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Topic : 03/06 Etiquette Dilemmas

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Created on : Friday, September 14, 2007, 03:44:36 pm
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(Original Air Date: 09/18/07) Does it annoy you to no end when someone uses a cell phone at the dinner table or chews with his or her mouth open? Along with author Peggy Post, Dr. Phil tackles the dos and don’ts of etiquette. One issue making recent headlines is appropriate in-flight attire. Kyla was flying to Phoenix on Southwest Airlines when an employee informed her that her outfit was too skimpy. Kyla saw nothing wrong with the way she was dressed and was appalled when she was asked to cover up. Did the airline go overboard, or was Kyla too tantalizing for take-off? Then, Kate took her 19-month-old son on his first flight, but she was removed from the plane when he became too talkative. Was the airline out of line for telling Kate to shut her baby up? Peggy Post weighs in on this polarizing problem. And, Joan says she doesn’t have any peace at home because of all the noise her family makes – from loud chewing to clinking dinnerware. Her husband, Bob, says he and their three children have to walk on eggshells around Joan just to eat dinner. Is Joan overly sensitive, or does her family need to be reined in? Plus, meet a woman who says her husband’s bad manners didn’t disturb her until she had a baby, and a guest who nominated herself as having the worst etiquette in the country! Share your own etiquette peeves and join the discussion.

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September 19, 2007, 6:36 am PDT

This was a cute show

Kyla, your outfit is pretty.  Your outfit was a bit short for me (LOL I'm a biggum), I would haven't been given a blanket to cover up more like the elevator to the luggage area under the plane.

 

Kate, your baby was cute.  Your son saying bye bye plane... I don't wanna tell you my son's first words.  Watch the movie "The Frockers."  The baby's first words were my son's.

 

Joan LOL about the funny noises.  I have an uncle that hates styrophome cups being crushed, the noise makes him cringe.

 

The best one was the husband that wipes buggers on things, cuts his toe nails at the computer, burps, etc., I hope your guy doesn't work in my office LOL, I'd hate to be in the cubicle next to him.  I already have 1 gross neighbor (and a big can of Lysol).  Again, just kidding.

 

Dr. Phil, I couldn't get in the site yesterday; I had withdrawals from posting.  You did give me a chuckle with the comment about the lady with the low cleaved dress (you wish you were sitting next to her then apologized to Robin for what you said).  So Robin, besides the doc who would YOU like to sit next to on a plane?   Dr. Phil send me that ticket for Southwest Airlines Kyla passed up and I will take surveys from on going passengers on who they'd like to sit next to.

 

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September 19, 2007, 6:36 am PDT

SWA aj oke?

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What are you friends with Kyla? C'mon she was nothing but a snotty stuck up selfish blonde seeking fame and fortune.
I am not sure where you get your information from.  However, Dr Phil was right about SWA.  They Have an excellent record.  For everything.   EXCEPT POOT LITTLE KYLA.  WAAA    WAAA
 
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September 19, 2007, 6:44 am PDT

good for you!!

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There are always two sides to inflight stories. I was a flight attendant in the "good old days" of full meals served in 45 minutes each on three legs of a four-leg flight. On one particulary warm summer day a mother got on board with her son who was about 5 years old. It was a DC-8 with 99 passengers in the rear cabin with two flight attendants to serve dinner on a leg from Atlanta to Dallas. Shortly after takeoff the 5-year old rang the call button. (As a good flight attendant who is trained never to ignore a call button, I stopped stacking trays for delivery and ran to see what was wrong.) The little boy looked up at me and said "Hi!" I asked if something was wrong and he said, "no, I wanted to see what the buttons do." His mother had left her parenting responsibilities at the door and, like many other mothers of that era, she considered the flight attendant her personal babysitter for the next hour and a half. She barely glanced up from the novel she was reading when I spoke to her son. I said, "Please don't push that button again, ok? It's supposed to be for emergencies of if you really need something." I smiled and went back to the galley. I was no sooner in the aisle with my four dinner trays (this was before the days of carts)...the call button rang again. I went to the 5-year old and made the same speech...SIX MORE TIMES! Each time the mother made no attempt to tell her child to stop. At one point I wondered if she was the mother, but I knew she had to be because he didn't have unaccompanied minor paperwork. On the 8th time, I went up to the little boy and said, "I've had to activate your call button. If you push it one more time, your seat will slide down in the bottom of the plane where all the bags are and it's VERY DARK!" I left. The mother finally looked up and appeared outraged. He didn't push the call button again. (My apologies to the 40-year-old man out there who is afraid of call buttons.)
I am a parent who has flown with two babies and a small child many times in the past and not once did I make my children a burden on the other passengers. Many parents ignore their childrens behavior instead of teaching them how to behave and that's very sad.  My husband took me to a really nice restaurant to have a break from my babys years ago and we had a little girl visit our table and  talk  and talk she would not leave she ran up and down the isles she almost ran into a waiter with hot food.  Half way through our dinner a waitress came to our table and screamed at me "could you please get a hold of your child and control them"! I just smiled and said "I would love too but she isn't mine"  That child spent so much time with us that the staff thought she was ours.  The parents were sitting right behind us and never did say anything and as we left we saw her still running from table to table. Yes parents you do need to control your children and their behavior might be cute once but  just once and if you the parents won't do your job then yes I will speak to your child as if I am the parent until you step up shut up.  I think  this former flight attendant has a very good point. Somehere a forty year old man is thanking this flight attendant for a valuable lesson.
 
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September 19, 2007, 6:56 am PDT

exposed?

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men get arrested for exposing their penises, as they should.  I don't think this woman exposed her labia.

I couldn't see where the lady on the plane was exposed in the least

I cant believe that Dr Phil said what he said to her about a law suet it took 2 months and Dr Phil talking to them to get them to give an apology it would have never happened otherwise she looked as hurt when Dr Phil did that as what they did to her on the plane only he did it in front of millions i hope she does make them pay

Ive watched Dr Phil show since it started this is the very first time i didn't agree with him 110% on what he had to say

 
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September 19, 2007, 6:58 am PDT

Where's the Advice

I see the moderators have told us where to look for Dr. Phil's advice on how to deal with annoying noises, but those links really aren't helpful.  Those links don't address this issue in any way, shape, or form.  Where's the actual advice Dr. Phil said would be posted, specific to THIS topic?  I don't need to know how to have better family holidays.... I want to know how to handle it when the idiot behind me in the theater spends half the movie smacking popcorn and the other half smacking gum.  Where's THAT help?
 
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September 19, 2007, 6:59 am PDT

Overweight

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You need to spend more time catching up on reality.

Do you know that alcholism is an illness?

Are you aware that people who are too thin have an illness?

Are you aware that about half of Americans are overweight?

What DO you know about health issues?

 

I'm weighing in on this because, obesitie is NOT as illness.  Where is your reality?  I myself am  working towards being obese because I quit smoking and all I do is eat...........I don't watch what I eat and don't exercise.  What do you call that, an illness or just plain lazy?  I know there are certain illnesses that "can" cause obesity, but that in itself is not an illness...
 
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September 19, 2007, 7:00 am PDT

You are are the Idiot!

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Oh please -- no wonder things are such a mess - nobody wants to take responsibility for their own mistakes.

 

THere is a reason your daughter and her family weren't seated together - either they weren't smart enough to book their seats when they purchased their tickets and then they weren't responsible enough to get to the airport in plenty of time to make sure they were seated together.

 

You AND your daughter need to grow up and accept responsibility for what was HER fault.  It is the passenger's responsibility to make sure they have seats either at the time of booking or if not then they have to get to the airport extra early to make sure they are seated together before all the other passengers check in and take up those seats --  Sheesh.  Should Delta come and have packed for them, gotten them to the airport in time too??

 

I just flew Delta and you must be an employee. It was my first and last time flying Delta!!!

After landing in New York to change planes, we were escorted across the run way in order to enter the terminal. This was fine, but they had built a walk way out of planks. The heal of my shoe got stuck, with a delta employee standing there watching me almost fall flat on my face (I happened to be dressed with a low heal on). Never tried to help me or ask if I was okay. To add insult to injury, it broke the heal of my shoe and when I suggested that someone may get hurt, the employee would not even make eye contact or acknowledge that I had spoken to her. When I asked another employee if there was a website I could make a suggestion to, he was also not concerned and kept saying "hmmmmmm".

After boarding my next flight and reaching my "ASSIGNED" seat there was not room to put my little carry on. When I asked the flight attendant what to do, I was told to put it in the back of the plane or get off and check it!!!!  Why?  Because some of his friends had gotten seats in the back but decided to put all their lugguge in my spot in case there were any open seats in the front!!! At the end of the flight it was mayhem, while all of us that had front seats tried to get our lugguge at the back of the plane! The staff was rude and I had done everything right!!!  My fault....not smart enough to book with another airline!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I hope that woman contacts Children and Family Services and reports the airline!!!! 

 
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September 19, 2007, 7:05 am PDT

09/18 Etiquette

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I totally agree with you.  Since this story began, it has only been her side of the story that has been presented.  She is trying to make like she was the innocent one.  I've heard that what she was actually wearing was a lot more skimpy.  She did not have her skirt pulled down like it was in the pictures and her shirt was not covering the cleavage that she had.  It was only after Keith told her to cover up that she did.  Her outfit was totally inappropriate granted she was in a public place.  Perhaps Dr. Phil should get the other side of the story to make things more fair.  This girl's just out to get money and that's it.  It was so apparent in that show.  I hope she loses her "pants" in court. 

I personally would not have worn that outfit on a plane.  However, I got the impression from watching Kyla that she wants more than an apology.  She definetely is out for the money as is her attorney.  Maybe she has to wear outfits like that because it draws attention to her as there is nothing else about her that will.  She is just money hungry and lied to Dr Phil when she said all she wanted was an apology from SW.  People like her and her attorney are what's wrong with this world.  Money, publicity and attention seekers who can't do it any other way than tie up the legal system for something as petty as this.  Sad
 
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September 19, 2007, 7:11 am PDT

Shame On Lawyer

It should be a "sin" for a lawyer to take control of such an innocent mind(Kayla) and program her mind to seek money for this unfortunate etiquette ordeal. It is transparent to see the lawyer coached Kayla not to accept any gift(free tickets)as this would assume the matter is closed and she is content with this decision. He also wanted Kayla to make it very clear (on national tv)she will never travel with this airline again.(one more money bullet for her gun)

And lawyers question why they are so disliked.

 
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September 19, 2007, 7:22 am PDT

Manners At Home

I find it amazing how many people think that manners are unnecessary at home.  Family members deserve more consideration that people you meet on the street. Will would certainly get more positive attention from his wife if he became more of a gentleman. Don't get me wrong, around our house, we burp, fart and are pretty loose.  But we also say please and thank you, do personal grooming in appropriate places and clean up after ourselves. I would call my husband a gentleman and hold him in the highest regard. yes, he does 'guy' things, but he doesn't go overboard. He's thoughtful and considerate, even after 15 years of marriage. Will needs to join an all male group if he feels the need to be juvenile on occasion. I can't imagine having to deal with someone's boogers on household items or toenails all over the furniture. Start treating your wife like the lady she is. Hold yourself to a higher standard of behavior and see if your marital life doesn't improve. Your self image just might improve, too!
 
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