Topic : 03/06 Etiquette Dilemmas

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Created on : Friday, September 14, 2007, 03:44:36 pm
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(Original Air Date: 09/18/07) Does it annoy you to no end when someone uses a cell phone at the dinner table or chews with his or her mouth open? Along with author Peggy Post, Dr. Phil tackles the dos and don’ts of etiquette. One issue making recent headlines is appropriate in-flight attire. Kyla was flying to Phoenix on Southwest Airlines when an employee informed her that her outfit was too skimpy. Kyla saw nothing wrong with the way she was dressed and was appalled when she was asked to cover up. Did the airline go overboard, or was Kyla too tantalizing for take-off? Then, Kate took her 19-month-old son on his first flight, but she was removed from the plane when he became too talkative. Was the airline out of line for telling Kate to shut her baby up? Peggy Post weighs in on this polarizing problem. And, Joan says she doesn’t have any peace at home because of all the noise her family makes – from loud chewing to clinking dinnerware. Her husband, Bob, says he and their three children have to walk on eggshells around Joan just to eat dinner. Is Joan overly sensitive, or does her family need to be reined in? Plus, meet a woman who says her husband’s bad manners didn’t disturb her until she had a baby, and a guest who nominated herself as having the worst etiquette in the country! Share your own etiquette peeves and join the discussion.

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March 6, 2008, 7:28 pm PST

Cut me a Break....

Quote From: countrydancer

If Southwest wants to have a dress code, then they need to step up to the plate and develop one.  Then they need to educate their employees so that the dress code is consistently enforced.  Then they need to make the dress code available to every person purchasing a ticket. 

 

If they thought her skirt was too short, they should have given her a blanket to put over her lap.  That's about all they cover anyway, so why not use them?  This should have been done quietly and respectfully without making a scene.

 

Also, Dr. Phil, it appeared that you really felt strongly that she shouldn't even consider taking legal action against Southwest.  It seemed like this was very important to you -- did you make a promise to Southwest or something?  She was correct when she told you that she only said she wouldn't go on anymore TV shows -- she said nothing about taking legal action one way or the other.

 

It is one thing to offer an apology (three months down the road) and quite another thing to change your business policies for the better.  I feel she had every right to hold off on making the legal decision until she saw whether Southwest was going to change their policy so this would not happen again to another person.

 

There is no excuse for their conduct and I would be very upset if they treated me that way, no matter how I was dressed.  As consumers we deserve respect from the people we do business with.  I wouldn't have kept the tickets either and I respect her for giving them back.  That shows that she isn't in this for what she can get out of it.

This girl was all about the apology that she wanted to get from Southwest, but when she got it, it wasn't enough.  When Dr. Phil asked if it was all done now, and that she wouldn't sue, she got all flustered and gave the tickets back.  I guess the thought of getting out of this without a couple of millions was unacceptable.  Did you notice she wore a quite conservative outfit on the show today.?? What happened to the TUBE TOP skirt?? She got possibly worldwide notariety, and alot of air time out of it, and I guess that won't be enough.  People like this one that sue for just about anything really are pathetic.  Get a job and work for a living. Don't try to live off of other people's money.  And of course the lawyer is going to tell her to sue.   can you say CONTINGENCY??  If she doesn't sue, he has only gotten some free advertising on the Dr. Phil show.... Lyla,,,, get a life... get over it....
 
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March 6, 2008, 7:29 pm PST

03/06 Etiquette Dilemmas

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Dr. Phil, have you heard of "Soft Sound Sensivitiy Syndrome"?  My (almost) 18 year old daughter has suffered from it for several years...simply managing stress doesn't seem to help.  She goes off to college next year and we're really worried about the problem.  We've tried several things, but "just putting up with it" seems to be the only available solution.  We have not had family dinners for at least 4 years, she does not go to movies because of the popcorn eating issue, it goes on.... 

Thanks , I will be looking into that..

 

 
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March 6, 2008, 7:44 pm PST

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You'll probably get slammed by some, for your comments, but not by me. I'm sick and tired of all the boobs on TV. Especially JL Hewitt on Ghost Whisperer.  She goes to her antique store, dressed for the bedroom. She goes to a high school basketball game, dressed for the bedroom. She requests information from a male college professor, dressed for the bedroom. Her show always opens with the whispered question can you see us? Yes we can. Cover 'em up.

Wow! I'm SO glad to see that I'm not the only one disgusted with Jennifer Hewitt's clothing on Ghost Whisperer! I love the show, but am floored by her terrible choice of wardrobe. One episode showed her in an elementary school with her boobs hanging out...good God!  

 

I love your last line: "Can you see us? Yes we can. Cover 'em up."   HAHAHA

 
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March 6, 2008, 7:53 pm PST

So relieved I'm not the only one like this. . . .

Quote From: jbbatwot

Could Joan possibly have Adult Attention Deficite Disorder?  ADDers are frequently disturbed by noises that irritate them: like chewing & smacking, pencil clicking, gum popping, clock ticking, etc.  I know, I live with one who can be extremely irritated by things that I barely hear.  Medication has helped a whole lot in our situation!

 

jbbatwot

Wow,  I am not the only person who has all these signs:  they all fit me to a T.

The clinking of a spoon against a bowl, is something that I can hear 3 rooms away, and send me over the roof!  Ice-chewing, I can't take it,  I literally have to leave the room!  Clocks ticking are soo distracting that it is the only noise that I focus on.  Windshield wipers with a noise are completely irritating to me.  Any repetitive noise, like someone bouncing a basketball right next to me, a pencil tapping, and gum cracking.  I have literally had to leave events, because I was stuck next to someone who was doing one of these activities.  I am CONSTANTLY telling me kids to stop making these noises.  My husband thinks I am PSYCHO and says that he CAN'T DO ANYTHING because I'm nuts.    I have been made to feel as though I am ruining the household because I also cannot listen to these noises.  It's something that pulls me right to that sound, and I become obsessed with it, even though I don't want to hear it.      What medication is there for this type of possible ADD (now that I know what I have)??     What a relief to hear that I am not just a psycho or a obsessive psycho!!

 
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March 6, 2008, 8:07 pm PST

03/06 Etiquette Dilemmas

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Hey Ya'll,

After watching the show today, I couldn't believe my ears. I thought I was the ONLY PERSON ON EARTH with this problem. My case is extreme. I don't even know how the lady on the show would even put up with the sunflower seeds for 15 minutes before closing her ears!!!  When I hear or see people eat, it's like my mind totally zooms in on it, and nothing else, and I get this EXTREME inner feeling of high stress (that's my description of how I feel) but to say it in a nutshell....it makes me want to run away RIGHT THEN, I can't get away fast enough. So that's what I do. I get away from it as fast as I can. I turn on music to drown out the clinking of spoons on bowls, hearing food being chewed up, people swallowing, the stirring of spoons in cups, smacking, chewing, slurping, I close doors, I turn on water so I can hear that instead, whatever I can do to only hear something else and get my mind off of it. Sometimes my mind keeps repeating the noise long after it is gone and it makes me WANT TO SCREAM..........this is the one thing about me I would most like to change....there is NOT A PRICE TO FIX THIS. I would pay anything. I get upset all of the time about it because I feel like I am so weird. My husband....I don't know why he puts up with it, but he does. He stops eating for me to walk through the room and I quickly run out, we eat separately at home. STRANGELY, as long as I am eating I can tolerate the noises better....and it's not as bad in a social setting when there are millions of other noises around to drown it out. When the daughter on Dr. Phil today says her mother gets onto her for smacking when she's not even eating...I flash back to childhood when I would holler at my little sister to STOP STOP STOP!!!!!!!!! I guess this weird tick started when I was around 14 or 15...and I am now 25. I just really find comfort in knowing that I'm not alone....because I SERIOUSLY thought I was. This isn't just a simple "it gets on my nerves kind of thing", this is a serious "it affects my family, day-to-day living, and causes severe internal stress type of thing". I feel the stress through my shoulders and I just want to run. I don't tell people about this.........My mother in law smacks on gum and it makes me want to run, but if I told people they would think I was the weirdest person ever. It's just kind of understood between my husband and myself that we don't talk about it in front of other people....because if they know they will do it on purpose. And it is torturous to me, and I would cry and throw this crazy fit like a child if I couldn't get away. I can't be in a vehicle with another person eating, it's like my body goes into panic mode. Other than this one crazy tick, I am a VERY NORMAL EVERYDAY person. I actually teach middle school etiquette........I just didn't know there was anything that could EVER fix this. I don't know if I believe in hypnosis or not, but I have thought about that, and counseling....but I just assumed that a psychiatrist would think I WAS NUTSO because it seems so silly, but it is in fact so serious. I would give anything not to have this crazy tick. I now have  a five month old daughter and you don't know how bad I don't want this to affect her. WHAT ARE THE STRATEGIES THAT DOCTOR PHIL SAID THAT HE IS GOING TO PUT ON HIS SITE!!?!??!?! I NEED TO SEE THEM NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I DVR'd the show, so I showed it to my husband and he was like.....let's get on the website NOW, and I couldn't get here fast enough. I NEED HELP!!!  -Jenny

Jenny,

You are not alone,  I am soo excited to hear that I am NOT the only one out there,  I have thought that I was NUTS as well as psycho . . . . the intense feeling I get when I hear these noises are soo strong sometimes, that if I had a baseball bat, I could literally smash a wall!!  Nobody in my family understands, so I usually have to leave the room.    It's horrible to become fixated on these sounds, when you know it will send you over the edge.  I can't even eat with my husband either, because of all the noises he makes.  I can't listen to him flossing his teeth, or all the other repetitive little noises that have been mentioned by you, and know I know of others with this same "problem".     Obviously, I don't think that Dr. Phil was addressing the extreme case that I and others have, where it causes a physical reaction and is highly highly stressfyl.   I am looking for help, and don't know where to go to find it.    If it is Adult ADD, then what do I do about it,  I don't really want to go on medication. . .

Anyone have any answers or ideas?

 

 
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March 6, 2008, 8:13 pm PST

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I am amazed at the number of people posting on this board who are saying they have this sound sensitivity problem! I thought I was alone.

 

We live in such a horribly noisy world that it's no wonder we are all sick to death of it and want to run screaming to find a peaceful, quiet place.

 

How about those new TV shows where you can barely hear the dialogue because of the loud, annoying, truly no-talent, whiny, bleating crap that passes for singing that you have to suffer through the whole show? Now that REALLY makes me crazy! It's a shame, too, because a lot of these shows are really good...except for that. 

 

We are also inundated with rude, obnoxious people who have the manners of a billy goat because parents are too lazy to teach their kids basic manners at all. I know if I had chewed with my mouth open when I was a kid I'd have been made to leave the table. I was taught consideration and I taught my kids the same....I could take them anywhere and be assured that they would behave themselves and use those manners!

 
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March 6, 2008, 8:17 pm PST

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Quote From: cndrlla

Wow! I'm SO glad to see that I'm not the only one disgusted with Jennifer Hewitt's clothing on Ghost Whisperer! I love the show, but am floored by her terrible choice of wardrobe. One episode showed her in an elementary school with her boobs hanging out...good God!  

 

I love your last line: "Can you see us? Yes we can. Cover 'em up."   HAHAHA

It reminds me of an episode of Family Guy, where they parodied the Ghost Whisperer by having Jennifer Hewitt's breasts drawn excessively huge. She's talking to a ghost, and asking why he came back, and the ghost is saying "uh..". Like he's trying to come up with something other than, to see the chick with the huge boobs.
 
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March 6, 2008, 8:26 pm PST

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 Thank God there was dr. Phil to make Soutwest Airlines give in and apologize. What about other people who don't have him on their side. Of course that young woman should sue. And that the doctor made her feel uncomfortable about her right to do that makes me wonder about his relationship with Southwest Airlines.
 
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March 6, 2008, 8:27 pm PST

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Quote From: halela

I don't think anyone would complain, cause she's beautiful. Our society gives passes to beautiful women, as if being born with a perfect figure is something of a personal accomplishment. She suffers from, "My beauty has gotten me everything I wanted this far, so I might as well keep on using it" Syndrome. She's one of those women who will lose everything when their looks fade when they are older. Perhaps she deserves pity, for she'll loose everything with her looks.
 
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March 6, 2008, 8:29 pm PST

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Quote From: super_sarah_j

When I heard that poor mom talking about how she was kicked off the plane, I was just upset. I have TWO small babies under the age of 3. I live in Western Canada and my mother in law lives in Florida. She sent us down to see her and we went with Continental. We dident have any problems with our flight. We were sitting in the back so that we dident bother anyone.

I think that the flight attendant on the flight that the mom and her baby were on must of been having a bad day. The flight attendant sould of asked for the baby to hush up and walk away. If the other flyers were having a problem, they should of asked to be moved to another seat. I know what its like to fly with a sick baby or a baby who just wants to talk. The flight attendant was in the wrong NOT the mom. The staff needs to know what its like to be on the other end of things. Being a mom on her own with a young child is very hard.

You mentioned sitting in the back of the plane so not to bother other people. You did something the mother on the show did not. Made an effort to see that your child wasn't bothersome to others. All this mother needed to do was buy a pacifier.
 

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