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Created on : Thursday, July 07, 2005, 09:14:12 am
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Is there a rift in your family that has gone on too long? When someone isn't speaking to someone else and they drag the whole family into it, things get ugly. Share your stories and solutions here.

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November 27, 2005, 5:34 am PST

need some advice

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For about 3 months now my kids have been mad at me and my husband. Me and my husband went to visit and was staying in a motel for their convenience. Our grandson had a crying spell outside at the neighbor's house. The lady came running to tell my Daughter about his condition. He scared her to death crying so . She had never seen a child cry like this. So, to cut the story short, my husband made the comment in front of a friend that"parents sometimes have to get on the same page while raiseing your kids" My son-in-law got upset and we left for a while we left thinking things  would get better. But it did not!!! When we came back my daufghter was very upset and blamed my husband for saying that and he tried to talk to her and she kicked us out of her house. Then  later she got mad at me for saying things about the situation and told me not to return and I could not see my grandsons ever again. I have tried to contact her and she stays mad. We can not settle this problem. What do I do? Nothing?
Dr. Phil, I really need your advise!!!! I appreciate your advise and will do anything to get this straight.
 
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November 27, 2005, 8:57 am PST

What do I say?

I have a Christian web site (http://mademecry.tripod.com). Occasionally, people will contact me asking for advice and any guidance I can provide. I just had a guy contact me who said that he could really relate to being like my father. Now to really understand how this makes me feel, you should know that I feel that my father is the most selfish, self-centered, uncaring %#@*$ that I have ever known and the only person he has ever cared about is himself. People like that really make me very very mad. I talk about my father and how I feel about him on my website. Some guy contacted me and said that he can really relate to being like my father (so naturally I don't want to have anything to do with him). However, I do believe that he sincerely recognized what he has been doing. He mentioned having a 1 yr old daughter. I think maybe he saw in me and the relationship I have with my father what he will have someday with his daughter if he continues his self-centered ways. I beleive he was sincere when he asked for prayer. He said he feels so hopeless. Now I know that as a Christian I need to respond and help him in any way I can, but I really don't want to and don't know what I would say. What do I do?
 
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November 28, 2005, 11:27 am PST

spouses using DSS maliciously to get back...

I'm posting similar messages on a few boards because I really want some feed back. I will avoid the gruesome details because it would ruin it for everyone when the 'made-for-tv' movie comes out later...see keeping my sense of humor. 

My ex-husband and his wife (used to be mistress) are out to get me. They recenlty opened a can of worms bigger than any of us could have imagined. They have used Department of Social Services as a tool to get me.  

This is as simple as i can make it. They had an affair and left both their spouses and children. We had 3 she had 2. The trauma was unbearbale and classic for Robin's "first wives club". I met someone and we got engaged. We had a dughter that has had alot of medical complications causing me to stop working and keep her out of group care. years went by and the children were carted back and forth to dad's and he was a constant source of turmoil for me, my fiance, and our daughters. I could not get his cooperation on any co-parenting issues. Child support had been based on my job that paid as much as he made. But I stopped working shortly thereafter and didn't ask for additional money becasue our daughters health should not have effected his financial responsibility. I finally asked for some tempory help and he (and the wife agreed) unknowingly, my fiance bought a new care for me (out of necessity but new none-the-less) my ex was furious. A week later I fought with my 14 yr old who screamed at me, cussed me, laughed at me, and kicked me. I smacked her. Yes, I know absolutley wrong. It was the first time. I own it and appologized for it. Her stepmother came to pick her up, called the police and threatend me with assault charges. They then called DSS and made several false allegations. They filed an emergency custody order because I had "struck" her and based on the DSS investigation. They won, pending the outcome of the investigation. They took the girls from me. The investigation lasted 3 months and at it's conclusion they decided that there was no evidence to substantiate the allegations but because there were "consistent reports" between the ex, his wife, and our 14 yr old. they had to substantiate a possibly injurious environment and put on us on "plans" to reahabilitate that would take 6 months or longer. It didn't matter that the other witness were all all positive, including friends, family members, teachers, pediatricians, criminal reports, assesments, drug tests etc. They held my 7 yr old from me, scared her and convinced her of things that were not true and that she now says are untrue.  

ANYWAY...my point is not to incite a pity party but that was sooooo easy for him to do and I have learned, all be it the hard way, that anyone can do this. They are mandated to substantiate if one person in the house hold says it's so. The credability or stability of that person doesn't matter. According to my attorney (which has cost us everything and about to include our home) DSS is not your friend in any way. If you don't cooperate they can and will take the children. Spouses use child protective services as tools in their needs to destroy the other all the time and there is nothing anyone can do about it because these agencies are madated to investigate and protect. 

HAS THIS HAPPENED TO ANYONE ELSE? I REALLY WANT TO HEAR IF YOU HAVE.  

  

 
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November 28, 2005, 3:03 pm PST

DSS, The Child Stealers of America

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I'm posting similar messages on a few boards because I really want some feed back. I will avoid the gruesome details because it would ruin it for everyone when the 'made-for-tv' movie comes out later...see keeping my sense of humor. 

My ex-husband and his wife (used to be mistress) are out to get me. They recenlty opened a can of worms bigger than any of us could have imagined. They have used Department of Social Services as a tool to get me.  

This is as simple as i can make it. They had an affair and left both their spouses and children. We had 3 she had 2. The trauma was unbearbale and classic for Robin's "first wives club". I met someone and we got engaged. We had a dughter that has had alot of medical complications causing me to stop working and keep her out of group care. years went by and the children were carted back and forth to dad's and he was a constant source of turmoil for me, my fiance, and our daughters. I could not get his cooperation on any co-parenting issues. Child support had been based on my job that paid as much as he made. But I stopped working shortly thereafter and didn't ask for additional money becasue our daughters health should not have effected his financial responsibility. I finally asked for some tempory help and he (and the wife agreed) unknowingly, my fiance bought a new care for me (out of necessity but new none-the-less) my ex was furious. A week later I fought with my 14 yr old who screamed at me, cussed me, laughed at me, and kicked me. I smacked her. Yes, I know absolutley wrong. It was the first time. I own it and appologized for it. Her stepmother came to pick her up, called the police and threatend me with assault charges. They then called DSS and made several false allegations. They filed an emergency custody order because I had "struck" her and based on the DSS investigation. They won, pending the outcome of the investigation. They took the girls from me. The investigation lasted 3 months and at it's conclusion they decided that there was no evidence to substantiate the allegations but because there were "consistent reports" between the ex, his wife, and our 14 yr old. they had to substantiate a possibly injurious environment and put on us on "plans" to reahabilitate that would take 6 months or longer. It didn't matter that the other witness were all all positive, including friends, family members, teachers, pediatricians, criminal reports, assesments, drug tests etc. They held my 7 yr old from me, scared her and convinced her of things that were not true and that she now says are untrue.  

ANYWAY...my point is not to incite a pity party but that was sooooo easy for him to do and I have learned, all be it the hard way, that anyone can do this. They are mandated to substantiate if one person in the house hold says it's so. The credability or stability of that person doesn't matter. According to my attorney (which has cost us everything and about to include our home) DSS is not your friend in any way. If you don't cooperate they can and will take the children. Spouses use child protective services as tools in their needs to destroy the other all the time and there is nothing anyone can do about it because these agencies are madated to investigate and protect. 

HAS THIS HAPPENED TO ANYONE ELSE? I REALLY WANT TO HEAR IF YOU HAVE.  

  

It has happened to many a people. Alot of people get  falsely accused of things by ex friends or parties, and get DSS called on them out of spite! The people who do such evil as this dont realize that they are hurting the children by doing such spiteful tactics. People who make false claims on someone out of spite makes me sick! If you are in the system now you will be having to jump through hoops and loops in order to get your kids back and no matter what you do, it will never be good enough for DSS. The number one thing for ALL parents to know is to KNOW THEIR RIGHTS! You do not have to let DSS in your home UNLESS they have a "search warrant". The same rule applies to a police officer who wants to search your home. I know a few people who are going trough this because of false accusations made on them because of "vindictive" people. You can find more valuble information about DSS and falsely accused on: http://forum.fightcps.com/ . You need to write down EVERYTHING and take notes as to who says what. Dates, time etc...In some states it is LEGAL to record everything that is being said by anyone and you dont even have to let the other party know that you are recording. Check out the website mentioned above. There are alot of people on there who can answere just about any question you may have and even help you get your kids back. Good luck and dont give up no matter what.
 
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December 2, 2005, 5:53 pm PST

Forgivness isn't fair

I have a birth Mother who has done some horrible things. She had me at sixteen and two other girls soon after. Until the time I was seven we saw her do many things.  Drugs, hookering, we were homeless and lived in a car. Many bad things happened to us. When I was seven she left for seven years. She dropped us off at our Grandmother's. Which to make a long story short they were not a safe place to live and the state took us away. I went through many different homes. I was a crazy mixed up teen who thought if my own mother couldn't love me I wouldn't let anybody even tried. I met my match. A Christian foster mother loved me as her own and no matter what test I took her through she stood the test of time. When I came close to being adopted my birth mother came back into contact with me. So I started acting out and ran away to her many states over.To make a super long story short she was not  the mother I wanted her to be or even one I needed. Being with her I was so out of control.. I finally turn myself in and went to a residential home. Changed my life around and went home to my faithful foster mother. I stayed in contact with my birth mother and started to build a relationship with her. At 17 to I wanted to get married and I left the states custody. So I went to live with her. After being there I realized how she was still so mixed up in her head. My husband and I soon left. Living on my own I worked through alot of my anger toward her. And so far thought that I had forgiven her. The day I gave birth to my son I realized how much I hated her. How could she leave her children? How could she let us be abused?  Because of that and her mental unstableness I don't talk to her nor do I let her have anything to with my kids. I want so much to set an example for my kids on how to live, love and forgive. But HOW????
 
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December 4, 2005, 2:35 am PST

just need advice!!!

look, im 17 and i have a boyfriend younger than me, he's 15...but we are completely in love with each other or maybe its not love as everyone says but what do you call it when you cant stay away from a person for even a second or not hearing his voice??? And for some time ago i started thinkin about this age difference...i didnt tell my parents i had a boyfriend and when they knew about it, they got mad and told me that he's much younger and not good enough for me....and they kind of told me to stop talkin to him completely and i agreed...but now im talking to him behind their back...and willing to work out this relationship...and now i feel far from my parents and that i cant talk to them about anything....and i hardly open a discussion with them anymore.... 

i want to have a good relationship with my parents and at the same time keep my boyfriend.... 

 
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December 5, 2005, 2:42 am PST

Remember your foster mother

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I have a birth Mother who has done some horrible things. She had me at sixteen and two other girls soon after. Until the time I was seven we saw her do many things.  Drugs, hookering, we were homeless and lived in a car. Many bad things happened to us. When I was seven she left for seven years. She dropped us off at our Grandmother's. Which to make a long story short they were not a safe place to live and the state took us away. I went through many different homes. I was a crazy mixed up teen who thought if my own mother couldn't love me I wouldn't let anybody even tried. I met my match. A Christian foster mother loved me as her own and no matter what test I took her through she stood the test of time. When I came close to being adopted my birth mother came back into contact with me. So I started acting out and ran away to her many states over.To make a super long story short she was not  the mother I wanted her to be or even one I needed. Being with her I was so out of control.. I finally turn myself in and went to a residential home. Changed my life around and went home to my faithful foster mother. I stayed in contact with my birth mother and started to build a relationship with her. At 17 to I wanted to get married and I left the states custody. So I went to live with her. After being there I realized how she was still so mixed up in her head. My husband and I soon left. Living on my own I worked through alot of my anger toward her. And so far thought that I had forgiven her. The day I gave birth to my son I realized how much I hated her. How could she leave her children? How could she let us be abused?  Because of that and her mental unstableness I don't talk to her nor do I let her have anything to with my kids. I want so much to set an example for my kids on how to live, love and forgive. But HOW????

She set you the example you need.   

 
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December 6, 2005, 8:46 am PST

All i want for christmas

I'm 39 years old a mother of three and i have one grandchild and a another on the way,five years ago my hole life changed ,my father and mother moved away to Texas where my brothers and sister live pretty much thats where all my family lives ,my two oldest brothers have lived in Texas most of my there life,so we didn't really grow up together i have one sister who i is my best friend she moved to Texas one year after her daughter was born ,for the longest time all i had for family was my mom and dad and my own kids,it was hard to see them movie away. i never  thought about it tell they where gone what its like to not have a family around any more.  not like i know what its like to have a close loving family because my family is not like that  and i so much want to have it ,now that my daughters are grown and having kids of there own and my son who is 15 who lives with his father i feel so alone now more then ever ,since my mother has moved away she is not the same mother or grandmother i once knew. my father is dieing and us kids are not getting any younger ,i have tried to keep in touch with my brothers threw out the years by sending cards calling them on the holidays but i have to be the one to call or what ever they have never just called too see how i was doing now my mom who I'm close to  does not even call me unless she needs me to do something for her i didn't even get a call this year for my birthday or Thanksgiving,they know that i have no one to spend the holidays with my kids have always went to there dads house because all of his family get together on those days.i would really like to know what its like to have a close family who keeps in touch and family who not so judgmental ,i Dr Phil  said on Monday  you just never know what could happen you could lose a loved one and wish you would of said how much you .you know what i mean ,so to all the people who wish there family would just go way or that ever it is i say to you i wish i had a family who cares about one another ,i how do i get them to see that we need to become a loving caring family  for its to late and there is no family left . so my wish for Christmas is to have my family close to me . and to be more careing of each other , 

 
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December 6, 2005, 1:37 pm PST

Please start over!!!

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I have recently left my fiance' after 5 years together. I am very confused and depressed over this. My future husband hates my 20 year old son. This is also why we never married. We have been engaged for over 2 years. I refused to marry him until this was resolved, which obviously never happened! I love my fiance' very much but I love my childern more. I also have a 14 year old son. He has 2 boys that lived with us. They are about the same age as my sons. I got along great with his kids. My fiance' was very mean to my oldest son. He would call him names and he always complained about my son. He acted like he was jealous of my relationship with my son. My son never talked back and he was always very nice to my fiance'. My fiance' got along better with my youngest son but I'm afraid he would eventually treat him the same way. It was horrible to hear my fiance' call my son names and I have left before because of this. I always came back because he said he was sorry and wouldn't do it again. He did get better at calling him names but he always had something bad to say about my son. He said I was sick because I always hug my children. He said at a certain age people stop showing affection like that. I disagree. I came from a family that always showed affection. His family never shows affection. They never hug each other and I think it's sad. Of course he is raising his own children the same way. I think it was refreshing for his children because I would show them affection. We went to a counselor and the counselor agreed with me so my finace' didn't want to go back. I left my fiance' because of all this. I am living with my sister and I have very little furniture because we gave it to charities when I moved in with him. I am 40 years old and I've decided to go back to college and finish my education. I quit college because he was so jealous of people I met at school. He was even jealous of my doctor! I didn't go to the doctor unless I had to because it always caused a fight. So it wasn't just my son he was jealous over. I never cheated on him so this behavior was not appropriate. Has anyone gone through this type of relationship? Did I do the right thing? My children are happy and they know how much I love them. My oldest son lives on his own but my youngest lives with me. My youngest is worried I will go back again. I feel really quilty because I have gone back before. I hate to see my youngest son worry about this. I keep reassuring him that we are not going anywhere. Although, I am looking for my own place. I hate starting over again at age 40 but it's refreashing not having all that stress in my life. I would love to hear other stories like mine and the outcomes of those relationships.

It will be the best thing you can do for you and your sons.  To continue to be in that toxic relationship is putting all of you at risk.  Both mentally and physically. Please start over without your EX-finace'. 

  

My first husband was jealous of my son and was verbally abusive.  Then we had a daughter.  That did not help.  My ex-husband was always berating me and belittling me.  Always accusing me of having affairs.  He even accused me of having an affair with my boss.  Turns out that I found oue he had been having affairs all along.  I kicked him to the curb, made him move out. 

  

Then I had a short relationship and got pregnant a third time.  I asked for his help and he said that he wanted to try to fix things between us.  It looked good for a few months.  THen he went back to his old ways.  I finally had enough and kicked him out for good.  It was good for me and the kids. 

  

You CAN start over.  It will be tough, but worth every minute of peace.  I will keep you in my prayers. 

  

 
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December 6, 2005, 1:59 pm PST

Hang in there

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Hello, Here's my story, My fiancee ( 21) and I (24) recently just split up on Sunday. I came home from work and found a note on the couch and her engagement ring. She had some of her things moved out and most of our sons belongings whom is only 15 months old.  I tried to talk to her about hope for us and our family again but she says she doesn't want to talk about it unless it involves our son, which is confusing to me because if we talk about us getting back together that would be involving our son, right? The thing is I want for her to know that I'm not just telling her nice things to get her back in my life I honestly feel like this is bad for our son and I honestly realize my mistakes, just hope it isn't too late for us. In my opinion our problems started worsening whrn she took a promotion to a store manager and she was away longer, the hours were different and it was an hour's drive each way. I'm trying to convince myself  that the stress from the new job plus dealing with my nonsense and a young child was just to much at one time. I'll admit it I could have been a nicer man if I didn't let jealousy get the best of me. Like for example  when she'd come home from work usually around 9 or 9:30 at night she'd call her mom or her friends and talk about her day to them and I felt like I just didn't matter so I would say nasty comments to her, and I know I was wrong by doing that I just mistakenly thought that would work in the fact that she would talk to me instead.  I just felt so left out, like I wasn't needed anymore you know.  I didn't know how else to go about her talking to me so I became defensive.  I can honestly say that I realize the areas of concern for me to make a relationship work but is it too late? I'm willing to go to counseling and get professional help for my attitude because I just really want my family to be together again, even though it was only a small family of three it was a family and I planned on keeping it together. I'm honestly not dealing well with the situation though, I haven't really eaten any solids in 3 days, just juice and vitamins which isn't good but I have no appetite at all. She told me she had to do what was good for our son but I can't see this being good for him at all. We never really fought in front of him, I never cheated on her, or never hit her, I was just very rude from my standpoint, I'm sure her's is different. If anyone has any advice at all please post it or send me an email at shapansky99@yahoo.com , I'm willing to do what it takes to make things right again, I don't know of any other 24 yr old guys watching Dr. Phil on a regular basis but I feel like he will have the answer to my problems. I really still love her and want for us to be together again, for us and for our son, I just don't know what else to do.   

   

Thanks for your time,   

   

Sincerely,  

   

Justin Shapansky and our son Kyler  

Talk to your personal God.  Ask Him for guidance.  Ask Him to lead you.  Pray often and sincerely.   

  

Take care of yourself first.  Eat healthy.  Exercise.  Be thankful that you have a healthy son.   

We all get defensive when we feel our ideals threatened.  That is natural.  Continue to work on your personal issues and give her some time.  She probably has issues of her own that she has to work on.  Let her know that you desire to continue a relationship with her and your son.  But it takes time and patience.  On both parts.  You both are still young and there will be many difficult situations in the future.  Just leave the door "open" for her to come back.  Be supportive and sensitive to her desire to have some personal space.  You need space too just to get your issues into perspective. Leave the lines of communication open.  

  

I will pray for you and your family. 

 
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