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Created on : Friday, September 14, 2007, 03:44:36 pm

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(Original Air Date: 09/18/07) Does it annoy you to no end when someone uses a cell phone at the dinner table or chews with his or her mouth open? Along with author Peggy Post, Dr. Phil tackles the dos and don’ts of etiquette. One issue making recent headlines is appropriate in-flight attire. Kyla was flying to Phoenix on Southwest Airlines when an employee informed her that her outfit was too skimpy. Kyla saw nothing wrong with the way she was dressed and was appalled when she was asked to cover up. Did the airline go overboard, or was Kyla too tantalizing for take-off? Then, Kate took her 19-month-old son on his first flight, but she was removed from the plane when he became too talkative. Was the airline out of line for telling Kate to shut her baby up? Peggy Post weighs in on this polarizing problem. And, Joan says she doesn’t have any peace at home because of all the noise her family makes – from loud chewing to clinking dinnerware. Her husband, Bob, says he and their three children have to walk on eggshells around Joan just to eat dinner. Is Joan overly sensitive, or does her family need to be reined in? Plus, meet a woman who says her husband’s bad manners didn’t disturb her until she had a baby, and a guest who nominated herself as having the worst etiquette in the country! Share your own etiquette peeves and join the discussion.

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alponphil

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September 19, 2007, 9:57 am PDT

Mouth Sounds

I totally emphasize with Joan. From a very early age, I could never listen to people eating anything. I also hate the sound of typing on a keyboard. I wear headphones all day in my office! The problem seems to affect me most when I'm around the people closest to me. The worst things to listen to someone eating are: corn on the cob, gum, ice, potato chips and anything chewy! I also hate when people sniff rather than blow their nose! Dr. Phil - Please post the tips you mentioned in the show!! This problem is ruining my relationships with my family. I'm afraid one day I'll be annoyed by my toddler's chewing and that it’ll affect our relationship!

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our4sons

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September 19, 2007, 9:59 am PDT

09/18 Etiquette

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How do you equate wearing a short skirt with nearly spitting on someone and then using an obsene gesture? Where's your common sense? These two situations are not even remotely the same.

The commonsense lies in the fact that people should know the difference between offensive/selfish/rude behavior & decent/appropriate behavior. The similarity lies in that the SWA girl & those at the park are both examples of how people disregarded the wellbeing of others, the rights of others.

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September 19, 2007, 10:10 am PDT

Benadryl for Baby

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Come on people. That is a bit harsh. I had an excellent pediatrician when my 3 kids were all under 2 and she actually said she did this with her own small children and for me to do it with mine because the Benadryl would also help alleviate pressure in their ears during the flight. It is to HELP them and not to HURT them. It is not like people are talking about giving their kids heavy narcotics or illegal drugs or something.

However, the point is that the flight attendant was out of line in suggesting this to the parent. It is up to the parent and if they would have just been tolerant for a moment, the little boy who had been delayed 11 hours for a flight that would have originally taken 1.5 hours, would have been sound asleep in minutes.

Thank you for explaining that to us. In that case, the advice came from a CERTIFIED doctor. The airline stewardness should be reprimaned and told to refrain from offering unauthorized medical solutions. I mean, did she have medical supplies on board, too?

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cbslbg

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September 19, 2007, 10:10 am PDT

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what he did he "stick it to her" he often does this to his guests....I think it's rude. I like Dr. Phil advise, as a matter of fact, I love it. But I don't like how he loves to stick it to them. Kyla was a little embarrashed at how he said "well you said you just wanted an apology, you got it, not drop it girl. Her and her atty do have a point. There is no dress code and there does need to be a rule. There isn't one. At any given tine, any person, for any gicen reason ( a low top, a kid with low pants, a mom with a rip in her pants) can be taken off the plane in embarrasement.) and WHAT if they need to be on that plane AT that time and not able to catch the next flight ? I saw the look in Kyla's eyes and she didn't feel good about herself and why she was on there and that is why she just changed while on his show and then said " take the ticket's back, I don't want them" Why must he do this to people"? Often he proves a good point, but can't he be polite about it without being so darn abrupt? anyone agree?

I totally disagree. I don't think Dr. Phil was harsh at all. She lied, and the only reason she gave back the tickets was because of the audiences response to her continuing with the lawsuit. I think she might have been embarrassed, and she should be. Her true character came out.

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cissie88

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September 19, 2007, 10:11 am PDT

09/18 Etiquette

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That's right...(insert sarcasm) She should get to dress however she wants & it's everyone else's fault for noticing. Blinders should be worn by more than just horses!

Please!

Ever heard of accountability for your own actions? She chose to dress in a way that anyone with commonsense would recognize at "attention gathering" and then got embarrassed because the attention wasn't all "good"... and was actually asked to (at least) place a blanket in her lap. Heaven forbid the embarrassment she must have felt. (rolls eyes) Oh the agony!

So you tell me what was so terrible about what she was wearing? I saw her and yes I also saw a flash of her panties on the Today show when she sat down(insert an expression of horror and disapproval here). I am so SICK of everyone trying to force their own particular brand of morality down other peoples throat. She was not dressed obscenely at all. Yes I have heard of being accountable and I think that the attendant who chastised her SHOULD BE held accountable for his stupidity.

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eileenqx

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September 19, 2007, 10:11 am PDT

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cissie88

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September 19, 2007, 10:15 am PDT

09/18 Etiquette

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The commonsense lies in the fact that people should know the difference between offensive/selfish/rude behavior & decent/appropriate behavior. The similarity lies in that the SWA girl & those at the park are both examples of how people disregarded the wellbeing of others, the rights of others.

IF and thats a BIG IF the girl on the plane was wearing an offensive outfit I would agree but the one I saw was not in the least bit OFFENSIVE.

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September 19, 2007, 10:20 am PDT

I agree with all of the ones responding to this

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I happen to see Kyla on the Today show with her mother and attorney. Matt interviewed her for several minutes in a close up shot. She was then asked to stand up and show the "outfit" she was wearing on that fateful day. The outfit was nice, the skirt in my opinion was a bit short, but what bothered me, was when she sat down, you could see her underwear; perhaps this was the situation on the plane. Was a family exposed to her exposure, and in trying to protect someone's innocence, did they complain?

Kyla said to begin with, she just wanted an apology...but now they are contemplating whether or not to file a lawsuit....is this another situation where a child being told "no" throws a tantrum and we are going to give into that "fit" ???? Our society has become a "I can do what I want no matter what"....laws are blatantly broken and another attorney makes more money and a name for themselves by defending a wrong doing. We need to start thinking others "rights" as much as we think about our own...it may change society a little.

I have read all of the responses to this post.
I agree 100% with you.
I also saw her on the talk show and saw that they had to blank her out when she crossed her legs.
I think that we have too much news on things that are not newsworthy.
People only want the attention and when they get that, they want a lawsuit.
I am glad that Dr. Phil called her on her change of heart.

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cissie88

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September 19, 2007, 10:22 am PDT

09/18 Etiquette

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Bad behavior? What "bad behavior" are you talking about? It's bad behavior to dress in a way you dislike?

How did her clothing disregard others? I don't feel disregarded.

I just don't GET IT either. I have seen this girl on more than one show and I see NOTHING wrong with what she had on. I was in high school in the sixties and EVERYONE wore dresses that were that short and shorter. No one made a big deal out of it then. And I'm from the BIBLE BELT no less. There are way more pressing things going on in this world than for ALL these people from the MORAL MAJORITY to get so worked up over a pretty young woman in a short skirt.

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September 19, 2007, 10:23 am PDT

Finally!

There are many people who have this issue. Most of us keep quiet because
when some people get wind of it, obviously like Joan's children, they do it anyway.
In my humble opinion, if you really love and care about someone, why wouldn't
you do everything in your power to ease that person's stress. I guess Joan AND her
husband need to give the children some consequences, since those kids seem to lack
the maturity to put themselves in her shoes. Her husband on the other hand..sheesh.
He can get the hulled seeds and then chew with his mouth closed quietly, or just do
it when she is not around, if he gets his kicks out of hulling them with his teeth and
tongue. The family is sacred. We should do all we can to help make our loved ones
lives more tolerable, not less. It makes me sad when I hear and see people do
something deliberately when they know others will suffer because of it.

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