Topic : 01/01 Mama Drama

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(Original Air Date: 10/03/07) Hating your own mother is hard to imagine, but today’s guests say they want nothing to do with the women who gave them life. Dr. Phil speaks with feuding mothers and daughters. Nineteen-year-old Megan says her mom, Tracy, is nothing but her egg donor. Megan has been singing since she was a child and is now a rising star in the music industry, but she says all she wants is for her pushy stage mom to butt out of her life. Tracy says Megan’s record deal is the worst thing that ever happened because it turned her sweet daughter into a stereotypical rock-and-roll singer who’s into sex, booze, drugs and rebellion. Can this relationship be saved? Then, Carrie calls her mother, Sarah, the “spawn of Satan.” Carrie wrote a book about Sarah’s real life near-death experience at the hands of a serial killer. Now the mother and daughter are fighting over who owns the rights to this compelling page-turner. Will they heal their relationship so that the book can get published? Talk about the show here.

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October 10, 2007, 1:45 pm PDT

Great Music

Megan has a great voice. Anyone know her last name or the name of her CD?
 
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October 10, 2007, 3:52 pm PDT

10/03 Mama Drama

Im watching Moma Drama now. I have ran treatment facilities for years. I sense this young girl is on drugs due to her actions and her attitude. This mother was a single mother raising her daughter & she entrusted her daughter to her friend. When Megan was a minor her friend allowed her daughter to go to LA and drink and stay out late. I see her undermining their relationship, creating the good guy, bad guy syndrome. Sure mom's so called friend will be the favored bond, but would she one paying for rehab or attorney bills? Megan is an adult now and it might be best that the mother allow  her daughter to experience the entertainment industry, not be her manager,but develop her own life now so she can be there if her daughter needs her. Normally what I have seen (my ex-boyfrend worked for Dick Clark) in the industry, the snotty, cocky, arrogant ones dont normally last, it'sa very cut throat industry and a lot of young stars who are using drugs usually flake out quick.  I hope I am wrong and Megan is sober, and she has a good successful career with a heathy, strong, loving relationship with her mother. People in the entertainment industry come and go, but you only have one mom. It's easy to be the good guy allowing a minor to drink and stay out late, but it takes a sacrificial, strong woman to raise her daughter single, hanging in there for years from changing diapers to dealing with adolescence. I wish you the best Megan, I lost my mom to cancer and just got a call my dad has cancer. No matter what your relationship with your mom, you will miss her terribly when she is gone. I would do anything to see my mom again, but that will have to wait. I'm just glad we were at good terms or I think it would be a lot worse.

 

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October 10, 2007, 9:58 pm PDT

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I hope you don't mind me venting here.  I'm trying hard to keep from going ballistic until my daughter moves out.

 

I just got a call from my son and he was mad at his sister and her new husband for being unappreciative and selfish.  My new son-in-law told my son that the reason they were staying at a neighbors until they move into their house this weekend was because they can't take it any more (living at my house).  Initially, they were babysitting while the neighbor was out of town.

 

Here's the unbelievable reason...

 

They are tired of feeling like they need to mow the lawn and clean the house.  Imagine that!!!  Funny thing is, I have never asked him to mow the lawn.  After long bouts of my daughter not contributing to cleaning the common areas I ask for her help. My son reminded my son-in-law that they were saving a lot of money on rent and utilities and that mowing the lawn and helping clean the house was the least they could do. 

 

It's a shame I have to ask for help.  It's like being in an abusive relationship.  I get to where I’ve had enough, get upset and have to ask for help, then my daughter contributes to cooking and cleaning for a little while and then it's back to the bare minimum (her room and bedroom only).  I get upset again and she promises to do better, does for a short while and back to square one.

 

Just a few years ago my husband was commuting out of town and rented a room from my cousin for 7 months.  I visited him several times and while I was there I cooked, cleaned, and did more than my fair share.  My cousin was extremely grateful, appreciated the extra cash, and to this day says that it was a very positive experience and misses us very much.  I believe in treating others the way you would want to be treated and expected the same from my own daughter.

 

Trust me; I would have never tolerated this behavior if it hadn't been for my loving, wonderful grandchild and wanting to provide a stable, safe, and loving environment for him.  My husband and I thought we were doing the right thing by allowing them to live with us for a few months so they could save money to buy a house.  It’s sad that I feel we’ve been taken advantage of.

 

Please pray she grows up soon!  I don’t know how much longer I can keep from going off on my daughter and ruining our relationship for ever.

 
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October 11, 2007, 9:00 am PDT

Been there......done that, Mother

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You have got to be kidding . I  don't see where you resolved anything. If she was clean and sober,what ever happened to the "12 Steps" (make ammends). You gave her the stage to promote her own childish ways. At 19 she still is a child. Instead you should have taken her backstage and gave her a kick in the ass.Mom i feel did the best she could to protect her from the dark shadows of the lime light of being famous. Maybe when she falls down like all the rest of the ( my farts don't stink)little girls out there we have thrown down our thoarts (Paris,Brittnay,etc)who is she going to turn to?

I did not see this show, but my 18 y/o daughter did and so I identified with it that she wrote a message to Megan on her MySpace page.  I just so happened to read my daughters message to Megan and it really hurt, as it was all lies.

 

You see, my daughter is just like Megan in so many ways.  She is a gifted singer/songwriter who started writing music on acoustic guitar at age 13.  We were all amazed at her talent. Of course, I was proud, I am her mother, but then others in the area in the local music scene told me that she really was good....that she had "it"......the looks, the sound, the stage presence, etc.  She said this is what she wanted to do with her life and she became so popular in the area with her performances, and so Mom got behind her to support and help, like most all of us Mom's and Dad's do.  (could have been a talented atheletic son and Dad would have been there too...aren't we supposed to be proud and as supportive as we can?)

 

Anyway, I too am a single mother.  I live on very modest income and because of health issues haven't been able to work in years.  I did however, receive some money, a settlement from a car accident in which I was hurt badly.  I had planned to use that money towards my own retirement funds, because I don't have any retirement funds.  But, instead, I ended up investing that money in my daughters "career".  She needed clothes and equipment and supplies, hair, makeup, publicity photos, local recording sessions for demos,  money to manufacture those demos and protection of copyrights filed with Library of Congress.......lawyer, accountant, and the list goes on and on and on.   It cost thousands.  She wanted this and everyone encouraged her to go for it.  Was I wrong to invest my money in her?  Had she wanted to be a doctor it would have gone for medical school/training.  But, this was her talent and chosen field.  I invest and help her out and I would probably get my investment back down the road.....its win/win.....right?  Wrong.

 

She was tremendously lucky that a big producer from London, just so happened to be at one of her performances and liked what he saw.  He offered to have her come to London and work with a team of professional songwriters to firm up her songwriting capabilities and we had to pay for that initial trip.  I did all that I could to raise the money to get her there.  We printed flyers and Tshirts and had them on display at school, in local businesses and friends helping to raise the money with demos and Tshirts for donation towards the trip.  My daughter even contributed a $2,000 savings bond from her grandmother, as her part towards the financing.  All in all, it cost us about $9,000 to go over there.  But, the trip was a huge success and she was offered a recording contract that was very favorably written for her.  I ended up giving the last of my money, the donations and her contribution to get her there and when we came home we were broke!!  I had become her manager.....not because I wanted to do that but out of necessity.  Someone had to do it and I was spending all the money on her so it was only logical that I fill the position.  At least I could get the tax advantage for all the money that was going out of the window for this enterprise.  Makes sense to me.

 

But things began to change.  My daughter for whatever reason delayed signing the contract.  And, that is ok, he left the door open to her.  But, she also quit HS in 11th grade and began using drugs as well.  She got in with the wrong crowd, and also had developed this huge ego with a sense of entitlement to go with it.  It seems the more I did for her the less she appreciated it and the more demanding she became until I felt I was living with an intimidating bully!!  The constant drama and histrionics were continuous and began to wear me out.  She got with the wrong boy and began having sex.  This boy was not a good choice for her and she took on his "dark" ways and attitudes and really began to change.  He wasn't interested in music, which she loved, and she began to let her passion fall by the way to be with him and do the things that interested him.

 

She had played a few gigs in town that paid her $150 for 4 hr gig and allowed her to sell her demo, Tshirt and take tips.  I had told her that the way the business worked that the $150 had to go into the business account, but that she could have the tip money.  Any other manager would have done it the exact same way.  She got paid out of the business, which had to turn a profit somewhere.  She lacked for nothing.  All the clothes, hairstyles, makeup, spending money, etc was provided by the business.  But then she starts taking the attitude that I took her money!!!  Wait one minute.  I spent all my money and provided all her needs.  I didn't have an endless resource of my own.  There was a limit and one day it all ran out.

 

She still hasn't signed the contract, which is ok if she has changed her mind.  She can be anything she wants in life and I will still back her in her choice (althought not financially since I'm depleted there).  But she has continued with the drugs and the dramas has still not gotten a HS diploma or GED and not applied for school.  She takes menial jobs ringing up groceries for a few months and then quits.

 

The thing that hurts me the most is the fact that she has told everyone that I am also a wicked stage mom.  I am not.  I supported and put my only funds to help her because she wanted it.  I did open the business......small management business for her only, because she needed that and we couldn't afford to get anyone else at the time.  I did feel responsible to watch after her decisions and talk with the producers, etc, because the music industry is absolutely one of the most "cut throat" businesses there is.  The contracts need specialized entertainment attorneys to read them or out of your excitement and naivete a kid or adult for that matter can get royally screwed by this industry.  And there are drugs and sexual exploitation of these kids within the industry.......what loving mother would toss her young gullible kid into shark infested waters like that alone?   Would Joe Simpson?   Would Sharon Osborne?  I think not.  And, these 2 parents are also managers to their kids.......even still, and Sharon for Ozzy.  There is nothing wrong with keeping things in the family if everyone can keep a level head and not fall into ugly accusatory emotions and not be mature about the "business".......and everyone in that business will tell you thats what it is about.........$$$$.  Nothing more.  We were told that straight out.

 

My daughter now says that I caused her to quit school, led her to take drugs, ruined her chances with her music, took her $2000 savings bond that she contributed to the trip, and also took and spent all the money she made on the few local gigs......which were maybe half dozen or so.  Someone please tell me where do this selfish, unappreciative, bratty people get off? 

 

Sure, I'm not a perfect mother, just like every other mother out there.  But, I did the best I could, and did it alone with no help.  I made the best decisions I knew how and what I didn't know about I tried to get myself educated about......read up and learned about it, so I knew what we were dealing with.  I never aspired to be a "stage mom" or a manager.  I only wanted to be a mother, from the time I was a child.  And, how do these people......these kids of ours get off on blaming us for every little thing that doesn't go their way and hate us forever?   Since when were they PERFECT kids?  Some of them have done horribly hurtful things towards their parents.......mean and hateful things and they somehow feel entitled to do that.  Excuse me???

 

Dr. Phil I think you should do this show over again and have a more balanced panel on.  Bring some other young artists and parents in.  Bring in Jessica and Ashley Simpson and their father, Joe.  Have Sharon Osborne and Kelly on and then bring in a music label and get a more balanced show going.  And these kids.......they got no clue the worry and investment and high hopes and dreams their parents hold for them and their future.  No mother or father wants to see their kids eaten alive by sharks with big teeth in an industry with no morals or ethics.  Bring Toni Braxton on and ask her what happened with her music and contracts.  That would be more balanced.

 

I think that Megan and my daughter and many others like them owe a huge apology to their parents.  How dare they blame and accuse the ones that love and provide for them and give their ALL for them to have a good and fulfilled life.   Tracy, I applaud you hon.  I know exactly what you are going through and I do agree that the other woman "friend" should be criminally charged for leading your daughter into drugs and sex.  You took responsibility for Megan when you set the boundaries.  This woman admitted the girl is NOT her responsibility, but I think the law says differently of any adult that allows a minor to use in their presence and does nothing to stop it......actually condones it.

 

Ok, I said my piece.  In a way I am very glad that my daughter didn't sign that contract.  In her state of mind and with her current behavior, I might have been watching her self destruct in public the same way Lynne Spears is observing Brittney, and can do nothing to help her.

 

Lyn G.

 
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October 11, 2007, 3:50 pm PDT

This is exactly what TRACY did!!

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I did not see this show, but my 18 y/o daughter did and so I identified with it that she wrote a message to Megan on her MySpace page.  I just so happened to read my daughters message to Megan and it really hurt, as it was all lies.

 

You see, my daughter is just like Megan in so many ways.  She is a gifted singer/songwriter who started writing music on acoustic guitar at age 13.  We were all amazed at her talent. Of course, I was proud, I am her mother, but then others in the area in the local music scene told me that she really was good....that she had "it"......the looks, the sound, the stage presence, etc.  She said this is what she wanted to do with her life and she became so popular in the area with her performances, and so Mom got behind her to support and help, like most all of us Mom's and Dad's do.  (could have been a talented atheletic son and Dad would have been there too...aren't we supposed to be proud and as supportive as we can?)

 

Anyway, I too am a single mother.  I live on very modest income and because of health issues haven't been able to work in years.  I did however, receive some money, a settlement from a car accident in which I was hurt badly.  I had planned to use that money towards my own retirement funds, because I don't have any retirement funds.  But, instead, I ended up investing that money in my daughters "career".  She needed clothes and equipment and supplies, hair, makeup, publicity photos, local recording sessions for demos,  money to manufacture those demos and protection of copyrights filed with Library of Congress.......lawyer, accountant, and the list goes on and on and on.   It cost thousands.  She wanted this and everyone encouraged her to go for it.  Was I wrong to invest my money in her?  Had she wanted to be a doctor it would have gone for medical school/training.  But, this was her talent and chosen field.  I invest and help her out and I would probably get my investment back down the road.....its win/win.....right?  Wrong.

 

She was tremendously lucky that a big producer from London, just so happened to be at one of her performances and liked what he saw.  He offered to have her come to London and work with a team of professional songwriters to firm up her songwriting capabilities and we had to pay for that initial trip.  I did all that I could to raise the money to get her there.  We printed flyers and Tshirts and had them on display at school, in local businesses and friends helping to raise the money with demos and Tshirts for donation towards the trip.  My daughter even contributed a $2,000 savings bond from her grandmother, as her part towards the financing.  All in all, it cost us about $9,000 to go over there.  But, the trip was a huge success and she was offered a recording contract that was very favorably written for her.  I ended up giving the last of my money, the donations and her contribution to get her there and when we came home we were broke!!  I had become her manager.....not because I wanted to do that but out of necessity.  Someone had to do it and I was spending all the money on her so it was only logical that I fill the position.  At least I could get the tax advantage for all the money that was going out of the window for this enterprise.  Makes sense to me.

 

But things began to change.  My daughter for whatever reason delayed signing the contract.  And, that is ok, he left the door open to her.  But, she also quit HS in 11th grade and began using drugs as well.  She got in with the wrong crowd, and also had developed this huge ego with a sense of entitlement to go with it.  It seems the more I did for her the less she appreciated it and the more demanding she became until I felt I was living with an intimidating bully!!  The constant drama and histrionics were continuous and began to wear me out.  She got with the wrong boy and began having sex.  This boy was not a good choice for her and she took on his "dark" ways and attitudes and really began to change.  He wasn't interested in music, which she loved, and she began to let her passion fall by the way to be with him and do the things that interested him.

 

She had played a few gigs in town that paid her $150 for 4 hr gig and allowed her to sell her demo, Tshirt and take tips.  I had told her that the way the business worked that the $150 had to go into the business account, but that she could have the tip money.  Any other manager would have done it the exact same way.  She got paid out of the business, which had to turn a profit somewhere.  She lacked for nothing.  All the clothes, hairstyles, makeup, spending money, etc was provided by the business.  But then she starts taking the attitude that I took her money!!!  Wait one minute.  I spent all my money and provided all her needs.  I didn't have an endless resource of my own.  There was a limit and one day it all ran out.

 

She still hasn't signed the contract, which is ok if she has changed her mind.  She can be anything she wants in life and I will still back her in her choice (althought not financially since I'm depleted there).  But she has continued with the drugs and the dramas has still not gotten a HS diploma or GED and not applied for school.  She takes menial jobs ringing up groceries for a few months and then quits.

 

The thing that hurts me the most is the fact that she has told everyone that I am also a wicked stage mom.  I am not.  I supported and put my only funds to help her because she wanted it.  I did open the business......small management business for her only, because she needed that and we couldn't afford to get anyone else at the time.  I did feel responsible to watch after her decisions and talk with the producers, etc, because the music industry is absolutely one of the most "cut throat" businesses there is.  The contracts need specialized entertainment attorneys to read them or out of your excitement and naivete a kid or adult for that matter can get royally screwed by this industry.  And there are drugs and sexual exploitation of these kids within the industry.......what loving mother would toss her young gullible kid into shark infested waters like that alone?   Would Joe Simpson?   Would Sharon Osborne?  I think not.  And, these 2 parents are also managers to their kids.......even still, and Sharon for Ozzy.  There is nothing wrong with keeping things in the family if everyone can keep a level head and not fall into ugly accusatory emotions and not be mature about the "business".......and everyone in that business will tell you thats what it is about.........$$$$.  Nothing more.  We were told that straight out.

 

My daughter now says that I caused her to quit school, led her to take drugs, ruined her chances with her music, took her $2000 savings bond that she contributed to the trip, and also took and spent all the money she made on the few local gigs......which were maybe half dozen or so.  Someone please tell me where do this selfish, unappreciative, bratty people get off? 

 

Sure, I'm not a perfect mother, just like every other mother out there.  But, I did the best I could, and did it alone with no help.  I made the best decisions I knew how and what I didn't know about I tried to get myself educated about......read up and learned about it, so I knew what we were dealing with.  I never aspired to be a "stage mom" or a manager.  I only wanted to be a mother, from the time I was a child.  And, how do these people......these kids of ours get off on blaming us for every little thing that doesn't go their way and hate us forever?   Since when were they PERFECT kids?  Some of them have done horribly hurtful things towards their parents.......mean and hateful things and they somehow feel entitled to do that.  Excuse me???

 

Dr. Phil I think you should do this show over again and have a more balanced panel on.  Bring some other young artists and parents in.  Bring in Jessica and Ashley Simpson and their father, Joe.  Have Sharon Osborne and Kelly on and then bring in a music label and get a more balanced show going.  And these kids.......they got no clue the worry and investment and high hopes and dreams their parents hold for them and their future.  No mother or father wants to see their kids eaten alive by sharks with big teeth in an industry with no morals or ethics.  Bring Toni Braxton on and ask her what happened with her music and contracts.  That would be more balanced.

 

I think that Megan and my daughter and many others like them owe a huge apology to their parents.  How dare they blame and accuse the ones that love and provide for them and give their ALL for them to have a good and fulfilled life.   Tracy, I applaud you hon.  I know exactly what you are going through and I do agree that the other woman "friend" should be criminally charged for leading your daughter into drugs and sex.  You took responsibility for Megan when you set the boundaries.  This woman admitted the girl is NOT her responsibility, but I think the law says differently of any adult that allows a minor to use in their presence and does nothing to stop it......actually condones it.

 

Ok, I said my piece.  In a way I am very glad that my daughter didn't sign that contract.  In her state of mind and with her current behavior, I might have been watching her self destruct in public the same way Lynne Spears is observing Brittney, and can do nothing to help her.

 

Lyn G.

Lyn,

I feel for you and I understand.  I believe Megan and your daughter will come around as they mature.  Tracy and I are talking about starting a MYSPACE for information about protecting  your child....it is the same URL as my name here.   Good Luck to you!

 
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October 12, 2007, 9:16 am PDT

Hi mgolf4!!

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I hope you don't mind me venting here.  I'm trying hard to keep from going ballistic until my daughter moves out.

 

I just got a call from my son and he was mad at his sister and her new husband for being unappreciative and selfish.  My new son-in-law told my son that the reason they were staying at a neighbors until they move into their house this weekend was because they can't take it any more (living at my house).  Initially, they were babysitting while the neighbor was out of town.

 

Here's the unbelievable reason...

 

They are tired of feeling like they need to mow the lawn and clean the house.  Imagine that!!!  Funny thing is, I have never asked him to mow the lawn.  After long bouts of my daughter not contributing to cleaning the common areas I ask for her help. My son reminded my son-in-law that they were saving a lot of money on rent and utilities and that mowing the lawn and helping clean the house was the least they could do. 

 

It's a shame I have to ask for help.  It's like being in an abusive relationship.  I get to where Ive had enough, get upset and have to ask for help, then my daughter contributes to cooking and cleaning for a little while and then it's back to the bare minimum (her room and bedroom only).  I get upset again and she promises to do better, does for a short while and back to square one.

 

Just a few years ago my husband was commuting out of town and rented a room from my cousin for 7 months.  I visited him several times and while I was there I cooked, cleaned, and did more than my fair share.  My cousin was extremely grateful, appreciated the extra cash, and to this day says that it was a very positive experience and misses us very much.  I believe in treating others the way you would want to be treated and expected the same from my own daughter.

 

Trust me; I would have never tolerated this behavior if it hadn't been for my loving, wonderful grandchild and wanting to provide a stable, safe, and loving environment for him.  My husband and I thought we were doing the right thing by allowing them to live with us for a few months so they could save money to buy a house.  Its sad that I feel weve been taken advantage of.

 

Please pray she grows up soon!  I dont know how much longer I can keep from going off on my daughter and ruining our relationship for ever.

You and I have to have coffee together!!  I wrote earlier and told you that my son and I lived with my mom until I turned 25 .  I told you that I didn't appreciate her until I got out into the world.  In fact the other night my mom and I had a movie night together and I thanked her again just in case I had not told her that.  Well, that child is now 26.  He and his wife lived with us after the birth of their 2nd baby.  They had a lot of medical bills because the baby was a preemie.  After 6 weeks they could not wait to move out either.  I showed them the door!  They found a place within a week or 2.  Let them move out.  I still maintain that she will come to appreciate you only when she has had a chance to be on her own.  I don't know about you and your daughter (and I don't have any daughters) but, my mother and I were too much alike.  It would have been fine if we were both docile and alike but, we were both stubborn and alike!!  Bad combination.  Any way she if my best friend now.  I will pray for you and your family that it happens sooner than later!!

 

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October 12, 2007, 12:21 pm PDT

love versus happiness

 Jena, I think you are right on about your mother.  If she is not making you happy, you can limit your contact with her.  I feel it is sick to sacrifice your happiness for the love of your mother.  I am a 60 year old, mother of three children aged 31, 18 and 15.  I had very limited contact with my two parents until they died and I am not at all sorry about it.  I did reconcile with my mother  before she died but I did not with my father.  I feel fine about both relationships.  Right now my 31 year old daughter is estranged from me and I feel that is okay if it makes her feel happy.  I get along well with my younger two but I feel my parenting skills were better with them.  My 31 year old is a singer also and has performed opera and done some acting.  She was extremely talented as a child like you.  She loves to perform in front of people.  My younger two are not like that.
 

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October 12, 2007, 4:21 pm PDT

Moms vs. Kids

I agree with most of the posters here when they say the kids are being disrespectful and also that this was a wasted hour. Nothing positive came of this show at all. The bigger picture was never elaborated on only hatefulness and resentfulness.

 

So many parents overlook their kids' behaviors and wonder when it is all said and done why they have such ungrateful brats. I think the Nanny shows prove once and for all that it is not the kids it is the parents who let the kids run all over them that is the problem. They think they are being cool or they just don't want to deal with a tantrum instead of facing issues head on and early on.

 

My kids never once said they hated me (no derogatory words were spoken). We always worked out issues the best that we could. It just never seemed that hard. I also never let my son and daughter fight with each other. I always encouraged them to figure out what the problem was and to come up with a reasonable and fair solution. My kids grew up very well rounded and my husband and I could not be prouder.

 

The moral to what I am saying is to raise your kids in a loving and kind way. It pays off for everyone. It's just not that hard.

 
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October 12, 2007, 6:53 pm PDT

10/03 Mama Drama

At least you guys don't have to deal with a so called "mom", who is lying to her girls about one man (her ex husband) being the horrible, dead beat dad of these girls... when in fact, her current husband is the father of her youngest kid, and the child older than her by 18 months is my husbands (the dead beat dad) best friends kid that has planted it and made him pay for her.  Funny thing, my husband is on disability...which means EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU WHO IS WORKING JUST PAID THIS WOMAN FOR THESE TWO GIRLS TO THE TUNE OF $30,000 IN THE PAST 18 MONTHS , now how does them apples sound? 

This is modern day robbery, in which a woman always can get away with...  Who cares who the father is, plant it on your husband and get away with it.  It truly sucks...Makes me so mad it's not even funny, and when you try to get any type of help from people...you are told "so sorry for your dilemma Mr. Jeffs, however, you have no rights as a "father", as a MAN, or as anything, shut up and pay the price for your ex's behavior. 

 

Talk about sad situation...  How would you feel as a child to find out "mommy dearest" has lied about who YOUR DAD is, and charged him for child support, ROBBED HIM, LIED TO HER COP FRIENDS about him, HARRASSED him...had cops and DEA watching him ALL BECAUSE OF HER WORD..................  And we are the bad guys because we don't want to lie about this?

 

Lynda in UT

 

 

 
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October 12, 2007, 10:29 pm PDT

Movie Night

My mother, sister and I get together once a week for "movie night."  It has really helped us to get close. 

You pick the night- no stress if you can't do it one week.  We have rules for movie night.  There is no controvesial conversation, no kids, no phones. You have to have chips (or something salty), twizzlers and soda.  And sorry but, the twizzlers are NOT negotiable.  It is not movie night without them.  Who knows- maybe a chick flick with mom is just what the Dr. Phil ordered!!

 

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