Topic : The Meaning of "Family"

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Created on : Thursday, July 07, 2005, 09:16:57 am
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They're there for you when nobody else is, and understand without  you having to explain. Have your loved ones shown you the true meaning of the word "family" with their actions? Share your story.

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August 23, 2006, 5:12 pm PDT

The Meaning of "Family"

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 My husband and I have a 2 year old son together and I am currently 7 months pregnant with our second child. I have an issue with my husband and his family. His family and my family live 2 1/2 hours away. When we go to one of his families functions i end up leaving by myself with our son to stay at my parents house because he has been drinking and does not want to leave he wants to stay and party on with his family.  This happens every time we go to sydney to visit our families. Only recently we went to sydney for his sisters 21st birthday party a week before we made a compromise that we would leave at 10.30pm and get our son home to sleep at my parents house. The morning we were leaving our son got sick with croup but we still went down to sydney. When we got to sydney he met up with his mates and i stayed at my parents house before the party and looked after our sick son. Because our son did not sleep during the day on the way over to the party he fell asleep in the car. I let him sleep till about 8.30pm and decided i better waker him or he will be up all night well when I woke him he was very unhappy and still unwell and all he wanted to do was sit in the car he did not want anyone near him or could I get him out of the car to go into the party. So by 9.00pm i decided that was it he was too unhappy and unwell and crying alot to take him home to my parents house but my husband refused to come because it wasn't 10.30pm yet. We argured and he got very verbal (name calling)  and abusive (as he does when he drinks alot) and I ended up leaving by myself once again. How can I make my husband wake up to himself and start acting like a proper husband and family man before its too late. We have a wedding to go to in november and i am worried it is going to happen again but this time I will have a 4 week old newborn to worry about too. HELP I am so depressed and unhappy I do not think I can take it anymore.
First comment to your message is that your husband has NO right to verbally abuse you drunk or sober name calling is abuse and that needs to STOP.  Have you visited the abuse website on these message boards? it's under marraige.  Have you considered going to counselling even by yourself to deal with the hurt that this inflicts on you because I know from experience that you must be feeling hurt and rejected.  Out of curiousty why don't you ever stay with his family?? How old are you and your husband?? I understand your husbands need to visit with his friends and family when he is at home Have you ever considered having your parents or some one sit with your kids while you join your husband.  I sense that you are feeling a little left out and consumed by family responsibility.  I am not saying that it's right what your husband does he needs to understand that there is a time for family and friends but in the end his commitment should be to his wife and children.  Does he understand how this makes you feel have you talked honestly with him about this?
 
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August 23, 2006, 8:45 pm PDT

he has taken you for granted

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First comment to your message is that your husband has NO right to verbally abuse you drunk or sober name calling is abuse and that needs to STOP.  Have you visited the abuse website on these message boards? it's under marraige.  Have you considered going to counselling even by yourself to deal with the hurt that this inflicts on you because I know from experience that you must be feeling hurt and rejected.  Out of curiousty why don't you ever stay with his family?? How old are you and your husband?? I understand your husbands need to visit with his friends and family when he is at home Have you ever considered having your parents or some one sit with your kids while you join your husband.  I sense that you are feeling a little left out and consumed by family responsibility.  I am not saying that it's right what your husband does he needs to understand that there is a time for family and friends but in the end his commitment should be to his wife and children.  Does he understand how this makes you feel have you talked honestly with him about this?
and he knows,or thinks you are trapped in the marriage,my advise to you would be to break away from him,easy said i know,but if you left,he may come to his senses,and if you allowed him back into your life it would have to be on your terms..my motto is 'take crap from no-one"..good luck dear
 
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August 23, 2006, 9:17 pm PDT

my ex-wife deserted our daughters for a man she met online

 Im concerned about people meeting on the internet,my ex-wife has deserted our two daughters then aged 15 and 17,she is now living in florida with a guy i only know as 'clay'.

WE ARE NOW SPLIT UP AS A FAMILY,my eldest girl who is a sickness beneficiary lives with me in new zealand,my youngest girl having had a blazing row with clay at the first few weeks of living in

florida now lives in the UK..my daughter who is living with me really misses her mom,and crys a lot.surely the guy clay should have thought of this when

enticing my ex-wife away to live with him,or is he totally selfish ? Also my ex-wife has left a string of debt behind and im paying it

off,and to cap it all she is trying to sell our home here in new zealand.

 
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August 26, 2006, 6:41 am PDT

Greed is the green-eyed monster!

Hi, my parents have 40 acres of land in the fastest growing county in the country or in the state. The problem is they have been selling it left and right to family members (distant and close). My parents have 5 children and they told us that the land was in a trust and would be divided evenly amongst us kids. My mom has sold 8 acres to "fix up her house". How do I get over this?! I am too embarrassed to even go visit my parents. I meet my mom every now and then for lunch, but yesterday we had a very heated arguement about the land and her beginning to "sell" it. It makes me so mad! I have 60k worth of student loan debt and my parents could care less. I know the trend today is that parents need to concern themselves first with their finances and not to worry about their children, but my parents would literally help someone off the street before they would do for their kids. How do I get over this realization of knowing that I may never have nothing because my parents are selling it away? They even gave my brother a copy of the will. How come I didn't get a copy? I'm very hurt, angry, and confused. thanks.
 
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August 26, 2006, 5:00 pm PDT

Greed

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Hi, my parents have 40 acres of land in the fastest growing county in the country or in the state. The problem is they have been selling it left and right to family members (distant and close). My parents have 5 children and they told us that the land was in a trust and would be divided evenly amongst us kids. My mom has sold 8 acres to "fix up her house". How do I get over this?! I am too embarrassed to even go visit my parents. I meet my mom every now and then for lunch, but yesterday we had a very heated arguement about the land and her beginning to "sell" it. It makes me so mad! I have 60k worth of student loan debt and my parents could care less. I know the trend today is that parents need to concern themselves first with their finances and not to worry about their children, but my parents would literally help someone off the street before they would do for their kids. How do I get over this realization of knowing that I may never have nothing because my parents are selling it away? They even gave my brother a copy of the will. How come I didn't get a copy? I'm very hurt, angry, and confused. thanks.
Who are you saying is greedy? You said that you were told the land was in a trust and would be divided evenly amongst the kids, it would be reasonable of you to ask either your parents or your brother about this. Perhaps your brother has a copy of the will because he will be the executor? In my own experience, my sister was named executor when my father became ill and she had a copy of the will the day after it was made.
Why can’t your mother fix up her home? She is your mother, however, you are an adult. As for your student loans, those are yours. Your mother isn’t a mind reader- if you need financial help, you shouldn’t hint about it- you should come right out and ask.
 
 
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August 27, 2006, 8:51 pm PDT

the childs right to financial security and love

I was disgusted today by the attuide of the young man who has a beautiful daughter and he accepts no responsibility for her in anyway just because of "he isn't ready to be a father" How does he or any of us truly know until we are faced with any situation what we are able to cope with ? This seem to me to have been taken over by the other two gentlemen for some sort of politicial manipulation. His rights should not be placed before the rights of the child and if I could, I would tell him to grow up and be a Man! Being responsilbe for your own actions is the most important thing. He chose to have sex and as a result he is a father. I would feel real concern for him to have access to the child but YES YES  YES hould be made to assst in her support. What of the grandparents? Do they and she miss out on their relationship because of this silly boy. This opens some truly worring issues of the rights fo women and their children. Will women be made to have abbortions just to suit the man or to give up there child just because he dosen't want to pay childsupport. I was very impressed with the attitude of the young lady involved and I hope you can offer her all the support you can.I would like to follow the progress of this story and hope you will keep us informed.
 
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August 30, 2006, 9:21 pm PDT

The Meaning of "Family"

Quote From: julia470

First comment to your message is that your husband has NO right to verbally abuse you drunk or sober name calling is abuse and that needs to STOP.  Have you visited the abuse website on these message boards? it's under marraige.  Have you considered going to counselling even by yourself to deal with the hurt that this inflicts on you because I know from experience that you must be feeling hurt and rejected.  Out of curiousty why don't you ever stay with his family?? How old are you and your husband?? I understand your husbands need to visit with his friends and family when he is at home Have you ever considered having your parents or some one sit with your kids while you join your husband.  I sense that you are feeling a little left out and consumed by family responsibility.  I am not saying that it's right what your husband does he needs to understand that there is a time for family and friends but in the end his commitment should be to his wife and children.  Does he understand how this makes you feel have you talked honestly with him about this?
I am currently 8 months pregnant and the  reason why i never like  to stay at his parents house is  1. I have to sleep on the lougne which is uncomfortable and  2 they party into the night with loud music and it keeps me and our son awake, staying at my parents house is easier as they have a granny flat. We are both 32. We have talked about it but we end up arguing. His friends are still all single as well so they tend to lead him astray.
 
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August 31, 2006, 11:23 am PDT

Do I ensure my children's happieness or my own?

 My husband & I share a very tough marriage. At 3 months pregnant, we married against both of our wished but felt we were doing what was right for our family. From the beginning, our marriage was stressed with no foundation to build on. We weren't in love with each but had a great deal of respect for one another and wanted to make this work for our son. My husband chased me until the day we got married.The day after our wedding, he was at work. I cried for weeks realizing what I had gotten myself into. Our son was born 2 months early as a result of the stress in the marriage. After his arrival, we sought christian counseling and were making great strides in our relationship but they just weren't enough to keep us together. After consultation from my husbands family he decided we should try a new start in a new place. So we packed up and moved. Leaving MY entire support system 40 hours away. It has been well over a year and we now also share a second child. My dilema is this... my husband is a good man and a good father. He isn't mean to me and never has been. Although the father part has been a work in progress, he has made great strides.

He comes from a very broken home and I come from a very happy home. My parents have always been together. So I understand that we both brought different expectations into the marriage. My husband lies to me and I know it. I have pushed the trust issue before but it brought great debate, so I just leave it alone now.  But since we have moved, he has taken on a job in car sales. He honestly works from 8am until nearly 10pm nearly 7 days a week. Since we have moved to the west and cost of living is MUCH higher & he is on commision sales, he usually works his days off as well. As a stay at home mom, I  understand how hard he is working for our family. My personal issue is this... this has been the roughest year of my life. My second day in the area I was left alone and he began his insane work schedule. He didn't even take the time to show me the town but wrote out some major highways on a piece of paper. I have shared two high risk pregnancies with this man. Both of which, I was alone in.  In fact, many times I was in the hospital alone because he coudlnt' leave work. Many times I had to drive myself to the hospital in pre term labor trying to find some where to take my 2 year old son. In fact, within 2 days of delivering my second son... he was back at work. Thankfully, my family hopped a plane, and came to help me. Although I attend some mommy groups and have found some peace in the church, I can't help but feel so neglected. I am not expecting prince charming, I don't live in a fantasy world. I just want my husband to be in love with me and at the end of the day show me some emotional gratification. I need that from him so I continue to move on here with the children.  We have spoken about this many times and he says he knows he needs therapy, he doesn't know why he pushes me away. I sit next to him on the couch , try to kiss him and he pulls away or moves. We share two happy boys, although our oldest is going through autism screenings with likely positive results. So I am dealing with that on my own as well. I do most eveyrthing alone. I lead the family in nearly every where but financial. My husband controls all the finances. Yet, he is not financially responsible. We have moved into 4 different homes in the past year and will soon be filing bankruptsy. My only support is a few of his family members that are here. But I can't trust them with my feelings and I am honeslty afraid if I try to leave him they will interfere.   I no longer hold any resentment or hatred towards this man. I just feel well, "nothing." I have come to learn that I have no expectations from this man. Anytime I expected him to be there or be responsible, my heart got broken.   I do have a degree but haven't worked in 3 years. What does a stay at home mom who loves her children do  in a lonely, neglected marriage? Is it possible for a 29 year old woman to stay emotionally numb and still raise well adjusted sons? Please help me. I feel so trapped.

 

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September 5, 2006, 12:45 pm PDT

Family Members Never Discussed

 

Growing up, one of my grandfathers (my dad's dad) was never talked about. As a kid I never thought much about it because he passed away way long before I was born. I remember over hearing a few voices being raised between the adults and my grandfather's name being men -tioned from time to time. All I knew was that he would disappear ( leave the house and not come back for days or a few months at a time ). I knew my dad did not get along with him.

 

Three years ago, when my dad passwed away, my stepmom gave me a box with some things (information / papers etc) of my grandmother's. There were also some newspaper articles about my grandfather. One of the articles had a picture with some men carring a stretcher out of some woods. I came to find out that my grandfather commited suicide. He slit his throat with a razor. In another article it aslo mentioned that my great uncle ( my grandfather's brother)  had killed himself the same way with the same razor. I was stunned. He had mental health problems.

 

Right after my dad's death ( heart attack ), i was having some mental health issues. I went to therapy and I was put on meds. It was discovered I was bipolar. After discussing life growing up and some adulthood issues, the diagnoss answered some things for me. It made me understand why I acted a certain way, made choices in my life and done certain things. I also had my doubts that I was really bipolar because it seems we've heard so many stories about excuses of bipolar disorder in the past few years. When my meds worked with the first week of being put on them I suddenly felt normal, I excepted it. I still have issues that I manage and I still see someone.

 

Sorry for the run on here.

I was angry that my family never told me about my grandfather's condition as I got older. Medically that is very important. When my doc asked me about pass illness in my family I told him there were none. Me knowing might have made a difference in my seeking help or understanding of my condition eariler than at 47.

 

Please discuss mental health issues with your family no matter how embarassing it might be. It's nothing to be ashamed of. I feel so much better and my life is happier. I wish my family had told me when I was at an age when I would have understood.

 
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September 5, 2006, 9:18 pm PDT

The Meaning of Family

Quote From: crane130

In fact let me ask another question along with my last one, who should come first, your spouse or your children? And who should you love more?

I don't think it is a question of loving your kids or your spouse more.  The love you feel for your spouse is different from the love you feel for the children.  You don't love your husband like a child.  Dr. Phil always says that there are different accounts when it comes to love. 

 

In my case,I would not trade my husband for my children, nor would I trade my children for my husband.

 

As to which comes first, I would say that the "family unit" comes first.  The husband and wife need to be in love with each other and do what is best for the family.  Personally, the children's needs should come first, BUT NOT their wants.  For example, if the baby is hungry or the toddler is hurt, then they need to be tended to immediately.  However, if the husband or wife has need of their spouse and the children have a particular want that isn't a need, then the needs of the spouse comes first. 

 

If the mother and father provide a firm foundation for the family with their love and commitment to each other, then the children can not help but have a secure, loving environment to grow up in.  However, if the children come first in everything, no matter what, then they will grow up thinking that the world revolves around them.  And that is not good for anyone.

 

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