Quote From: tammy_anneIt really does take two to make a marriage work. This issue you are having is going to cause a lot of problems, well o guess it already is..not a very happy place to be in. Ok, so you made mistakes and choose to work them out and try and save your marriage, now your wife is having an emotional affair with another man. You are correct in your assumption that this is going to seriously hamper you and your wife's ability to work on your marriage.
Honestly you have to look at it from both sides.
If she continues bonding with this man on a emotional level, the marriage will fail.
If she stops bonding with this man and makes a serious effort to work on the marriage it has a chance of succeeding.
Therefore, if you tell her to stop and start investing in your marriage, and she does it has a chance to succeed. If she chooses him over you, the marriage was already over, and she had no interest in rebuilding the marriage.
why was it necessary for you to promise not to listen to what your wife was saying to this man?
In my opinion if either spouse makes the other make a promise like that, then there is something going on that should not be going on.
Be honest with her and tell her how you feel when she talks with this other man. something you might also want to try is this, ok if you are going to be friends with this man, he must be a pretty good guy so I want to be friends with him too! Set up a dinner party and arrange to have a female friend be there so it is not lopsided, gender wise :). Letting this man meet and see you puts a whole new perspective on things, and does not allow objectifying people,but puts feelings, and faces together.
If this is just a friendship as your wife is claiming, then expanding the friendship to include you is not going to be a big deal, and having another female present at the meeting should make things a little more comfortable, unless your wife has a sense of ownership over this man, and it will be clearer as to what her motivation for communicating with this man is.
No you are not wrong for feeling the way you are feeling.
Also, put a lot of effort back into courting your wife, become the man that she wants to be with and talk to.
Leave little love notes and small gifts at random times in a place were she will find it. An example is a note saying...Just because...and a gift of a necklace or something nice. She will understand what "Just because" means, most Women do! lol. Some other random gifts could be a rose, chocolates, maybe a romantic video, that you can watch together, a snow globe, A hearflet love letter, A blown up picture of a favorite moment in your lives,in a sweet frame, you get the idea. What ever you can reasonably afford, make sure it is random, can get pricey if you try to get her something every day or more than once a week. As time goes by and the relationship begins to take on a better light, can cut back to once a month for a gift, as it could get pricey and you might run out of affordable ideas. Just remember any woman appreciates a rondom token or gift of appreciation and love, don't ever stop giving her gifts, we miss it whether we have been married for a year or fifty years, and no longer get those special somehtings "Just because".
Does she like to take baths? Fix up her bath for her with some really nice scented candles, and bath salts, and some romantic music that is meaningful to both of you, your wedding dance would be a good choice, along with some other romantic love songs. Have a big fluffy towel available for her, along with a sweet bathrobe.
Moonlight picnic, get her to put on a blind fold, take her to a really nice park, set up your moonlight picnic, candles, wine, cheese and other goodies, and a couple of candles, don't forget your trusty portable stereo with those romantic love songs, that are meaningful for you both. Have fun :).
Talking, be honest with your feelings, it is ok to let the hurt show, sometimes we women need to see the hurt men feel in order to connect with it. Sometimes, if we cant see the hurt in our hubby's eyes we assume he is not really all the torn up by whatever it is that is hurting them.
If you find that she is distant, or not responsive to talking, well then you are going to have to start initiating the communication, Talk about your hopes, dreams, and desires for your future together. Talk about things from your shared history, that you miss and would like to bring back in to the present.
Compliment, tell her how you see her. You think she is beautiful? Tell her that! Think that outfit makes her look sexy? Tell her that! Think she made a marvelous supper? Tell her that! you get the point hey?
Contact, a hug, a caress, a soft kiss on the neck, please don't try to get her to go to bed when you do this. Simple contact is really meaningful for us women, and when hubby figures a kiss automatically means bed time, we can get edgy and the contact just becomes a prelude to bed time rather than a touch that says I LOVE YOU!
Do things with her that she likes to do, hate bowling but she loves it? Well sorry guy learn to love it or simply tolerate it lol, still make sure laughter is a big part of the occasion, heck if you have to laugh at the fact that you are doing something you totally hate, for the woman you love lol :).
She says or does something that makes you angry? Stop! Look at what is really happening for you, I am angry, but what is really happening is I am scared I am losing you.
I am angry, but what is really happening is that my feelings are hurt, that you don't trust me.
I am angry, but what is really happening is I am confused, and don't want to look foolish.
Willful Anger is detrimental, stop before you say something you might regret, and find the motivating fear becomes a reality. Be honest with your self about what you are feeling, then decide if you want to take a risk with your wife and share the real feeling, or want to keep quiet.
Honestly, when two people love each other sharing the real feeling is not a risk, it is actually a building block to success.
Back to talking again for a minute, this just occurred to me, if your wife initiates a conversation, and wants to talk about your idiot episode, talk with her about it. don't shy away from it, get it out in the open and let her know exactly how much you really regret it, and how horrible you feel at the pain, humiliation and hurt you caused her. Turn of the radio, TV or other external noise, and really be there with her.
Let me know how things go with you and her, and I truly do wish you all the very best and success. going to go read your diary, look forward to hearing from you again, and hope that this day you can find some peace and serenity.
Tammy
I really don't know where to start. First, thank you for your wonderful response. You put a lot of time and thought into that. I do appreciate you for that.
At this point I have tried a lot of what your have suggested. The problem is that she still doesn't believe that my actions are genuine. The more I try to do for her and say how much I love her is interpreted as me wanting her to come around so we can have sex again. I can not convince her otherwise. That is one of her main motivations for being cold to me. If you read my other posts, I discuss the issues she has with this subject. Also, she is stand offish because she feels that I will expect her to drop her friends if we build our relationship back. I've never said anything about her dropping her female friends, I've only expressed concern about this guy friend she has. I know that is really what she's referring to. So these two factors are what is hindering her healing.
Regarding my promise to stop listening to her conversations, This happened back when I was being an idiot. I was listening a lot and got very angry, as mentioned in my diary. She felt that her privacy had been violated. so i had to promise that I wouldn't listen. Now I am stuck. She can do pretty much anything and I can't say a word about it and if I do she will say, well there's another promise that you have broken. Then she builds the wall higher.
I have met him and he's a really nice guy. The concern is really not with him. What she will tell me is that he has lot's of female friends that he talks to on the phone and over email. But I don't care what he does or what he's getting out of it. I only care what she does and what she is getting out of it. He may not be getting anything other than friendship but she feels that she is emotionally deprived from me, meaning that I am unable to fill her emotional need because of what I've done. She will not allow me to meet those needs even though I am fully capable of doing that. So she has to go else where. So she will spend more energy maintaining that relationship than she will rebuilding ours. That is where my concern is. At this point, I am not the priority in her live. She is and it doesn't matter really what I want. She has said that to me.
So here I am, stuck with this knowledge and have no idea what to do with it. I just wish there was a way I could tell her how I feel with out breaking my promise.
Again, thank you for you thoughts.
I-Guy