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Created on : Thursday, July 07, 2005, 09:16:57 am
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They're there for you when nobody else is, and understand without  you having to explain. Have your loved ones shown you the true meaning of the word "family" with their actions? Share your story.

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July 25, 2007, 8:54 am PDT

joke or kidding on greed

maybe some one can give me advice on how to handle my son-in-law-he has noconcerns when it comes to helping family members out (doing favors) but he wants them returned to him--example--my son in law and daugther moved to a new home so myself my son and my boyfriend helped all weekend,he used my son truck with out even thinking about replacing gas or thanking him for the use of the truck-but sat.nite  my son and my son in law and daugther when to a bar and my son in lw told my son he owes him $8.00 for drinks..this is only a mild example--he has done one greedy thing to us all..and it put a grey cloud over his head when it comes to doing anythin for him--then when my daugther confronts him about this he states it a joke or he was kidding..well we are tired of all the jokes and kidding--give me some advice to handle this before i completely refusse to do anything,plus i don't want ot hurt my daugther...
 
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July 25, 2007, 9:47 am PDT

Joking/kidding/manipulation

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maybe some one can give me advice on how to handle my son-in-law-he has noconcerns when it comes to helping family members out (doing favors) but he wants them returned to him--example--my son in law and daugther moved to a new home so myself my son and my boyfriend helped all weekend,he used my son truck with out even thinking about replacing gas or thanking him for the use of the truck-but sat.nite  my son and my son in law and daugther when to a bar and my son in lw told my son he owes him $8.00 for drinks..this is only a mild example--he has done one greedy thing to us all..and it put a grey cloud over his head when it comes to doing anythin for him--then when my daugther confronts him about this he states it a joke or he was kidding..well we are tired of all the jokes and kidding--give me some advice to handle this before i completely refusse to do anything,plus i don't want ot hurt my daugther...

Your son in law is a manipulator. Helping them to move was very kind of you, your boyfriend and son- but your kindness has to come out of the goodness of your heart when it comes to your son in law; because you KNOW that he won’t be giving back. It is really very sad, but you’ve got to face the truth at this point. Next time, if there is a next time, your son should tell him before hand that he would like the truck to have gas in it when it is returned. Of course, that is something that should be common sense; but obviously, it isn’t when it comes to your son in law. I know that these things add up and are very hurtful, but you will never change your son in law, so it is time to change the way that you react and interact with him so that you feel better about the outcome. I wish you well!

 
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August 19, 2007, 8:07 am PDT

The Meaning of "Family"

 Hello, I have a really confusing problem, and it actually is more than one with the majority of my family. But I will sart with, what I believe is what really started this. I am #8 of ten children, my father just passed away in January, he was 91. My mother and father had been married 61 years and still madly in love. My mother is 84 and was diagnosed with Alheimer's, and she is living with myself, my husband and our son, who is 18.
Well the whole thing started(I think) back in April. One of my sisters #3 and my brother #7 live in my parents house. Well back in April, they had a really big fight(about money) and my sister(#3) walked out and said she was leaving for good. My brother had to go back to work and my mother could not be left alone. He called 2 of my brothers who live closer to him than anyone else. They both would do nothing and said "it is your problem, deal with it". He then called another sister(#1) who lives near me. Her and her husband immediately went down to my mothers house. Since nobody was sure when my sister(#3) would return, they decided to bring my mother to their house. Let me backup a little, when my father passed away all of us knew we had to sell my parents home. We had been discussing for months what to do. We new my mother could not be there when we showed the house, and we knew she could not afford to rent or buy another house while that one was on the market. So,  I said "I have an extra room, move mom in here with me". Well that seemed to get everyone else VERY upset. The only ones that talk to me are my sister(#1), and a brother(#4) who lives in Baltimore. Things keep getting worse, none of the other 7 in my family are talking to the three of us. I have no idea what I did, since nobody is talking to us, they won't tell me anything. I do know some of them have told lies about me to the others, so I guess that is why some of them are mad at me. They have never tried to find out the truth, or the other side of the story, they just immediately believed everything the others told them.
Now, with all of that happening(and their is more, but for now that is a good start and the basic problem that started everything) none of the others have called my mother since May(mothers day). I did have to go out of town, so I did send out an e-mail and after quite a few weeks the others said they would take my mother for 1 1/2 weeks, that was the end of July. So they actually did talk to my mother at that time, and I guess in their eyes, that makes them never calling my mother  ok.
The other thing that really bothers me, is from the beginning nobody, except sister(#1) and brother(#4) have ever called me or helped me in anyway.
I'm really confused and hurt, I have no idea what I really did. So I am butting this story out to see if I could get an outside opinion to tell me what it is I really did becuase I have no idea.

 
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August 19, 2007, 3:17 pm PDT

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 Hello, I have a really confusing problem, and it actually is more than one with the majority of my family. But I will sart with, what I believe is what really started this. I am #8 of ten children, my father just passed away in January, he was 91. My mother and father had been married 61 years and still madly in love. My mother is 84 and was diagnosed with Alheimer's, and she is living with myself, my husband and our son, who is 18.
Well the whole thing started(I think) back in April. One of my sisters #3 and my brother #7 live in my parents house. Well back in April, they had a really big fight(about money) and my sister(#3) walked out and said she was leaving for good. My brother had to go back to work and my mother could not be left alone. He called 2 of my brothers who live closer to him than anyone else. They both would do nothing and said "it is your problem, deal with it". He then called another sister(#1) who lives near me. Her and her husband immediately went down to my mothers house. Since nobody was sure when my sister(#3) would return, they decided to bring my mother to their house. Let me backup a little, when my father passed away all of us knew we had to sell my parents home. We had been discussing for months what to do. We new my mother could not be there when we showed the house, and we knew she could not afford to rent or buy another house while that one was on the market. So,  I said "I have an extra room, move mom in here with me". Well that seemed to get everyone else VERY upset. The only ones that talk to me are my sister(#1), and a brother(#4) who lives in Baltimore. Things keep getting worse, none of the other 7 in my family are talking to the three of us. I have no idea what I did, since nobody is talking to us, they won't tell me anything. I do know some of them have told lies about me to the others, so I guess that is why some of them are mad at me. They have never tried to find out the truth, or the other side of the story, they just immediately believed everything the others told them.
Now, with all of that happening(and their is more, but for now that is a good start and the basic problem that started everything) none of the others have called my mother since May(mothers day). I did have to go out of town, so I did send out an e-mail and after quite a few weeks the others said they would take my mother for 1 1/2 weeks, that was the end of July. So they actually did talk to my mother at that time, and I guess in their eyes, that makes them never calling my mother  ok.
The other thing that really bothers me, is from the beginning nobody, except sister(#1) and brother(#4) have ever called me or helped me in anyway.
I'm really confused and hurt, I have no idea what I really did. So I am butting this story out to see if I could get an outside opinion to tell me what it is I really did becuase I have no idea.

It could be your willingness to help you mom in her time of need triggered some guilt complexes in the others because they are not as willing or able to help their mom so readily. It really has nothing to do with your per say other than the fact that it hurts your feelings, and is leaving you bewildered at what you did wrong. Well, hun you are feeling bewildered because in reality you did nothing wrong. You can not feel responsible for your siblings feelings, they have to take ownership of their feelings, not you. Pretty much your priority right now is the well being of you, your mom and your family.

Caring for an elderly parent who has memory loss is seriously not an easy thing to do! It is stressful and emotionaly and physically draining.

I am wondering what lies were told about you, and by which siblings. That really seems a petty thing for them to do, but if they can point fingers at someone else, it is likley to take the heat of off them.

As for sister number 1 and 4 be sure to let them know how much you appreciate their help and are grateful for the coming together to support each other through this very dificult time.

As for the other children, simply let them know that as the children of your mother they have every right to invest time, and what ever support they can offer to your mom. Let them know it is not about you, but your mom, and that you are sure they all want what is best for her.

As for the lies, when you do speak to the others, let them know that there has been a misunderstanding, or garbling of facts, and although your feelings were hurt, you are more interested in mending the diferences and moving on to a place were you can all rally together in this dificult time, as family is important to you. If a sibling continues to lie about  you, simply let them know that you know they are speading falsehoods about you, but you do not understand why they feel this need to hurt you in that way, and you are open to talking about it to try and reconcile. If they choose to continue spreading lies, you can calmly let the others know that you have tried to be open with this sibling and come together in the spirit of compassion and reconciliation, however, it seems they really want to hurt you, and you can not make amends for a real hurt or percived hurt, if you do not know what it is.

It is time to put the ball back in this siblings court, if they choose not to give you or themselves an opportunity to reconcile, then at least the others will know that you have made the attempt, and that it is entirley up to the other individual.

It s really hard to play victim, if the person you percive as the victimizer is sincerly wanting to make amends hey? In any event even if the others still choose to side with the sibling that has this vendetta, it will not matter you can rest easy knowing you were able, willing and sincerly wanting to come together and make amneds and reconcile the diferences.

Be open with the others and encourage them their time with you mom and thier input on what is best for your mom, take care of yourself and your family.

I really do wish you peae and serenity, and hope that your siblings can come to a place were they see the need to band together, rather than tear apart.

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Tammy

 

 

 

 
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August 24, 2007, 12:22 pm PDT

The meaning of "family"?

 My family gives a new meaning to the word "family".  After a emotional breakdown from not working in months and having a relationship end after 15 months and dealing with the fact that my mother was diagnosed with dementia and out of four children only one wants to designate as the controller of all, this gives me a new meaning of family.

 

 After having an argument (which was about my children, ages 9 and 20), she filed charges against me for communicating threats and assault. I suffered an anxiety attack at the police station and had to be taken to the hospital. The next day I'm arrested and spent 14 hours in jail. When I called my younger brother, who happens to be a minister, told me that I should call my daughter(whom at the time was in no position to help me being that she had a new born baby to take care of and was staying with her grandmother).  Then I called my oldest sister and after I was able to reach her she stated that she would sign for me to get out but if I didn't have a place to stay that it wasn't here fault and I could stay with her.

 

Oh, by the way did I mention that the sister that had the charges filed against me is a minister also? Because of all the hell breaking loose, I was forced to leave and stay in a transitional home where I am currently. Family--who knew??

 
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August 26, 2007, 7:36 pm PDT

Family? Live In Heartbreak Or Let It GO?HELP?

well. My name is Brooke. I am 16 years old and I live with my grandparents. Unfortunatley my mother is a drug addict.(Narcotics) and my father is an accesive alcoholic. I have not lived with them for almost four years now. BUT... for some reason the levels of my depression and worries only seems to rise. Im getting older now. Ill be 17 in December.. and they bothe believe that they have all of the time in the world to be parents so they choose to put me on the backburner. and Im so tired of terrible living situations and drugs being chosen over me. I will be graduating very soon. and who knows if they will be sober enough to attend... and i know that this is an extremity but what about marriage who am i supposed to have someday walk me down the aisle?... what am I supposed to tell my children when they get upset because they are never allowed to ride in the car or spen the night at Gramma's house?... It upsets me so much to know that not only have I had to live the life of the adult for the past 4 years... and I will have to count on planning my life without them. I've gone through so much. right now I probly sound selfish but when will I get a little satisfaction?.Is it so hard to ask for parents? I am the type of person who'd do anything for anyone.... and I dont ask much from people. Also there is a no win situation. I can't walk away. Ive tried. Through the years I've developed OCD. and my biggest fear is my mom dying. I feel that if I dont see her then she'll die. I am SO sick of being the adult.... I never had a child hood of my own. I grew up on lies and being told that I'd be nothing. I've gone through so much and I just don't know what to do. I know that you can't help someone unless help is what they  seek.I'm just so confused... is it time to let go?... Please Give Me Your Opinion? HELP?
 
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September 4, 2007, 6:45 am PDT

There is help

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well. My name is Brooke. I am 16 years old and I live with my grandparents. Unfortunatley my mother is a drug addict.(Narcotics) and my father is an accesive alcoholic. I have not lived with them for almost four years now. BUT... for some reason the levels of my depression and worries only seems to rise. Im getting older now. Ill be 17 in December.. and they bothe believe that they have all of the time in the world to be parents so they choose to put me on the backburner. and Im so tired of terrible living situations and drugs being chosen over me. I will be graduating very soon. and who knows if they will be sober enough to attend... and i know that this is an extremity but what about marriage who am i supposed to have someday walk me down the aisle?... what am I supposed to tell my children when they get upset because they are never allowed to ride in the car or spen the night at Gramma's house?... It upsets me so much to know that not only have I had to live the life of the adult for the past 4 years... and I will have to count on planning my life without them. I've gone through so much. right now I probly sound selfish but when will I get a little satisfaction?.Is it so hard to ask for parents? I am the type of person who'd do anything for anyone.... and I dont ask much from people. Also there is a no win situation. I can't walk away. Ive tried. Through the years I've developed OCD. and my biggest fear is my mom dying. I feel that if I dont see her then she'll die. I am SO sick of being the adult.... I never had a child hood of my own. I grew up on lies and being told that I'd be nothing. I've gone through so much and I just don't know what to do. I know that you can't help someone unless help is what they  seek.I'm just so confused... is it time to let go?... Please Give Me Your Opinion? HELP?
 Hi Brooke,

   I read your post and I would like to offer you my humble advice.
First, I am a 48 year old woman who decided not to raise a family
because I came from a family of  dysfunction and alcohol abuse. It wasn't until
later in my life that I found al-anon, and it has really helped me
cope with the emotional abuse and the character defects I have
developed because of my upbringing.

    You are at a point in your life that you could go to an al-anon group
for teens in your area, and benefit immensely. It's free, anonymous,
and you can just sit and listen at first, and then share your story when you are ready.
There is literature, supportive people and others who may share your experience.

    Just google "alanon" and the city you live in.
Al-anon is for people who have been affected by someone
close to them who is an alcoholic. There you can find out more
about support groups for teens which include narcotic-dependent
parents, etc... There is no reason for you to go this alone.
There is help. I wish you all the best.

Blessings, Katherine

  
 
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September 6, 2007, 6:15 am PDT

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Okey hi im erica.Im only 14 years old i live with my mom dad my 2 sisters and 2 brothers.I didnt no where to put this so i am putting it here.My family drives me crazy and i really mean crazy.I've tried killing myself before cause i was tired of living with them.They found out about one time i tried but thats it they don't no about the other times.Wonder"Whats so wrong with your family?" Well i'll answer that question.IThe down fall of our family first started i think when i was 12,Gabby (lilttle sister) was born then a couple days after that my dad got sent to jail for 2 years cause of a probation violation.So we had to pack up and go live in a trailor with only 2 rooms in a trailor park with my grandma.Me my brothers and sisters and mom shared one room in that trailor.With all the stress of Gabby and my dad being in jail everybody was like well annoyed of each other.Me and my mom always argued and she would hit me like punch me in the shoulder,back of my head,back,ect.Then me and my sister always argued and me and my grandma always argued.I thought itd get better when my dad got out of prison but it didnt it got worse.Me,mom,sister,and grandma still argued all the time and my mom and dad always argued.Well now it still isn't much better.
-We moved out the trailor park to NC and got a house.
-My older sister still lives with us and shes 19 i think or 20
-My dads an alcholic and all he does is drink
-Gabby well is 2 and out of control and always crys and if she dont get her way she hits bites ect
-Gabby says almost ever cuss word known to man
-Me and my mom still argue
-Me and my sister still argue

It just annoying living with these people i mean my bro Will aint that bad but he can get his temper and anger problems.O yea


-Mom=anger problems,always screaming or complaining
-Dad=well u no alcohoolic with anger problems
-Older sister=anger problems,big mouth,and pregant
-Brother Will=Can get anger moods but hes pretty much kool
-Older brother Steve=Dont live with us now my mom kicked him out..he was the only one of my family i rele never have argued or got in a fight with
Me=ill tell the truth yea i got anger problems when someone has an atittude with me

Well yea thats kinda a review of my live....and well some issues that need to be handled but i no my parents wont lisen to me if i bring it up theyd deny everything and all our problems...
 
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September 8, 2007, 6:17 pm PDT

What Do I Do, please help

OH GOSH SUCH A LONG STORY..

MY MOTHER DIED WHEN I WAS 13. I HAVE A HALF SISTER, SHE GREW UP WITH HER DAD.

WELL AFTER MY MOMS DEATH I WENT FROM FOSTER HOME TO FOSTER HOME, WHEN I TURNED 18 WENT ON MY OWN. TOOK A COUPLE WRONG TURNS DOWN THE ROAD BUT MADE A U-TURN. HAD TO WANTED CHILDREN AND WANTED TO BE A GREAT MOM. MY BOYS FATHER WAS BAD I LEFT HIM, HE ENDED UP IN JAIL NOT SOON AFTER. NOW I AM SO HAPPY TWO SONS A HUSBAND ...EVERYTHING PERFECT.

BUT NOW, I FIND OUT AFTER 6 YEARS OF NOT TALKING TO MY SISTER THAT SHE IS A DRUG ADDICT. SHE LOST HER CHILDREN. TWO IN WHICH ARE LIVING WITH MY SISTERS DRUNK ALL THE TIME  FATHER THE OTHER MAJOR HEALTH PROBLEMS AND IN A FOSTER HOME SOMEWHERE.

THIS IS THE ACTUAL PROBLEM, MY OLDEST NIECE (13 YEARS OLD ) CALLS ME AND TOLD ME HER MOM HAS CALLED HER. THEY TALKED FOR HOURS AND THAT SHE WANTS TO COME LIVE WITH ME. SHE WILL DO WHATEVER I SAY , IN OTHER WARDS ME HAVING ANOTHER CHILD WITH ADULT ISSUES. SHE HAS STOLEN THINGS FROM HER FAMILY, SHE HAS SOLD HER BODY FOR MONEY AND DRUGS, SHE HAS A LONG LIST OF CRIMINAL RECORDS. SHE WANTS MY HELP BUT I HAVE TRIED TO HELP MY X BEFORE. I KNOW THAT YOU CAN'T HELP SOMEONE IF THEY DON'T WANT TO BE BUT SHE SAYS SHE WANTS TO BE. THIS IS MARYLAND I LIVE IN A SMALL QUIET TOWN AND SHE LIVES IN BALTIMORE CITY. BALTIMORE CITY IS REALLY BAD. I JUST DON'T KNOW. I DO NOT WANT MY CHILDREN IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS.

I DON'T WANT THE CHILDREN TO BE AROUND ANY DRAMA OF THIS. BUT AT THE SAME TIME I DON'T WANT TO LEAVE MY SISTER, ALSO I HAVE NOT TALKED TO HER IN YEARS OR SEEN HER. I KNOW HOW SICK PEOPLE CAN BE, THIS COULD BE A TRAP YOU KNOW, MAYBE RUNNING OUT OF PLACES TO GET MONEY...I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF SHE WENT TO THE REHAB SHE WAS SUPPOSED TO GO TO OR MAYBE EVEN RAN FROM IT IN THE MIDDLE. I DO NOT KNOW ...WHAT WOULD YOU DO..PLEASE HELP.

 

 
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September 9, 2007, 4:43 pm PDT

Tough Love and Where do you draw the line?

This is such a long story and pray I can get some good advice!

 

My nephew was raised by my mother and father from the time he was six months old and I was 15 at the time, so we are kind of like brother and sister really. I eventually moved away from home and got married and now have a family of my own in a different state from my parents.  Anyway, a few years ago he got mixed up with the wrong crowd and was smoking marajuanna and to make matters worse, my mother was in very poor health and really was unable to handle this situation.  My husband and I  decided together to give him the option to come live with us and finish high school and to get a fresh start.  This was three and a half years ago and it has been no picnic!

The first year, he behaved and was ok, then the second year it began.  He was 17 and got involved with a 13 year old girl, a relationship that we tried to discourage.  One night, in the middle of the night, he took off in my husbands car while we were sleeping and went to her house and had sex in the back seat parked in her driveway with her parents inside!!  ALso, he did not have a drivers license!  My husband and I found out about all this from the neighbors teenage girl because everyone was talking about it at school.  THe next thing was on new years eve, the same year, he took the car again (him and the girl was broken up) and wrecked it, drove the car home and never told anyone what happened.  THe next morning, I went out to get in teh car and realized it had been in an accident.  we also realized at this time he had been cutting himself , not to commit sucide but more out of depression. AT this point we gave him an ultimatum, he was going to move back to south carolina , which he did not want to do, or he would go to a psychiatric hospital.  We had him admitted where he was evaluated and determined he was borderline bipolar.  The doctors witheld the bipolar diagosis because his mood swings were to wide spread so a definate pattern could not be established and he also is ADHD, which we knew to begin with. 

 

After he came home from the hospital, things seemed to be better, but then the same problems began to crop up again.  He lied and quit taking his medication, and began using marajuanna again and smoking cigarettes.  Our home was in constant uproar and I have three children of my own and they were tired of it too, even though they loved him very much.  THe cherry on the top was when he was busted at school high and had been drinking alcohol the night before and was suspenede for 10 days.  At this time he was in vocational training to become an EMT, so the school had to decide if they were going to let him back into the program at all.  This is when be decided to throw him out.  We bought him a plane ticket and sent him to south carolina.  However, he decided he wanted to come back to finish school and found some friends who said he could live with them.  He did finish school and he graduated this past May.  But now, he has no life plans.  We have encouraged the military, school etc. and he is not interested in any of it.  He moved out of his friends house and is now homeless and sleeping in tents or with who ever will put him up for the night.  He did manage to get a job at a retail store in town but has no car.

 

He came over to our house today and talked with my husband and asked if he could come back here to live.  I don't know what to do.  Part of me wants to let him, but the other side of me thinks it wil be the same thing all over again and I don't think my marrage and my kids can handle it. I wonder if he would be different this time, since he has lived on the street and he has an appreciation for how difficult the world truly can be.  ALso if he lived here, we could help him get a better paying job, because we could take him to work, where as now he is limited to just what is in town, and this is a small town with few options.

 

My husband and I are christians and we have spoken with several people at our church and have been praying diligently about this situation but we are still unsure of that to do.  My heart is very sensitive to him right now and I want to do what is best.  Does he need to live rough for awhile to learn life's lessons and will we be teaching him anything if we help him out?

 
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