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Created on : Thursday, July 07, 2005, 09:18:00 am
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Whether it stems from substance abuse, violence or manipulation, some family relationships are harmful and need to be terminated until the abuse stops. Are you involved in a toxic relationship?

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July 20, 2006, 8:40 am PDT

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I just had an arguement with my mother. I was sexually abused by my brother from age 6-14 years old. My brother is 3 1/2 years older than me. In my family of 8 kids, you always had to listen to the older children. I told my mother when I was 17 what happened. At first she took me to a counselor, but then the counselor told her he would have to turn my brother in. She immediately pulled myself and my younger sister out of counseling. She is in the education field and didn't want her name to be associated with this dark secret. She told me to get on with my life and not to tell my dad or I'd destroy the family. I graduated high school, went to the mandatory 1 year college she wanted me to attend and then joined the army and got married. I lived away pretty much my whole life since 20. My neices have now disclosed that he has molested them. My mom did turn my brother in this time. But now, she was having a conversation with me saying that my neice is acting irrational to her and screaming at her and such for no reason. My neice has every reason. This didn't have to happen. My brother should have been dealt with long ago. I am sure there are countless children he has molested and still the state of Washington still hasn't done anything to prosecute him. I am thinking of calling it quits with my mom. About 10 years ago, she called the police on me because I told everyone in my family what he did. It was terrible. She also told my siblings that I beat her up. I would never lay a hand on my mother. She was very agressive growing up due to the fact her father was extremely abusive to her. She is a good person, but I don't think I can handle anymore turmoil with her not "getting it".
 
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July 20, 2006, 11:21 am PDT

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It seems like from both of your posts.........I read the one in Competitive Relationships also.......that you are bound and determined to prove your mom wrong...........But Have you ever thought about What if she is Right????  You mentioned an older sister that ended up pregnant.........Is this Really what you are looking for in Life.........?????  You have your whole Life ahead of you........Why are you in such a Hurry????  Is your boyfriend going to stick by your side when you are Pregnant????  When money runs short and the baby needs fed........and needs shots at the doctor.......and you have been up all night with a sick child????  He is mature enough to handle No Sex because you are pregnant???  Just because you are sixteen..........doesn't automatically Make You Mature Enough or your boyfriend Mature Enough to Handle REAL LIFE>>>>>>>>Real Life......is Bills......Car Breaking down........Finding a Place to live........Doctor Bills........Working to pay the Bills......Cleaning House........It is a Never Ending Cycle of Chores...............Yes CHORES..................Yes.......You will Grow  Up with or without your Mother.........But wouldn't you rather do this at the Right Time in Your Life.............When YOU ARE READY.............ARE YOU READY for the CHORES?????  Nobody else is going to do them...........Nobody will finish School for you........Take care of your Baby.......Take care of Your Husband........Take Care of Your House.........Take Care of The Bills.........and at 16...............YOU NEED TO Finish SCHOOL...........You Can have a Boyfriend at any time in your Life............Your Education.......and Your Future..........is UP TO YOU......................Think About It..........YOUR MOM IS RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Honestly i don't think my mom is right. And i don't care if you think she is. It's not like i'm going to do all of this right away. I do plan to finish school and so does my boyfriend. I see nothing wrong with being in love with someone and wanting to be with them for the rest of your life. Even if you say we wouldn't know what love really is. Everyone's got their own definition for love. And you know what, i don't appreciate you thinking that i'm some cocky kid who thinks they know everything. I know what real life is. i cook, i clean, and i do things for myself all the time. Where was my mom when i had to teach myself how to cook and clean? Why doesn't any one think about that? By the way i don't have a baby. And when you say i can get a boyfriend anytime, i wouldn't believe that if it was tattoed on me. I'm not going to let someone pass me by like that. You wouldn't would you? If you knew he was the one for you? I'm not asking my mom for the world. I need to let me be my own person and not try to make me everything that she thinks i should be.  If your mom did this to you when you were my age you would be bitchin the same things. I don't want her to treat me like i'm two any more.  You can say she's right but if you knew her you might change your mind.
 
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July 20, 2006, 12:46 pm PDT

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Honestly i don't think my mom is right. And i don't care if you think she is. It's not like i'm going to do all of this right away. I do plan to finish school and so does my boyfriend. I see nothing wrong with being in love with someone and wanting to be with them for the rest of your life. Even if you say we wouldn't know what love really is. Everyone's got their own definition for love. And you know what, i don't appreciate you thinking that i'm some cocky kid who thinks they know everything. I know what real life is. i cook, i clean, and i do things for myself all the time. Where was my mom when i had to teach myself how to cook and clean? Why doesn't any one think about that? By the way i don't have a baby. And when you say i can get a boyfriend anytime, i wouldn't believe that if it was tattoed on me. I'm not going to let someone pass me by like that. You wouldn't would you? If you knew he was the one for you? I'm not asking my mom for the world. I need to let me be my own person and not try to make me everything that she thinks i should be.  If your mom did this to you when you were my age you would be bitchin the same things. I don't want her to treat me like i'm two any more.  You can say she's right but if you knew her you might change your mind.
Why are you asking for Help?????  Apparently...............You have it All Figured Out......Anyway.........."Love" at 16.................is very different than "Love" at 25................And I didn't say you Had a Baby........You stated that your older sister has one........Maybe you should Ask Her About This????????
 
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July 20, 2006, 1:36 pm PDT

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I have read everyones messages and I feel that mybe my life isn't that bad. But then again. We're all different. I am 17 years old and I live with my mom. The person I am to call my father lives in Myrtle Beach. Good for him. MY mom has been divoreced for almost 18 years now. And we have an okay relationship. yay? My dad has recently moved down there to be with his new girlfriend and her daughters. Jealous? Yes...yes I am. My father didn't want me and asked for my mom to have me aborted. But she wanted me to live. She had, had 5 miscarrages and wanted me...to surrvive. But anyhow, my father told me he was moving down there with a friend....he didn't mention his girlfriend or her two daughters. His gf ( girl friend)'s oldest is about 17...and he treats her like she's...his blood. Good for her. But...I do hate her and her mom and sister. Part of me feels that they have taken what relationship I had with my father and....wont give him back. I haven't seen my father since Dec 12, 2004. He called me to my face when I was in 6th grade...the milk mans daughter. I was Daddy's girl....every fathers day I made sure that all day I thought of him...and tried so hard not to get jealous of all the other kids around me. ......His gf wont let him talk to me much, and he doesn't do anything to contact me. I guess....he still doesnt want me. ....and I just cant accept that fact. I refuse to. .....I want my daddy back.....I want him to care about me.....
 
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July 20, 2006, 3:34 pm PDT

WOW! thought maybe I was alone.....

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sorry said 'need' him...I ment to type - I don't need him. Thing is I have made sure I don't have any 'need' for him by having no expectations...so if I don't speak to him often and don't have any 'need' for him why do I keep feeling like this? What is stopping a 33 year old grown woman with her own husband and baby from moving on?? I want to let go of these feelings but perhaps I feel I need to forgive him to do so...and I don't know if I can as he's put himself first so many times...I forgave him once with my mothers best friend as he told me it was love etc.. we (the family) all worked so hard to get along and we came such a long way...then he cheated on her (we think)..so why forgive and forgive...Oprah said when somebody shows you what they are like the first time don't make them show you again and again...so true...so he has shown his true colours...why can't I let him go?

your dad and my mom should get together and go bowling! The truth is forgiving him is your only option. For your own sanity forgive him for being inept. His short-comings are just that his. try to get past what he did so it doesn't tear apart your life. I feel certain that he is spending way less effort thinking of what he did or how it affected you. I could write all day about the emotional ringer my mother has put me through in 30 years, but the truth is the only way to get over it is to stop reliving it.
 
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July 20, 2006, 3:41 pm PDT

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I have read everyones messages and I feel that mybe my life isn't that bad. But then again. We're all different. I am 17 years old and I live with my mom. The person I am to call my father lives in Myrtle Beach. Good for him. MY mom has been divoreced for almost 18 years now. And we have an okay relationship. yay? My dad has recently moved down there to be with his new girlfriend and her daughters. Jealous? Yes...yes I am. My father didn't want me and asked for my mom to have me aborted. But she wanted me to live. She had, had 5 miscarrages and wanted me...to surrvive. But anyhow, my father told me he was moving down there with a friend....he didn't mention his girlfriend or her two daughters. His gf ( girl friend)'s oldest is about 17...and he treats her like she's...his blood. Good for her. But...I do hate her and her mom and sister. Part of me feels that they have taken what relationship I had with my father and....wont give him back. I haven't seen my father since Dec 12, 2004. He called me to my face when I was in 6th grade...the milk mans daughter. I was Daddy's girl....every fathers day I made sure that all day I thought of him...and tried so hard not to get jealous of all the other kids around me. ......His gf wont let him talk to me much, and he doesn't do anything to contact me. I guess....he still doesnt want me. ....and I just cant accept that fact. I refuse to. .....I want my daddy back.....I want him to care about me.....
You have a right to be angry and don't let anyone tell you different. However anger is alot lot like rocking in a chair you rock and you rock, but you never get anywhere. I have spent a lot of my life trying to decide who to be angry with my mother or my father. Both of them have a long way to go in the parent department. All I have accomplished is a whole lot of pain and suffering for myself.... they really aren't affected much by my dissatisfaction of them. At least you know what you want. I can't decide wether I want my parents to love me or drop dead and I am 30 so good luck to you!
 
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July 21, 2006, 2:34 pm PDT

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Inform your bum daughter, that she has 1 week... 5 days to find another place to live. (She has tons of friends to move in with and use.. we both know it )  

  

MOM...MOM MOM... MOM !... She is a grown woman.. I know, i have a bum of a son who is 23...his girlfriend aborted my first grand child and I could kill them both for it.  I Threw him out.  Now my house has peace and calm... but his bills still arrive here.  Phone bill, storage bill, he's currently jobless ... hoping I will pay them for him !   not gonna happen.   He has not even come to get his clothes... Unbelieveable !.. 

  

They have to learn like we did.  Hard knocks and life experience and sleeping in their storage is the only way to get through their thick skulls that there are not free rides in life . 


Let the doper "guito" player support her dead beat tail, and see how long that lasts.  Let her sleep in her car a few nights and eat those pukey burgers at the 7-11 for dinner.... 

  

SO THEY CAN FIGURE OUT HOW GOOD THEY REALLY HAVE IT>.. if they just listen to their mom's.  

  

DO HER THE FAVOR OF TEACHING HER ABOUT LIFE..... It's our Job Mom.. :)   No one said it was easy, but we cannot support them forever ! 

Thanks for the response, Trinket.  I don't know what she's thinkin'.  Blames me for her mistakes.  I know I put her through some changes during her childhood years with my failed relationship with her bio father, divorce from her adoptive father, remarriage to a strong, yet quiet older man.  His presence has helped to gain some control in the household.  

  

I had an abusive childhood.  My mind was in turmoil for a good while, and Thank God, I'm here today, a productive citizen, never been in trouble with the law.  Got through school, held down fulltime jobs since age 16. 

  

We did have a falling out Wednesday because I had the nerve to wake her up at 8:30a.m. so she could meet with the financial aid counselor -- her Student Aid Report was ready for review at the school.   She set her alarm for 11:30 so she could get dressed and go to the school before work.   As usual, she gets angry when any uncomfortable subject arises -- responsibility.  Then she went on the verbal attack.  Things escalated and I threw her out.  She disowned me, spat on my marriage and tried to poison my 16 year old against me.   

  

I tried to get some counseling for us because I know she has a personality disorder, or anger disorder. She is refusing and says I need counseling, not her. 

  

I'm sad becuase I miss the good side of her.    Yet there is peace in the household. . . 

 

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July 21, 2006, 4:25 pm PDT

Hi mybus

Good for you!!  I'd help you pack if it were possible!! While you're going through the process, I hope you have music playing and view it as a celebration of your strength, courage and commitment to a better life for you and your son... a journey you have been on for awhile and are now approaching the exit ramp!  How exciting to be there (or maybe it's just a relief and the joy will set in later). Keep in mind all you have accomplished... you have a job you enjoy that also provides medical benefits, you've started your own business, you're close to having your teaching certification for drivers ed and you''ve managed to do it all, in spite of him trying to break your spirit. Which may be another benefit of you and your son living with your  folks for the time being... the "ex" won't be able to "bother" you like he may attempt to do if you were living alone.       

  

You're an inspiration.  Be proud of yourself.  And if you don't mind, a big hug from me... I'm thrilled for you and your children that this man is about to be history.  Celebrate!           

 
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July 21, 2006, 8:27 pm PDT

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  My dad died 3 yrs. ago.  My mom did a succession because there was no will.  Then when that was finished she took my brother , myself, and herself to a lawyer and had a partition deed done.  I got the family home, where my husband and I along with our 2 children live.  She reserved the rights to live with us till her death.  Little did we know she was gonna turn into a complete bitch.  She realized she terminated her use of the house and just reserved the rights to live with me and my family.  My brother now is living off away from us.  My mom started trying to boss me around like a 14 yr old,  then tried to put a curfew on me.  I'm 37  been married 16 yrs.  I have a healthy marriage.  She has slapped me on occasions claiming that I smart mouthed her.  She has tried to ground me.  She has gone as far as to tell me that  she had better not catch my husband and I having our private time.  My mom and I have gone to counselors, the law has had to come out and tame her down.  The last time the law told her they would have to take her back with them if they were called out again.  She settled down for a while.  Then she tried calling the social services claiming that i am unfit.  That turned out that i am justified on how i raise my kids.  She was boiling by the point.  She talks about moving out all the time, and i wished she would.  The house is in my name legally.  She has temper tantrums so bad  it just stresses me out.  I am now seeing a heart doctor.  Dont know if it is angina, stress, or the real thing.  I am taking blood pressure medicines.  My opinion  is  she gave me the house as my inheritance, then if any one should move it should be her.  She is talking about moving but not done nothing so far.  I pray everyday about this.  What do i do about a vindictive mom? I know my mom must hate me.  What do i do? 

 
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July 22, 2006, 3:36 pm PDT

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  My dad died 3 yrs. ago.  My mom did a succession because there was no will.  Then when that was finished she took my brother , myself, and herself to a lawyer and had a partition deed done.  I got the family home, where my husband and I along with our 2 children live.  She reserved the rights to live with us till her death.  Little did we know she was gonna turn into a complete bitch.  She realized she terminated her use of the house and just reserved the rights to live with me and my family.  My brother now is living off away from us.  My mom started trying to boss me around like a 14 yr old,  then tried to put a curfew on me.  I'm 37  been married 16 yrs.  I have a healthy marriage.  She has slapped me on occasions claiming that I smart mouthed her.  She has tried to ground me.  She has gone as far as to tell me that  she had better not catch my husband and I having our private time.  My mom and I have gone to counselors, the law has had to come out and tame her down.  The last time the law told her they would have to take her back with them if they were called out again.  She settled down for a while.  Then she tried calling the social services claiming that i am unfit.  That turned out that i am justified on how i raise my kids.  She was boiling by the point.  She talks about moving out all the time, and i wished she would.  The house is in my name legally.  She has temper tantrums so bad  it just stresses me out.  I am now seeing a heart doctor.  Dont know if it is angina, stress, or the real thing.  I am taking blood pressure medicines.  My opinion  is  she gave me the house as my inheritance, then if any one should move it should be her.  She is talking about moving but not done nothing so far.  I pray everyday about this.  What do i do about a vindictive mom? I know my mom must hate me.  What do i do? 

This has been going on for three years? It sounds like three years too long!
Since your mother talks about moving all the time, but never does anything about it, have you and your husband considered selling the home you live in as a way to get away from her? Just something to consider.
You said that you know your mother must hate you. From her actions, it sounds as though she is an insecure woman who craves constant chaos. You, your husband and your children don't deserve to live with this constant chaos, you deserve to live stress-free, to be happy and safe- not worrying about what your mother is going to pull next.
If there is ever a time when things are quiet, and your mother isn't mad about something, I suggest that you catch her by surprise and come right out and ask her, "mom, what would make you happy with your life?" It would be interesting to hear what she has to say. She is missing something in her life, but she doesn't know what that is because she is trying so hard to distract herself with issues regarding you. She needs to learn how to focus on herself. Until that happens, all you can do is focus on yourself. Finding a reasonable solution to make your life happier might be difficult, and it might come down to selling your home to get away from her- but you can't put a price on happiness. I wish you well!!
 
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