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Created on : Saturday, September 29, 2007, 09:23:47 am
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How well do you think you know your neighbors, your friends and even your child's teacher? It is estimated that four to eight million people in North America are swinging in the suburbs -- mostly middle-class folks from all walks of life. Dr. Phil gives you a closer look at who these couples are who engage in sex with other twosomes. First up, Nita and Walter have been swinging for the last 12 years. They say they are happy in the lifestyle, so why does it cause tension in their relationship? Then, Brent says he has a strong yearning for he and his wife, Renee, to participate in a threesome. Renee says the idea disgusts her, but worries that if she refuses to join in, Brent will leave her. They fight constantly, often dragging their 17-year-old son into the middle of their chaos. Brent says he thinks about having threesomes every other day, but says that his desire is normal. What does Dr. Phil think? And, Dr. Phil viewers weigh in and share their thoughts about the swinging lifestyle. Join the discussion.

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January 25, 2008, 2:30 pm PST

01/25 Secrets in the Suburbs

Quote From: bcaffee

  No intelligent person would have a lifestyle of this manner!!  And if you don't like what Dr. Phil does on his show   DON"T WATCH IT!!!  How was the show one sided!! Are you sure you saw the same Dr. Phil show as myself?? or are you that demented!! 
         That comment you wprtoe os very uneducated, Dr. Phil admmited to being on sided about the topic. Are u a child? Because name calling aure makes you sound like one. Im sure you have made aome unitelligent choices in your life, who are you to judge other peoples lifestyles. Im not even in the "swinger lifestyle." but never would a act like I am better than someone who is, or call them names. Grow up
 
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January 25, 2008, 2:30 pm PST

I'm a swinger

I am a swinger with my fiance and have been for 4 years.  My biggest advice for those of you considering it, or  my explanation for those of you who disagree is all based in respect.  When my fiance gets a little pushy,  as soon as I say no, he knows to repsect me.  I respect the fact that I know he has a drive for this, and he respects that my interests are not as extensive as his.  We also put strict rules in place before anything happens.  That is a MUST!  If something spontaneous happens it can derail the whole experince very fast and leave one  (or both) of you upset and hurt.  In my case, he has an amazing  attraction to watching me experience other men, so that is all we do.  The only time another girl was involved, something spontaneous happened and things got tough.  Now he knows that I don't want that, and he is comfortable with that.  I chose the men, persue them, and tell them that my fiance must be there and most are ok with that. 

Basically, no matter what you choose to do, or who with, you MUST be honest, open, respectful, caring, and supportive or things will be awful.  Nobody should ever feel pressure from the person that supposedly loves them, and you should never push someone you love.  This can be a fun, exciting, thrilling experience, but it can also be very negative fast.  You must be honest to your partner, and with yourself about how you really feel.  If you can do that, then you may find a sense of freedom and thrill never before experienced by sexual experience proir to that. 
 
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January 25, 2008, 2:31 pm PST

This is borderline sexual assault!

This is crazy!  This disgusting husband is trying to coerce his wife into sexual acts that she doesn't want to participate in by threatening to cheat on her!  It is one thing for two people in a relationship want to participate in this because they're two CONSENTING adults.  However, him trying to force her is sick.  This woman needs to leave this dirtpig NOW.  To sit there and be threatened with infidelity brings down her dignity.  She needs to move on because this man does not care about her or her feelings.  This dirtpig needs to go out and find someone he can control and she needs to find someone who respects her decisions.
 
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January 25, 2008, 2:31 pm PST

in a good word

My husband and I have been married for 9 years. I came in with 2 of my own and we had 2 together. The last 2 were 14 mounths apart. Let me tell you...That was a killer on our marrige. We lost so much being so busy. after a few years we talked so much about how to bring us closer. and is talking about our fanticys we thought about swinging. we have been doing this lifestyle for almost 2 years now. and we really are having a great time. every time we have a "play Date" it is always talked about after.. how we felt..good and bads.  I do belive that there are couples out there that the "lifestyle" adds to the marrige. and that is what my husband and I always make sure that is the feeling that we are BOTH having. and we have an agreement. that when one of us doesnt want this any more...its done...thats it. I also agree that there are alot of couple out there that are doing this for the wrong reasons. we have met a few... and stay away from that. We are in this lifestyle for eachother.... NOT for ourselves. he would so say the same thing.
 
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January 25, 2008, 2:31 pm PST

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If you are in a marriage, it's supposed to be between just the two of you. Marriage is between husband and wife, and part of marriage is a sexual relationship. I know a lot of people today do not look at it this way, but the marriage bed is supposed to be special and intimate. And if you have that kind of relationship with other people, it destroys that. You are supposed to be for each other and for each other only. It's sad that so many people look at sex as just something fun and exciting and causal. It's supposed to be fun and exciting, but it's also supposed to be special, intimate, and only between husband and wife. I would never want my husband to do that to me, and I could never do it to him. I agree with Dr. Phil, it's not something that should be judged or looked down on, and that's not what I'm doing. It's just my opinion and my belief that it's not something that could possibly be good for you, your spouse, or your marriage. Even if it's fun now, it's more than likely going to end up destroying your relationship. Love your show, Dr. Phil!

 
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January 25, 2008, 2:32 pm PST

Swinger life style

I believe this life style is a very said thing that any person would subject their partner to do. Marrage is to be very special between two people. If you do reach a stagnet place in your  sexual  relationship, you need to talk to each other and work out other  differnt sexual pleasures and encounters with each other. Books, movies, and even toys that both of you might want to try for each other. Don't feel embarrest with each other ( key is each other) They say varity is the spice of life, make that a varity of different things with each other. To me if you have to start looking for things outside of the relationship, you will be starting the beginning, of the end of the relationship. It's got to be an emotional hurt to have your partner  want someone else in order to make your relationship feel better.  

Judy in Nebraska

 
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January 25, 2008, 2:33 pm PST

01/25 Secrets in the Suburbs

1st off, there is something that alot of people are not realizing.....when a wife/husband team "plays with" another person, there really isn't any "INTIMACY" with the other person.  I know this may sound bad, but the other person, most times, is thought of by the couple as nothing more than just another sex toy....an "object."   My husband and I, many years ago, experimented and had a couple of threesomes with other women, and that is how we both viewed it.  It never caused any problems or feelings of jelousy.  We stopped, simply because I was bored it.  In our experiences, afterwards, we always felt closer as a couple.......as if we had completed a project or did something together.  It did bond us sexually.  I never felt threatened by another woman, because I knew that my husband enjoyed the visuals and the participation THAT I LET HIM HAVE.   My husband and I had a good life together (children, own a house, etc.) and I knew he would never do anything that might cause him to lose those things.  Also, in layman's terms.....as a wife, I didn't worry about him leaving you because I knew I was  being a "cool" wife, doing things with him that another woman might not do!    BUT, it is not something I care to participate in these days, simply because I don't have the sex drive that I used to have.  And because sometimes, the process of asking the other women, just made me feel like a PERV and that part, to me, seemed to be more work than what it is worth.  I got bored with it.....it always started the SAME way, the sex was the always SAME thing, and......I get bored easily. 

 
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January 25, 2008, 2:33 pm PST

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 So... I may only be 27... ok 28 but as I have learned all couples have 1 shared component in common. Children, Travel, something. When you are a swinger it seems like that would be the shared thing. So what happenens when you are 80, what do you talk about in the nursing home?.... gives the phrase "Oh me and Grandpa are just out by the pond "swinging" and watching the ducks. ewwwwwwww..... ok I think I just scared my self.
If my boyfriend of 5 years ever asked me to do this.... yep, he would have a shovel or the closest hardest thing I could find upside his head.
Oh and by the way I am PROUD to be a southerner and I am here to tell you, we may have a stripper pole in the basement but at least it is not in our front window.
Oh and by the way what does the swinger say to his wife when they are getting ready to go out and she looks gorgous... "Man honey you look beautiful.... that is one lucky guy or girl that gets to make you tingle tonight... oh don't worry I'll be right over there in the corner" ummmm... you want to see her sexual facial expressions .... buy a video camera!
And the kids.... I have 3, I would be like a turtle hiding in his shell if my kids even knew that I had sex.
They ask where they came from and we tell them Wal-Mart and if they are not good we are going to take them back.

Wal-Mart! lol

 

I hope they know that you would not really take them back

 
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January 25, 2008, 2:33 pm PST

play?

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My husband and I have been together for 30 years and swinging for 12. We enjoy it and have made great friends outside the bedroom. However, we have seen less secure couples fall apart as they are using the Lifestyle like some people have children - just to keep the relationship going.

 

Its not a moral dilemma since we are both comfortable and enjoy going home and enjoying each other. Rather than a moral choice its a personal choice - some can and some cannot. I will say we never play with anyone unless we have met them first and find them compatible socially. Our group consists of 20 couples that drift in and out.

Seriously- play?  that word alone gives it what it is- immaturity in an adult act.  You all say it is a personal choice, not a moral dilema?  Well thankfully that is recognized, there is nothing moral about having sex outside of marriage and apparently morals don't come into 'play' at all with this choice......and no matter how you justify or 'play' it- this is cheating, infedelity, selfishness..........and less 'secure' couples fall apart?  What is secure about your relationship?  NOTHING....if you have to seek pleasure meant for marriage outside of marriage then neither of you is confident or secure enough to be in a marriage.  Why get married?  You know who you go home with?  I like how Dr. Phil said it, "but what if he/she is worn out?"  I will tell you, it is not going home with that one person, it is going home with each and every person you both are with.........I could go on for days.  Wrong is wrong and it just really gets me when seemingly intelligent people try to 'hide' behind excuses.............
 
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January 25, 2008, 2:34 pm PST

Close minded people

 

Do you people even read what u are putting OMG Just because the lifestyle is not for you does NOT and i will repeat does NOT give you any rights to judge others or any of the other BS that's being said. My husband and I are both swingers in fact i asked him about it about 2 years ago we have been together for 5 almost 6. We are in it not to "spice up" our marriage as there is something wrong with our sex life because there's not but we do it to add more excitement to an already fulfilling sex life.  I run a day care and no i don't put i my front door what i am but i take excellent care of the kids in my control just because i am a swinger does not mean i would ever put kids in jeopardy in any way shape or form. I have 2 kids of my own and if i had found some one in the lifestyle that would take care of them as i do i would trust them with them. The last couple on the show is NOT what swinging is about and they 1 need to stay away from the lifestyle 2 he needs to get some serious help for trying to force her into any thing and 3 she needs to dump his azz and move on already. and that is even if he does get the help as she is not going to feel better about her self until she does. WE personally would rather be around swingers as they are ones that are laid back and looking for friends first then if EVERYONE clicks then play unlike "regular" people who would rather cheat on their spouses and lie only want one night stands and then nothing else or just that fact that most on this board proved that some non swingers r so freaking close minded that who would want to be around them. don't knock it unless you tried it then come talk to me about being unmoral and blah blah blah.  My husband and i make love but we have sex with others outside of our marriage. There is a difference between the 2 one has more intimacy then the other one does. I love my husband with all my heart and my soul and i know he feels the same about me if there ever comes a time that either of us didn't want to do this any more then we wouldn't no questions asked no getting mad we are a couple and we play as a couple and our communication skills have actually only gotten better because of it because with out that u shouldn't be in the life style.  If u actually made it though this then i will Say i am sorry it is so long and hopefully i am making my point as just reading most the posts had me seeing red and i can go forever when it is a topic that no one understands and doesn't want to understand but will judges others for it

 
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