have been disgussed if you didn't repeat the same scenes and repeating the story over and over again.  She is willing to degrade herself and live in a poor moral situation and just keep chewing it over with the girl friend.  This has been going on since 1997 why would she stay in this life style???? So she doesn't have to work?  He's a fireman how can they live the way they live with that one salary?  I am not saying he is not at fault.... I am saying they are both at fault........   Girl Friend needs to get a life ....... why was she living with this?  That wasn't right either. 
 
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December 27, 2007, 7:29 am PST

Heidi needs to butt out!!!

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I love the show and hang on his every word - BUT - how could Dr. Phil allow that Heidi "friend" to sit there and make judgements and tell her girlfriend how to live her life?  Her attitude was clearly "do as I say or I will not be your friend."  Am I the only one who thinks that what they were discussing was NONE OF HER BUSINESS????????????

We agree with you. Both Amy and Brandon need counciling before or if they get back together. But, this is not a marriage of two but three. Heidi is not Amy's "friend", she is an "irritant". It was very clear that she is and has been against this marriage from the start. We were very surprised that Dr. Phil didn't tell her to "Butt Out" of this marriage and keep her opinions to herself. Heidi has very clearly infulenced Amy and her parents in a negative way toward Brandon.  Brandon clearly has issues that he needs to correct but Heidi doesn't want to help, she wants to control Amy, Brandon and the children. No marriage needs a "Friend" like Heidi.

 
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December 27, 2007, 7:36 am PST

Equal Fault

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Not that im sticking up for the guy, but i think her best friend has a thing for him. So when the friend found out that he had cheated with the nanny she got mad cause he wont give her the time of day.  The friend needs to step out of the scene and let them deal with it themselves.

I'm not sticking up for him either because he's definitely wrong for cheating! However how would she feel if the situation were reversed. Let one of his buddies run the marriage. Does she not realize how often men in uniform get approached by women.And why so many nannies after he cheated? Boot the "friend" (who adds to the problem because he wouldn't give her any) take care of your own kids and pay attention to him more. Marriage is for 2 people not a handful!!!!

 
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December 27, 2007, 7:42 am PST

Noone can make the decision but Amy

 I feel that this is Amy's life and everyone can say whatever they want on how they feel and what they would like to happen, but he truth of the matter is it's up to Amy.  Noone chose everybody else's relationship so dont choose hers.  And as far as the best friend I really think she is un-happy and she seems like she wants Brandon and that he might have turned her down and she is upset with that.  If you listen to her she is very very negative and then she might want Amy herself she needs to get a life of her own and get out of there business.

 
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December 27, 2007, 7:48 am PST

The Nanny Affair, Part 2

I was in the same relationship as this woman for over 20 years.  2 years ago I filed for divorce only knowing about 1 affair that was years earlier with my now 'ex' best friend of 7 years.  I loved him with all my heart. I was only 18 yrs old when I met him and am now 40.  Everyone thought we were the perfect couple.  I thought we were meant to be together.  On the outside, I thought he loved me and would never hurt me...on the inside, I lived with fear that I would lose my husband because even though he said he loved me, I Didn't FEEL It.

During the last 2 years, I checked into therapy and while he was trying to convince me he loves me, he confessed, after finding God, to 5 other women during the 1st 10 years of our marriage.  That's 6 women he confessed to and I had about 21 other names during and since then.  His phone still rings and he still lies about it being a guy from school when I could hear a female.  He doesn't own up to what he did because he says it's in the past even though he'd just dropped them in my lap.

I hope Amy realizes and her therapist tells her:  he's considered: "INCURABLE"!!!  They, the Incurables, Lie, Manipulate and emotionally blackmails you...THEY LIVE FOR THEMSELVES AND THEIR OWN SATISFACTION AT WHATEVER COST TO YOUR OWN WELL BEING AND WHO YOU ARE.

I went to court on December 19th, 2007, to get my divorce finalized.  He also made the comment about medical that Amy's husband made...the Judge ordered him to pay my medical insurance for 1 year, added Alimony and upped my child support and retirement portion of his military pay.

The day after I went to court, I questioned if I did the right thing by letting my husband go.  Thankfully, my best friend Jennifer, reminded me he would never Value me.  Only himself.  She made me look back and remember all the abuse and told me how strong I was and to move forward, that he could never change because he would only still be a Mirage of what I hoped he would be.

Amy, continue Therapy...Move Forward and Don't LQQk Back!!!  He doesn't deserve YOU!  He will never change...he's, like my ex husband, a wolf in sheep's clothing.  Don't waste 20 years like I did.  Learn from what you've gone through, rise up with your children and be the strong, beautiful woman that you ARE!

Sincerely,

Christine

 
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December 27, 2007, 7:49 am PST

listen to her!!

Heidi has a great point, and Amy should listen to her advice. She is just trying to help her because she cares for her.

 
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December 27, 2007, 7:55 am PST

12/27 The Nanny Affair, Part 2

What I think about all of this is, while people are so busy slamming Heidi, I think that she makes some very good points. I honestly think that she is showing her friend how to make good choices, etc, becuase Amy is too weak to stand up to Brandon, etc. And it's not just her against him, it's her parents, the nannies, etc. That makes what, 5 or 6 people against him? Plus there are possibly others that are against him, too. Think about it. Stop making excuses for this man for what he is doing to his wife & his family, & stop telling Heidi to butt out. There needs more stand up friends like her & the rest of them. As far as Heidi being in love with Brandon or Amy, I don't think that's the case, considering that she has known them for so long.
 

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December 27, 2007, 8:09 am PST

Get that friend out of that marriage!

I do beleive these two have issues, and need to concentrate on fixing them for their childrens sake, and if they want to stay together.

 

I am surprised that Dr. Phil didn't tell the "best Friend" to butt out. She is certainly crossing over her boundaries into their marrieage.  In no way should a wife recommend a friend to handle the finances, for example.

I think she can stay a friend to the wife, but she needs to remove herself from their marriage. The husband doesn't need to deal with her always being around.

 

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December 27, 2007, 8:10 am PST

12/27 The Nanny Affair, Part 2

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 I feel that this is Amy's life and everyone can say whatever they want on how they feel and what they would like to happen, but he truth of the matter is it's up to Amy.  Noone chose everybody else's relationship so dont choose hers.  And as far as the best friend I really think she is un-happy and she seems like she wants Brandon and that he might have turned her down and she is upset with that.  If you listen to her she is very very negative and then she might want Amy herself she needs to get a life of her own and get out of there business.

I agree. That friend needs to get out of htat marriage!
 
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December 27, 2007, 8:11 am PST

Brandon is a Sociopath.

Brandon is only interested in manipulatig others to get his own way.  The wife's friend told the whole story when she said Brandon didn't have a soul.  Sociopaths have no conscience, and no genuine feelings for anyone but themselves.  Like a true master manipulator, Brandon thinks if he admits one affair, it will make others believe him when he lies about everything else.  Sociopaths think they can fool anyone, which is why they often insist on taking the stand in criminal trials.  That's part of the reason Brandon agreed to appear on the show.  In addition, he relishes the chance to manipulate Dr. Pil and millions of viewers.  The public humiliation and disgrc mean nothing to him.  It's all about manipulation for Brandon.  He's a textbook example of a socipath and he's DANGEROUS. Look at the case in Canada of Paul Bernardo and his wife, Karla Homolka.  Paul was a sociopath that raped and/or killed over a dozen YOUNG women (usually with Karla's help), often using drugs and alcohol to sedate them.  Paul and Karla used this trick on Karla's own teenage sister, who died when things got out of hand.  Brandon reminds me a lot of Bernardo: he prefers young, inexperienced victims, he uses drugs to sedate his victims, he is cold, un-feeling, he lies even in the face of mouning evidence, and wants to manipulate and control anyone in his life  Good for Dr. Phil for stretching the show to a 2nd day; the more Brandon talks, the more his true nature wil become clear.  .  
 
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