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Created on : Saturday, September 29, 2007, 09:23:47 am
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How well do you think you know your neighbors, your friends and even your child's teacher? It is estimated that four to eight million people in North America are swinging in the suburbs -- mostly middle-class folks from all walks of life. Dr. Phil gives you a closer look at who these couples are who engage in sex with other twosomes. First up, Nita and Walter have been swinging for the last 12 years. They say they are happy in the lifestyle, so why does it cause tension in their relationship? Then, Brent says he has a strong yearning for he and his wife, Renee, to participate in a threesome. Renee says the idea disgusts her, but worries that if she refuses to join in, Brent will leave her. They fight constantly, often dragging their 17-year-old son into the middle of their chaos. Brent says he thinks about having threesomes every other day, but says that his desire is normal. What does Dr. Phil think? And, Dr. Phil viewers weigh in and share their thoughts about the swinging lifestyle. Join the discussion.

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January 25, 2008, 3:36 pm PST

My story

In my first marriage, my husband wanted to try swinging. ( I honestly think he had a hidden fantasy of being with a man) We did have threesomes with a couple of his friends. Then a foursome with his best friend and his wife. At first I thought it was  exciting, rebellious, "bad" But then I started thinking, you know, happily married couples don't DO this!  From personal experience, I KNOW this lifestyle leads to cheating.

If your husband or wife is willing to "share"  you with someone else, what's to stop you from doing it on    your own? I  left him and found someone who wants to be with me and only me. I couldn't be happier!

 
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January 25, 2008, 3:36 pm PST

Secrets in the Suburbs/been there

well I have to say I was apart of this situation at one time.There is no way this is a healthy life style.

I"ll I can say is ,after the last situation ,my husband and I agreed this was not for us, its not worth it.Are deal was that we thought we had a couple we strictly did business with, then find out they were all over the town hooken up with couples,when we thought differently .Yuck!, I don't want a STD,tell ya the truth don't know why I ever thought this was a good sexual fantasy to live out,.Safe? I think not! thank GOD my husband and I both decided to get out! For all the swingers out there good luck but I promise you one thing you never win!

 
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January 25, 2008, 3:36 pm PST

your answer:

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It would be interesting to find out why these couples like to swing with other couples.  Is it that they are bored in their relationship?   Does this give them an excuse to have an affair with someone else and have it open.  I would like to know why people are interested in this.  If a person truly loves their spouse, they wouldn't want them to have sex with someone else.   To me, these people are dysfunctional and don't think normally.  It's seems  they lack a consciousness.

 

"Love" has nothing to do with it.  Why is so hard to understand that there is a difference between love and sex??   It's a bonding thing to do with your partner, the same as using a sex toy.  That's how you view the 3rd person or the other couple, nothing more than a sex toy.  Maybe some people are satisfied with the same old, same old all the time.....but others are not.  It's a way to explore TOGETHER something new, a new way to see your partner. 

 
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January 25, 2008, 3:36 pm PST

Dr. Phil didn't do a good job....

explaining what swinging really is. That's why there are so many confused people on this message board.
He needs to do another show just on swinging.
 
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January 25, 2008, 3:37 pm PST

got some exxxperience on this one

Oh the eternal male fantasy of 2 women.  Well, I can tell you that I did it with my first husband and a close friend of mine.  I wanted to and wasn't "forced" .  I was curious about what it would be like with another girl and they both agreed so we did. BIG MISTAKE.  It ruined our relationship in the long run.  Not right away but over time.  I found out that they met a few times without me and it bothered me.  I was confused, not sure whether I had a right to be angry or if I should just deal with it because I opened the door.  So I delt with it and we had a few more three somes (and twosomes).  I couldn't handle it emotionally anymore so after some huge discussions we did stop.  But time passed and because that was ok before, he cheated.  He cheated a few times and I always let it go because I felt like I brought it on myself and had no right to be angry.  He then went to strip clubs, massage parlors, became obsessed with porn and even had some stuff going on online.  I didn't know how to handle it so I just grew resentful.  I started to loose respect for him, for myself.  I got to the point where I couldn't be intimate with him because he made me sick.  Well, we continued in our marriage and things were getting stronger between us and I was starting to let the past go and looked foreward to our lives together.  I decided that the past was the past and it could be used as a strength to improve our relationship.  A few years later, that feeling came over me that something was going on.  There was, he was cheating again and left me for another woman.  This was a few years ago and I've moved on and WOULD NEVER AGAIN HAVE A THREESOME.  I'm sure this works for some people but it didn't for me.  I just hope that before anyone does something like this that they understand that those few minutes of pleasure are not worth the years of pain and confusion.  I am still friends with the girl--we've been friends for many years before and after my husband years.  We don't do those things anymore and sometimes even laugh about it now but it still hurts me because I can't help but wonder if maybe we hadn't that my life and my marriage would have in a much better place.  Just give a lot of thought if you are thinking about doing it. Remember that after sex, the mind is at its clearest moments and thats when it will really hit you mentally. 

 
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January 25, 2008, 3:39 pm PST

01/25 Secrets in the Suburbs

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  You are so very right. I know cause we have been in the lifestyle for a number of years and LOVIN IT. Take care

Same with us 18 years in the lifestyle and we are still together and very much in love
 
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January 25, 2008, 3:39 pm PST

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It would be interesting to find out why these couples like to swing with other couples.  Is it that they are bored in their relationship?   Does this give them an excuse to have an affair with someone else and have it open.  I would like to know why people are interested in this.  If a person truly loves their spouse, they wouldn't want them to have sex with someone else.   To me, these people are dysfunctional and don't think normally.  It's seems  they lack a consciousness.

 

let me point out the once things u said.  QUOTE [if a person truly loves their spouse] its not about love .its about experiencing different touches. this is why it dont work  for amny. they cant seperate  the life style from love

 
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January 25, 2008, 3:39 pm PST

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  You are so very right. I know cause we have been in the lifestyle for a number of years and LOVIN IT. Take care

Yep, just because I DO frequent restaurants, doesn't mean I am addicted to food!
 
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January 25, 2008, 3:39 pm PST

my opinion missed the whole message.

I have heard alot of men say they would like to have a threesome with two other women.  I have rarely heard of a MAN wanting his wife to sleep with another man.  I believe If you want to be married, be married and if you don't GET A DIVORCE and sleep with who you wish without hurting anyone.  Does anyone feel like maybe this man is hiding wanting to have a relationship with another man.  He only brings up his best friend! (twice) and doesn't care about it hurting his wife!  Maybe there is another problem here!    Anyone agree?????
 
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January 25, 2008, 3:39 pm PST

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For those that think this protects their marriage they are fooling themselves. My husband badgered me for months to try a swap with a couple that were our "best friends".  What a fool I was. Afte finally agreeing it happened (once) I felt so dirty that I could not face my other friends or family. I toldd my husband never again.

 

Interesting to discover that he and my best friend just wanted permission to begin an affair that within months ended both marriages and families. They moved in together within weeks and 13 years later I still have been unable to have a meaningful relationship. My self esteem was crushed and I struggle to justify why any man would want to be with me and if they did what motive do thay have.

 

I now dread my son's upcoming wedding where I have to socialize with these people who have caused me so much pain - what should be a happy occasion I am now seeing as another opportunity for these 2 people to renew the pain they cause dme so many yars ago.

 

So swing all you want but be prepared to be on the playground alone - trust your instincts don't let anyone convince you it will make your love stronger - I was such a fool to love him that much.  never again

Interestingly, your ex and his new bride have been together (and swinging) for thirteen years.  They are not on the playground alone.  You are.  I'm not saying they are right.  I am saying you need to deal with the self esteem issue that your ex's new wife apparently does not have.  Thirteen years is a long time to be alone!  Stop looking for other men's motives for being with you.  Enjoy your life!  Don't blame your divorce on swinging.  Be truthful, blame it on the mutual decision that you two were not right for one another. 
 
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