Topic : 03/06 Etiquette Dilemmas

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Created on : Friday, September 14, 2007, 03:44:36 pm
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(Original Air Date: 09/18/07) Does it annoy you to no end when someone uses a cell phone at the dinner table or chews with his or her mouth open? Along with author Peggy Post, Dr. Phil tackles the dos and don’ts of etiquette. One issue making recent headlines is appropriate in-flight attire. Kyla was flying to Phoenix on Southwest Airlines when an employee informed her that her outfit was too skimpy. Kyla saw nothing wrong with the way she was dressed and was appalled when she was asked to cover up. Did the airline go overboard, or was Kyla too tantalizing for take-off? Then, Kate took her 19-month-old son on his first flight, but she was removed from the plane when he became too talkative. Was the airline out of line for telling Kate to shut her baby up? Peggy Post weighs in on this polarizing problem. And, Joan says she doesn’t have any peace at home because of all the noise her family makes – from loud chewing to clinking dinnerware. Her husband, Bob, says he and their three children have to walk on eggshells around Joan just to eat dinner. Is Joan overly sensitive, or does her family need to be reined in? Plus, meet a woman who says her husband’s bad manners didn’t disturb her until she had a baby, and a guest who nominated herself as having the worst etiquette in the country! Share your own etiquette peeves and join the discussion.

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September 17, 2007, 7:15 pm PDT

09/18 Etiquette

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Why do women today dress so slutty? Why do  you have to reveal everything? What happened to modesty? come on--people wear mini skirts and show cleavage at church...why must you do that at church?

 

Women/girls wear these mini-skirts and show tons of cleavage and then they get mad when men treat them like objects and whistle and say obscene things. DUH. If you show everything men are going to look. and a lot of the girls like the attention.

 

what happened to being noticed for your other qualities like being smart...no they think the way to be noticed is to show their body and leave nothing to the imagination.

 

and on the subject of cell phones---I think they are so annoying. Im sitting somewhere with limited parking and I'm waiting forever because this woman is talking on the cell phone while attempting to back out of a space in a big suv--cant you tell the person on the phone to hold on for a second. My mom works as a cashier andshe said she gets people who come in to check out and they don't even pay attention to the cashier because they just talk on the phone the whole time. how rude.


And you won't believe how many times a cell phone rings in church....gracious...Can you turn it off for an hour?

What YOU may call "slutty" someone else may call their personal style.  Why does it bother YOU how someone else dresses anyway? How does it affect YOUR life?
 
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September 17, 2007, 7:23 pm PDT

Smacks of bad manners

 How about all those rude folks who crack their gum?

As if all the slurping and spitting that goes on at mealtimes isn't bad enough for those of us with manners and self-respect, now we can all listen to the extended version. People who snap, crackle and pop their way through school, work, shopping and life are very offensive, and obviously never moved past third-grade behavior.
 
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September 17, 2007, 7:37 pm PDT

09/18 Etiquette

Quote From: annieorwell

You're brilliant as always my dear...(purplepenny here)...I too don't get how people care or even really NOTICE what other people are wearing. Even if I notice what someone may be wearing I kinda goes in and out of my mind in a matter of seconds.

hehe,love the sense of humor :)

I think for me, she would have to get on naked before I'd notice, I get a bad case of tunnel vision when I travel, makes life a whole lot easier for me, what my seatmate is wearing is really of little importance, now if they have BO or bad gas, THAT would make me sit up and take notice.

 
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September 17, 2007, 7:46 pm PDT

09/18 Etiquette

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hehe,love the sense of humor :)

I think for me, she would have to get on naked before I'd notice, I get a bad case of tunnel vision when I travel, makes life a whole lot easier for me, what my seatmate is wearing is really of little importance, now if they have BO or bad gas, THAT would make me sit up and take notice.

Yeah...I don't fly a lot, but maybe once a year I do.  And I pretty much just hope that my seat mate just shuts up and doesn't elbow me...that is ALL I care about.

I wouldn't even care if they were naked, long as the naked didn't smell...LMAO!
 
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September 17, 2007, 8:03 pm PDT

09/18 Etiquette

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Child behaviour is one of my soap boxes. My oldest daughter was two years old the first time I had her on an airplane. She alternated sitting  in her seat and sitting in my lap. Otherwise she behaved like an adult. We talked but she was not loud or disruptive to others on the plane. When she had to go the the bathroom she quietly told me and held my hand as we quitely  walked to the bathroom and back.  No child can be expected to be an adult but at that age children have the capacity to be able to learn right from wrong to a greater extent than most parents realize. Maybe they don't want to realize this because it puts the responsibility on them for their childs' behaviour. Both of my children were taught to have manners in public at a very young age. At one time my two daughters, who were teenagers at the time, and I were in public having our senses assaulted by a screaming, crying, kicking brat. The mother was doing nothing with this kid to let him know that you shouldn't  behave that way in public or anywhere else. I looked at my daughters in astonishment and said "You two never acted that way." My oldest daughter said they knew they wouldn't like what  happened if they did act that way. You don't have to beat or abuse a child in any way to teach them. But it does take work and thought and I feel most parents don't want to be bothered. They would rather cruise and let the kid do whatever he or she wants and somehow that parent has the abiblity to ignore the brat. I can't ignore it. I doubt I would have been able to ignore the brat on the airplane. I did not force my bratty kids on others and I do not appreciate it when someone forces his or her bratty kid on me. That mother and child should have been removed from the airplane. I remember hearing about that incident on the news. My daughter that has a little boy heard about that, too. We three flew from Dallas to St. Louis. My daughter was scared to death fearing she and her baby would get thrown off of that airplane. The baby was 22 months old at the time and he can be a handful. But I wasn't worried. I knew she disciplined her child. He was a little testy and fidgity but he was not noisy and unruly and disruptive. He did fiine. That is my proof that very young children can behave on airplanes without disturbing others. I recall a trip I took on an airplane sitting across from two little girls. One was under a year old and I think the other was three. Ay first I thought "Oh, no." But those children behaved. They weren't perfect little adults but they did not create a problem. I commended the parents for obviously disciplining and training their kids. More proof that children can behave on airplanes. Again, don't force your bratty kids off on me.

 

Your child "behaved like an adult"....? How sad for your child. My daughter went through a stage where she would comment on everything she saw. She was not bratty, she was not rude, she wasn't even all that loud, but she would say goodbye to things, hello to things...she was fascinated (and still is) by the world around her and that should be encouraged.

When did kids being kids become bad? How SAD for this world!
 
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September 17, 2007, 8:33 pm PDT

09/18 Etiquette

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 How about all those rude folks who crack their gum?

As if all the slurping and spitting that goes on at mealtimes isn't bad enough for those of us with manners and self-respect, now we can all listen to the extended version. People who snap, crackle and pop their way through school, work, shopping and life are very offensive, and obviously never moved past third-grade behavior.
I really can't find it in myself to be bothered by something so benign...people who talk on  cell phones while driving, or people who shoot guns in the air, or people who leave garbage cans in bike lanes..things that are dangerous are the only things I can seem to twist my panties over.
 
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September 17, 2007, 8:42 pm PDT

enough already

I believe the outfit was not as it was worn on the plane.  I am sure she was baring a lot more than what we saw on the Today show. This incident happened in August and she is just now coming out with it?  She wanted an apology but now may sue?  C'mon now, this is getting ridiculous.  She's on every talk show now talking about her horrible incident.

 

The outfit was too short, period.  That outfit is made more for a club or the beach, not for running errands or doing other things.  There is a time and place to dress that way and other ways.  Why can't people realize that?  The airline has every right to do what they want to do...it's a private company and just like a restaurant or any other business entity, they have the right to refuse service etc.  Thing is she still flew with them.  She also returned with them.  So how is she "scarred for life"?  That's so stupid!

 

Bottom line, the girl is an attention whore by every fit of the definition.  For a lawyer to actually take this case is too pathetic.  If it does go to court, I hope the judge laughs it right out of court.  What a waste of time and money to purse this.

 
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September 17, 2007, 9:15 pm PDT

09/18 Etiquette

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I believe the outfit was not as it was worn on the plane.  I am sure she was baring a lot more than what we saw on the Today show. This incident happened in August and she is just now coming out with it?  She wanted an apology but now may sue?  C'mon now, this is getting ridiculous.  She's on every talk show now talking about her horrible incident.

 

The outfit was too short, period.  That outfit is made more for a club or the beach, not for running errands or doing other things.  There is a time and place to dress that way and other ways.  Why can't people realize that?  The airline has every right to do what they want to do...it's a private company and just like a restaurant or any other business entity, they have the right to refuse service etc.  Thing is she still flew with them.  She also returned with them.  So how is she "scarred for life"?  That's so stupid!

 

Bottom line, the girl is an attention whore by every fit of the definition.  For a lawyer to actually take this case is too pathetic.  If it does go to court, I hope the judge laughs it right out of court.  What a waste of time and money to purse this.

"There is a time and place to dress that way and other ways."

Who decides those times and places and dress? You?


 
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September 18, 2007, 12:58 am PDT

Fly Ayatollah Airlines!

Quote From: annieorwell

"There is a time and place to dress that way and other ways."

Who decides those times and places and dress? You?


I don't like women who dress like, um. uh, working girls, but what really scares me is people who think they are better and more moral than others.

 

Given the choice I'd rather sit next to a woman who has embraced a hooker look than someone who is looking forward to the end of the world and is dressed for it.

 
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September 18, 2007, 11:48 am PDT

09/18 Etiquette

Quote From: hudstud

What drives me through the wall is someone who chews their ice!!!  I almost have to leave the room.  Anybody else have this problem?

I can't stand it either.   I don't like any kind of crunching sounds anyway.  I usually just pretend I have something to do in the other room.  It does no good to say anything to my husband.  He'll just do it more to aggravate me.
 

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