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Topic : 01/25 Secrets in the Suburbs

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How well do you think you know your neighbors, your friends and even your child's teacher? It is estimated that four to eight million people in North America are swinging in the suburbs -- mostly middle-class folks from all walks of life. Dr. Phil gives you a closer look at who these couples are who engage in sex with other twosomes. First up, Nita and Walter have been swinging for the last 12 years. They say they are happy in the lifestyle, so why does it cause tension in their relationship? Then, Brent says he has a strong yearning for he and his wife, Renee, to participate in a threesome. Renee says the idea disgusts her, but worries that if she refuses to join in, Brent will leave her. They fight constantly, often dragging their 17-year-old son into the middle of their chaos. Brent says he thinks about having threesomes every other day, but says that his desire is normal. What does Dr. Phil think? And, Dr. Phil viewers weigh in and share their thoughts about the swinging lifestyle. Join the discussion.

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January 25, 2008, 2:27 pm PST

What upsets me is that men don't realize.....

What upsets me is that men don't realize that it is much easier for a woman to cheat on her husband and get away with it, than a man cheat on his wife........

 

My husband was waching a show called "Curb Your Enthusiasm"  the episode was about a husband asking his wife to allow him to sleep with another woman as a 10th Anniversary gift..     So my husband says "Can i have that for our Anniversary..?"  I told him, "Sure, in another lifetime!"    Sometimes he jokes about it. but I wouldn't be surprised for the man works with alot of women...    but it makes me think, what if this is something that's been going through his mind and he was waiting for the right moment to mention it?   i would never have asked him something like that, GOD FORBID, HE"LL DIVORCE ME!!!!!

 

I've had men flirt with me and I've found some of them attractive, but not to want them in my private scene..........

 
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January 25, 2008, 2:27 pm PST

Swingers

I think it is totally wrong to go out side the marriage, no matter what.  When you take your vows your suppose to take them serious.  If a man wants to go outside the marriage I feel that  it shows he is not totally in love with you.

 

 

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January 25, 2008, 2:28 pm PST

swingland

 I have been in the lifestyle off and on for over 25 years. When I was living with my latest boyfriend I brought the subject up but since he was not interested that is as far as it went. We ended up breaking up after 7 years due to jealousy issues on his part. I got a backbone and left. During the time we were seperated I returned to the lifestyle because I felt comfortable being in that environment. Recently my boyfriend and I got back together and I revealed to him what I had been doing during the year and a half we were apart. This time he seemed interested and I decided to let us try. Knowing the jealousy issues he had in the past I never thought this would work. Lo and behold it cured his jealousy issues. The best part about swinging is when the playtime is over and its just the 2 of us the sex is great. Swinging is something we do maybe once a month. Sometimes we go to the swing club  not looking for anyone else. It is a chance for me to be able to wear sexy outfits that I would never have the nerve to wear anywhere else but the bedroom. Within swingland there are rules. The first one being "No means no." Its not just one big free for all.  Swinging is not for everyone but if you do decide it is something that you want to try please be upfront and discuss any issues you think this might create and be honest with your feelings with each other.
 
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January 25, 2008, 2:28 pm PST

It has made me vomit

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That makes me want to vomit
ever since I posted this I have been in a horrible spiral. I think I need help
 
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January 25, 2008, 2:28 pm PST

01/25 Secrets in the Suburbs

 People can say that this "lifestyle" affects only the consenting adults.  Well, say that after one of them has a break down and their little sister has to come peel them off the floor after a three day, guilt-ridden drunken binge over their "lifestyle" choices.  My beautiful, smart, talented sister let her slug of a hubby talk her into the threesome lifestyle then left her when her looks faded after she got cancer. ( He would still visit her to tell her of his new girlfriend and their swinging adventures because that is the type of class act he is).  I will never forget destroying filthy photos on the first anniversary of our wonderful father's death while my sister lay dying in the other room so our mother wouldn't find them later.  I remember being glad Dad wasn't around to have seen what I did.  I never consented to this "lifestyle" but it sure as heck affected me!  People need to quit thinking with their crotches and have some integrity.
 
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January 25, 2008, 2:28 pm PST

your community DOES know you swing!

How absurd to think the people in your community don't know you swing.  In my state, Just about everyone in one small  town of under 5,000 people know about the swinging of a psychologist, elementary school principal, a couple of lawyers, and some other so-called elite in this town.  They act as though they are the ones everyone in the community should look up to.  They look down at the people who wait on them in their country club and come accrss judgemental of others for not making as much money as they do. 

If the couples on the Dr. Phil show think that know one knows their secret, they are truly not in tune with others in their communities.  And please don't think others are envious of this lifestyle.  Most of the people in this small  town think the swingers are a joke or just very sad people.

 
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January 25, 2008, 2:29 pm PST

living this nightmare too

I can sympathize with her, I married a friend from my hometown in 2006 and moved 1200 miles to Texas only to learn his intentions were to persuade me to live the lifestyle with him. I am saving money on the side to go home. Its a nightmare to be put into this kind of situation.
 
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January 25, 2008, 2:29 pm PST

Women are SO Naive

I am always amazed at just how naive women are about male sexuality, sexual needs, fantasies and desires.  Just because the wife is happy with her sex "life" doesn't mean the husband is.  I have been in the lifestyle for years and virtually all my additional male partners are MARRIED men.  Their wives are clueless to their husbands' real sexual needs. The think that a few minutes of missionary in the dark under the covers sex a few times a month is sufficient. Yet I see these men literally starving for lights on kinky fun creative sex. Lingerie. Role playing. Use of porn. And yes, even threesomes, foursomes and more-somes. All between consenting adults. Many of these women are married to bisexual men and don't have a clue about that either. So while you condemn swingers, you better realize that in all likelihood your husband is doing a little something on the side, even if it is enjoying "himself" via computer porn.  Get a reality check!

 
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January 25, 2008, 2:30 pm PST

01/25 Secrets in the Suburbs

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3-Somes = transmitted diseases.  How is one to (really) know if the partners have a clean bill of health?.  I don't believe people tell the truth about their sexual health; too many are being diagnosed with HIV and other STD's.

 

Like Dr. Phil says:  'And how's that workin' for ya?'. 

First, not all of us have unprotected sex. Although, I can say that not all are safe when playing. For us, that is our number one rule....SAFETY. If the other couple does not agree to be safe aswell, we DO NOT play! What you are equating this to, is like when AIDS first came to light and it was known as a "gay" disease. The fact is that diseases are apart of any lifestyle, it is what you do to prevent them that counts!

 
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January 25, 2008, 2:30 pm PST

same thing, just change the name

l love how when people want to sin they just change the name for conscious sake. No matter how you re-label, rename, repackage it, it's still adultery. This is the very case here. Judgment,  hey, they are already under judgment--- by the 7th commandment.  Rename it and you can do it, that is their motto!!! So when Solomon wrote in Ecclesiastes "nothing new under the sun" well just maybe; a new name for the same old thing!!!!

 

Jackie

SanAntonio

 
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