Topic : Betrayal

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Created on : Thursday, July 07, 2005, 09:19:05 am
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What do you do when a trusted friend stabs you in the back? Give them a chance to explain? Or end the friendship?

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September 13, 2006, 8:55 am PDT

Betrayal

i recently jsu had a friend so something incredibly shady to me. I hav e known this girl since I was 9 years old. Well she was dating a guy name kevin so she hooked me up with his best friend shaun. Well we would all hang out just the 4 of us but me and shaun really didn't hit it off because i found out that he had a girlfriend. So ofcourse i confronted my friend on why wouldn't she tell me that pretty important piece of information. she swore that she did not know and at that same time her and kevin were breaking up cause she found out that he was cheating. So couple days go by and everytime i call my friend sheis with shaun but she claims that they are just hanging out and since neither one of them have jobs i don't think anything of it. so one night i go over to my friends house and i hear them upstairs arguing about me (she never locks her door so i had just walked in and nither one of theem new i was downstairs) i heard shaun say why wasa coming over she knew how he felt about me. So when they come downstairs i act like had just got there. and the two of them are doing alot of flirting and slapping butts. so i leave and i come to find out maybe a week later that they are together and they live together. but she never told me the way i found out is i came over one day and the door was opeen as usual and i really had to go to the bathroom so i just ran into there and when i came out he was laying in her bed. and he has clothes, shoes and so forth over there. but she didn't even tell me i had to find out by it being thrown in my face.
 
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September 21, 2006, 8:26 am PDT

how do I handle this one

Hey I guess I am feeling real bad right now and I should.  Here is the deal.  I moved into a friend's house a few months back and everything was going great.  Then there was a turn of events.  I started becoming really attracted to her boyfriend.  He is not someone that I would want to be involved with as far as relationships go but I am sexually attracted to him.  I noticed he was attracted to me too because he would just look at me in a certain way at first.  Then one day he was laying down on the couch where I could see him and he showed me his private parts.  Then I knew that he did want to be with me sexually.  Well one day my friend went to work and I stayed home.  I was still in bed when he came back and started rubbing my back and making advances.  Then we committed the ultimate betrayal.  I feel bad about it to a certain extent but not like I should cause my friend has done me wrong in the past, just never slept with my boyfriend.  We still mess around and I want it to happen again even though it is wrong..What do I do???
 
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September 21, 2006, 1:22 pm PDT

ah...Hello??

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Hey I guess I am feeling real bad right now and I should.  Here is the deal.  I moved into a friend's house a few months back and everything was going great.  Then there was a turn of events.  I started becoming really attracted to her boyfriend.  He is not someone that I would want to be involved with as far as relationships go but I am sexually attracted to him.  I noticed he was attracted to me too because he would just look at me in a certain way at first.  Then one day he was laying down on the couch where I could see him and he showed me his private parts.  Then I knew that he did want to be with me sexually.  Well one day my friend went to work and I stayed home.  I was still in bed when he came back and started rubbing my back and making advances.  Then we committed the ultimate betrayal.  I feel bad about it to a certain extent but not like I should cause my friend has done me wrong in the past, just never slept with my boyfriend.  We still mess around and I want it to happen again even though it is wrong..What do I do???

You may "want" to continue this "messing" around and it's probably only sexual - BUT your friend is still your friend, otherwise you would not be staying with her, and he is HER boyfriend!!! I wonder what age all you guys are/? I reckon pretty young,  but still have you ever had your heart broken or been betrayed by two people you cared about - one maybe even loved??- Can you remember how that feels??I think you should get yourself out of that house pronto- As for the guy - what a sleaze!!- he must have a real high opinion of you- "Boy that was easy!! and she is unlikely to tell her friend - lovely- have my cake and eat it too!!"- Man!! what a dog!! If you had any real feelings for your friend you would arrnage another place to live, sit down with her in private and tell her what a dog her boyfriend is- I hope everything works out ok but really you need to get away - both you and she deserve better! It's all gonna end in tears!

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September 29, 2006, 12:41 pm PDT

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i have a big one,i have been with my husband for 17 years we dated for 11  and have been married for 6, we have had are problems  and we have talked about ending  it,  and we have 2 kids togther and they came home one day from school and wanted there friends to come out which are brother and sister so i told them i had to meet there mom frist.

  we became friends  and hung out once in awile   i introduced her to my husband  and the shortly after that we really started having problems we ended it and  then she would come  out to my house and we would let are kids play.  me and my husband stil  are friends and a little bit more but we are divorcing  and her kids came out to spend the night  and i found out that she was with my husband  out on a date.  and ever sence that they go out  and still talk he tells me he  wishes she would leave him alone i dont beleave him cause he always talks to her and they go out  and he even  brings her to family get togethers   i dont think i would be so upset but he is still sleeping with me,  and then he tells me he still loves me and then   runs to her  he acuses me of stocing them and i dont that would be a waste of my time,  i hate her and i want to hurt her  he doesnt even   do anything with are kids   cause he is out with her.

    what should i do

 
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September 30, 2006, 1:56 pm PDT

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Hey I guess I am feeling real bad right now and I should.  Here is the deal.  I moved into a friend's house a few months back and everything was going great.  Then there was a turn of events.  I started becoming really attracted to her boyfriend.  He is not someone that I would want to be involved with as far as relationships go but I am sexually attracted to him.  I noticed he was attracted to me too because he would just look at me in a certain way at first.  Then one day he was laying down on the couch where I could see him and he showed me his private parts.  Then I knew that he did want to be with me sexually.  Well one day my friend went to work and I stayed home.  I was still in bed when he came back and started rubbing my back and making advances.  Then we committed the ultimate betrayal.  I feel bad about it to a certain extent but not like I should cause my friend has done me wrong in the past, just never slept with my boyfriend.  We still mess around and I want it to happen again even though it is wrong..What do I do???
You said that your girlfriend has done you wrong in the past, but she never slept with your boyfriend. So, does that mean this “payback” was premeditated?
Did you think that, perhaps your friend has done you wrong in the past, but, she is allowing you to stay at her home, so that kinda un-does her wrong-doing? And what could have been so wrong that you would even live with her anyway, but still have sex with her man?
You are doing your friend wrong but you are doing yourself wrong. Do you really think that all you deserve is the scraps this sleaze bag will throw you? Perhaps at this time your self esteem is so low that you believe this is all that you deserve- but there is so much more in life.
 
 
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October 6, 2006, 9:31 pm PDT

What do you call this betryal or a mess

Hello, I would like to know if you consider this betrayal.  I am confused and would like some proper understanding and advice.  

  I am a happy married women, I had made several friends at work.  What I am about to share is a tad interesting.  I met the person Jane at work.  Jane and I never got along we just did not like one another.  We both always had something to say and at times it was negative remarks.  I like Jane and for some reason there seem to be slight attraction.  I did express myself to Jane and she said, she had the feeling I did like her,  she then went on to say, there is no attraction on her part.  I understood what she said and was wondering why would this be...  I then said okay, being married for 5 years and happy at that why would that be possible human nature. That has been my first attraction ever.

 So I begin to meet other workers and  met this wonderful older person named Mary.
 Marry was funny and dear we enjoyed a laughter during lunch and was a great feeling to meet someone that seemed so funny.  Jane had seen me with this person and deceided to join in Next thing you know Jane had kept being with us and was funny.    I had asked Jane why the sudden changed, she replied a change of heart.

 I did not understand the change of heart.  I am a understanding person and thought okay.  Only to find out a couple of months later Jane had shared with me that she was in lust with Mary. I was shocked to hear such a thing. " meaing I had express myself and that was end of story, but with Jane it was diffrent there were tons of emails at work and at home she would email thinking Mary. It became so bad Jane could not take the crush she like mary so much she told me she loved her?  I said love? How can you love, somebody that you don't know she had stated its a love thing trust me. I figure since Jane is young she probably did not know what true love is...  Well months went by I had to hear stories about mary and mary and mary. I was sick of hearing stories about mary and decided to tell Mary myself. Mary seem shocked at the words then I said its a young crush thing,  I was also honest with mary and told her my feelings she laughed and said, she is a beautiful young lady that is true, but deep in the heart where would it go. I then thought about what she said and realized yes she is right where would this go.  Well finally Jane step up to the plate and told Mary what she thought of her. Mary was understanding and said, I am so happy you thought of me in this way but I can not go that route with you. You are a wondeful person and I have my friendship to you.  Jane was hurt with that response and wishes she could have more, she has gotten me to send emails to Mary, and ask Mary this and finally one day I said look.  I am so fricken tired being your "pimp"  I dont want this. and exspecially when I had told you my feelings towards you, it almost seem like a slap in the face. I was upset because I had had it.

 Jane went on to say i was Jealous  i said what? WIth a look to slap, I said no  its not like that you are just getting to me and you say you want to be my friend? How can I be someone friend who only wants to talk about Mary, I want to know more other then Mary, can you give me that much. She seemed shock at my response but I left it at that. After a while Jane accept Mary as a friend and keeps in contact with her leaving me with nothing. I was upset at first almost feeling How dare she used me to get close with someone else.  I came to the point I can't even look at this person. Mary likes jane and is okay with the attraction she finds her sweet and smart and a hard worker... I had told Mary I am okay with that,  but did express to her I did not like the idea of being used, Mary seem confused on that response and I had shared with her, but left it as teach this young girl what a real friend is. 

Now my question is to get another opinion and a honest one. Is it rude of me to not talk to jane and ingore her it bothers me because in my opinion I felt used.  I just need a 3rd party opinion.
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October 10, 2006, 1:00 pm PDT

think carefully

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Hey I guess I am feeling real bad right now and I should.  Here is the deal.  I moved into a friend's house a few months back and everything was going great.  Then there was a turn of events.  I started becoming really attracted to her boyfriend.  He is not someone that I would want to be involved with as far as relationships go but I am sexually attracted to him.  I noticed he was attracted to me too because he would just look at me in a certain way at first.  Then one day he was laying down on the couch where I could see him and he showed me his private parts.  Then I knew that he did want to be with me sexually.  Well one day my friend went to work and I stayed home.  I was still in bed when he came back and started rubbing my back and making advances.  Then we committed the ultimate betrayal.  I feel bad about it to a certain extent but not like I should cause my friend has done me wrong in the past, just never slept with my boyfriend.  We still mess around and I want it to happen again even though it is wrong..What do I do???

It dont matter if  your friend has made mistakes in the past.  does too  wrongs  make a right? if you forgave her she must of done something to make you beleave she was sorry,  or she would  not be your friend.  she was nice enough to let you move in and this is how you repay her,  in need to be honest with yourself and her if you still want to see him then move out  and tell her cause sooner or later  she will find out and do you think it will be better to hear it from you or  someone else  that is just trying to be a friend and  trying to help. think about that  

 
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October 10, 2006, 1:11 pm PDT

dont put up with peoples crap

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Hello, I would like to know if you consider this betrayal.  I am confused and would like some proper understanding and advice.  

  I am a happy married women, I had made several friends at work.  What I am about to share is a tad interesting.  I met the person Jane at work.  Jane and I never got along we just did not like one another.  We both always had something to say and at times it was negative remarks.  I like Jane and for some reason there seem to be slight attraction.  I did express myself to Jane and she said, she had the feeling I did like her,  she then went on to say, there is no attraction on her part.  I understood what she said and was wondering why would this be...  I then said okay, being married for 5 years and happy at that why would that be possible human nature. That has been my first attraction ever.

 So I begin to meet other workers and  met this wonderful older person named Mary.
 Marry was funny and dear we enjoyed a laughter during lunch and was a great feeling to meet someone that seemed so funny.  Jane had seen me with this person and deceided to join in Next thing you know Jane had kept being with us and was funny.    I had asked Jane why the sudden changed, she replied a change of heart.

 I did not understand the change of heart.  I am a understanding person and thought okay.  Only to find out a couple of months later Jane had shared with me that she was in lust with Mary. I was shocked to hear such a thing. " meaing I had express myself and that was end of story, but with Jane it was diffrent there were tons of emails at work and at home she would email thinking Mary. It became so bad Jane could not take the crush she like mary so much she told me she loved her?  I said love? How can you love, somebody that you don't know she had stated its a love thing trust me. I figure since Jane is young she probably did not know what true love is...  Well months went by I had to hear stories about mary and mary and mary. I was sick of hearing stories about mary and decided to tell Mary myself. Mary seem shocked at the words then I said its a young crush thing,  I was also honest with mary and told her my feelings she laughed and said, she is a beautiful young lady that is true, but deep in the heart where would it go. I then thought about what she said and realized yes she is right where would this go.  Well finally Jane step up to the plate and told Mary what she thought of her. Mary was understanding and said, I am so happy you thought of me in this way but I can not go that route with you. You are a wondeful person and I have my friendship to you.  Jane was hurt with that response and wishes she could have more, she has gotten me to send emails to Mary, and ask Mary this and finally one day I said look.  I am so fricken tired being your "pimp"  I dont want this. and exspecially when I had told you my feelings towards you, it almost seem like a slap in the face. I was upset because I had had it.

 Jane went on to say i was Jealous  i said what? WIth a look to slap, I said no  its not like that you are just getting to me and you say you want to be my friend? How can I be someone friend who only wants to talk about Mary, I want to know more other then Mary, can you give me that much. She seemed shock at my response but I left it at that. After a while Jane accept Mary as a friend and keeps in contact with her leaving me with nothing. I was upset at first almost feeling How dare she used me to get close with someone else.  I came to the point I can't even look at this person. Mary likes jane and is okay with the attraction she finds her sweet and smart and a hard worker... I had told Mary I am okay with that,  but did express to her I did not like the idea of being used, Mary seem confused on that response and I had shared with her, but left it as teach this young girl what a real friend is. 

Now my question is to get another opinion and a honest one. Is it rude of me to not talk to jane and ingore her it bothers me because in my opinion I felt used.  I just need a 3rd party opinion.
Thanks,

 hello,  i dont think you are rude,  you should follow your heart and if that is the way you feel  then you dont need her as a friend. a friend would not use you to  get closer to someone then  treat you like crap, you should find someone else  to be friends with and  if you decide you like them then try it again but dont let someone walk all over you  you are a better person than that

 
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October 10, 2006, 1:12 pm PDT

Betrayal

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Hello, I would like to know if you consider this betrayal.  I am confused and would like some proper understanding and advice.  

  I am a happy married women, I had made several friends at work.  What I am about to share is a tad interesting.  I met the person Jane at work.  Jane and I never got along we just did not like one another.  We both always had something to say and at times it was negative remarks.  I like Jane and for some reason there seem to be slight attraction.  I did express myself to Jane and she said, she had the feeling I did like her,  she then went on to say, there is no attraction on her part.  I understood what she said and was wondering why would this be...  I then said okay, being married for 5 years and happy at that why would that be possible human nature. That has been my first attraction ever.

 So I begin to meet other workers and  met this wonderful older person named Mary.
 Marry was funny and dear we enjoyed a laughter during lunch and was a great feeling to meet someone that seemed so funny.  Jane had seen me with this person and deceided to join in Next thing you know Jane had kept being with us and was funny.    I had asked Jane why the sudden changed, she replied a change of heart.

 I did not understand the change of heart.  I am a understanding person and thought okay.  Only to find out a couple of months later Jane had shared with me that she was in lust with Mary. I was shocked to hear such a thing. " meaing I had express myself and that was end of story, but with Jane it was diffrent there were tons of emails at work and at home she would email thinking Mary. It became so bad Jane could not take the crush she like mary so much she told me she loved her?  I said love? How can you love, somebody that you don't know she had stated its a love thing trust me. I figure since Jane is young she probably did not know what true love is...  Well months went by I had to hear stories about mary and mary and mary. I was sick of hearing stories about mary and decided to tell Mary myself. Mary seem shocked at the words then I said its a young crush thing,  I was also honest with mary and told her my feelings she laughed and said, she is a beautiful young lady that is true, but deep in the heart where would it go. I then thought about what she said and realized yes she is right where would this go.  Well finally Jane step up to the plate and told Mary what she thought of her. Mary was understanding and said, I am so happy you thought of me in this way but I can not go that route with you. You are a wondeful person and I have my friendship to you.  Jane was hurt with that response and wishes she could have more, she has gotten me to send emails to Mary, and ask Mary this and finally one day I said look.  I am so fricken tired being your "pimp"  I dont want this. and exspecially when I had told you my feelings towards you, it almost seem like a slap in the face. I was upset because I had had it.

 Jane went on to say i was Jealous  i said what? WIth a look to slap, I said no  its not like that you are just getting to me and you say you want to be my friend? How can I be someone friend who only wants to talk about Mary, I want to know more other then Mary, can you give me that much. She seemed shock at my response but I left it at that. After a while Jane accept Mary as a friend and keeps in contact with her leaving me with nothing. I was upset at first almost feeling How dare she used me to get close with someone else.  I came to the point I can't even look at this person. Mary likes jane and is okay with the attraction she finds her sweet and smart and a hard worker... I had told Mary I am okay with that,  but did express to her I did not like the idea of being used, Mary seem confused on that response and I had shared with her, but left it as teach this young girl what a real friend is. 

Now my question is to get another opinion and a honest one. Is it rude of me to not talk to jane and ingore her it bothers me because in my opinion I felt used.  I just need a 3rd party opinion.
Thanks,

 hello,  i dont think you are rude,  you should follow your heart and if that is the way you feel  then you dont need her as a friend. a friend would not use you to  get closer to someone then  treat you like crap, you should find someone else  to be friends with and  if you decide you like them then try it again but dont let someone walk all over you  you are a better person than that

 
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October 14, 2006, 4:28 pm PDT

friends that over visit

Tell me how to tell a friend that over visits.  One that calls and is told we have plans, and will track us down.  Told we want to spend time together and ask over and over again to come over.  I know my house my rules, but he has been friends with my husband for more than 30 years.  I like him, but I want him to respect us, not drop by, not stay for 10 hours plus.  Tell me how to say it in a way that someone would understand.
 

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