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Topic : 12/27 The Nanny Affair, Part 2

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(Original Air Date: 09/13/07) The saga continues, as Dr. Phil brings you more of the affair that shattered the lives of a husband and wife and her best friend and parents. One year into his marriage, Brandon was caught cheating on his wife, Amy, with their teenage nanny. After fearing for her life, Amy filed a restraining order against Brandon, and he filed for divorce. But, their separation didn't last long. Amy decided to let Brandon back into her life, much to the dismay of her best friend, Heidi, and her parents, Cyndie and Mont. Why does Cyndie say she's scared of Brandon, and why does Mont say he doesn't believe a word Brandon says? Then, how are the kids faring during all of this chaos in the home? Heidi and Cyndie say they worry Brandon's discipline is over the top, but he says he's a loving father. What does Amy have to say? And, why does Dr. Phil question Brandon's sincerity to change? Is there hope this couple can save their marriage or should they call it quits once and for all? Tell us what you think!

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December 27, 2007, 9:28 pm PST

Her Friend

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Would love to know how this story turns out and what Phil was thinking, I think he was holding back.   They both need help -  I think the wife is a co-dependant by nature and that is why she is wobbling on whether to let him back or not.  Her head tells her no, her heart says yes.  But she cannot change her husband's behavior and he is doing and saying everything within his powers to convince her to take him back.   There is something definitely wrong with the boy .

 

 I think Dr. Phil hit the nail on the head when he said that Brandon has a distorted view on things as a result of his upbringing.  Can Brandon really change....?   I really want to know.

 

As far as her friend goes...she serves as a voice of reason to validate the wife doubts in taking Brandon back.  A true friend doesn't always tell you what you want to hear and risks losing the friendship as a result - that's the kind of friend I want around if I am having a crisis.  Especially when someone jokes to her that I may end up in a cement pillar if I don't shape up.  Hurray for wife's friend for looking out for her!

Lots of people are saying she should butt out. I see her as a passionate friend who simply is struggling to find the words to tell her friend to leave - she is too close to the situation to be effective with Amy. I think Heidi has great intentions, and truly cares for Amy and her childrens best interest. I don't see (or did I hear) Brandon talkin about the kids. He was busy throwing mud at Heidi. He is a joke.
 
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December 27, 2007, 9:43 pm PST

Brandon needs to get real with himself

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Lots of people are saying she should butt out. I see her as a passionate friend who simply is struggling to find the words to tell her friend to leave - she is too close to the situation to be effective with Amy. I think Heidi has great intentions, and truly cares for Amy and her childrens best interest. I don't see (or did I hear) Brandon talkin about the kids. He was busy throwing mud at Heidi. He is a joke.
Everytime Dr Phil, Amy, or even Heidi ask or expressed their opion Brandon got very defensive and tried to reflect attention away from him. The point that angred me is that he still doesn't want to take responsibility for his past action. He needs to be honest with himself before he can be honest with anyone else. When he stated that his pressure at work because he has delivered dead babies and seen people burn to death and no one can understand that. I spend over 20 years in the military for the greatest county on earth (USA), what Brandon may have experience is bad however nothing like seeing your buddy shot in front of you and seeing this day in and day out for months on end. The majority of military people have seen more nastrosities than Brandon and haven't turned evil. Don't make excused Brandon stand up for once in your life and be a man.....
 
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December 27, 2007, 10:52 pm PST

Some people don't change

Hi Dr. Phil,

I grew up with Brandon and he is still the same.  Some people just don't change I think. Love your show.

 

 
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December 27, 2007, 11:16 pm PST

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I Just find it so hard to believe that she would even think about having him back in her life.  There are way too many signs and having him back in the house with the violence and the unfaithfulness will make her children into to people just like him.  Im so mad

 

ON THE OTHER NOTE I KNOW YOU HAVE SPONSOR"S DR> PHIL BUT SO MANY COMMERCIALS THAT IT DRIVES ME NUTS>

 

Frustrated Stephanie

 
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December 27, 2007, 11:39 pm PST

Brandon sociopath

When I saw the show I could see right through him. Why because I've been there done that. I know this because he is a sociopath. He feels no guilt or emphathy towards anybody.He tries to put the blame on everybody else or make reasons. he tries to draw the attention away from him. I worked with the nicest guy could find  that could win you over. No guilt for what you do you find justification and blame and that is what Brandon is doing.  Down the road he is dangerous he doesn't except truely his faults with the sickness he holds. Some day he will phisically hurt those children and that is my scare.  So I guess its on you now. 
 
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December 28, 2007, 12:08 am PST

12/27 The Nanny Affair, Part 2

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Who is the wife's girlfriend and why is she so involved in their lives? I think she is a "pot stirrer" who wants to keep things shaken up in her supposed friend's life.

 

I think she should butt out and let them go to therapy to see if the marriage can be saved or not.

 

GET RID OF GIRLFRIEND, this is also betrayal of the marriage.

I don't know, I don't see the best friend as a real problem.  Maybe she is just concerned.  A few years back I was with a real jerk, I FINALLY got rid of him, but afterwards my best friend ( of almost 20years) had told me that she was just about ready to stop our friendship because she couldn't take seeing theway he treated me and seeing the person I had become.  Also when she was married to her first husband (psycho-freak) we didn't speak for a few months basically for the same reason.  I could see clear as day what he was all about, and she couldn't at first.

Although I would definitely say she was meddling if their marriage was stable and good, but obviously the wife needs a friend.

 
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December 28, 2007, 12:13 am PST

12/27 The Nanny Affair, Part 2

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Why is Amy taking money from her parents(3000/6000 per month) and not working.  Also why does she need a nanny when she isn't working.  Amy comes across as a spoiled kid.
Yeah that blew me away too.  God, I wish someone would give me 3-6 grand a month!!!!!!!!!!1
 
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December 28, 2007, 12:30 am PST

keep your comments to yourself

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rojorooster has no clue as to what is going on thats why Doctor Phil did not say anything to Heidi. Now that I have that out of the way. Unless you have been in that situation you can not see the whole picture I was in a relationship for 17 years and my whole family could see what was going on but I was so blind to it because you think you can change that person because you so desperately love them and when it almost killed me only than I was able to open my eyes and see things for myself. So you are able to see the signs almost immediately in another person relationship and Heidi loves her best friend she has no motive not to see her best friend happy. My sister started dating someone she use to date many years ago and she left him because he was just like this jerk and she thought he had change. But I could see right through him and nothing had change, he tried to turn my sister against me but it did not work everything I told my sister came to be and now he is out of her life and I don't regret getting involved SO IN LESS YOU HAVE BEEN THERE KEEP YOUR COMMENTS TO YOUR SELF!

I thought this message board was for people's comments. I guess I have just as much right to say something as you do. You don't know what kind of life I have had, so I guess I can say what is on my mind. The last time I checked this was still a free country and I have freedom of speech, just as you do. I just feel that Heidi is interferring too much and she may be a big part of the problems this couple is having. She has voiced her opinion of the situation and everyone around knows there is something going on with this couple. He'd be an absolute idiot to hurt his wife with the whole country looking on. So Heidi has brought the whole thing out now and I just think she should stay away from the situation and let the family take care of the situation. I agree, the wife should not go back into a bad situation and she should have enough sense to know that. As I said previously, she is one card short of a full deck. She needs professional counseling, not counseling from her best friend. Doesn't sound as if Heidi has had much luck with men in her own life, so I don't think she is qualified to give the wife any advice. So I apologize for thinking this was a place where anyone could throw in their opinion. My opionion doesn't matter any more than yours does. We are not involved in this situation. Have a nice day.
 
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December 28, 2007, 3:58 am PST

12/27 The Nanny Affair, Part 2

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Everytime Dr Phil, Amy, or even Heidi ask or expressed their opion Brandon got very defensive and tried to reflect attention away from him. The point that angred me is that he still doesn't want to take responsibility for his past action. He needs to be honest with himself before he can be honest with anyone else. When he stated that his pressure at work because he has delivered dead babies and seen people burn to death and no one can understand that. I spend over 20 years in the military for the greatest county on earth (USA), what Brandon may have experience is bad however nothing like seeing your buddy shot in front of you and seeing this day in and day out for months on end. The majority of military people have seen more nastrosities than Brandon and haven't turned evil. Don't make excused Brandon stand up for once in your life and be a man.....

Heidi. This is the real wall standing between this couple's hope for making this marriage work. She needs to mind her own business and let Brandon get the help he needs to have that chance to get his marriage and family back. As long as Heidi is in the picture, she will always discourage Amy  and her parents of ever considering taking Brandon back even if he's declared 'Changed for the better' by a professional. Her hatred for him will always be there and her interferring with a couple's marriage with the intent of breaking them up because her best friend got married, had children and a house sounds like a jealous, selfish, friend to me. Misery loves company and it would be such a delight in Heidi's heart to achieve that goal. I think the very fact that Brandon had the balls to come on the show is a giant 1st step in his recovery to salvage his wife and family back and as long as tries to get better and perhaps one day change for the better, Heidi will always be in the way to block that final field goal of Brandon to win the game.

 

What is wrong with people today in our country? Have we resorted to kicking someone when their down? and when they try to make a come back for the better, kick them down some more? Sorry firends, Wedding vows state that no man nor woman come between the husband and his wife. Heidi is a medler and a marriage split up specialist. I agree with Dr. Phil in that the couple does not get back together for a while until Brandon gets more help and from what I saw, he's willing to do just that. Seperation is  a good thing but divorce is a bad thing and is what God, our maker is against!

 
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December 28, 2007, 4:22 am PST

Amy will wait??

I'm not so sure Amy got the message afterall.  The  last thing that was televised was Amy saying she'd wait for Brandon however long it took him to fix himself.  Amy Honey, he may NEVER be fixed!  Move on with your life and if Brandon  does a complete 180, consider him.  But otherwise, your children deserve a calm, rational, drama-free household!  And kudos to Heidi for having the nerve to go on the show and speak for those babies.  If every "outsider" minded their own business there would be more domestic violence.  Amy admitted she had blinders on when it came to Brandon hosing down his step daughter.  I wonder if Brandon wouldnt use this treatment on his biological children.  WAKE UP AMY!  Move on! 
 
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