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Topic : 01/25 Secrets in the Suburbs

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Created on : Saturday, September 29, 2007, 09:23:47 am
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How well do you think you know your neighbors, your friends and even your child's teacher? It is estimated that four to eight million people in North America are swinging in the suburbs -- mostly middle-class folks from all walks of life. Dr. Phil gives you a closer look at who these couples are who engage in sex with other twosomes. First up, Nita and Walter have been swinging for the last 12 years. They say they are happy in the lifestyle, so why does it cause tension in their relationship? Then, Brent says he has a strong yearning for he and his wife, Renee, to participate in a threesome. Renee says the idea disgusts her, but worries that if she refuses to join in, Brent will leave her. They fight constantly, often dragging their 17-year-old son into the middle of their chaos. Brent says he thinks about having threesomes every other day, but says that his desire is normal. What does Dr. Phil think? And, Dr. Phil viewers weigh in and share their thoughts about the swinging lifestyle. Join the discussion.

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January 25, 2008, 3:12 pm PST

swinging lifestyle

 my marriage ended after 25 years due to this.   He like your guest said that if i didn't he would find someone who would do it for him and he did.  As Dr. Phil said.  I would rather be alone healthy than with someone sick.  I left the marriage giving him everything because I didn't want this publicaly displayed in court and get back to our sons.  They were grown but I felt this information about their father was something they should not know.
 
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January 25, 2008, 3:13 pm PST

01/25 Secrets in the Suburbs

dear dr phil, i saw your show today about swingers and the lady whos husband is trying to make her have sex with his friend, and how sick it made her, i would just like to say that i know what he was thinking, in his mind, THAT HE IS THE DEVILL, he is sickning and it made me want to throw up i felt so bad for that lady and she needs to know that she is living and married to a devil. HE desperatly needs to consult a priest and get MAJOR help, i too agree with you that the seventeen year old should have  not even had to hear about this. And the couple that was on the show first repulsed me that he got enjoyment out of seeing his wife with another man, what a devil, and that the wife goes with men and WOMAN the whole lifestyle is the work of the devil and those people need to wakeup and bathe in HOLY WATER,amen brother. By the way i love your show and i admire you, and someday even might become a psychologist, thanks for listening because your the one who got me started on this letter by telling me to come on your website and talk about stuff so anyways have a great day im going to go order a pizza now.

Love; Mary

 

 

 
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January 25, 2008, 3:13 pm PST

secrets in the suburbs

 I can relate the the last couple on the show today...I was married to a man who thought it was okay to "swing" with other people...He would go as far as calling me at work to tell me that we would be going to someones house and have sex...i would also become physically ill..after it was over he would tell me how much he loved me and want to have sex again...of course he wouldnt put it so nicely...the first time it was supposed to be a couple but the woman wasnt there...but the man was and while this man had sex "on" me my husband masturbated....the 2nd time was a couple...the 4 of us were all in the same bed...while he was having sex with her and performing oral sex on her he would have "HI" to me...he told me it was okay for the man to have intercourse with me but he was forbidden to kiss me...go figure....As far as the first couple is considered whatever float your boat...but the 2nd couple ...my heart goes out to and i hope she gets up the courage to stand up for herself.  It took me 7  years to do it..
 
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January 25, 2008, 3:15 pm PST

swingers

about todays show, just putting my thoughts out there I have been married for almost 4 years my husband is gone a lot that it his line of work, we have had issues in the past, he had told me after we got married that he was with another guy in fact this was while he was in middle school, after finding this out I was of course distrought , i was going to leave him but then we ended up getting pregant... and last year it was brought up that he taked about swingers and posted a page on a web cite- I was shocked that he knowling said that he was bi- I was outraged that he could be feeling like again, I felt betrayed and was wondering why he would do this- he wouldn't listed as bi unless he still felt this way- when I confronted him about what I found and that he was on a cite like that looking for other couples, it makes me wonder who I married and wather he is truly bi and just in like hiding mode. he told me that he wanted this as a fantsy in the bed room and that was all if nothing came of it the that was fine- he later took the page off the cite but I still think that this is what he wants and that I can't give him what he wants and that is why he was looking at these cites, I am against it and I just wonder if there is something more then what is truly on the surface.what does this mean for us as a cupple who has a family.
 
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January 25, 2008, 3:15 pm PST

Morality vs. Sexuality

Here is the inherent danger of applying "morality" to "sexuality":

 

I'll bet everyone reading this can agree that Florence Nightingale was a wonderful and moral person. She saved a lot of lives, and cleaned a lot of bedpans...but what if she was a "swinger"? Would she suddenly be immoral?...what about all of her life's accomplishments? Those of us in the lifestyle are just as apt to be a terrific friend and neighbor to the rest of you.

 

If you *really* want to discuss morals, the most heinous, barbaric acts done throughout history have all been done in the name of what certain people believe to be the will of God. The crusades, the inquisition, the Kafir Qasim massacre, the holocaust, & 9/11 were all done in the name of religion, and because people were convinced thay were performing a service to God. The one comonality in all religion is that it views sex and sexuality as "immoral".

 

For those of you who find this lifestyle reprehensible, please keep in mind that no one is forcing it on you. It is bigoted, self-righteous, and indignatious to tell others how they should beleive in God, what they can and cannot do in their bedroom...and most importantly...when someone attempts to apply their morals on others.

 

If this lifestyle is not for you...great....good luck...I mean that. But physical monogamy is not the *only* path to a successful marriage.

 

 

 
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January 25, 2008, 3:15 pm PST

Please, please stop and count the costs

I was in tears as I watched today's show.  I have survived a marriage of 37 years that has been threatened many, many times by my husband's insistence that his "needs" had nothing to do with his love for me.

Now, in our 60s, our friends have abandoned us  because they are uncomfortable now that he is reduced to desperation, practically begging for attention by flirting with anything that wears a skirt.  I have spent a lifetime of arguing, standing my ground, trying to reason, threatening to leave, and finally ended up settling for less than 100% of his committment.  I have paid a great price.  Looking back, if I had it do over, I would "kick his ass to the curb."  If he came back willing to forsake all others, I would have had the happiest life imaginable.  If not, then at least I would have been healthy though alone.

 
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January 25, 2008, 3:16 pm PST

01/25 Secrets in the Suburbs

Quote From: tanagah

it is very wrong to swaap your wife or husband.

When God made man in the garden  he deceided to make woman  not  women or men . he said a man should cleave to his wife . he never said threesome or swaping  if he wanted that he was going to create man and two women or  woman with two men. or even swapping

ummm....Isn't the Bible pretty full of examples of polygamy?
 
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January 25, 2008, 3:16 pm PST

common sense!!!!

After reading some of the messages on here, I would like to address something:  So many women are on here saying that their husbands only look at them, only want them, blah, blah, blah.  Yea, he might tell you that cause that's what he wants you to believe!  The real truth of the matter is that EVERYONE  does or has fantasized  (even if only in their minds) about other people!  And not allowing your husband to watch porn????  Or complaining that your husband masturbates??  What kind of controlling "person" are you???   Believe me, if you try to control EVERYTHING a man does with his penis, he WILL rebel.....weather you know about it or not!   A person should never be made to feel bad about masturbating or watching some occasional porn.  It's normal!  It is human nature!   Be glad he is watching some porn at home, instead of spending YOUR money at a strip club.....be glad he's masturbating with HIMSELF, instead of with another woman!  C'mon ladies......keeping his leash THAT short will ensure that when he DOES break loose every now and then, that he will seek all those things you have forbid him to do!!!!!   

 
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January 25, 2008, 3:16 pm PST

What are they thinking

I am just wondering if any of these people who believe in swinging , have they ever taken  the time to read the bible? For $29.95 you could buy a bible and change your life in amazing ways versus $5,000.00  for a new couch to change your life in devastating ways , what are they thinking? Zoieshar
 
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January 25, 2008, 3:17 pm PST

Swingers

My opinion on this subject is simply what do you say in your marriage vows? I will keep myself only to him or her i think that just about sums it up. If you want more than one person you don't get marriedalso whether people want to acknowledge it or not they are promising God those vows as well as each other. Thanks, Regina Hixson
 
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