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Created on : Thursday, July 07, 2005, 09:14:12 am
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Is there a rift in your family that has gone on too long? When someone isn't speaking to someone else and they drag the whole family into it, things get ugly. Share your stories and solutions here.

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December 6, 2005, 2:25 pm PST

In need of some advice.... well here goes.....

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look, im 17 and i have a boyfriend younger than me, he's 15...but we are completely in love with each other or maybe its not love as everyone says but what do you call it when you cant stay away from a person for even a second or not hearing his voice??? And for some time ago i started thinkin about this age difference...i didnt tell my parents i had a boyfriend and when they knew about it, they got mad and told me that he's much younger and not good enough for me....and they kind of told me to stop talkin to him completely and i agreed...but now im talking to him behind their back...and willing to work out this relationship...and now i feel far from my parents and that i cant talk to them about anything....and i hardly open a discussion with them anymore.... 

i want to have a good relationship with my parents and at the same time keep my boyfriend.... 

Well this is so irronic, my daughter is 17 years old and was dating a 15 year old, well actually they have been dating since she was 14 and he was 12 years old, pretty crazy hey and this is coming from a Mom.  My best advise it be open and honest with your parents.  I knew my daughter was seeing a younger guy and I didnt exactly agree but I knew that she would figure things out on her own eventually.  I think its better to be honest then to keep secrets.  I think in the end they will be okay with it.  We as parents dont like to see someone who we think isnt good enough but have to trust that we have raised our children well enough to figure things out on there own.  My daughter was with her boyfriend for almost two years and he just recently broke it off with her after almost  two years together, she is heart broken and I think she is better off with out him but I am here for her when she needs me, we talk about it. I hope and pray that things work out for you but like I said I think you should talk to your parents and tell them how you feel.  Let them know exactly what you said in this letter, tell them that you want to have a open and honest relationship with them and tell them how you feel about your friend, I think it will be okay if you are honest, lying only causes trouble and unecessary pain. 

  

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December 7, 2005, 7:44 am PST

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Ya know there is something to be said for repairing broken relationships.  Sometimes they just are beyond repair.  I too have a mother who cannot accept responsibility for her actions.  I was molested as a child by one of her many boyfriends for many years.  She will not take responisiblity for her part in it all.  For years this woman had control over me and my older brother.  When I became and adult I seen what she was doing and broke away from her.  It was hard but it needed to be done so that I wouldnt be relying on her and vice versa,  I too have ownership in all that happened except the molestation.  I let her have control of my life.  About two weeks ago I started talking to her via E-mail.  I have learned boundaries for my life.  I know that she will begin at some point crossing those boundaries and I will have to back away from her again.  I dont have a normal relationship with her.  But I had to learn where I could and couldnt allow her in.  My brother however will not speak to her over actions she took in his life.   

I DO NOT like the remarks that Dr Phil makes about how what if this person died ect because it makes the person pulling away feel bad.  What if that person really is a bad person and you decide to stay away.  I have forgiven.  But I am not stupid enough to jump in head first in a relationship I know is toxic.   

 
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December 7, 2005, 9:01 pm PST

Mother is parting me from my family

My family is pretty upscale.  I guess I'm considered the "misfit" because I'm 38 yrs old, divorced with 3 children, and only working part-time as a dental assistant /office assistant. 

  

Unfortunatly I dated a "loser" about 2-1/2 yrs ago who got me pregnant then assaulted me so I had him arrested.  My mother wanted me to give my now 1-1/2 yr old daughter up for adoption, but I refused.  My baby is now the light of my life.  Anyhow, last year my mother also helped my 9 yr old son's father gain full custody of my son.  She fabricated a bunch of lies on her statement such as "she hangs out with criminals", "kids clothes are dirty", and such.  These were all straight out lies!  Well, I couldnt afford another long court battle so I finally gave up and let my son live with his dad. 

  

I hated my mom for doing this.  She painted a picture of me living like "trailer-trash" to my whole family.  The only time I really saw them was on holidays.  Everyone sent me and my children holiday cards thoughout the year, and they pretend like nothing ever happened.  I never told them my side of the story, I never stick up for myself because the dont listen to a word I say.  So I just ignore them.  Last Thanksgiving I took my son skiing instead of celebrating with my parents and family.  I just couldn't forgive or forget what my mom did.  

  

Well, here's the delema... 

My mom asked what sizes the kids wear and said Christmas this year will be at Uncle Pat & Aunt Vickys.  She expects me  and my kids to be there. 

  

Most of my family is the "fakey-rehearsed" type.  You almost think they're trying out for an Oscar award just to greet someone.  I really dont want to go, but my 14 yr old son wants to celebrate there since it's the only family we really know.  I dont really have much of a relationship with my dad's side of the family because my dad was hospitalized for being crazy when I was growing up.  My mother is a perfectionist and very judgemental.  I just want to be left alone but my 9-yr old wants a Christmas.  He said he only wants to go if I go too.  My 14 yr old son and my baby have no other family.  They dont see their dads.   

  

What do I do?  Can this be fixed?  I feel to hurt to pretend nothing ever happened, yet I want good Christmas memories for my children.   

  

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December 7, 2005, 9:32 pm PST

Still Happens to LOTS of people

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It has happened to many a people. Alot of people get  falsely accused of things by ex friends or parties, and get DSS called on them out of spite! The people who do such evil as this dont realize that they are hurting the children by doing such spiteful tactics. People who make false claims on someone out of spite makes me sick! If you are in the system now you will be having to jump through hoops and loops in order to get your kids back and no matter what you do, it will never be good enough for DSS. The number one thing for ALL parents to know is to KNOW THEIR RIGHTS! You do not have to let DSS in your home UNLESS they have a "search warrant". The same rule applies to a police officer who wants to search your home. I know a few people who are going trough this because of false accusations made on them because of "vindictive" people. You can find more valuble information about DSS and falsely accused on: http://forum.fightcps.com/ . You need to write down EVERYTHING and take notes as to who says what. Dates, time etc...In some states it is LEGAL to record everything that is being said by anyone and you dont even have to let the other party know that you are recording. Check out the website mentioned above. There are alot of people on there who can answere just about any question you may have and even help you get your kids back. Good luck and dont give up no matter what.

Same thing happened to me.  My son's dad tried almost every year for 9 years to gain full custody.  His wife couldnt get pregnant and our son is adorable so they called CPS all the time with false allegations, then CPS made several investigations, it was almost a annual holiday.  Ok, trying not to be funny, but they photocopied "Called CPS" several times on there court statments which didnt have anything behind it, but looked bad for me since there were so many of them. 

  

You're not alone, and Child Protective Services knows this.  Just let them know what's going on. 

 
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December 8, 2005, 12:28 pm PST

Want to help Dad/Bro's relationship...

I feel like I should get ivolved, simply because I'm the grownup here... and I love them both so much.  

  

Dad and Brother have had troubles for a long time, ever since my parents got divorced and we (kids & Mom) moved to a far off state. Dad was never good at keeping in contact or sending regular child support, creating real tension between us and him. I'm considerably older than my bro, and moved back to Dad's state at 18 yrs old. Since then (I'm 35 now), we have hashed out lots of that old stuff and grown to be pretty good friends as adults. My brother moved back to our state when he turned 18, as well. Although we don't live very close to Dad, we have been in the same state since then...  

  

But, Dad is still terrible at staying in touch... rarely visits (more like never) or calls, still misses birthdays and holidays, no calls or gifts. And, although it still bugs me, I've just grown to accept it. That's just Dad, he has faults but I love him. I would rather have a relationship with him even though he's lame... I'm just not angry like I used to be. So, Dad and I are now in regular contact mostly via email and the web. 

  

Not so for my brother. I didn't realize this until recently... but they apparently haven't been in contact for over a year. Rediculous. I know it's just because our Dad hasn't tried very hard... and once some time has passed he is a big baby about it, worried about getting in trouble. On the other side, I know my Brother thinks it's all Dad's fault and responsibility as the lame-o parent. Really, I see it as a two way street at this point... we are all adults now. 

  

The real problem here is that my brother is getting married in May and I heard from our Mom that he might not invite Dad at all. This is huge. We don't have a dramatic family at all, it's not a soap opera or anything... this is a big deal, to not invite a core family member to a wedding. And I'm really worried about it. 

  

What's odd is that when they DO talk, they get along great... their personalities are so similar it's eerie. So, it's not like dad would show up and there would be a big fight. Most likely it would be a fun time for all. But, my fear is either 1) Dad won't get invited  or 2) he gets invited and doesn't show up due to some 'unavoidable' reason (like everything else). Either way, there will be serious long-term damage to this relationship. 

  

My question is... what should I do? I really want to get into this before the wedding. And while it would be easy to stay out of it, I just can't watch them both sever an already ailing relationship. I have thought of sending one email to both of them... or maybe seperate ones. I'm not sure what to say... and what if they ignore me? What if I just upset them more?  

  

 I'm having a hard time here... please help! 

 
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December 8, 2005, 3:41 pm PST

why do monsters get control

are you kidding me dr. phil???????????? 

reach out????? i did and like millions you are left as you said ISOLATED!!! 

i am now on an 80 acre farm ALONE....... because I reached out!! 

i sought lawyers, priests, doctors, specialists, psychiatrists... NADA!!!!!! 

you seem the only one with a brain!!!!!!! 

you are right about time and healing!!!! 

what my husband caused me to suffer is not healing 

i heard many scenarios of what I lived on your show!! 

- he never talked to me when i was pregnant
- he forced me to wait on him when i was pregnant and tired(i have a handicap porone to fatigue) .. he never even came with me to the doctor's office when Iaccidentally spilled a pot of boiling water on my 9th month big abdomen
- he suggested i abort 2 out of my 3 children
- he raced the car when i was getting out and i fell to the ground
- he locked me out of the house at 20 below zero F* 

that's just the beginning!!
- one of my 3 kids was born with my handicap
- he told her to use a scooter was making her look like a handicapped...... i got it for her so she could be careful due to bad posture stop the progression of a scoliosis 

- for my oldest, he threw a wrench at his head missing it by an inch... 

- for my other son, he got him to go live with him and when i met up with this son later, my ex had had him live in abasment and had not even bought him a pair of shoes....... 

i have sought help..... and decided i am best alone...... but i love life.. was a pilote teacher for a children's treatment center, became an ethnologist with a world class folklorist (a french canadian brother Grimm)... i did so many good things..... but i was made scapegoat... my pain was too grreat and i lost listening ears...... 

I AM GOING CRAZY DR. PHIL without my kids!!!! both my parents came from families of 13 kids...... i had 3 despite doctor's warnings..... and when they went to live with him he had me banned from even getting reports about them...... 

i guess my psyche s still grasping for a drop of that milk of human kindness.... 

i know you get so much mail.......... oh well......... i gave it another try thinking you might miraculously restore communication with my kids........ why else was i even created!!! 

i have twin boy grand-children.......... i am not allowed to see them... somehow my husband spread the word i was a schizoid or something.... lol i never heard voice etc. ...... montrous lie to take control!!
dr phil........ why do monsters get to be so powerful!!! 

  

I NEED YOU TO HELP SOOOOO BAD!!!!!, MY KIDS AND G-KIDS DESERVBE TO HAVE A LOVING FANTASTIC PERSON LIKE ME....... STEP ASIDE MONSTER!!!!!!! 

 
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December 9, 2005, 1:50 pm PST

I think maybe you took it the wrong way.

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Ya know there is something to be said for repairing broken relationships.  Sometimes they just are beyond repair.  I too have a mother who cannot accept responsibility for her actions.  I was molested as a child by one of her many boyfriends for many years.  She will not take responisiblity for her part in it all.  For years this woman had control over me and my older brother.  When I became and adult I seen what she was doing and broke away from her.  It was hard but it needed to be done so that I wouldnt be relying on her and vice versa,  I too have ownership in all that happened except the molestation.  I let her have control of my life.  About two weeks ago I started talking to her via E-mail.  I have learned boundaries for my life.  I know that she will begin at some point crossing those boundaries and I will have to back away from her again.  I dont have a normal relationship with her.  But I had to learn where I could and couldnt allow her in.  My brother however will not speak to her over actions she took in his life.   

I DO NOT like the remarks that Dr Phil makes about how what if this person died ect because it makes the person pulling away feel bad.  What if that person really is a bad person and you decide to stay away.  I have forgiven.  But I am not stupid enough to jump in head first in a relationship I know is toxic.   

 It doesn't mean that you wipe the slate clean and everything's OK now, and the parent gets to come into your life to cause more pain. You have set some very healthy boundaries for yourself, and if e-mailing your mother is as close as you ever want to get, that's fine. What Dr Phil means is that if your mother were to pass away today, is there anything that would bother your conscience? Would there be anything left unsaid that you would regret? And this goes for saying things of a confrontational manner too. Just because someone dies doesn't mean that the hurt feelings you have die with them. Will you have emotional closure?
And in your case, the fact that you allow your mother to have contact with you, even if it's only e-mail, leaves the door open in case she ever wakes up and owns up to her responsibilities as a mother. You have given her the opportunity to make amends, but not the opportunity to hurt you again.
You "get" it.
 
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December 9, 2005, 1:58 pm PST

Agree to go, but make a plan.

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My family is pretty upscale.  I guess I'm considered the "misfit" because I'm 38 yrs old, divorced with 3 children, and only working part-time as a dental assistant /office assistant. 

  

Unfortunatly I dated a "loser" about 2-1/2 yrs ago who got me pregnant then assaulted me so I had him arrested.  My mother wanted me to give my now 1-1/2 yr old daughter up for adoption, but I refused.  My baby is now the light of my life.  Anyhow, last year my mother also helped my 9 yr old son's father gain full custody of my son.  She fabricated a bunch of lies on her statement such as "she hangs out with criminals", "kids clothes are dirty", and such.  These were all straight out lies!  Well, I couldnt afford another long court battle so I finally gave up and let my son live with his dad. 

  

I hated my mom for doing this.  She painted a picture of me living like "trailer-trash" to my whole family.  The only time I really saw them was on holidays.  Everyone sent me and my children holiday cards thoughout the year, and they pretend like nothing ever happened.  I never told them my side of the story, I never stick up for myself because the dont listen to a word I say.  So I just ignore them.  Last Thanksgiving I took my son skiing instead of celebrating with my parents and family.  I just couldn't forgive or forget what my mom did.  

  

Well, here's the delema... 

My mom asked what sizes the kids wear and said Christmas this year will be at Uncle Pat & Aunt Vickys.  She expects me  and my kids to be there. 

  

Most of my family is the "fakey-rehearsed" type.  You almost think they're trying out for an Oscar award just to greet someone.  I really dont want to go, but my 14 yr old son wants to celebrate there since it's the only family we really know.  I dont really have much of a relationship with my dad's side of the family because my dad was hospitalized for being crazy when I was growing up.  My mother is a perfectionist and very judgemental.  I just want to be left alone but my 9-yr old wants a Christmas.  He said he only wants to go if I go too.  My 14 yr old son and my baby have no other family.  They dont see their dads.   

  

What do I do?  Can this be fixed?  I feel to hurt to pretend nothing ever happened, yet I want good Christmas memories for my children.   

  

Miss Represented 

 Find out when the meal is going to be served and arrive and hour or so before that. After the meal, stay another hour or so and then leave. If this takes place in another town just say you have to get back. Or take the kids somewhere, a movie, anything. If it goes well you have the option of staying longer. If not, you have a plan to get out of there. You showed yourself, the kids got to see the relatives and vice/versa, you're not there long enough for confrontations. The trick is to control the situation. Just because you are invited doesn't mean you have to stay til the bitter end.
 
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December 9, 2005, 2:13 pm PST

Not sure if this is the right message board for this but...

I'm hoping someone can give me advice. I'm 28 and have never met my bio-father. When my mom was pregnant with me, she and my father broke up. They weren't married and had my brother. A parternity test was taken for my brother and father. Turns out my brother wasn't his. My mom may have been pregnant when they got together, but she has also proven herself to be a cheater...so I don't know what happened there. But that's not my business really.  

Anyways, because of that test, my father does not believe I'm his and no paternity test was taken with/for me. I didn't find any of the previous info out until I was 15 and kept my knowledge of it from my mom until I was 20. My mom raised my brother and I to think we had the same father. My brother's has his last name (I don't) and his middle name is my father's first name. Needless to say I was devasted to discover all this at 15.  

I've tried contacting my father via his mother twice. Once when I was 15, when I found out about all this, and again when I was 23. His mother was not nice. Not that I blame her really. I can only imagine how I would react if I was in her shoes. But part of me feels like I should be given the opprotunity for a paternity test. I don't want anything from him except enough DNA to take the test and family medical history from that side. I don't want money. I don't even want a relationship with him. There is nothing that could return to me what I've lost in my life....growing up with a father. 

I harbor alot of resentment towards my mom. She lied to me growing up about this and about other things regarding my father. She always told me that he was a monster who beat her. Once so bad while she was pregnant with me that she almost lost me. I have since had those claims nullified by a long time family friend, who also was friend's with my father. (By the way, the family friend has NO doubts that I'm my fathers' child.) I've confronted my mom with all that I've found out from this friend and she has admitted to lying about it....but not all of it. My problem is that I can't seem to "get over" this. I still want the partenity test. I want to forgive...I mean truly forgive my mom. I'm pretty sure I'll never get the test. But I would like to "hear" advice anyone has about how to truly forgive my mom, or at least start the process of forgiving. 

 
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December 9, 2005, 2:23 pm PST

There's not much you can do here.

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I feel like I should get ivolved, simply because I'm the grownup here... and I love them both so much.  

  

Dad and Brother have had troubles for a long time, ever since my parents got divorced and we (kids & Mom) moved to a far off state. Dad was never good at keeping in contact or sending regular child support, creating real tension between us and him. I'm considerably older than my bro, and moved back to Dad's state at 18 yrs old. Since then (I'm 35 now), we have hashed out lots of that old stuff and grown to be pretty good friends as adults. My brother moved back to our state when he turned 18, as well. Although we don't live very close to Dad, we have been in the same state since then...  

  

But, Dad is still terrible at staying in touch... rarely visits (more like never) or calls, still misses birthdays and holidays, no calls or gifts. And, although it still bugs me, I've just grown to accept it. That's just Dad, he has faults but I love him. I would rather have a relationship with him even though he's lame... I'm just not angry like I used to be. So, Dad and I are now in regular contact mostly via email and the web. 

  

Not so for my brother. I didn't realize this until recently... but they apparently haven't been in contact for over a year. Rediculous. I know it's just because our Dad hasn't tried very hard... and once some time has passed he is a big baby about it, worried about getting in trouble. On the other side, I know my Brother thinks it's all Dad's fault and responsibility as the lame-o parent. Really, I see it as a two way street at this point... we are all adults now. 

  

The real problem here is that my brother is getting married in May and I heard from our Mom that he might not invite Dad at all. This is huge. We don't have a dramatic family at all, it's not a soap opera or anything... this is a big deal, to not invite a core family member to a wedding. And I'm really worried about it. 

  

What's odd is that when they DO talk, they get along great... their personalities are so similar it's eerie. So, it's not like dad would show up and there would be a big fight. Most likely it would be a fun time for all. But, my fear is either 1) Dad won't get invited  or 2) he gets invited and doesn't show up due to some 'unavoidable' reason (like everything else). Either way, there will be serious long-term damage to this relationship. 

  

My question is... what should I do? I really want to get into this before the wedding. And while it would be easy to stay out of it, I just can't watch them both sever an already ailing relationship. I have thought of sending one email to both of them... or maybe seperate ones. I'm not sure what to say... and what if they ignore me? What if I just upset them more?  

  

 I'm having a hard time here... please help! 

 You say that you are considerably older than your brother, so I'm guessing you had a real relationship with your Dad before your parents split up. It's highly possible that your brother never had the chance to bond with him the way you did, and since your Dad is the lame individual he is, your brother grew up with no feelings whatsoever. It really WAS up to your DAD to remedy this. He definitely taught your brother how to treat him didn't he? And if they are so eerily alike as you say, it's just not that important to your brother that his Dad is there at his wedding.
If this is really bothering you, talk to your brother and tell him the truth. Your truth is that you would like to see your Dad there, so tell Bro. that. It might mean more to your brother to make you happy than his ambivalence about his father.
 
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