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Created on : Thursday, July 07, 2005, 09:16:57 am
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They're there for you when nobody else is, and understand without  you having to explain. Have your loved ones shown you the true meaning of the word "family" with their actions? Share your story.

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February 2, 2006, 12:52 pm PST

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Hello everyone, 

I was married for 32 years.  

I have a sister who is 8 years older than me, I took in her into my home and life, after she found herself penniless and homeless after the death of her husband. I treated her like a queen she didn't have to work, clean or pay for anything. I have always been there for my sister and her family emotionally, loving, supporting, with money and feelings.  

I was in the hospital and when I got out I found out that my sister and husband were having an affair. YES, YOU READ IT RIGHT. 

After confronting both of them they denied it to everyone telling people it was my imagination. I finally proved that they were in fact having sex in my house, drugging me so I wouldn't wake up and catch them.  

SO THE MEANING OF FAMILY, I WISH I KNEW. 

I feel betrayed by the two most important people in my life. 

Wow is about all I can say.  That is really something.  Have you talk to both of them?  And does your husband want to stay with you and make it work and never do that again?  If that where me,  I really don't know what I would do.  You have to make a decision,  do you want to stay with him?  Can you forgive and her for that matter.  Well for one thing she has to move out.  I would never forgive my sister and we are really close, but she would never.  That is just a big NO, NO!!!!  I'm sorry for what has happend to you.  If you want to stay with him, I suggest you go to counceling, and maybe him as well.  As for your sister,  I would hope see has somewhere else to go, because obviously she can't stay there anymore.  Good luck to you.  You'll make the right choice. 
 
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February 2, 2006, 2:41 pm PST

There is help

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Don't you wish things would just slow down alittle.  Maybe, we all could think better and make better decisions.  I am 55 and married to a wonderful man who is 82.  We married 38 years ago today! We have one daughter who is 35 and a precious granddaughter who is 6.  Yes, everyone told me it wouldn't work, but it did.  We've had our ups and downs like any normal family, but having an understanding of family matters helped us through it.  Like many only children we spoiled our daughter.  We loved her so much and for her dad who was 47 when she was born, he was especially thrilled about being a father again.  You see he has three married kids who are older than I am. Since, I was just 16 when we married, he actually was raising two kids.  I guess you can say he spoiled both of us.  We worked hard raising our daughter the way I wish I had been raised, with love of family.  She had our granddaughter during her second marriage.  That's when things began to go wrong.  We were able and willing to care for our granddaughter so that her mom and dad could work.  We felt priviledged to do so.  My daughter and son-n-law(now ex) asked me to provide them with child care and I did for five years. My granddaughter was my life.  I never complained one time about paying for her clothes, education, dance class, t-ball, soccer, and etc.  I loved being a grandmother and her papa was the total financier and he loved it.  I noticed through the years that my daughter was beginning to disrepect me and showed alot of resentment because she felt I was taking her job of raising her child from her.  My granddaughter became so attached to me that during her 2-4 years she would accidentally call me mommie.  I never took it seriously, because she was a child, I just corrected her and said to call me grandma.  My daughter who does everything by the book (not Dr.Phil's books) heard my granddaughter call me mommie and had a fit. She told me that she thought my granddaughter was getting to close and would move her to someone else's care.  She accused me of many untrue things, that hurt me bad.  I felt my whole world crumple.  My little granddaughter was so confused.  Today, my daughter is newly married to a nice man with three little girls of his own.  We want so badly to be the blended family with more granddaughters to love. She controls everything in the marriage and gives us the impression that she does not want us involved.  You see it seems, she only needs us during her bad times.  I only get to see my granddaughter at school lunch on Thursdays and she even controls that.  My granddaughter doesn't understand whats going on and I never will tell her until she's old enough to understand.  I just let her know that grandma and papa are always here when she needs us. 

Our other problem, is our ex-son-n-laws visitation with our granddaughter.  When he has our granddaughter she will ask him to bring her to visit us and he does.  Well, when my daughter finds out she is so mad and thinks I'm taking his side.  No matter how much I explain, I communicate with him to see my granddaughter only.  I'm afraid, that if something ever happens to my daughter, I would never see my granddaughter. I stay so torn up all the time!  I'm thinking about seeing a attorney to check our legal rights as grandparents, but I hate the thought of legal action against family.  I hate dragging my little granddaughter into another court case, her parents had an ugly divorce and custody battle.  I wonder, if I should just lay low, keep all my feelings to myself and let time go by.  I just don't know how our granddaughter would take us abandoning her.  Please, if anyone has any suggestions or comments. Please let me know.  My family is worth the effort. 

Thanks, to Dr. Phil and Robin for their help with all family matters, we greatly appreciate the job you are doing to make this world better.  I wish your lessons could be taught in schools, starting at Pre-K. God Bless all you wonderful grandparents!  

I feel better already, thanks Samnan 

Hi there.  I can sort of understand how you feel.  I'm 33 with 2 kids.  And my ex tries to not let me take my kids out of state to see their other grandma.  But you can seek legal advice, because grandparents do have rights too.  Especially when you did nothing wrong.  And it is wrong of your daughter to do such a thing to a little girl who adores you so much.  Life is too short to be filled with stupid things like this.  Why can't she just let her see you?  Makes no sense.  But definitely see an attorney and see what you can do.  You have no reason not to see her.  And your grand-daughter probably won't be affected by this, because in most custody issues, children are always left out of the courts, unless the judge needs to hear from the child, so don't worry.  Do what you have to do and fight to see you grand-daughter.  : )
 
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February 2, 2006, 4:33 pm PST

No Morals and No Respect Anymore!

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Wow is about all I can say.  That is really something.  Have you talk to both of them?  And does your husband want to stay with you and make it work and never do that again?  If that where me,  I really don't know what I would do.  You have to make a decision,  do you want to stay with him?  Can you forgive and her for that matter.  Well for one thing she has to move out.  I would never forgive my sister and we are really close, but she would never.  That is just a big NO, NO!!!!  I'm sorry for what has happend to you.  If you want to stay with him, I suggest you go to counceling, and maybe him as well.  As for your sister,  I would hope see has somewhere else to go, because obviously she can't stay there anymore.  Good luck to you.  You'll make the right choice. 

I only wish everyone with bad intentions had a mother like I had.  I was raised to respect my family and friends not matter what.  I was taught the difference in right and wrong.  My mother was strict on all 6 of us kids and I used to hate her for it.  But, today I 55, and love her for it.  I have been married for 38 years and have had plenty of chances and reasons to cheat on my husband.  I married him for love and promised to be true.  It doesn't matter have much you want too,  just think about those you are hurting.  Think with your brain not your sexual urges.  Your sister couldn't control her sexual urges and neither could you husband. Neither of them had any respect for you.  I had a similar situation happen to me.  I worked as a nail technician and became close friends with a woman who was an Avon lady.  She was so sweet and after about two months of nail service, I really began to like her.  She would ask me questions about my husband and I would answer her with honesty.  She told me how lucky I was.  Well, to make long story short, she started calling him up on his cell phone making plans to meet at her house.  When I found out, I visited her home and found his truck parked in her driveway. Boy, talk about shock! I told this women about my whole life when I worked on her nails and now she's trying to steal my husband.  No, I never caught them in bed.  I think I find out just in time and I let her know and him too!  My husband swears he didn't do anything with her.  It's been 15 years, now, and I still haven't gotten over it.  You will never forget it, but I promise, you can forgive sister quicker than forgiving your husband.  It's hard, because you loved them both.  I have learned through my experience that only the strong survive.  I still have my husband today and the Avon Lady to without a man and job. 

Be strong, be proud and may your sister regain her respect and morals! 

Samnan  

 
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February 2, 2006, 9:24 pm PST

Asking for advice

I am wondering what, if anything, I should or could do about a situation . . . My husband of 21 years divorced me about 4 years ago (I was told that he didn't want to be married or be a "Dad" . . . he just wanted to do things he enjoyed without feeling guilty . . . ) 

My children were 16 and 19 at the time of the divorce . . . I found out after the fact that my husband had numerous affairs throughout our marriage . . . 

  

My ex-husband and I have come to terms with our divorce and issues . . . we are somewhat friends and have regular contact . . . My ex is living with a woman that he began dating about 6 months after our divorce . . . she has three children (all girls--ages 16, 10 & 8) each from a different father (she has been married three different times) and all of the girls live with her and my ex. 

  

He has now told me that he has found "religion" and intends to marry this woman . . . my children have told me that this woman seems to basically be okay but has problems (drinking, smoking, disciplining her children--the two oldest have snuck out of the house at night and the oldest is sexually active and into drugs) . . . I've also been told that she has been uncooperative in signing a strict prenuptial agreement (my ex and I had a very successful family business) and that has stalled the marriage from actually happening . . .  

  

All of these developments have been extremely difficult to understand (especially since he didn't want to be married and/or have to deal with teenagers) . . . My children are upset by all of this (my ex has moved his girlfriend and her children into a home that was previously our family home . . . he has spent a lot of money remodeling and has even put a fancy inground pool and hot tub in the backyard). 

  

I am really not bitter about all of this because I am very happy and independent living in another city where no one knows about all of this, but I am concerned about my children (they live in the same town as their father--where they have grown up and lived all of their lives) . . . I am also concerned about what my ex is doing to himself . . . 

  

Is there anything at all I can or should say or do? . . . Your varied perspectives would be most appreciated. 

  

  

 
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February 3, 2006, 7:11 am PST

Wish I Knew More

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 Maybe you know something I don't? I've read about Dr Phil's SIL, Cindi, and her courageous fight for life after a horrible and disfiguring accident. Before the accident she was a single mother raising 3 daughters. She worked 3 jobs to put them through college. She gave him permission to use her story in his book, ULTIMATE WEIGHT LOSS SOLUTION.
Could it be that it wasn't convenient FOR HER to have them decend upon her for a visit? Maybe it was mutually agreed that anytime she was free, she was welcome at their place.
Just a thought.

Sorry to say "I" unfortunately know NOTHING of the SIL or of the situation. I adore Dr. Phil and his advice and espouse many of the same mores and philosophies. I was just confused as to why he would admit to not wanting to be "bothered" (as I was lead to understand it) to visit, when he is always preaching about bringing family together and not apart.  I don't doubt that he has valid reasons for his decisions, but that's not he was represented. He was made to seem as if it was too much trouble and he couldn't be bothered, and, since he is such a highly respected and admired professional I was concerned that they may damage (to some) his authenticity. 

  

Thank you for your input. 

 
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February 3, 2006, 11:10 am PST

Ex husband moving on

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I am wondering what, if anything, I should or could do about a situation . . . My husband of 21 years divorced me about 4 years ago (I was told that he didn't want to be married or be a "Dad" . . . he just wanted to do things he enjoyed without feeling guilty . . . ) 

My children were 16 and 19 at the time of the divorce . . . I found out after the fact that my husband had numerous affairs throughout our marriage . . . 

  

My ex-husband and I have come to terms with our divorce and issues . . . we are somewhat friends and have regular contact . . . My ex is living with a woman that he began dating about 6 months after our divorce . . . she has three children (all girls--ages 16, 10 & 8) each from a different father (she has been married three different times) and all of the girls live with her and my ex. 

  

He has now told me that he has found "religion" and intends to marry this woman . . . my children have told me that this woman seems to basically be okay but has problems (drinking, smoking, disciplining her children--the two oldest have snuck out of the house at night and the oldest is sexually active and into drugs) . . . I've also been told that she has been uncooperative in signing a strict prenuptial agreement (my ex and I had a very successful family business) and that has stalled the marriage from actually happening . . .  

  

All of these developments have been extremely difficult to understand (especially since he didn't want to be married and/or have to deal with teenagers) . . . My children are upset by all of this (my ex has moved his girlfriend and her children into a home that was previously our family home . . . he has spent a lot of money remodeling and has even put a fancy inground pool and hot tub in the backyard). 

  

I am really not bitter about all of this because I am very happy and independent living in another city where no one knows about all of this, but I am concerned about my children (they live in the same town as their father--where they have grown up and lived all of their lives) . . . I am also concerned about what my ex is doing to himself . . . 

  

Is there anything at all I can or should say or do? . . . Your varied perspectives would be most appreciated. 

  

  

If you have accepted the divorce and truly moved on, what is the problem?  

It sounds as though he is "making his own bed," so to speak... don't you think? I think this new woman brings a sense of excitement and newness to his life that he didn't feel before, and it has made him change his mind about all of the reasons he claimed to need a divorce from you for. With this new "excitement" is it possible that your ex has started to drink too much, too? That is a possible reason for his change in behavior.  

I know that you are concerned for your children, but they are adults now, and the only thing you have any control over is your own relationship with them. (You didn't express any exact problems that they have with this situation.) As for your ex, why would you be concerned about what he is doing to himself? He left you. Being concerned for him is just like handing him your personal power, and its not your place to do that. He's a grown man... and although it sounds like his decisions are wacky, he must have reasons why he is making them. Let go. Do things that make YOU happy. You need to put your focus on your own life and your own happiness.  

 
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February 5, 2006, 10:19 pm PST

Just a thought

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Sorry to say "I" unfortunately know NOTHING of the SIL or of the situation. I adore Dr. Phil and his advice and espouse many of the same mores and philosophies. I was just confused as to why he would admit to not wanting to be "bothered" (as I was lead to understand it) to visit, when he is always preaching about bringing family together and not apart.  I don't doubt that he has valid reasons for his decisions, but that's not he was represented. He was made to seem as if it was too much trouble and he couldn't be bothered, and, since he is such a highly respected and admired professional I was concerned that they may damage (to some) his authenticity. 

  

Thank you for your input. 

 I probably know even less about Dr Phil's family then anyone, however the messages I pick up from Dr Phil are that the most important people are your immediate family, e.g. spouse, and children, not forgetting yourself.  Your extended family comes next on the list e.g. parents, siblings of your own and your partner's. Therefore whatever problems there are in your extended family,  can be  shared , but if you have plenty going on  in your immediate family  then  you can't be expected to  treat them as your highest priority. Your own health, well being and that of your own family must be at the front of your mind. I should imagine that over the years in Dr Phil's family he has had young children to cope with, a wife to keep a good relationship with, which presumably won't have been too easy if he was carving out a successful medial career and a successful media career. So whatever was going on with his in-laws he would have had to keep all of that  low down on his list . Going visiting sister-in-law wouldn't be top of his list of ways to spend the (presumably) limited spare time he would have whilst forging ahead in the world of TV and medicine.
Presumably Robin would visit her family without husband, and I'm sure all of us know that when sisters ger together all we do is yakkity yak, and husbands aren't too enamoured with just sitting about listening to that!!!!!
Just a thought, if we all lived that way, (i.e. putting our immediate family top of our list to the exclusion of everything else)  then extended family time could be easily fitted into our lifestyles.
Just a thought.
 
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February 6, 2006, 12:30 am PST

kids, and a drug addict mother

WHAT DO I DO.... THIS IS HOW THE STORY IS....THE KIDS SAW ME AND WANTED TO WALK MY DOG FOR A SONIC BURGER....I DIDNT THINK OF ANYTHING AT FIRST UNTIL THEIR MOTHER ASKED ME TO T AKE THEM TO A HOMELESS SHELTER, AND MY REPLY WAS WELL I LL TAKE YOU BUT NOT THE KIDS...AND MY CO WORKER WAS THERE AND SAID TO ME DONT YOU SEE WHATS HAPPENING? I SAID NO....HE IS THE ONE THAT SAID SHE WAS A DRUG ADDICT...I DID MANAGE TO GET HER INTO NEXUS BUT TO THIS DAY ITS NOT WORKING....SHE BACK IN MAY CALLED ME TO COME GET THE KIDS AND I DID...THEY ARE SUCH GREAT KIDS AND NEVER EVER WANT TO GO BACK TO MOM AT ALL. THERE IS SO MUCH MORE TO THE STORY, BUT I JUST CANT FOR THE LIFE OF ME JUST UNDERD THE DRUG WORLD AND SOME ONE THAT WOULD JUST LEAVE TWO KIDS WITH ME AND I WAS ACTUALLY A STRANGER...SHE TRUSTS ME AND SHE TOLD ME THAT SHE WAS GOING TO USE THIS TIME TO GET STRAIGHT, I DONT EVEN KNOW WHERE SHE IS....THATS JUST NOT RIGHT! I HAVE SO MUCH MORE TO SHAREL....
 
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February 6, 2006, 1:39 am PST

KIDS

I know in my heart that these kids are so scared and act so tough,  and to hear them about their past and to hear so grown up they are...its sad ...their biggest fear is Dennis the mothers boyfriend...and the kids have lived with their grandparents for 8 yrs,  

 that tells what kind of parent she is....she also has 2 older daughters that does not ever want to have  anything to do with her.... 

FOR SOME REASON I FEEL LIKE I AM BEING JUST USED HERE I AM TAKING CARE OF HER KIDS WHILE SHE IS JUST DOING WHAT SHE WANTS!   IM PRETTY TOUGH....JUST LIKE P AND R AND I DONT PUT UP WITH CRAP.............MY CONCERN ON LETTING YA'LL KNOW IS THAT I TRUST DR. P  AND I REALLY WANT HIM AND OR ROBIN TO TALK TO THE KIDS. THATS MY DREAM! 

  

  

 
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February 6, 2006, 2:25 pm PST

Please Help

Please pray for Jennifer Kesse, 24. She has been a missing person for over 2 weeks from the Orlando, FL area. Please post her website in hopes someone will see this and possibly help us find her: http://jenniferkesse.com/ God Bless.
 
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