Topic : 01/01 Mama Drama

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Created on : Saturday, September 29, 2007, 09:20:10 am
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(Original Air Date: 10/03/07) Hating your own mother is hard to imagine, but today’s guests say they want nothing to do with the women who gave them life. Dr. Phil speaks with feuding mothers and daughters. Nineteen-year-old Megan says her mom, Tracy, is nothing but her egg donor. Megan has been singing since she was a child and is now a rising star in the music industry, but she says all she wants is for her pushy stage mom to butt out of her life. Tracy says Megan’s record deal is the worst thing that ever happened because it turned her sweet daughter into a stereotypical rock-and-roll singer who’s into sex, booze, drugs and rebellion. Can this relationship be saved? Then, Carrie calls her mother, Sarah, the “spawn of Satan.” Carrie wrote a book about Sarah’s real life near-death experience at the hands of a serial killer. Now the mother and daughter are fighting over who owns the rights to this compelling page-turner. Will they heal their relationship so that the book can get published? Talk about the show here.

Find out what happened on the show.


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October 3, 2007, 3:06 pm PDT

Um, off topic but...

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Megan, your song asks "Why do they hurt me?   Why do they leave me?"  You might look inside yourself for the answers.  Whatever our mothers have done - and none of them are perfect - we choose our response to that.  You have chosen to be hateful.  If you cultivated some grace and well-mannered assertiveness, you would not have to say hateful things in order to maintain your independence.  I don't know what your mother has actually done to you, but I doubt that it equals the sins of one young Texas mother a number of years ago.  Under the influence of drugs (which she chose to take) she put her 18  month old daughter in a large frying pan on the stove to cook her.  Neighbors heard the child's screams and saved her.  The point of this awful story is that, when this little girl was about your age, she looked beyond her scars and her vivid memory of the pain, and forgave her mother for this.  Sometimes the answers lie not in what people do to us, but rather in how we choose to respond to it.
I really think the cooking a baby story to be an urban legend. It is kind of the same story as the razor blade in candy and mice in the beer bottle...not that it changes your message any.
 
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October 3, 2007, 3:06 pm PDT

One more comment.

When I was sixteen years old I came home so disappointed of not having that special birthday. My mother and I fought and she screamed and said some awful things to me. When my dad took me for a drive to the store I told him I hated her. He said, "you don't hate your mother!" I told him that I didn't hate her forever but the feelings i felt at those moments were hate and I'm sure that is exactly what I believed at sixteen.

I was young and just wanted what all my friends had. I never have forgotten that fight. We didn't have professionals helping us and I have considered myself a self made woman in my eyes. I can laugh because I did achieve much on my own. I learned that  right or wrong she did the best she could and so did I. I guess I'm not such a "self" made woman if I learned to be a woman from my mothers mistatkes.

 I love her dearly and always will.

 
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October 3, 2007, 3:07 pm PDT

So True

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     Its all well and good that you and your wife have good relationships with your parents, but that is not the case for everyone.  Sometimes the best thing to do is to get away from the toxicity that a mother or father may put into your mind or life.  Just because they gave birth to you does not make them a parent.  I'm sure she feels sad, but then again, we really didn't hear the entire story and I would have liked to have heard more from the woman that Megan felt was more of a mother to her than her own mother.   When Megan started crying on stage, you said something to the effect, "You do miss your mother."  I disagree.  She misses the mother that she wanted which was what she was saying and why she was crying and you didn't listen to her tears, you read into them what you wanted to hear.  I want the same thing, and did for a lifetime until my mother died.  I never went to her funeral and I don't cry about her.  I cry for what I want from a mother, what I wanted from a mother and I am sad that I didn't have that and never will.  I think this is closer to how Megan feels than your interpretation.  I am happy for you and your wife that you have wonderful relationships, but please understand that its just not possible for everyone and sometimes letting go is better than holding on.
There are good and evil in all and some relationships are not to be! Even families can fail. But each person can have a full and happy life without a spawn in your life. Test tube babies seem to do well. No really there are people that could not and should not have children. You can see this on the news daily.
 
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October 3, 2007, 3:12 pm PDT

BULL

I feel it's a shame that neither daughter has much respect for themselves.  In this day and time parents are the reasons for all the wrongs of there childern.  When does a person admit that there is some things that are unexceptable.  Being nasty is one of them. 

 

And what industry/business of any kind would want to be involve with someone that cannot respect there mothers. 

 

DO THEY FEEL THAT THEY WILL NOT DISRESPECT THEM AS WELL.  DO THEY FEEL THESE ARE HONORABLE PEOPLE. WHAT KIND OF PERSON CANNOT RESPONSE TO THE QUESTION "DO YOU WANT ANY THING BAD TO HAPPEN TO YOUR MOTHER?"  SHE SEEMS  TO WISH HER HARM.

 

And the book girl, PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 
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October 3, 2007, 3:13 pm PDT

ridiculous girl

i'm really not that much older than megan and she strikes me as completely ridiculous and MELO-DRAMATIC!  i'm surher mother made mistakes, but i tend to believe her mother was rying to protect her from herself...obviosly she needed it!  but i can't understandwy she would be that hateful and horrible, theris no excuse than that. i hope she can grow up and work through this.

 

ps, thank you for bringing back the old style message boards!  i missed them!

 
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October 3, 2007, 3:14 pm PDT

WHAT?

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 He certainly didn't "reward" my ears. The cello and piano music were so pleasant,  could've listened for hours. But, that gal's  voice?  Sixty second's couldn't go by before I had to hit the mute button.
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That girl has talent!  A very beautiful voice. Just because you dont like the way she treats her mother, or her ways of the world, don't deny her voice. She is very talented.  I can bet money there will be lots of records sold as long as she doesn't burn out too quickly on the way up.  Unfortunately, the way down is alot quicker.  I'm not too sure about this whole/mother/daughter drama, both have done wrong, but hey she is an adult now and free to make her own choices. Mom should wise up and realize that, sooner or she will never have a relationship with her again. Like Dr Phil said, at least be a "safe place for her to fall" if the singing gig doesn't work out.   I say it will, esp if she gets a great manager and representation.  Anyone know her last name or name of the band? I'd love a CD
 
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October 3, 2007, 3:16 pm PDT

Can't solve these people's problems in 30 min.!

I don't think even Dr. Phil thinks he resovled anything with these highly disturbed folks in the short time he had.  It will take hours/months of help "if" they are willing to be helped.  I think all of them are very angry people.  Life hasn't turned out too good for any of them--yet.  But they can still turn this around.  They may have to distance themselves from each other for a while, then start with very short, pleasant phone calls.  Then, short visits.  Tiny steps will have to be taken, for both the Mothers and Daughters have "stepped over the line."  Mothers & Mother n laws tend to step over the line.  Sometimes out of best intentions, sometimes out of hatefulness--even toward their own daughters.  Stong willed daughters don't respond well to "in my face--mind me!" comments from their Moms.  They have tendancies like their Moms, and I know that's what makes them so frustrated.  No one wants to turn out like their Mom if their Mom has some hateful personality traits. 

 

Remember daughters:  Recognizing "your" tendancies" like your Mom may be enough, with help, to help you NOT become just like you see your Mom. 

 

My prayer daily is:  Lord, help me look beyond people's faults, and see their "needs."  The orneriest people usually have the most needs.   Don't give up on yourselves--Daughters or Moms.

 
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October 3, 2007, 3:17 pm PDT

UNGRATEFUL!!!!

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This young girl is so ungrateful to someone who raised her and supported her.  She is so disgusting I would never buy one of her cd's.  This is typical of the garbage that this country has to look forward to.

Seriously, this girl has the opportunity of a life time and her mother wants her to give it all up to go to school RIGHT NOW!!!  Give me a break, I am a college  graduate, but I didn't go when I was 18, granted I also didn't go because I had the opportunity to make millions it was just because I didn't want to.  I think the mother is hurting at the "lose" of her daughter, but I never heard her talk about her own job.  What does she do for a living?  Sounds to me like she was living off of Megan, and now she can't.  And she thinks she has a better chance of living off her from going to school because for now it would be a definate career path, not like taking the risk of becoming a singer.  Let her sow her oats while she is young, and all you grown people need to back off being so hateful to this little girl.  you all are talking about her being so hateful, what do you call what you all are doing!!??

 
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October 3, 2007, 3:18 pm PDT

I'm Disappointed and Depressed

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I was really excited about this show, because my sisters and I had a difficult relationship with our recently deceased mother. But is was more of a "she said, she said" and didn't resolve anything, even remotely. I have to say, I was emotionally responding to Megan, because public opinion is immediately against you if you say you "hate" your mother. I got over hating my mom, but I will never get over the emotional scars of growing up as a supporting player in her drama. My sisters feel the same way. We think she was probably abused as a child and developed some kind of narcissistic personablity disorder. And intellectually you can say, "Oh, well she couldn't help being the way she was." But I still wonder what it would be like to have had a parent who makes you feel wanted and important as a child. Our parents were WWII-generation, and I often wonder what kind of person my intelligent and witty mom might have been had she been born in say, the '70s. They got married and had kids, because that's what you did. We were made to feel like we DID ask to be born and were just a burden. Our dad was almost as bad as our mother, but mostly absent and a military male-chauvinist - but that's for another show; at least in later life he felt bad that he hadn't been a better father. My mother remained negative and critical until almost the end of her life. And like a final insult, she spent the last few weeks of her life being quite pleasant, probably just so we wouldn't feel like dancing on her grave. I was sad when she died, but for what might have been. 

So you can see how much I'm still grappling with my emotions over this, and the darned show didn't help, just brought up feelings that hurt - mainly that those who had good parents - apparently including Dr. Phil - don't truly understand what's it's like to have had bad parents. And no matter how much you move on and let go and seek the positive in life, it's always gonna be there in the background. So when someone says, "But she's your mother!" you just cringe and realize there's no point even trying to explain, even to Dr. Phil.

(Please don't judge me on this one post; I'm generally a positive, upbeat person who just wants everybody to get along!) 

 

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October 3, 2007, 3:20 pm PDT

Oh My god!

 That girl was a great great singer. Can we hear anymore of her song. She had the coolest voice. I loved it! WOW I am just blown away.
 

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