Topic : Ending Toxic Friendships

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Created on : Thursday, July 07, 2005, 09:20:14 am
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It can be hard to extricate yourself from a friendship gone bad. Share your stories and strategies for handling this sticky situation.

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June 2, 2006, 12:34 pm PDT

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Hi, I'm new to this board and haven't yet had a chance to read all the posts, so I apologize if this topic has already been discussed.  To make a long story short, I decided to stop getting together with a toxic acquaintance (I could never say we were friends) nearly a year ago.  Although we weren't particularly close, everytime we would see eachother (playgroup, mom's group, etc.) she would be very negative and critical of everyone and everything.  I've known this woman for several years and eventually learned that she was also gossiping and even telling lies about me and my children to my neighbors and others.  I decided to make a clean break of it (along with several other women friends who had also had enough of her gossip and mean cracks about our life choices, childcare preferences, decisions to work outside the home, etc.).  The problem is, my husband decided after the fact that he would continue to socialize with her husband and allow our children to play with hers.  It is as if he goes out of his way to make me spend time with her (as if that would help) and I have to sit and bite my tongue as she makes cracks about people who go back to school, work outside the home, put their kids in daycare, etc.  I don't know who to be more angry with -- her for being a pill, or my husband for deciding for us that we MUST socialize with them.  Any suggestions?  Should I just find an excuse not to be present or continue to put up with her when I must?  Thanks.  

Appleoak, I think we've all experienced a "friend" like yours at one time or another.  I have been "lucky" enough to experience a few like her.  First during my school years one girl always gave me a hard time, but I soon realized that she had nasty things to say about alot of people. More recently it has been a neighbor.  We used to get together for coffee when the kids were young.  She was very critical of so many people.  I think she was envious of others, and perhaps your "friend" too really envies those who are working or furthering their education.  Eventually when I decided to further my own education she turned on me.  She picked a fight, then twisted things to put me in the wrong and gossiped to other neighbors about me.  We didn't talk for a long time.  Eventually I took the high road and began to talk to her again, mainly because it was awkward avoiding her when we live so close by.  But the trust is gone so it is only small talk and I will never consider becoming friends again. 

  

In your case, maybe your husband does enjoy a good friendship with her husband and maybe the kids do play well together.  Do you have to go along all the time if your husband is going over there?  You should address this with him and express your concerns.  Myabe tell him that the friendship seems to work for him and the kids, but you are very uncomfortable around her knowing how she trashes other people, including you!  Maybe you can beg off the visiting.  Have other plans when he is going there.   But if you do go, you don't have to, and shouldn't bite your tongue when she says nasty things about others.    You can be nice about  how you go about this.  Just say something like "I see it differently than you"......or how bout "there are many different lifestyles that people have and we all need to do what is best in our particular case.  Your lifestyle seems to be working for you but Mary's is working out very nicely with her working outside the home".  Good luck to you! 

 
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June 4, 2006, 2:51 pm PDT

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I need advice on relationships with family and friends.My question is that I am a very caring person. I feel that I do all the calling and inviting but if I don't call them they don't call me. I don't understand !   

Should I continue to call and invite or do I stop1 I feel that I am giving them all the attention but in return I feel I am not being noticed !   

 
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June 4, 2006, 8:51 pm PDT

Emotional relationships

Can women be friends with married male collegues or should one give this a total miss? I recently spend some time working closely with a collegue and in doing so we bacame good friends. We began sharing our dreams, fears and secrets. I was unaware of what was actually happening at the time and valued the friendship immensley. Of course collegues started to question our closness and began to wonder if he was having an affair with me, something i thought was untrue. I guess your wondering how I thought this was untrue, surely i had to know if it was true didn't I? Let me explain, I believed that we had not been having an affair as there had never been any physical contact between us, little did I relaise i was involved in an emotional relationship with this man. I had become dependent on him and he on me, he moved away from his wife and at that time I knew I needed to face fact and end this friendship. It was not easy, I moved from my home, gave up my job and spent many hours pondering over what might have been. The experience taught me to grow up and take responsibility for my actions and also taught me to question things. i am unsure wether I will ever be able to have a male friend agian and I find that sad. Has this ever happened to you or someone you know? Do you think emtional relationships exist?
 
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June 5, 2006, 6:49 am PDT

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Hello All,  

This is my first time on the board, so please forgive me for my long post. I had this person who I thought was a friend since middle school. We rode to school together, particpated in the same activities, ect. All the while, she would tell everyone whatever I told her. She would lie about me, and destroy relationships I had with other people. This behavior continue throughout college, until the day I married, she was a suppossed to be bridesmaid that didn't show up for the wedding ( another bridesmaid told me she had no intention of coming).  

My problem is, that in fact she is related (by marriage) to my husband. So, its only a matter of time until we cross paths again (Its been five years). In fact she called my husband 'just to say hi', Saturday. Said nothing to me at all.  

So how do I deal with this. To be honest a HUGE part of me wants to yell and scream, but I wouldn't give her the satifaction. So one please help!!  

 
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June 5, 2006, 11:47 am PDT

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Hello All,  

This is my first time on the board, so please forgive me for my long post. I had this person who I thought was a friend since middle school. We rode to school together, particpated in the same activities, ect. All the while, she would tell everyone whatever I told her. She would lie about me, and destroy relationships I had with other people. This behavior continue throughout college, until the day I married, she was a suppossed to be bridesmaid that didn't show up for the wedding ( another bridesmaid told me she had no intention of coming).  

My problem is, that in fact she is related (by marriage) to my husband. So, its only a matter of time until we cross paths again (Its been five years). In fact she called my husband 'just to say hi', Saturday. Said nothing to me at all.  

So how do I deal with this. To be honest a HUGE part of me wants to yell and scream, but I wouldn't give her the satifaction. So one please help!!  

This ‘friend’ sounds terrible!! I need to ask you, why did you remain friends with her for so long? The things that she did and said were not things that a friend would do, she acted more like an enemy. The very best thing you could do regarding this woman is to not respond to her at all. I know you want to yell and scream, because you feel that you would get some satisfaction from that- however, it would be giving her even more satisfaction, and that’s the last thing you want to do! You don’t want her to have any more of your personal power, she doesn’t deserve it.  You must allow yourself to let go of this woman, and the best way to do that is to forgive. Yes, it is difficult to do that-- she is an evil person-- but she truly must have something wrong with her. Perhaps she has an undiagnosed mental illness or a personality disorder. To find forgiveness for her would be like a gift to yourself, because then, you don’t have to carry around the anger. She doesn’t need to know that you’ve forgiven her, this is just for YOU.
Now.. If she is a relative of your husband’s, and she didn’t show up at your wedding.. Isn’t your husband p*ssed at her, too? Did he chat with her on the phone when she called, and does he want anything to do with her? My advice for both you and your husband is to simply smile and say ‘hi’ or wave when your paths cross. Don’t chat with her, don’t give her an update on your life- she doesn’t deserve to know anything about you. Ask your husband to not tell her anything important about your lives.
Its very sad that this person you thought was a friend stabbed you in the back so hard. You didn’t deserve to be treated that way. You deserve to have happy, healthy relationships!! Be good to yourself and I wish you well.
 
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June 5, 2006, 11:52 am PDT

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Can women be friends with married male collegues or should one give this a total miss? I recently spend some time working closely with a collegue and in doing so we bacame good friends. We began sharing our dreams, fears and secrets. I was unaware of what was actually happening at the time and valued the friendship immensley. Of course collegues started to question our closness and began to wonder if he was having an affair with me, something i thought was untrue. I guess your wondering how I thought this was untrue, surely i had to know if it was true didn't I? Let me explain, I believed that we had not been having an affair as there had never been any physical contact between us, little did I relaise i was involved in an emotional relationship with this man. I had become dependent on him and he on me, he moved away from his wife and at that time I knew I needed to face fact and end this friendship. It was not easy, I moved from my home, gave up my job and spent many hours pondering over what might have been. The experience taught me to grow up and take responsibility for my actions and also taught me to question things. i am unsure wether I will ever be able to have a male friend agian and I find that sad. Has this ever happened to you or someone you know? Do you think emtional relationships exist?
Yes, emotional relationships exist!
What you went through must have been difficult, but I urge you to look at the positives that came out of the experience: as you said, you learned to grow up and take accountability for your actions. You are no longer a naive girl, you now know to question yourself and others. Although these were hard lessons to learn, you will be a better person for it in the long run.
To make your healing process speed along, I suggest that you learn to forgive yourself. When you can forgive yourself, you will find that your load of guilt and regret will lighten. You need to remember that, when you know better, you do better- and that is what you intend to do from here on out. I wish you the best!
 
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June 5, 2006, 11:57 am PDT

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I need advice on relationships with family and friends.My question is that I am a very caring person. I feel that I do all the calling and inviting but if I don't call them they don't call me. I don't understand !   

Should I continue to call and invite or do I stop1 I feel that I am giving them all the attention but in return I feel I am not being noticed !   

From what you describe, it sounds like you are feeling taken for granted, or, taken advantage of. I urge you to take a good look at the people you are talking about, are they the type of people who have gatherings? Are they the type of people who shower attention on others?
The best thing you could do for yourself would be to back off on your generosity.
 
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June 6, 2006, 6:34 pm PDT

Ending Toxic Friendships

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Yes, emotional relationships exist!
What you went through must have been difficult, but I urge you to look at the positives that came out of the experience: as you said, you learned to grow up and take accountability for your actions. You are no longer a naive girl, you now know to question yourself and others. Although these were hard lessons to learn, you will be a better person for it in the long run.
To make your healing process speed along, I suggest that you learn to forgive yourself. When you can forgive yourself, you will find that your load of guilt and regret will lighten. You need to remember that, when you know better, you do better- and that is what you intend to do from here on out. I wish you the best!
Thankyou for your thoughts. I never really contemplated forgiving myself, I was to caught up in trying to work out how the whole situation even occured. Your words offer me some encouragement. Thankyou for taking the time to respond.
 
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June 7, 2006, 11:34 am PDT

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This ‘friend’ sounds terrible!! I need to ask you, why did you remain friends with her for so long? The things that she did and said were not things that a friend would do, she acted more like an enemy. The very best thing you could do regarding this woman is to not respond to her at all. I know you want to yell and scream, because you feel that you would get some satisfaction from that- however, it would be giving her even more satisfaction, and that’s the last thing you want to do! You don’t want her to have any more of your personal power, she doesn’t deserve it.  You must allow yourself to let go of this woman, and the best way to do that is to forgive. Yes, it is difficult to do that-- she is an evil person-- but she truly must have something wrong with her. Perhaps she has an undiagnosed mental illness or a personality disorder. To find forgiveness for her would be like a gift to yourself, because then, you don’t have to carry around the anger. She doesn’t need to know that you’ve forgiven her, this is just for YOU.
Now.. If she is a relative of your husband’s, and she didn’t show up at your wedding.. Isn’t your husband p*ssed at her, too? Did he chat with her on the phone when she called, and does he want anything to do with her? My advice for both you and your husband is to simply smile and say ‘hi’ or wave when your paths cross. Don’t chat with her, don’t give her an update on your life- she doesn’t deserve to know anything about you. Ask your husband to not tell her anything important about your lives.
Its very sad that this person you thought was a friend stabbed you in the back so hard. You didn’t deserve to be treated that way. You deserve to have happy, healthy relationships!! Be good to yourself and I wish you well.

Thank you so much for responding. I will take you advice, and will advise my hubby to do the same. I don't know if he's knows the extent of how she is, but he's really good at respecting my feelings. I just don't get her; she did this other people, but not to the extent of what she did to me. A big part of me just wants to know why, why me? I promise I never did anything to warrant such behavior. Jealously, maybe, but for so long!!?? (10 years)?? I guess I'll never understand. ( I wonder if she's a narcissist ?) 

 
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June 10, 2006, 3:36 pm PDT

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Alright so here is my problem, or situation rather. I had this "friend" who i recently cut off contact with, because of how they started to treat me. It was partially my fault for always trying to "compromise" and work it out, but I finally did draw the line. Anyways, now I'm wondering if it was the right thing to do. Our friendship was very short-lived, barely 2 months, but the impact this person had on me was great and I miss them.  

  

A bit of a background on this (a tad long, so bear with me) :  

  

Very shortly ( a matter of days) after we met, he was very flirtatious, nice and saying he wanted to take me out etc... Not a problem.   

  

However, very soon after that he started inquiring as to why I did certain things, how I took care of myself , not confiding in him about a personal issue i chose not to speak of, and if what I did, didn't fit his "logic" he snubbed me, guilt tripped me , and just plain out got nasty.  Each time something went wrong, such as I didn't flirt back or I questioned his motives (not in a rude way, just in a cautious way since we had literally just met) he thought it was because he is a guy and I was stereotyping him, even after i explained to him my actual reasoning and that  it was nothing personal. He still chose not to "get it." and essentially, I think,  chose to blame  me for his misinterpretation. A few days later th en said we couldn't be friends anymore, because he didn't want that "drama" in his life while ironically at the same time sending me 50 (literally) blank e-mails.   

  

So anyway, we worked it out and things went really well for a bit ( a bit emphasis on the 'bit' part. I sometimes think my forgiving nature is a magnet for these types of people, and perhaps low self-esteem). We didnt talk for a few days, because of work and the first thing he says to me is to criticize  me about an opinion of mine. When i reacted to what he said, he had a problem with that and accused me of  coping an attitude he didn't deserve and being overly sensitive,that reminded him of his mom and sister which  he found annoying. In short, I could never do anything right. When I was nice, I got pounded, when I stepped up I got pounded. Each thing I did wrong, he was qick to disparage, but refused to take note that he was doing the exact same thing he percevied I to be enaging in, even when i tried to explain otherwise.  

  

 He was tempermental towards me and even threw abuse I experience growing up in my face . He later on said he regretted saying such things (claiming he did it onyl out of anger), but that was only after i asked him if ever planned on doing so, but refused to for anything else he has said or done since it "wasn't" wrong, and even mocked my feelings a couple of times, just because he was "angry". Once again we "worked" it out, or so I thought. He the got into it with a friend of mine and left me some sarcastic message, whether or not it was directed towards me I dont  know. All i know is 3 days later he once again said we couldn't be friends, only this time sending (literally) 152 messages. That's when I drew the line ( ya, i know took me long enough). I didn't repsond to such a cry for attention and cut him out of my life. I would have inquired as to what his reasoning was, but I didn't want to be run down, yet again. So, I went away silently. He hasn't contacted me since (only been a few weeks, so we shall see).  

  

Now i find out he is in a relationship with someone, who he has known for a few years and is apparently in love with her.  I guess it semi-hurts, because he chose to treat me like that and apparently treats her so well.I know he has known her longer then I , but I still don't understand what I did to ask for that treatment when I feel I tried my best and gave that former friendship my all. I try to stay postive and I'm a believer in both God and Karma, but it doesn't seem fair that he could treat someone so shity and then be lucky enough to find someone who makes him happy.  

  

How do I get in my head an accept that I have not lost prince charming, but rather escaped the grasp of someone who isn't good for me.  

  

Thanks all for your advice!  

 

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