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Topic : 01/25 Secrets in the Suburbs

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How well do you think you know your neighbors, your friends and even your child's teacher? It is estimated that four to eight million people in North America are swinging in the suburbs -- mostly middle-class folks from all walks of life. Dr. Phil gives you a closer look at who these couples are who engage in sex with other twosomes. First up, Nita and Walter have been swinging for the last 12 years. They say they are happy in the lifestyle, so why does it cause tension in their relationship? Then, Brent says he has a strong yearning for he and his wife, Renee, to participate in a threesome. Renee says the idea disgusts her, but worries that if she refuses to join in, Brent will leave her. They fight constantly, often dragging their 17-year-old son into the middle of their chaos. Brent says he thinks about having threesomes every other day, but says that his desire is normal. What does Dr. Phil think? And, Dr. Phil viewers weigh in and share their thoughts about the swinging lifestyle. Join the discussion.

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January 25, 2008, 1:29 pm PST

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 I have been with the same man for 41 years,evidently our needs are being met with each other.I don't condem this lifestyle if that is what each party wants but I can't say I understand it.
 
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January 25, 2008, 1:29 pm PST

01/25 Secrets in the Suburbs

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i caught the tale end of the show today on "lifestyles". My husband and I tried it for a while but I am just not comfortable with what goes on.  I was brought up to believe in love and marriage and intimacy with ONE person and found that I could not get over my insecurities.  My husband promised if  we tried it and I didn't like it,,,he would not bring up the subject again.  But, he spends hours on the computer on the adult web site.  This bothers me but I am not sure what I can do about it.  He is 63 and more "experienced" and open minded about sex than I am.  I will not compromise my feelings but that has meant no intimacy...which is difficult for me cause I am a huggy, kissy, kind of person and I miss being cuddled.  I am so conflicted at times, I lose sleep wondering what to do.  I pray that our marriage will survive, but it takes 2 and right now I feel like a singe/married person.  After 9 years, I should feel better about our relationship, not  so unsure.         
You might want to consider taking away his Viagara.
 
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January 25, 2008, 1:31 pm PST

What I see

I am really very, very sorry for all the people that swing or are attracted to swinging.  I am not passing any kind of judgement on them because I don't believe that any of us has the right to judge any other.  I am just very sorry for anyone in ANY kind of lifestyle that so focuses on the physical.  While there is no doubt that physical things can be pleasurable, they are the basest of things that mankind was created for.  We are actually spiritual beings having a physical experience.  As long as we cling so very tightly to the physical side of our natures we will never understand or even begin to comprehend the true all-encompassing pleasures of truly spiritual lives.  No, such people won't go to hell!   I don't believe that hell has a geography.  I believe it is a state of being -  remoteness from God.  In reality that means that those who are far from their spiritual selves are already in hell and for that I feel pain for them.  Of course they don't understand that and feel that I am the one who is deluded.  I know and understand that.  That is their prerogative of course.  But in those still moments when their minds wander, they do know that something is wrong.  They do know that their lifestyle has not really brought them all the joy and freedom that they claim it has. They even realize that they have problems that relate to it but are too stubborn to admit that even to themselves.  A large part of that is undoubtedly because there are so many self-righteous people out there who ARE ready to judge them instead of paying attention to their own problems.  I want to console them and tell them not to fear.  The only thing that matters in this life is how well we love the rest of humanity and how we learn from our inevitable mistakes.   None of us is perfect.  Our only job is to try to move from our physical natures more and more into our spiritual natures.  Meditate on that.  Try it some and see if it makes sense.  See if that doesn't make you happier. 
 
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January 25, 2008, 1:32 pm PST

secrets in the burbs

 

It was awful to see the women so upset. She gave in to her husband head games. My husband and my self are both soft swingers. But it need to be something both parties agree too. I agree with the women that wrote the book about the south. We belong to a site that shares your profile with people all over the world. We have meet several people from the south. Mostly very wealthly people, Investment bankers, big business owners.  When I check the web site and times there are 2 million plus on this site at any given time. There are millions of swingers all over the world. We are both happy about the things we do. BUT our grown children are not aware of our life style. If one of us at any time one of us decides to quit this lifestyle. We both will no questions ask.

 

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January 25, 2008, 1:33 pm PST

open minded but not stupid

I feel that alot of people give in to the idea of swinging in order to "spice up" their sex lives. Although this may bring some variety into the bedroom; it also brings along feelings of insecurity, jealousy, and eventually resentment. I feel it is mearly a temporary fix, and a set up for disaster. Yes, it may be an extreme pleasure for one or even both parties envolved; for the time being. But keep in mind that there was a reason you needed to "spice things" up to begin with. Bringing someone else into the bedroom is not going to eliminate the underlying issue. We are all human and it is nieve to think that jealousy would never become an issue when it comes to sharing your partener; the one you claim to love; the one you feel so comfortable with that you think even a threesome would not damage. Be realistic and think about the consequences that would come after asking your partener to ingage with a third party in the one intimate thing you are supposed to share together.

 
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January 25, 2008, 1:33 pm PST

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I have to agree with the woman that was on the show because her husband wanted a 3-some. I have had to listen to my boyfriend talk about the same thing, and it disgusts me. I get angry if it is a joke. The only reason a man wants a 3-some is because he wants it to be okay for him to cheat. The woman you are with, especially if you are married to her, should be enough for you. Who's to say if she gave in just one time to make him happy, that he wouldn't start seeing women behind her back? It opens the door to being with other people. 

 

Bottom line.... if you love somebody, you wouldn't want anybody else.

 
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January 25, 2008, 1:33 pm PST

The Life Style

As a single female that is into this type of Life Style, I see nothing wrong with it. I have met some wonderful people along the way. What a lot of people don't understand is that sex doesn't always happen the first time you meet with someone. The club I frequent, most people are there to mingle and get to know other single males, females and other couples.  We are all adults about things and are very discreet about who we play with. I personally prefer to get to know someone before any playtime occurs. If I don't click with someone as friends first then we definately wouldn't click in the bedroom. The LS isn't for everyone, I tried it and personally feel more comfortable at a LS club than I do in a regular club where people are out for just a one night stand. This LS isn't for everyone, unless you have honestly tried to live this kind of LS,  why put others down for living their lives they are most comfortable with?  As far as our children being involved, they ARE NOT!! Our older children may know but we do not divulge the "dirty little details" to them. I know several people who's children have become active in the LS as adults by their own choice, not because they were forced into it.
 
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January 25, 2008, 1:34 pm PST

3soms

On todays show about swinning,

My first husband wanted this. I refused, he brought men to our house and tried to force me to do it. I refused. after months of this I decided to leave him. he took his head off with a shotgun that afternoon. 

If your spouce wants to swing then divorce them so they can.  If A man can't be satisfied with his wife then he doesn't deserve to have one, or to be married at all.

 

 
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January 25, 2008, 1:35 pm PST

Renee, PLEASE

Do not keep this man.  i went through this argument and after five years, he was cheating openly.  This same man argued for joining a nudist colony.  I DIVORCED HIM PRONTO. and, NEVER LOOKED BACK.   LET him GO. 

 
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January 25, 2008, 1:35 pm PST

Renee, PLEASE

Do not keep this man.  i went through this argument and after five years, he was cheating openly.  This same man argued for joining a nudist colony.  I DIVORCED HIM PRONTO. and, NEVER LOOKED BACK.   LET him GO. 

 
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