Quote From: bjkochenDear Dr. Phil,
This is all about mother, daughter communication breakdown. We went from a most incredible relationship of love and friendship to a thick wall between us. It seems to have happened after she married. Karen is a beautiful girl, has a great husband, who is a trememdous father and good provider. Karen and Jeff have 2 girls, my grandaughters, ages 10 and 12. We live about 20 minutes away and most of Jeff's family also live in the area.
Problem: I0 days ago I made arrangements to pick the girls up on this past Saturday AM, spend the day, go see a play and bring them home after breakfast on Sunday morning. As it turns out, Hailey, the youngest had a previously planned B-day party that Karen had overlooked. Understandably, with busy schedules, so it was decided it was going to be one on one time with Lauren, age 12 and me. On Friday, I received a call from Karen that said, "Lauren received an invitation to a b-day party a couple of weeks ago and she said, she didn't like the girl and didn't want to go. Now she has found out that some of her friends are going, so now she wants to go to the party instead of coming with you. You will be getting a call from Lauren and she is going to try to talk you into letting her go. Stand your ground and don't give in. Jeff and I have both told her "no"! She has been told that she was to call you 3 days ago, and she put if off and didn't do as she was asked. " I agreed, thinking that I would just be supporting their decision.
The phone call came from Lauren and I firmly told her I would pick her up at 11AM on Saturday morning. Little did I know, she had been told, by her mother, "that's between you and your Gramma". (meaning going to the party or coming with me) Well...that gave Lauren an open door and I was in the middle, and she wasn't going to give up. It is not fair to me and is not my job as a Gramma, to discipline and enforce. I called to let Karen know that I did not want to be put in that position, and that it literally made me sick . That is not the kind of relationship that Lauren and I have and I had not been part of her lack of follow through. I was told in no uncertain terms that I had been warned...etc..etc.. and exactly why she warned me, is so that she wouldn't be having this conversation with me. I was then given my instructions that I am to make plans directly with the girls and Karen is not going to mediate my relationship with them. I was told that the kids aren't in diapers anymore, don't have diaper bags and Karen doesn't have to pack them, they both have cell phones and I have to make my arrangements with them, she doesn't want to be involved. Then Karen yelled at Lauren to come and talk to "her grandmother" on the phone, because she was tired of being yelled at by me over the situation.
Well, Lauren did not come to spend the day, we didn't go to the play and she didn't spend the night. She did not go to the party, but she was allowed to have a friend spend the night and her Granny (Jeff's Mom) took them ice skating. I personally think that is a very poor message to send to a 12 year old.
I did make an attempt to take them to a movie on Sunday, by communicating directly with the girls via their cell phones. Without the details, it did not work out well (not even close) and understandably so .... and now my son-in-law is in the mix.
This is obviously not the first disagreement, hurt feelings and misunderstanding that has occured between Karen and me. I have several questions:
Based on my perception of what occured ( I know there are always 2 sides to a story) where did I go wrong? What could I have done to prevent this situation? How can it be fixed?
There is no denying that I go between hurt feelings and anger. I really don't know how to handle any of this.
I think that Lauren should have been given the option to keep her commitment with me or stay home, even though she didn't go to the party, she should not been able to have a friend spend the night and go ice skating. Am I off base?
Thanks for your input.
BJ
BJ
I was so saddened by your post. First of all, you are not to blame for what happened and shame on your daughter for making it seem so. She is abdicating her responsibility to and for her girls.
Were they my children, I would have insisted that they either go with you as promised, or stay home. There would not have been a third option.
Your daughter is not teaching them to honor their commitments. Nor is she teaching them to respect the feelings of others.
I find it ridiculous that these girls, at ages 10 and 12, have cell phones, let alone the freedom to organize their social calendars without parental input. The long-term implications of this lack of parental involvement are frightening.
I'm not sure there is anything you can do to smooth this over. Maintain your relationship with your granddaughters but understand that, unless or until their mother opens her eyes, you may be playing second fiddle to their friends and other activities.
Keeping a good thought for you.