Topic : 01/25 Secrets in the Suburbs

You have a physical attraction to both males and females, so were you born homosexual or heterosexual, since you surely cannot be born bisexual? You say choose, but the Homosexual agenda is that it is not a choice, because they were born that way. They support their lifestyle, with illogical reasoning just like swingers do. I am sorry, but it is all perverted behavior. Before you get offended, look up the word perversion.

Swinging and child sexual abuse, wow, it seems so far apart. Is it? When children are abused and exposed to sexual deviants, they grow up and how. Most prostitutes and women in the sex industry were molested as children. You create an unhealthy environment around sex and you create sexually unhealthy children. Swingers, as evidenced here, change the line and re-write their definitions of things like adultery to try to make it okay. Child abusers re-write their definitions and change the line of what is sexually okay for them to do. Some say 16, others 15, others 14, others, 13, others 12, others 11, others 10 and some go as low as 2. Amazing the child abusers that abuse 15 year old's take a moral high ground against those who sexually abuse 2 years old.

It is funny, if a man acts in a bisexual way, he is considered straight out gay, but with women they try to say oh I am bisexual. People always try to fit definitions into their little box. Honestly, ask God what he has to say about it. He did leave us a great book. None of us are perfect, but some don't even try.

I've lived in So. Cali for over 30 years and no the scene very well. I know what happens when you open the door and it gets wider and wider. One question? Do you know why you have a physical attraction to females and how your mother and father fit into that development.? Just so you know, information about swinging is found in Sex magazines and in that section, not in the Health and Family section.

I respect your passion about child abuse and child pornography. Did you watch the movie " American Beauty"? They tried to make the pedophile father normal. Truth is, most pedophiles live normal lives, until you look deeper.

Dear will6012

Thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding God's Law. I have learned a great deal from you and understand why you would propose and support a constitutional amendment banning same sex marriage. As you said "in the eyes of God marriage is based between a man a woman." I try to share that knowledge with as many people as I can. When someone tries to defend the homosexual lifestyle, for example, I simply remind them that Leviticus 18:22 clearly states it to be an abomination... End of debate.

I do need some advice from you, however, regarding some other elements of God's Laws and how to follow them.

1. Leviticus 25:44 states that I may possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighboring nations. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can't I own Canadians?

2. I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?

3. I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of menstrual uncleanness - Lev.15: 19-24. The problem is how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense.

4. When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odor for the Lord - Lev.1:9. The problem is, my neighbors. They claim the odor is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them?

5. I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2. clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself, or should I ask the police to do it?

6. A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an abomination - Lev. 11:10, it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don't agree. Can you settle this? Are there 'degrees' of abomination?

7. Lev.21:20 states that I may ! not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle- room here? 

8. Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev. 19:27. How should they die?

9. I know from Lev. 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves?

10. My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev.19:19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them? Lev.24:10-16. Couldn't we just burn them to death at a private family affair, like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14)

I know you have studied these things extensively and thus enjoy considerable expertise in such matters, so I am confident you can help.

Thank you again for reminding us that God's word is eternal and unchanging.

You expect any one to believe that there are no drugs and alcohol. Have you been to most swing parties in Cali or NY? No. Or, do you think that if you don't do drugs or alcohol at your party, you have a moral high ground against does consenting adult deviants that do.

No, you don't get it. When I was a young student, yet smarter than you, I knew the definition of most vocabulary words, while other students failed, you. For you: Adultery is defined as voluntary sexual intercourse between a married person and one who is not his or her spouse. And yes, God did descend from on high to give me that authority in the form of his word, the Holy Bible. So, don't try to bring God into this picture, you left him out long ago, I will be sure to provide you any scriptures that you surely don't practice.

So, do you drive around in a refrigerator, that most of us call cars. That is not my opinion either, that is the definition.

Of course I would decline as I said we don't play with our kids and ..... swinging does NOT help any marriage that is trouble

It has been stated over and over on this board that if you are having a rocky time PLEASE DO NOT SWING

Go see a professional in marriage counseling

as far as 32 being OK, sure why not, I have been with a lady 21 years  younger (I was 54 at the time she was 33) than I am, she was pretty good too, not the best but pretty good. Her husband was with my wife and their age split was 18 years. They were not related to us, so we were fine with the deal

Dear will6012

Thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding God's Law. I have learned a great deal from you and understand why you would propose and support a constitutional amendment banning same sex marriage. As you said "in the eyes of God marriage is based between a man a woman." I try to share that knowledge with as many people as I can. When someone tries to defend the homosexual lifestyle, for example, I simply remind them that Leviticus 18:22 clearly states it to be an abomination... End of debate.

I do need some advice from you, however, regarding some other elements of God's Laws and how to follow them.

1. Leviticus 25:44 states that I may possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighboring nations. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can't I own Canadians?

2. I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?

3. I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of menstrual uncleanness - Lev.15: 19-24. The problem is how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense.

4. When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odor for the Lord - Lev.1:9. The problem is, my neighbors. They claim the odor is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them?

5. I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2. clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself, or should I ask the police to do it?

6. A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an abomination - Lev. 11:10, it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don't agree. Can you settle this? Are there 'degrees' of abomination?

7. Lev.21:20 states that I may ! not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle- room here? 

8. Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev. 19:27. How should they die?

9. I know from Lev. 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves?

10. My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev.19:19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them? Lev.24:10-16. Couldn't we just burn them to death at a private family affair, like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14)

I know you have studied these things extensively and thus enjoy considerable expertise in such matters, so I am confident you can help.

Thank you again for reminding us that God's word is eternal and unchanging.

No matter how intelligent you think you are, clearly you need some more work on your reading comprehension. I said that any alcohol is BYO, not that there was none.

Here's a dictionary definition for you:  "adultery noun:   extramarital sex that willfully and maliciously interferes with marriage relations"

Clearly doesn't apply to swinging - the sex in swinging is not extramarital.

And oddly, no bible I've ever read - and yeah, I've read a lot of them, since I was in fact a religion major in college, and worked in church lay ministry for a dozen years - starts off with "This book expressly gives will6012 authority to speak for Me, the Lord thy God." Must be I missed that page, I guess.

How hypocritical you are. Do you follow every single commandment in your bible? Do you eat shellfish? Do you leave sacrifices to the priests in the temples? If your brother dies childless, do you plan to impregnate his widow and thus give your deceased brother a heir? Do you tithe? Or do you just choose to follow those Biblical ideas that promote your narrowminded, bigoted point of view as the sex police?

If you think your car is a refrigerator, btw, although I certainly can't claim the vast intelligence you think you display here, I'd suggest that you either a. get the heater fixed, or b. seek help for those delusions.  Good luck to you, whichever way you go with that.

Why could a person not be born bisexual?  That is a question, not sarcasm.  As far as sexuality, I use the word "choice" in regard to myself.  As for anyone else, not my place to judge.  And for the record, I have no problem with homosexuality.  And I am not offended by your statement in regard to this, just merely perplexed.  I cannot say that I have encountered anyone with views quiet like yours before, therefore they do intrigue me even if they are not views in which I share or agree upon. 

I do believe you should do more research in regard to the thing with ages and limitations and swinging.  You seem to be quiet misinformed and to have mistaking it with something that associates with children when that is not the case.  There are often times in which people or couples state a preference in age of the people in which they would like to meet.  For myself, that age range would normally be 50+ but no one below the age of 30 simply because we have little in common with people in there 20s and that is not sexually speaking either.  As for our children, they are just that, children.  Many adult aspects of our lives, including anything sexually speaking, is not something we share with out children. 

I don't recall trying to rewrite an definitions.  I know that Webster's definition of adultery would fit swingers.  I, myself, do not have a problem with that.  My husband and I both are aware of what the other does and are fine with it and it causes absolutely no negative effect on our relationship.

I must, respectfully, disagree with your statement in regard to bisexual men.  I am sure there are people in which would see it the same as you but I, as do several people I know, see them as they are, bisexual.    As for the question in regard to my sexuality, I honestly have never analysized it to see why but I can say that it is something I noticed at a very young ago.  As for my parents, they are very religious people that do not agree with swinging but do not criticise either.  They merely state their view on it and I respect that as do they respect my view.  We agree to disagree without any arguement. 

I can't say that I have see the movie you referenced.  Afraid about the only movies I get a chance to see around the animated kind I watch with my kids.  Pedophiles, in my book, rank with serial killers.  They should have an island somewhere to drop them and leave them to fend for themselves.

I must ask again, as you didn't answer my question before, why is this a subject in which you are so passionate about?  It appears to be more than just a religious based passion.  It seems as though your life has been directly affected by this subject but that you are dodging around as to how.

First off, people are born homogeneous, not homosexual or bisexual, and all are born heterosexual. Check your sex organs, unless there is a defect. There is no homosexual or bisexual gene.  Some people are sadomasochist, pedophiles, and choose bestiality, but they were not born that way.

I know that all swingers are not pedophiles or incestuous, and I never said such a thing. My point was that if they are not, they are drawing a line, and if they campaign against child pornography they are only trying to find a right to fight amidst their wrong lifestyle. If you have children and you swing, even if you don't teach them directly, you are teaching them unless you are a hypocrite. How can teach your child to have monogamous relationships with their boy/girl friend, when you cannot have it with your spouse.

Answer to your question. Any morally conscious person should have a passion against child abuse. I  never was abuse, if I were, i might be seeking the lifestyle of swinging or homosexuality. I have spoke to many swingers, homosexuals, prostitutes, strippers, and people in the sex industry, and it is rare that I find one who was not abused as a child. I am also passionate about talking to drug abusers, and have been able to talk people out of all of the above, and direct them to find Christ. People are not born deviants, they are turned into deviants by the paths they choose and those that cross them. I am also a supporter of Cancer and Diabetic research, but have never had neither.

I am amazed since Swingers only account for less than 2 percent of the population, you would have to live in a bubble of just swingers to find people that only share your views. Try going to a Christian, Muslim, or Jewish Church or Synagogue and you might find that God has even stronger views than I do. So strong, that he sent his only begotten Son to die for us, so that we might live and have everlasting life. What a Love. Could you give up swinging, so your children could have a chance. You might be creating a boundary for sex, that allows a pedophile to get close. For example, I taught all my nieces, that any boy who picks them up, must pick them up at the door and greet their father, and he is given their curfew time. No boy gets to honk and have them run out to the car.

Why does your flesh yearn and desire the attention, the lust, and coveting of your neighbors? Why is your flesh not happy with the sole affection of your spouse? Why must you have another man inside of you, when sex with your husband produced your wonderful children.? Are you happy with being married to your spouse or do you yearn for polygamy? Is polygamy not sufficient, because you just want lots of people to take your sex? Prostitutes do this and so do whores, so were you once either one of these or were you a sexually abused child? Can you not dodge these questions?

I asked the question, Do you think that if you do not do drugs or alcohol at your party, you have a moral high ground over those consenting deviant adults that do? That is a question.

I must teach the foolish such basic things.

Merriam Webster dictionary:

1. extramarital: of or relating to sexual intercourse by a married person with some one other than his or her spouse.

Adultery: voluntary sexual intercourse between a married person and one who is not his or her spouse.

This is swinging, young uneducated deviant, but you can be saved.

John 3: 5 Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water, and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.

John 3: 18 He that believeth on him(Jesus) is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the Name of the only begotten Son of God.

The state of Michigan, Korea, Taiwan, and other states and countries follow the teachings of Leviticus.

Leviticus 20:10 AND THE MAN THAT COMMITTED ADULTERY WITH ANOTHER MAN'S WIFE, EVEN HE THAT COMMITTETH ADULTERY WITH HIS NEIGHBORS WIFE, THE ADULTERER AND THE ADULTERESS SHALL SURELY BE PUT TO DEATH.

Make sure you know what state you are in, before you ignore the law. In other states, you will just have to hope that God was joking. NOT!!!

Yes, you missed the page. Page 1451 in the King James Version

Matthew 28:18-20 And Jesus spake saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.

19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: 20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world.

You were a religion major in college. First mistake. Secular. You worked in church lay ministry, so you either fail from grace or never was baptized with water and the Holy Spirit. It is obvious however, that you never accepted Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior for all Eternity, or you would not make such a weak attempt when you asked if I follow every single commandment in my Bible. You should know, from your studies Bible is always capitalized.

Have I sinned yes. Will I sin tomorrow. Yes. But, I have a Savior and he died for my sins, and I can ask him for forgiveness, but when I first became saved, All things were passed away and all things became anew. It is actually you have choose to follow Biblical ideas that promote your narrow minded bigoted point of view, which is why you have fallen away. God did not conform to your definition.

I will pray for you, because although you read the Bible without understanding, you were seeking for a reason. You can not escape from God. Stop running. By the way, since you referred to me as the Sex police, you must be referring to my Biblical views on homosexuality, incest, adultery, prostitution, and pedophilia. I am also against bestiality, are you?

In an earlier post you wrote " No the biggest age split we have ever had sex with was I think 7 years. Now you say the age split was 18. Your response was to having sex with an incest couple. I have no problem with an 18 year split, but as far as you know they could have been an incest couple.

Your rule is that they can't be less than 31 years old and can not be related to you. Do you check birth certificates and DNA? You have your rules and the rest of the world has there's and God has his, which you are confused by, you need help.

Yes, you do need to see a marriage counselor, because you said that swinging improved your marriage, so there had to be something left to be desired. Unfulfilled and the inability to please. They do have penis enhancements these days or you could try Viagra or maybe put on a wig so your wife thinks that you are a woman.