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Created on : Friday, September 14, 2007, 03:44:36 pm

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(Original Air Date: 09/18/07) Does it annoy you to no end when someone uses a cell phone at the dinner table or chews with his or her mouth open? Along with author Peggy Post, Dr. Phil tackles the dos and don’ts of etiquette. One issue making recent headlines is appropriate in-flight attire. Kyla was flying to Phoenix on Southwest Airlines when an employee informed her that her outfit was too skimpy. Kyla saw nothing wrong with the way she was dressed and was appalled when she was asked to cover up. Did the airline go overboard, or was Kyla too tantalizing for take-off? Then, Kate took her 19-month-old son on his first flight, but she was removed from the plane when he became too talkative. Was the airline out of line for telling Kate to shut her baby up? Peggy Post weighs in on this polarizing problem. And, Joan says she doesn’t have any peace at home because of all the noise her family makes – from loud chewing to clinking dinnerware. Her husband, Bob, says he and their three children have to walk on eggshells around Joan just to eat dinner. Is Joan overly sensitive, or does her family need to be reined in? Plus, meet a woman who says her husband’s bad manners didn’t disturb her until she had a baby, and a guest who nominated herself as having the worst etiquette in the country! Share your own etiquette peeves and join the discussion.

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seachelle67

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September 18, 2007, 7:15 pm PDT

flying with kids

I have flown several times with kids. It isn't always easy. The last flight that we took was when my husband transferred from Arizona to Hawaii. That was a killer flight. He was paying attention to the 10 and 8 year old and I had the responsibility of the 2 year old. I did my best to keep him quiet and entertained. The woman and two children in front of me switched seats many times, seemingly because my son was "kicking" the seat, but if his little legs could reach the seat in front of him while he was buckled into his car seat and the car seat was buckled into the airplane seat, then maybe they had pushed their seats back "way beyond" where they should have. At one point I tried to reach down to pick up a toy and caught a mouth full of the ladies hair in front of me because the seat was so far back. I couldn't fit a can of soda and a cup on my tray because she had forced her seat so far back and then at the end of the flight she couldn't get it to go back up all the way. My friend once told me to remember "only you really think your child is cute, nobody else does". There are some adults on planes that have worse manners than my 2 year old had. At least he has a reason what is their excuse?

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September 18, 2007, 7:15 pm PDT

Southwest Airlines - Etiquette

Actually, appalled is my mood. Where does Southwest Airlines get the right to dictate what anyone wears or for that matter force a passenger to buy TWO seats because THEY deem you are too fat for one. I wonder if they make their "plump" CEO buy TWO seats for her big rump! I don't care what their policy is, I will NEVER fly this airline again because of this invasive policy and their little dictators running around with a little power and using it on people.

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September 18, 2007, 7:20 pm PDT

Me too

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My daughter did some modeling for awhile before she married and gave me my beautiful granddaughter. She never embarrassed me by going around inapropriately dressed with her underwear showing.

However we are constantly having to tell my 4 year old grandbaby to stop showing everyone her underwear. I hope I don't have to use this one on her when she is older ;-)

I too did some modeling in my younger days, (and for the picture/poll person, I can wear that outfit and wear it well, I'm not old, I'm not a man, and I get it! ) But I have never dressed that provocatively. I wore minis in my day, and am a huge fan of tank tops (layered of course with a bra) and shorts, but I never have bits falling out. I was brainwashed by my school "if it's not down to your fingertips, it's too short"

When I was younger, getting removed from the premises for too short clothing was to be expected. More over, my mother would have NEVER tolerated me to look or behave like less than a lady. I still like to wear flattering clothes, but I don't have to expose all of my flesh to flatter my figure with clothes. No one does. I think "more is less" in a way.

The grandbaby story is too cute! There is something about little kids. Still a bit wild maybe, but for boys, naked is how they want to be. For girls, they are all so extremely proud of their underwear! Maybe this Kyla is just trapped in the mentality of a 4 year old! Look at my new ruffled panties kind of thing? ; )

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September 18, 2007, 7:22 pm PDT

09/18 Etiquette

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Sounds like you're one of those parents who allow their 'kids' to do whatever they please in public and justify it with 'kids being kids'. At what point should parents start to socialize their children and teach them appropriate manners? As soon as the child begins to interact in a social environment. And, by the way, I have 'kids' and work as a children's psychotherapist where I see lots of children who have NOT been socialized and who don't have a clue as to how to behave in public and at school...Why? Their parents didn't want to be bothered with it. Afterall, they were just 'kids being kids'.

You know nothing about me.....No, I am so far from that kind of parent. I am a strict parent, and my kids know when there's a time to play and not to play. I can take my kids anywhere, and not worry about them acting up, because both me and my husband know how to talk to our kids, and I don't give them their way all the time, I admit, I can be a softy, but to an extent.

Sometimes it is hard to keep friends because my husband is in the Marine Corp and we move sooooo much, we can't get attached anywhere. My son is 7 and has been in 6 schools, believe me I know it's hard on him, but we do have a great relationship with both our kids.....all I can do is pray that we bring them up in a respectful world.....Believe me, I know of alot of parents who can use your advice, but I feel it's none of my business how they raise their kids....

I did not socialize my kids til my son started pre-school, my daughter only was able to go to pre-school for 2 months, then we moved.......but we were still able to teach them how to act and treat others. My daughters kindergarten teacher approached me last week and was going on and on about how well behaved my daughter is and how she's such a sweet girl, I was so proud to hear that, but I'm not gonna lie, I get that about my kids all the time.......All I can say is thank you to God for helping us lead our kids in the right direction......

Thank you.

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September 18, 2007, 7:23 pm PDT

Airlines

One more thing... I have flown with people that stink to high heaven and are so ripe with get out of bed bodies and hair and gagging body odor and foul breath, but no one ever did anything about that! That man was also dressed appropriately for travelling in the summer months. He was wearing leather summer sandals, NOT FLIP FLOPS from the bargain bin!

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September 18, 2007, 7:27 pm PDT

That woman was a joke.

What did you guys think of that woman who got 'embarassed' and 'humilated' on the plane because she was asked to change from her sleezy outfit?

What happened to the good ol' days when people just work comfy clothes on the plane? Good times...

I hope she doesn't get a penny from the airline comapny. She's a joke.

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September 18, 2007, 7:29 pm PDT

I agree

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Kayla, Sweet, Kayla.... If this is the last time that you will ever be embarrassed you will be lucky. I saw you on the other show, too. It is apparent that you are going to sue. Shame on you. If you read any of the posts, they were running 95% plus against you. i, too. feel you are just after the money.. Dr. Phil was right on about you. I am sure we will have a follow up on you.. You said all you wanted was an apology. You should have never taken the tickets. I am sure your attorney had a little to do with you giving them back..

Much to late in my opioion.. All of this was for attention... Give it up.. As Dr Phil said, Are you kidding????

I also feel as though Kayla was in it for the money and attention. It is really sad that this issue has been taken this far. So one was embarassed but just because we get embarassed do we sue?! Obviously the airline attendant has different views than Kayla and prob. felt that they were doing their job. Yes, it could have been handled differently but it was... one must take into account that we all have those days we react to others in less than friendly ways.. and not hold that over them. I feel as though Kayla is enjoying this attention ... it is sad that she is stooping so low.

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September 18, 2007, 7:31 pm PDT

Hmmm

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Wow, i am ssssooooo much like the woman who can't stand gum chewing, clinking of dishes, etc. I actually made a colleague toss out her gum before we went into a class together. I doubt we'll be carpooling again! I say that i have "sensory issues". I do eat with my family and I DO ask my husband to stop sucking his teeth three hours after the meal is gone. People opening candy wrappers in movie theaters drive me nuts. I want to run over there and open the box for them. I better not be able to hear you chewing your food either. I do not impose my beliefs on everyone....okay, depending where i am in my cycle, maybe i do "hint" a little. But seriously, my friends and i joke about it and i do try to redirect my thoughts to something else, like maybe the girl across from me wearing too short a skirt and showing me her underwear(which i hope to hell she's wearing).....ha ha ha. SERIOUSLY, i wish that it didn't bother me so much. my idea of a nightmare would be someone cracking their gum while trying to open their red licorice box and calling my "honey". Maybe i should up my meds...

I never considered my sensory sensitivity to be an issue or an illness. But i can relate to some of your posts quite a bit. I always thought I just had very keen hearing. The noises don't drive me insane or make me want to flip out on anyone, but repetitive noises have always tweaked my nerves. And the candy wrapper thing is so right on! I have an Aunt that can click her gum like no-one I have ever heard. She can take a single stick of chewing gum and make it crackle a dozen times with each chew. It's like she is chewing bubble-wrap! I have no idea how she does it, I just know she doesn't do it around me anymore! Oh, and my husband eats cereal or soup so loudly! It's quite disgusting! SSSSLLLLLLUUUUURRRRPPPPP, clink, SSSSLLLLUUUURRRPPP, clink! On and on and on!!!

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September 18, 2007, 7:34 pm PDT

Huh?

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SWA has been embarrassing fat people who are approprietly dressd for a long time. And that includes me. They had to later say "sorry". Should they all get "a couple of bucks"? At least obesity is an illness. Poor taste in dressing isn't. Maybe you just want justice for the "cute little blond girl"?

I didn't realize obesity was an "illness"???

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September 18, 2007, 7:36 pm PDT

Ha Ha

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Much to late in my opioion.. All of this was for attention... Give it up.. As Dr Phil said, Are you kidding????

"Kayla, Sweet, Kayla.... If this is the last time that you will ever be embarrassed you will be lucky. "

ROFLOL!!! So true!

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