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Topic : 09/21 Does Age Matter?

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Created on : Friday, September 14, 2007, 03:48:41 pm
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Can May-December romances really last? Christopher Knight, famous for his role as Peter on The Brady Bunch, and Adrianne Curry, winner on America's Next Top Model, began their relationship when they starred together on the reality show The Surreal Life 4, and the public watched as they planned their wedding on their own show, My Fair Brady. Now they both say their 24-year age difference is a huge problem in their chaotic marriage. Adrianne says Christopher treats her like an employee, and Christopher says if she worked for him, she would’ve been fired a long time ago. Can these two work out their generational differences? Then, 38-year-old Shelly wants to know if it’s wrong to be in a relationship with an 18-year-old friend of her son. She says he makes her feel beautiful but wonders if she’s causing him or her children harm. Dr. Phil doesn’t mince words when he tells her his opinion. Join the discussion.

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September 22, 2007, 1:20 pm PDT

That's A Good Point

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Let's face it, the guy is 18 almost at his sexual peak. She is 38 almost at her sexual peak. Does anyone else think maybe that's all there is to this relationship?
Yeah, they are both at their sexual peaks. She's separated and feeling all alone. This is an easy situation for her because he's so naive, she can control the situation by giving him sex for the first time and that gives him a huge attachment to her, plus he doesn't have adult coping skills. It's easy for her.  I worry about the guy. Some 18 year olds are very independent and mature. I think it's how you were raised. He seemed confused, easy going and very impressionable. I worry that if he wanted to end it with her, he would feel responsible for her and guilty for not wanting to take care of her. Dr. Phil had it right, the boy doesn't have a kind mother, they don't speak, and he wants a mother so badly. That's how he got into this. Also, as I get older, I like men with a little gray in their hair because I like my getting older. I don't reject it. It's part of life and it means we are wiser. It's too weird that she wants to be with a child. Like Dr. Phil said, the only thing worse than doing this for 4 months, is doing it for 4 months and one day, or 4 months and two days.
 
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September 22, 2007, 1:26 pm PDT

Ummm...WHY???

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Yes, age does matter to some extent.  If one of the "couple" is under the age of 25 reguardless of whether it is the male or female, as far as I am concerned, they are too young for the older person.  However if one is say 40 and the other is 60, again not to good, but livable.  Another "rule" should be that if one of them has a child the same age or within two years of the age of the other then that is just sick.  Under no circumstances should you be dating, living with, or married to someone the same age as your child.  If you are you should really give your head a shake. 

Can you point to any studies or statistics which say any of your classifications are correct and there is something "wrong" with people who don't live within your boundries?

 

I was just shy of 37 and my husband 23 when we met. We are married now, raising my 2 teen sons, his 6 year old daughter and our 11 month old daughter. We both have good jobs. We live in a nice community, a nice house and our children attend excellent schools. We eat dinner together. We do things as a family. We take vacations together.

 

We are happy, healthy and well adjusted. Our families-in-law get along fabulously. WE get along great.

 

Can you give me ANY good reason why we should not be together other than it being your made up "rules?"

 
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September 22, 2007, 1:35 pm PDT

Chill!

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THis is very rude.  I am 24 and I married my husband when I was 21.  I have not missed anything.  For some 20 somethings the party lifestyle and carefree life is for them but not all of us.  She is 29 and she married him when she was 25.  That is a respectible age to marry and start a family.  It is not your place to judge this couple.  In my teens I never would have thought I would be married with children at the age of 24 but things happen and you discover there are things you just don't want or need that others your age do want.  Maybe for you 25 or 21 would have been too young to marry but for some of us it is what we want.  I would not trade my life for anything.  I have no regrets and my Husband did not take away anything from me.

hey, I don't know the details when they aren't posted...for all I know you are just another old fart trying to find the fountain of youth in a teenagers pants!
 
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September 22, 2007, 1:43 pm PDT

09/21 Does Age Matter?

  

 

I was totally shocked when Dr. Phil told the older woman that her relationship with the young man was

"demented"!!

The Dr. shot her self esteem to hello. I really feel that was a very rude and unprofessional

remark for anyone to make to someone.

If the Dr. is going to "pussyfoot" with the "stars",then let up on common people.

As far as I am concerned, I see nothing wrong with the age difference.

Think about it: what if the male was 38, and the female was 18.  NO PROBLEM!!!!! Every situation in life is a learing process, so let them proceed on.

        

 
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September 22, 2007, 1:46 pm PDT

09/21 Does Age Matter?

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Though perceptions may vary they often come from experience. This writer has been married to the same man for 25 years and has 3 sons and a lineage that is without divorce. The family business is law enforcement of various government levels which give ample opportunity to observe, and recognize what is morally, ethically, and obviously legally correct. As analogies goes , yours falls far short of the mark and to imply that those who don't agree with your perception as having missed something is clearly what you need to salve your ego. Stick to the facts and that is all the truth you will ever need. Society is wrought with people who are ill equipped to differentiate between what is fact and what they imagine others are doing. I prefer to stick to the realm of reality. Mark is on an entirely different level and category than Adrienne. It's that simple. It's not pretty and many may not like the sound of it. If you use "common sense" as your own guide Shelly's behavior is inappropriate, unacceptable, and foul to any one with a healthy moral compass.
I completely agree with you. Mark is still a child and incapable of making informed decisions. He's responding to his harmones. Shelly obviously has low self esteem. If she wrote to Dr. Phil its not because she doesn't know any better, quite the contrary actually. She's playing with this little boy. He's simply filling a void for her. This is not long term for her, she made that very clear, no plans of marriage or a family so why waste this boy's time, he can be with someone whom he can one day have a family with. I think Shelly is selfish, otherwise she would think about Mark's well being and future and not her own needs. She can destroy him or he her. In the long run she'll be insecure and old, probably "fat" in her eyes as oppose to the rest of the women Mark will encounter in his daily life. Shelly needs to think about this, since Mark isn't capable of it right now. She needs to step up and "be the adult" exercise a little basic moral principle here.
 
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September 22, 2007, 1:51 pm PDT

Absolutely

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Let's face it, the guy is 18 almost at his sexual peak. She is 38 almost at her sexual peak. Does anyone else think maybe that's all there is to this relationship?
You are half right... maybe.

Let’s face it, sex is the main reason why anyone gets married.

The problem with this relationship however is that the woman is married. It is dumbfounding how Dr. Phil (and almost everyone else) can get all riled up over the age difference but sidestep the adultery in this relationship.
 

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September 22, 2007, 2:08 pm PDT

09/21 Does Age Matter?

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But.......................he was 29 not 18
 I believe that's what I addressed in my second paragraph.
 
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September 22, 2007, 2:24 pm PDT

She should find someone her own age

 What in the world is that woman thinking?? Please someone tell her what she is doing is not cool. I am currently seperated from my husband who is 21 years older then me, I realized it was wrong.   Shelly,please leave your son's friends alone, there is a reason why men and women shouldn't date someone whose their children's age. YOU SHOULD KNOW BETTER! My soon to be ex husband should have known better but he didn't. Shelly, please think about it, date someone who your own age. 

 
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September 22, 2007, 2:57 pm PDT

Sick

The woman who was having an affair with an eighteen year old has to be one twisted immature  individual. She mentioned that she had a minor daughter still living at home. I wonder if she would care in a few years if a forty year old man would like to initiate her eighteen year old daughter into a sexual relationship. She could pacify her worries knowing the two would have a lot in common and that he made her feel special. Frankly, it makes my skin crawl!!. That boy is going to wake up one day (key word BOY) and seriously regret this. Too bad the older woman didn't have enough sense to know this had "Disaster"  written all over it!!!
 
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September 22, 2007, 3:15 pm PDT

A Modest Proposal

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You are 100% correct - thanks for posting!

 

All these May/December relationships are posting all offended when they should not be - we are not objecting to people who were 25 and married to someone twice their age -  A 25 year age difference is fine in a grown persons world.  This boy is 18 - he is still a teenager.  A 38 year old woman who wants to be with an 18 year old boy has problems.  Just like a 38 year old man who wants to be with an 18 year old girl - there is a case of arrested development there for sure, something is clearly wrong.

 

Shelly has some major issues.  If she doesn't get help she will screw her kids up going forward in the kinds of relationships they will choose to engage in later in life.   

 

If she thinks for one minute she would be okay with some older woman with 3 kids doing this to her own 18 year old son she is really in denial.  NO emotionally healthy mother wants this for her son.  She should show some respect for this teenagers mom.

Dr. Phil has said, on more than one occasion, that the human brain does not mature fully until sometime in the early-to-mid-20s. In fact, the age of "majority" was 21 up until just a couple of generations ago, when somehow 18 became the legal measure of "adulthood", ie, able to enter into contractual relationships (including marriage), hold a full-time job, be tried as an adult if s/he commits a crime, and serve in the military.

 

The age period between 18 and 22 seems to be a gray area - are they really adults or not? Adolescence seems to be extending well past the age of 18. If this is truly due to brain development issues, why not eliminate the ambiguity, period. Just make the age of majority 21 for all of the activities I mentioned (let's throw in getting a driver's license while we're at it), and call anyone under 21 a minor for all adult activities, not merely the consumption of alcoholic beverages in public.

 

Then, yes, Shelly's relationship with Mark (and Sanjaya's with Jacqueline ["sugardaddy"]) would probably be considered child molestation, as well as mutually exploitative.

 
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