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Created on : Saturday, September 29, 2007, 09:23:47 am
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How well do you think you know your neighbors, your friends and even your child's teacher? It is estimated that four to eight million people in North America are swinging in the suburbs -- mostly middle-class folks from all walks of life. Dr. Phil gives you a closer look at who these couples are who engage in sex with other twosomes. First up, Nita and Walter have been swinging for the last 12 years. They say they are happy in the lifestyle, so why does it cause tension in their relationship? Then, Brent says he has a strong yearning for he and his wife, Renee, to participate in a threesome. Renee says the idea disgusts her, but worries that if she refuses to join in, Brent will leave her. They fight constantly, often dragging their 17-year-old son into the middle of their chaos. Brent says he thinks about having threesomes every other day, but says that his desire is normal. What does Dr. Phil think? And, Dr. Phil viewers weigh in and share their thoughts about the swinging lifestyle. Join the discussion.

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January 25, 2008, 1:38 pm PST

01/25 Secrets in the Suburbs

Quote From: maras12

not every one beleives in god  take a reality check  the world is not perfect stop pushing your belifs on every one else
You do not need to read the Bible or believe in God to know that this crap is WRONG!
 
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January 25, 2008, 1:39 pm PST

I don't think it's all swingers

My husband asked things like that, lbut he was more sadisitc,never knew he had thoughts like this until we were close to divorce, I did everything he wanted me to do, becuse i lvoed lhim and wanted to keep him, and stay not leave.

He got more and more weird, from asking me if he could put pins in my breasts, to dripping hot wax on my breasts! I'm diabetic, he had no worries for me for infection or pain! The more I cried, the more excited he would get. because lhe couldnt get his manhood to work since he had had a heart attack at 44 which he blamed me for !t not that there was a massive bad heart history in his family on heart problems! and the medications he had to take. The final blow was him flogging me with a leather whip, black and blluing my breasts, the more black and blue the better for him. Him and his fanasies too!

 
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January 25, 2008, 1:39 pm PST

Brent the husband is a jerk

I feel so sory for this mans wife, the blonde lady who doesnt want to have threesomes, She simply needs to dump this jerk and get another man who cares for her, How dare his man push his poor, unwilling wife into this, and allow his children to know about it. He needs his butt kicked, and he is sick, i agre with Dr Phil , if this is concenting sexual relationship, that is different. Brent is a selfish, sadistic, jerk.
 
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January 25, 2008, 1:41 pm PST

about the secrets

HI Dr. Phil

  How are u doing today? I am doing good. I just had a point of veiw about today show. I am a divorced man that has one kid. I also am a male and I have a story. I was married for years and was also an over teh road truck driver but now I am still a truck driver but I am home every night. I disagree to have sex with some else beside my wife at the time but on the other hand my ex love having sex with swingers. We talked about it but I told her I was just for her no to have sex with no one else. I found out about a year ago that she has had her profile on  aq swingers wb site ndont know the site but she has been doing that for the last 4 years behind my back. While I was on the road she had sex with guys and girls sometimes it was 2 guy or just a guy and a girl. It hurt most because she wasnt honest with me. I found out from my 4 yr old son that mommy had boys over while i was gone.  I think that is the wrong message for my son to get. I confronted her and she said it none of my business and if I wasnt up to it then so be it. I told I was going to file and she go a head so I did. My she says she wasnt cheating but What do u call it then. She said it was just filling her sexual desires so now I am single and love it. Now I get my son once a week and every other weekend so it hard but the judge told me I was in the wrong for being an over the road truck driver and the judge told me I was nuts because I was divorcing her for that reason he said it not cheatting it just having fun but the person that hurts the most is my son becasue he thinks daddy  did wrong so I dont know I thought I did what was right but no one see my side of the story. I think if my wife would have been open I could have worked on it to save my marriage but I was just trying  to make a living is that a crime to be an over the road truck driver? I was just wondering. I hope to hear back form u soon

                                                                              Thanks

                                                                                 B.T.

 
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January 25, 2008, 1:42 pm PST

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i strongly agree wiht not showing ur picture! If you were caregiver of my children and i found out i would be the first to find a new day care! I would not want my children affected by this because in my opinion i would want my children care for in a facility where they would take values and morals to heart!
Actually when I first read her post, there was a picture of her and her husband and I was a little surprised. Then I posted her a message and when I got back to the boards, the picture was gone.
 
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January 25, 2008, 1:46 pm PST

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I tuned in at the tail end of the program.  I did not understand the point with the lady Dr. Phil introduced as having written a book about the Bible belt.  What was that all about??  He did not explain if her book was something that promoted promiscuity or if it was simply a book about secret lives of people living in the south.  I took it from his quick and vague introduction that he does not approve of her book.  He opened up the introduction with, "...so what is your point?"  If he doesn't care for her "point" why did he even have her on the show---allowing her to promote the book?   If her book is trash, she shouldn't have even been on the show at all!
She said that people from the south tend to hide thier sexuality. A comment about there being a church on every corner. That the prim and proper lady may secretly have a stripper's pole in her basement. I am from VA, I didn't really identify with anything she said.
 
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January 25, 2008, 1:47 pm PST

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Forget about morals for a moment.
It just does not work.
It can for a time, but not long-term. Someone ALWAYS winds up getting hurt. They may not even admit it to their partner, but deep-seated resentments are not easy to correct. Forcing yourself to shut down jealousy, also, can result in shutting down other emotions, like love.
It is of my opinion, having known many people with this type of relationship, that it changes the fundamental being of relationship. It takes away the 'specialness' you have as a couple. The spark gets put out by this, and it's a very sad thing to watch, especially if the relationship was strong to begin with.
 
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January 25, 2008, 1:48 pm PST

Not prepaired

After listening to the show today, I believe your show was not prepaired enough to air this subject.  The "swing lifestyle" has been active for decades, and I believe you're number of swingers in the U.S. is on the low side.  A few thoughts come to light after viewing your show:  1.  Agreed, the swinging lifestyle is not for everyone, however, it is NOT the male that always make the pitch to swing as the show projected.  Far from the truth.  You would be supprised how many wives bring up the subject initially.  2.  The amount of married couples not in the lifestyle that cheat on their other half is through the roof compaired to those in the swinging lifestyle.  The math is easy to do as the stats are out there.  Simply put, those in the lifestyle have no reason to cheat as swinging eliminates any reason do to so.  Final thought:  "Swingers" are in all walks of live, not just the bottom of the barrel as suggested in a previous blog.  There are swingers in government, all classes(lower, middel, and upper), all ages, and just about every race.  It is apparent your goal was to just bring the negative out on this subject.  It's my opinion you were not subjective at all...you mind and goals were set before you even taped this show.  Disapointing at best.  On such a sensitive subject, all bases should have been covered here, which clearly was not.  It would be interesting to see the ratings from this show.  
 
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January 25, 2008, 1:48 pm PST

My experience

My husband and I started our swinging lifestyle about a year ago. 

 

I never in a million years thought we were going to become 'swingers'. I had fantasized about being with another girl a lot and--whenever I got a bit tipsy--I tended to flirt a little with other attractive girls. 

 

We (my hubby and i) are both young and attractive. We were, and still are, friends with another young, attractive, very liberal and openly sexual couple. I never let out my secret wish to be with her be known to them. One day , however, I had a bit too much wine, and started flirting with her. This is what got this started.

Let me tell you we have nothing but good times. My husband and I have a very strong marriage, and we adore each other very much. We have been together ever since college, and before this(swing), we had very little sexual experience with anyone else besides ourselves.  I feel that whenever we engage in our play with our friend couple, it gives us such a sexual passion that spills over to our personal relationship.

 

I certainly agree that successful swingers are those that are secure about themselves. We are very much sure about one another, and I honestly feel that the lifestyle has not hampered our relationship, but has enhanced it in a very exiting and enticing way! 

 

I would not consider the swinging couple on today's show as "successful swingers".

 

I don't regret trying this new experience. As a mater of fact, this has given me a great deal of self-esteem. I feel extremely sexy, beautiful and attractive.

 
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January 25, 2008, 1:48 pm PST

Three Somes

My goodness, I am so angry about this show and how people think that this is OK, as if we don't have enough to worry about with women in our society today.  Ones with low self esteem and weight issues young ladies and women killing themselves over not looking the "perfect way".  Now let's just take away any and all of the self respect that someone may have for themselves and ask them to have sex with other men while the husband sits back to watch her so called moves and expressions, and what about her feelings or how this will impact her especially when this is against everything that she believes in and what about the husband when this is all done where is he when his wife is crying and in the bathtub, off some where masturbating, well I sure hope that it (the masturbation) was worth the vision that you have in you mind, because the next vision you might be facing is  your wife laying in a casket, and living with the guilt that  you may be the reason that she committed suicide because you have just taken away the last piece of her life or self respect that she may have had left.  Because of your selfishness, not that you would not deserved it.
 
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