Topic : Being a Good Friend

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Created on : Thursday, July 07, 2005, 09:18:38 am
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What does it mean to be a good "friend"? Has  someone shown you the true meaning of friendship? Share your story here.

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February 2, 2006, 10:48 pm PST

a friend who doesnt understand

 OK, me & my fiance just got done fighting over this, now i need so different veiws. We got our apt in July '05 since then on and off his good friend has been staying here sleeping on the couch. He came over new yrs eve, and has only been back hm 2 times to get fresh clothes. Heres the problem...hes 19, and has no job. My take is, hes 19, he sleeps on our couch, watches our cable, eats our food and uses our internet...of which we pay for, not him! He just recently started helping around the house, therefore my finace isnt as hard on him now. *confused* Before my finace told him we cant afford to feed him anymore, yet we still do. Has told him he needs to get a job, and has spent not even a full day looking for one. Now my fiance is telling me how good his freind has been to him in the past and how his friend is actually saving us money. My finace gave his truck back, so there we save about $200/month and $300/month on daycare. Yet we have one car, which he can use bc i work nites now to stay home with my daughter therefore he doesnt watch her. He watched her for a few wks a while back..for FREE, i called it payback for me letting you basically live off me. Am i wrong??? Then my fiance tell me, that were helping him in his time of need!!! What need??? Hes a lazy 19 yr who doesnt want to work. Come on! But he tells me all guys go throught this phase in life after high school...not all guys! Then he has the odassity, to tell me that maybe were taking advantage of his friend! Bc hell watch our daugher sometimes. I'm like, are we even living in the same apt??? Now if he just lost a job or his home, then yeah id understand, but he hasnt. Hell sleep til 11, 12, 1pm then get up stay on the couch, watch tv and play on the computer. My finace is making me feel like the bad guy here, when im not. Were struggling right now bc of the extra money that were dishing out while his friend is here. My fiance will tell him one thing then go back on...hell say one thing to make me happy then turn around and take it back like hes trying to make his friend happy. Now he tells me to kick him out bc obviously he cant do it. Am i the bad guy here? Or am i right in what i say?
 
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February 3, 2006, 11:19 am PST

Kicking out the friend

Quote From: faith2718

 OK, me & my fiance just got done fighting over this, now i need so different veiws. We got our apt in July '05 since then on and off his good friend has been staying here sleeping on the couch. He came over new yrs eve, and has only been back hm 2 times to get fresh clothes. Heres the problem...hes 19, and has no job. My take is, hes 19, he sleeps on our couch, watches our cable, eats our food and uses our internet...of which we pay for, not him! He just recently started helping around the house, therefore my finace isnt as hard on him now. *confused* Before my finace told him we cant afford to feed him anymore, yet we still do. Has told him he needs to get a job, and has spent not even a full day looking for one. Now my fiance is telling me how good his freind has been to him in the past and how his friend is actually saving us money. My finace gave his truck back, so there we save about $200/month and $300/month on daycare. Yet we have one car, which he can use bc i work nites now to stay home with my daughter therefore he doesnt watch her. He watched her for a few wks a while back..for FREE, i called it payback for me letting you basically live off me. Am i wrong??? Then my fiance tell me, that were helping him in his time of need!!! What need??? Hes a lazy 19 yr who doesnt want to work. Come on! But he tells me all guys go throught this phase in life after high school...not all guys! Then he has the odassity, to tell me that maybe were taking advantage of his friend! Bc hell watch our daugher sometimes. I'm like, are we even living in the same apt??? Now if he just lost a job or his home, then yeah id understand, but he hasnt. Hell sleep til 11, 12, 1pm then get up stay on the couch, watch tv and play on the computer. My finace is making me feel like the bad guy here, when im not. Were struggling right now bc of the extra money that were dishing out while his friend is here. My fiance will tell him one thing then go back on...hell say one thing to make me happy then turn around and take it back like hes trying to make his friend happy. Now he tells me to kick him out bc obviously he cant do it. Am i the bad guy here? Or am i right in what i say?

Go for it, kick him out!! So what if you look like the "bad guy"... someone has to do it, and you can't allow what he might think of you to keep you living in a situation that could, eventually, end your marriage!! This lazy kid is taking advantage of both of you for one reason: because he can. If and when you do kick him out, it won't even matter-- he will either go home or find another friend to mooch off of. Its not like you will be destroying his life... however, if he keeps staying with you, he might destroy your life. That is my perspective on this situation. You are right, he is a lazy 19 year old... and no, not all men go through this phase, and thats because not all of them are given the opportunity to!  

I urge you to save yourself. It would be easy to say that you don't want to look like the bad guy, however, at some point in life most husbands hide behind their wives, and most wives hide behind their husbands... atleast once in a married life. Go ahead and give your husband this "out" by being the one to tell him to go.  

I have another suggestion. It sounds like your husband is a nice man, but some people might take his kindness for weakness. (like in this situation!) I suggest that you read dr phil's book, "relationship rescue," to help strengthen your communication with each other, it can make your marriage much stronger in the long run. I wish you the best! 

 
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February 3, 2006, 2:16 pm PST

Being a Good Friend

Quote From: faith2718

 OK, me & my fiance just got done fighting over this, now i need so different veiws. We got our apt in July '05 since then on and off his good friend has been staying here sleeping on the couch. He came over new yrs eve, and has only been back hm 2 times to get fresh clothes. Heres the problem...hes 19, and has no job. My take is, hes 19, he sleeps on our couch, watches our cable, eats our food and uses our internet...of which we pay for, not him! He just recently started helping around the house, therefore my finace isnt as hard on him now. *confused* Before my finace told him we cant afford to feed him anymore, yet we still do. Has told him he needs to get a job, and has spent not even a full day looking for one. Now my fiance is telling me how good his freind has been to him in the past and how his friend is actually saving us money. My finace gave his truck back, so there we save about $200/month and $300/month on daycare. Yet we have one car, which he can use bc i work nites now to stay home with my daughter therefore he doesnt watch her. He watched her for a few wks a while back..for FREE, i called it payback for me letting you basically live off me. Am i wrong??? Then my fiance tell me, that were helping him in his time of need!!! What need??? Hes a lazy 19 yr who doesnt want to work. Come on! But he tells me all guys go throught this phase in life after high school...not all guys! Then he has the odassity, to tell me that maybe were taking advantage of his friend! Bc hell watch our daugher sometimes. I'm like, are we even living in the same apt??? Now if he just lost a job or his home, then yeah id understand, but he hasnt. Hell sleep til 11, 12, 1pm then get up stay on the couch, watch tv and play on the computer. My finace is making me feel like the bad guy here, when im not. Were struggling right now bc of the extra money that were dishing out while his friend is here. My fiance will tell him one thing then go back on...hell say one thing to make me happy then turn around and take it back like hes trying to make his friend happy. Now he tells me to kick him out bc obviously he cant do it. Am i the bad guy here? Or am i right in what i say?

You both need to sit this "friend" down and let him know that he is outta here in two weeks.  And you both care for him but you can't be his parent.  Sorry but you have to take care of your own family right now.  He needs to be told by you and your soon to be hubby, so he understands that this is REALITY and not your boyfriend talking out of his a$$.  And in a week, ask him what his plan about moving.  And keep on him (in a nice manner) about his plans.   Show you b\f these message, so he understands that you have a marriage to build soon.  Not a day care!  

 
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February 5, 2006, 10:11 am PST

First Love

I have currently ran into my high school sweetheart. I am still friendly and visit his parents on occasion. I have talked with him and we have met a few times and it was very comfortable and it was like where we left off about 10 years ago. My questions is that he seems to call and talk to me when he feels like he can. I feel like he blows me off but I also feel like he is confused on what to do about this friendship that has accured. I know that I want his friendship and would like to see him again how do I get him feel the same way?
 
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February 7, 2006, 10:36 am PST

high school sweetheart

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I have currently ran into my high school sweetheart. I am still friendly and visit his parents on occasion. I have talked with him and we have met a few times and it was very comfortable and it was like where we left off about 10 years ago. My questions is that he seems to call and talk to me when he feels like he can. I feel like he blows me off but I also feel like he is confused on what to do about this friendship that has accured. I know that I want his friendship and would like to see him again how do I get him feel the same way?

There is no way that you can get him to feel the same way that you feel about your relationship. There isn't anything that you can ever do to change someone else, the only thing that you can do is change your own actions and/or reactions to that person in hopes that it will change the dinamics of your relationship with them. So in your situation, you are saying that you want to be closer friends? (You don't bring up romance; so I'm assuming that you truly do only want friendship?) My advice would be to let him know if he blows you off, that you feel disrespected by him, and you are wondering why he feels that he can just blow you off. You don't have to say it in a manner that is angry, or that would provoke him to become defensive; its just a friend telling another friend their honest feelings, seeking an answer that might bring them to a closer understanding.  

To have a healthy friendship, you can't allow him to keep blowing you off, because this will lead to a stock-pile of resentment for you. The best way to keep this friendship healthy is to communicate clearly and in a positive manner. I know its not the easiest thing to do, but its the right thing to do. 

 
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February 7, 2006, 7:03 pm PST

My best friend and I

Hi I have a best friend that means a lot to me.We meet right after I broke off my engagement to a woman that I was with for 6 years and she aborted my child 6 months into the pregnancy. Anyways I was attracted to this girl but was no where ready to think about getting into a relationship. We had a lot friends in common and all of us started hanging out. Well I moved to Fl and then moved back and started hanging out with the same group well over time I grew to have some feelings for her. As the years have gone by I have grown to love her we no longer hang out with the other people but we either talk or hang out on a daily basis.After a couple of years of us behaving this way she hooked up with a looser and got engaged she ended up not talking to me for several months because he was jealous of me. I respected her choice to do this to make it work with him it hurt and I missed her. Well after about 6 months she started seeing what he was. We started talking every once and a while and when we started she said it could not be like it was. Well I was cool with that but thats not the way it has become we are back to hanging out all the time or talking on the phone. I know see misses me if I don't call her during the day she will call me and if I am busy she gets concerned if I don't respond. I just don't know where we are going or if this is going anywhere. We love to hang out together. I want so much to be the one to bring her the happiness in life. I just would like some advice on if I am setting myself for a fall or If we will be what I feel is what we both kinda wants to be. I just get the feeling she holds back when it comes to the two of us. 

  

 
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February 8, 2006, 11:16 am PST

Being a Good Friend

 
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February 8, 2006, 11:18 am PST

Good Friend

Being a good friend means to never judge the person by what he or she does. I always try to show my support to my friends and be there when they need me. Honesty is always an important part of any friendship or relationship.
 
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February 8, 2006, 6:35 pm PST

Being a Good Friend

Quote From: tatiana1

  

My reply to you will be so simple, so clear & so small 

  

I think you should stay alone with yourself thinking of your past , present & future life. 

You must realise that you are a married woman and a mother of 6 children !!! 

  

There is a French  proverb that says : " we can love someone forever but we cannot love him all the days ". so love can pass through bad times, but you should not forget the good times with your husband and especially your 6 children that need you & your father near them. 

  

I believe that you think that you're in love with the lesbian because you find many things in common and of course this person is giving you from her time listening to you & your problems, maybe that what you are not finding in your husband these days. 

  

Your future is with your family and of course not with this woman, think well before distroying every thing you built during many years. 

Try to talk to your husband, to communicate and sure you'll realise that you have to stop and begin a new life built on love, trust and respect ! 

Not sure who responded to my story because there was no name at the end of it so I will just leave the opening of this quote blank but I did want to respond back.  Your reply may have been so simple so clear and so small to you as you are NOT in my shoes.   Trust me I DO realize I am a married woman and the mother of 6 children (3 of which are mine, other 3 are step-sons) and that is what prevented me from doing anything against my wedding vows.  If I didn't realize that and believe in my marriage vows I'm sure something would have happen between us sexually.  But we both (my friend and I) do have values.   

  

As for your French proverb that says" we can love someone forever but we cannot love him all the days" I definately agree with that but what you said "so love can pass through bad times, but you should not forget the good times with you husband and especially your 6 children that need you and your father near them."  Well I would like to say to that......love can indeed pass you through bad times but 17 years of living with an alcoholic (you ever lived with an alcoholic????) can make the love fade and heart harden some....sometimes breaking a person down past the total love that they once felt for that person.  Don't get me wrong I still love my husband but I do not feel the love for him that I felt before.  I shut myself down in many ways to deal with the life I lived with him as an alcoholic and I'm afraid it probably killed some of the love I had for him.  So I do have some memories of good times with my husband and kids but for the most part when I think about the past I have resentment.... 

  

And your belief that you think I'm in love with my lesbian friend just because we have things in common and she listens to me and my problems is NOT the case.  I am in love with her because I am.  I don't feel you can explain the reason you are in love you just know that you are.  I feel it in my heart, way more then I do with my husband or for that fact more then I have ever felt for my husband. 

  

My future is with my family because for one this woman my friend does not feel the same about me as I do her but if she did and we choose to be together I would not have to as you said "think well before destroying everything I built during many years" because my husband and I didn't really build anything, our relationship while he was an alcoholic was just more or less a co-existing relationship.  Now he has quit drinking and I have decided to stay and try to work things out with him and things are doing better because he is closer to a whole person that can have a healthy relationship then he was all those years ago when he was drinking and was I feel only have a person that couldn't have a healthy relationship. 


I appreciate anyone's opions and would love to hear if anyone else has anything to say but I do want everyone to know the love that I feel for my friend is for real, trust me still feeling it after 4 years so please don't try to tell me it is not.  I wish to have support in what to do and how to deal with it along with issues that I have with my husband our past and hopefully our future together. 

  

Tamitha 

  

 
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February 9, 2006, 1:48 pm PST

Being a good frien, what does that really mean?

Quote From: bankmary

Being a good friend means to never judge the person by what he or she does. I always try to show my support to my friends and be there when they need me. Honesty is always an important part of any friendship or relationship.
 To me, friendship is like any other relationship, it requieres mutual respect, honesty, time and effort put in by both parties. It does not go automatically, you have to work at it.
Build a level of trust where you can be yourself, but not at the expense of someone else.
True friends tell you what other people don't dare, they do not walk ahead or behind, but right next to you, they don't judge you when you make a mistake and they stick with you through thick and thin.
But most of all, the love you for who you are, not for what you do/don't do.
 

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