Topic : Being a Good Friend

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Created on : Thursday, July 07, 2005, 09:18:38 am
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What does it mean to be a good "friend"? Has  someone shown you the true meaning of friendship? Share your story here.

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March 22, 2006, 6:59 pm PST

Getting along with step son's mother

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I am step-mom to a wonderful 4 yr old boy, and have a 6 yr. old daughter of my own.  Just for some background, I have been in my SS life since he was about 6 weeks old.  Fortunately, he and my daughter get along great and view themselves as bona fide siblings, and my husband and I treat them as such.  We share custody with his mother.  We live only a mile apart, so my SS is able to have time at both houses each day.   

The problem is with ME.  In the past, I had limited personal conversations with his mom due to the fact that we were going thru custody/child support issues and things were tense and uncomfortable.  In the past year, those things have settled down, and she and I started being social with one another.  Meaning, we would take the kids out on our own to do activities, and occasionally would hang out together without the kids.  At first, this seemed fine.  We are the same ages and have the same taste in music and social life.  But after a while, I started leaving the gatherings either "mixed up" or just annoyed.  I have been trying to put my finger on why that is.  To begin with, we have very different styles of parenting.   According to Dr. Phil's test, I am equally an Authoritative/Equalitarian parent, as is my husband.  My SS mom is Permissive and parents out of guilt and wanting to be liked (she admits to this).   So when we hang out with the kids together, I have to keep from trying to take over the mom role and do it "my way."  He is so much better behaved in my opinion when I do it.  I don't ENJOY feeling this way, though.  Second, when things come up and schedules change, appts. are made and such,  I have been getting so irritated if things have to be rearranged for his mom and her schedule.  Our life is very settled, whereas hers is not.  Working hours sometimes change and she is a full time student.  There is always something going on.  Sometimes my husband and I feel "on call" as parents.   

I just have a horrible feeling that deep down I am a bad person for feeling this way.  I have tried to stay in the background and let my husband and my SS mom do the pick up/ drop offs,  appts. etc.  But they are NOT good communicators with each other.  Plus, since I have been around from the beginning, it only feels natural for me to parent him and be involved.  So to "butt out" feels unnatural.  To her credit, I have never been left out, nor has she made me feel unwelcome in my role as his step mom.  I just don't know why I am feeling the way I am.  Could it be that I am not over all the arguments and issues from the past?  Even those issues are nothing I have control over or can change.  I love my SS, and I don't dislike his mother.  Why am I having a hard time with this NOW, after 4 years? I know about good fences and boundaries and all that.  But how do you go backwards as a friend, when you have stepped forward as one?  If it were up to his mother, she would like to have one big happy family.  So then I feel like a jealous prude.  Neither my husband nor I are comfortable with the whole big family idea, though.  (They were never married or in an "official" relationship-bottom line, didn't know each other that well).  I DON'T LIKE feeling bitter and resentful towards someone who is so willing to make this work.  Should I totally back track and keep things strictly parent to parent, or is there a chance we could be friends if I worked these issues out?  Any advice?   

Its been 4 years, and you've got many, many more years to go! It is understandable that you would still have some resentment over past issues, but its time to forgive and forget. This woman sounds like she is truly doing her best. Have you ever heard the saying, "when you know better, you do better.." ? This saying applies to her. I'm sure it applies to you, too. It means we learn from our mistakes, as opposed to making the mistakes and then keep on making the same mistakes over and over. 

You are in a position that millions of step mothers would love to be in! You are lucky but maybe you just don't realize that? You are living a situation that is, more often than not, a very tense one, but you are living it relatively relaxed. Perhaps you are uncomfortable because you think things shouldn't be going well between all of you? I just don't see why you can't relax and be flexible. If you are feeling "on call" .. well.. thats too bad, really, because as parents you truly are on call 24/7 whether you like it or not!  

What is the relationship like between your daugher's father and your husband? Is there one? Perhpas the lack of that relationship effects how you feel about this relationship with your SS mother? There are many, many factors... but I think that the bottom line is you really have it made, and you should be happy for what you have. You are going to raise two happy and emotionaly healthy children, what more could you want? 

 
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March 22, 2006, 7:11 pm PST

cranky co-worker

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Don't "beat yourself up" for not listening to your other friend a long time ago- sometimes you just need to hear that same advice from a person who is outside of the situation, that way you know for sure that person is totaly unbiased, which I am. This co-worker sounds like she is unstable and maybe even has a mental illness, have you ever suspected that? is that why you have felt sorry for her? Either way, its best that you keep your distance and stop feeling sorry for her. Its obvious she doesn't feel sorry for you, she is her first priority and it sounds like she doesn't consider your feelings at all. Who needs friends like that? Not you! 

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Coming to think about what you said about her instability, I do think that there is something mentally wrong with her.  It is either that or it is just jealously that is eating at her, because at one time I was her assistant and now I am just one rung away from her  - all in a span of 2 years.  She gets very upset when I join or talk to certain people even though they no longer work in the same office anymore - she gets really irate when she finds me talking to other people.  I only have to talk with her, go out with her, be with her etc., etc., she gets very offended when I even talk to my boss, as she says I am sucking up to the higher ups.   

  

 After reading your message, I was absolutely firm that I was not going to let her get the better of me and I stuck to my guns.  Now she is absolutely livid that I going for lunch with some of my other friends whom she does not know - as she always expects me to include her in everything I do.  I normally would have - but this time, I literally told her to get lost.  I am so thankful to you for opening my eyes to her craziness.  She always seems to have a strangle hold on me.  I guess it does take someone on the outside to get you thinking 

  

Thank you so much for your advice, it is really appreciated. 

 
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March 23, 2006, 4:34 am PST

Being a Good Friend

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Its been 4 years, and you've got many, many more years to go! It is understandable that you would still have some resentment over past issues, but its time to forgive and forget. This woman sounds like she is truly doing her best. Have you ever heard the saying, "when you know better, you do better.." ? This saying applies to her. I'm sure it applies to you, too. It means we learn from our mistakes, as opposed to making the mistakes and then keep on making the same mistakes over and over. 

You are in a position that millions of step mothers would love to be in! You are lucky but maybe you just don't realize that? You are living a situation that is, more often than not, a very tense one, but you are living it relatively relaxed. Perhaps you are uncomfortable because you think things shouldn't be going well between all of you? I just don't see why you can't relax and be flexible. If you are feeling "on call" .. well.. thats too bad, really, because as parents you truly are on call 24/7 whether you like it or not!  

What is the relationship like between your daugher's father and your husband? Is there one? Perhpas the lack of that relationship effects how you feel about this relationship with your SS mother? There are many, many factors... but I think that the bottom line is you really have it made, and you should be happy for what you have. You are going to raise two happy and emotionaly healthy children, what more could you want? 

Thanks for the encouragment.  You said some stuff that rings true to me.  My EX lives in a different state, and therefore isn't a part of our daily lives.  He has only had a need to meet my husband a few times.   

What I meant about the "on call" situation is when you are raising a child with two parents, there is always the coordinating and shuffling of schedules that goes into that.  But when you are doing it with four very different adult's schedules, things tend to get twisted up sometime.  Our two familes are in just very different positions.  I don't mind doing things for my kids at all-don't get me wrong.  It is just different to have to turn your own families schedule upside down to suit someone else's lifestyle.  You can only smile and mean it so many times.   

I liked what you said when you said "when you do better, you know better"  I really need to think on that.  I have almost pinned it down for me.  I think I am just afraid.  That things are just good right now b/c she is in a good position with her live in boyfriend and things are going nicely.  Afraid of the  "control" she has over our home -with my SS and financially.  In our eyes, she has taken advantage of the financial side of it, so now it is very hard for me to trust her.  She seems to be the kind of person to me who will do whatever it takes for her to get by, even at the expense of others.  There is just allot of history that I didn't go into to begin with.  I am ALL for helping people and being financialy and emotionally there for your children.  But when others start to count on it as a form of income so they don't have to work and have more children or abuse it when they don't get what they want from you, I have problems with that.  BUT , remembering what you said, I haven't seen anything super alarming on a while.  I guess I do need to lighten up, but keep certain boundaries that my husband and I are both comfortable with.  Thanks again for replying. 

 
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March 23, 2006, 12:28 pm PST

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It sounds to me that he is only using you for a bit of fun on the side and a way of building up his ego.If he wanted more than that you would be together now and noone or nothing would be in the way.It's so easy to get swept up in believing the grass is greener on the other side , and the thought of someone else finding you attactive is also a confidence booster but at the end of the day do you think it is worth risking your marriage?Think of your husband how would you feel if it were he that were messing around with one of your girlfriends?It is a messy situation you are in one that will end in heartbreak if it continues.You never said whether you loved your husband ? If things are not right with him maybe you should try to sort things out on the homefront.Perhaps the best advice I can offer is play it cool and forget the past playtimes with this friend and continue to concentrate on your marriage.Never let your husband find out your feelings for this friend as it will destroy all !  

Wishing you all the best. 

  

Thanks for the advice, I do love my husband, but sometimes it seems were like brother and sister then husband and wife.  Things have settled down, it just always crosses my mind.  Thanks for the advice!
 
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March 25, 2006, 8:51 am PST

controlling friend

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Hi 

  

Coming to think about what you said about her instability, I do think that there is something mentally wrong with her.  It is either that or it is just jealously that is eating at her, because at one time I was her assistant and now I am just one rung away from her  - all in a span of 2 years.  She gets very upset when I join or talk to certain people even though they no longer work in the same office anymore - she gets really irate when she finds me talking to other people.  I only have to talk with her, go out with her, be with her etc., etc., she gets very offended when I even talk to my boss, as she says I am sucking up to the higher ups.   

  

 After reading your message, I was absolutely firm that I was not going to let her get the better of me and I stuck to my guns.  Now she is absolutely livid that I going for lunch with some of my other friends whom she does not know - as she always expects me to include her in everything I do.  I normally would have - but this time, I literally told her to get lost.  I am so thankful to you for opening my eyes to her craziness.  She always seems to have a strangle hold on me.  I guess it does take someone on the outside to get you thinking 

  

Thank you so much for your advice, it is really appreciated. 

I'm so glad for you that you are breaking away from her hold over you!!  

It sounds like she does have a mental disorder or a personality disorder, or, maybe both. Think about what a real friend is- do they call you names and/or accuse you of doing things that are negative such as "sucking up to the boss" etc.. no.. they don't do that! She only did that because she is so full of jealousy she can't stand the fact that you might have contact with someone else. You are doing the right thing by pulling away from her, keep up the good work! Giving this woman any control over your life or emotions is a mistake. Only YOU should control those feelings. Good luck to yoU! 

 
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March 27, 2006, 6:48 pm PST

Any advise?

I have a friend of 16 yrs. She has been with this low life man for 10 yrs. She has 3 kids by him. Well in these five years he has cheated on her many, many times. He has conceived 2 kids by other women in the past 2 years. She takes him back everytime. He recently bought a house that they both share and things seemed to be doing well. Just last week she found him cheating with a woman 2 houses down from them. The other woman says she may be pregnant by him. You would think that my friend would be fed up but, I know that she will end up going back to him. I am to my wits end with her. I have tried to tell her in the past to leave him alone. I don't know what more I can do to convience her that this man after all these years will not stop cheating it is an addiction. Any suggestions? 

 
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March 28, 2006, 5:45 am PST

Dealing with friends depression

My dear friend has problems with depression although she is on medication 90% of the time she doesn't take it. She says she doesn't like to take pills. I try to encourage her to take her meds but she still will not take them. 

 Everything puts her in a bad/dpressed mood she doesn't put anything on the back burner just for now so that we all can have a nice time together..In the course of one day her mood is from one end of the scale to another. She's always in a funk we've tried getting her to talk about it she is tight lipped we've tried being cheerful and upbeat taking her out to lunch taking her out shopping nothing gets her out of her funk. It always ends the same way her funk puts all of us in a funk and then nobody has a good time.  

I don't know what to do for her anymore..I'm at my witts end. I've tried talking to her husband but,he's a self centered jerk he doesn't care. 

I've ask her time after time "is everything okay"?  "what can I do to help?" her reply everytime is I don't need help nothing is wrong just your avereage day to day stress of life. 

  

My question is How do I deal with her depression? What can I do or say  to make her feel better?  I really hate seeing her like this!! 

 
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April 4, 2006, 9:07 am PDT

Being A Good Friend

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My dear friend has problems with depression although she is on medication 90% of the time she doesn't take it. She says she doesn't like to take pills. I try to encourage her to take her meds but she still will not take them. 

 Everything puts her in a bad/dpressed mood she doesn't put anything on the back burner just for now so that we all can have a nice time together..In the course of one day her mood is from one end of the scale to another. She's always in a funk we've tried getting her to talk about it she is tight lipped we've tried being cheerful and upbeat taking her out to lunch taking her out shopping nothing gets her out of her funk. It always ends the same way her funk puts all of us in a funk and then nobody has a good time.  

I don't know what to do for her anymore..I'm at my witts end. I've tried talking to her husband but,he's a self centered jerk he doesn't care. 

I've ask her time after time "is everything okay"?  "what can I do to help?" her reply everytime is I don't need help nothing is wrong just your avereage day to day stress of life. 

  

My question is How do I deal with her depression? What can I do or say  to make her feel better?  I really hate seeing her like this!! 

Sometimes I think being a good friend is knowing when to take a step back and ask yourself what is this person doing to me?   

  

I have always tried to be a good friend to people.  Some of us are magnets for friends who can tend to suck you dry if you let them.  I've enabled most of my friends when they have been in trauma.   I've opened my door at all hours of the night to friends who were freaking out about something.  I have let them stay at my house when there was no where else to go.  I have lent thousands of dollars to friends (I never saw most of that money again).  Sat with their kids in juvenille hall and drug re-hab.   Provided transportation, job references, computer resources.  Listened to endless angst at 3:00 a.m. when I had to go to work at 8:00 a.m.  I've covered up for them when they were being "bad"  (one friend was stalking a guy and doing really weird things).  Ehhh . . .  I could write a book on all the drama.  Friendships start out innocently enough, but they can get a bit lop-sided when one friend is more giving than the other.  I finally realized that I am the problem here.  Enabling doesn't help people.  I try to no longer be an "earth mother" to everyone I meet.   

  

Your friend probably needs more professional help than she is getting now.  I've found that some people actually enjoy being in a funk around their friends because it is getting them the motherly attention they crave.  It makes them feel that people care about them.  The friends who are so giving may be trying to fulfill a need to be needed.    Okay, done with the arm-chair psychology for now.   

  

 
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April 4, 2006, 1:48 pm PDT

Learning how to be a friend with no family training.

  

   I always thought that if you were good to them you would get the same back. But I was wrong again, an again. I just got walk on. 

 
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April 4, 2006, 2:14 pm PDT

Being a good friend

    You know I've read some of the e-mails on this boards. A lot of them just make me want to cry. 

Yal are so blessed.  When I try to be myself around people they think I'm flirting. So I withdraw. It hurts not knowing what went wrong. I started up a friendship with a coworker. And now I can truly say I wish I had someone like him in my life a long time ago.  

  When I first mate his family, it was like nite and day from my family.  Know Idon't even want to be with my mom an all at holidays.   

 

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