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Created on : Saturday, September 29, 2007, 09:23:47 am
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How well do you think you know your neighbors, your friends and even your child's teacher? It is estimated that four to eight million people in North America are swinging in the suburbs -- mostly middle-class folks from all walks of life. Dr. Phil gives you a closer look at who these couples are who engage in sex with other twosomes. First up, Nita and Walter have been swinging for the last 12 years. They say they are happy in the lifestyle, so why does it cause tension in their relationship? Then, Brent says he has a strong yearning for he and his wife, Renee, to participate in a threesome. Renee says the idea disgusts her, but worries that if she refuses to join in, Brent will leave her. They fight constantly, often dragging their 17-year-old son into the middle of their chaos. Brent says he thinks about having threesomes every other day, but says that his desire is normal. What does Dr. Phil think? And, Dr. Phil viewers weigh in and share their thoughts about the swinging lifestyle. Join the discussion.

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January 25, 2008, 4:46 pm PST

Why be with someone?

Las time I checked Marriage and honor, came hand in hand.These freaks are making m sick to know they dont think of it as wrong and want a good time.What about these people who really give their heart in thier marriage.They dont enjoy their spouse bein stimulated by something else.Its just plain Discusting and the will burn in hell for their sins.

 
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January 25, 2008, 4:46 pm PST

Helpful Suggestion for swingers guy

 regarding the swinging husband who said he was doing it so he could see his wifes movements during sex,,,,they have a new contraption just for that purpose,,,,,its called a "MIRROR,",,,,,,,get one, problem solved!!!!!!!
 
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January 25, 2008, 4:47 pm PST

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 Well, this "freak" things that if you really didn't care what I did behind closed doors you wouldn't be calling it a "sick lifestyle [that's not legitimate."

Assuming that I adhere to your monogomous-type of lifestyle is just as bad as assuming that I put "forsaking all others" in my marriage vows. You sure assume a lot, and you know what they say about assuming.

I have no "woe is me garbage" thank you very much.

-happy married swinger

I never used to believe in the swingers lifestyle until one day I tried it. What I do now is no ones business but mine. If Im not making it public then who are other people to judge. Im not setting a bad example for my kids. THEY DO NOT SEE IT AT ALL!!!!! I do not do anything in front of them. I am a single parent and am entitled to have a little adult time no matter what it maybe. The way I look at it is "Dont knock it until you try it".  You only live once so why not enjoy yourself in the meantime.

 

 

--enjoying lifes pleasures

 
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January 25, 2008, 4:47 pm PST

How Romantic!

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WE'VE BEEN MARRIED FOR 19 YEARS AND HAVE BEEN SWINGERS FOR 6 YEARS NOW. IT DOES NOT MEAN  WE LOVE EACH OTHER ANY LESS.. WE JUST WANTED TO ADD MORE SPICE TO OUR LOVE LIFE.. DON'T GET ME WRONG, WE'VE TRIED OTHER THINGS TOO.. LIKE ROLE PLAYING AND TOYS ETC.. BUT COME ON!  IF YOU HAVE STEAK EVERY NIGHT, DON'T  YOU GET TIRED OF IT AFTER A WHILE?  WE STILL LOVE  MAKING LOVE TO EACH OTHER  AND THAT'S  EXACTLY WHAT WE DO (MAKE LOVE ) BUT WITH OTHER COUPLES IT'S JUST  S.E.X. AND WE NEVER DO IT WITH THE SAME COUPLES ,SO THAT WAY  NO ATTACHMENTS CANBE MADE.. AND YES WE PLAY SAFE AND GET TESTED ON A REGULAR BASIS (WE'RE NOT IDIOTS)  LIKE DR. PHIL SAID ..WE ARE TWO CONSENTING ADULTS AND WHEN THE OTHER ONE WILL  DECIDE HE LONGER WANTS TO PLAY,WE ARE BOTH OK WITH THAT...     

"Come on honey we have to go to our monthly STD appointment.  We have a date with the Johnson's on Friday!"  

 

Sounds really romantic.

 
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January 25, 2008, 4:48 pm PST

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People like to say that if you swing or have group sex as a couple you are not committed.  Is sex the ONLY thing that commitment is based on?  Is there nothing else keeping relationships solid?  I have seen couples get torn apart by this...... but guess what...... they already had an excessive amount of problems in thier relationship, were not really respected by eachother, and didn't feel secure.  Only a truly commited couple can be successful while doing this.

 

Anybody we have played with has not been there to comfort me or my husband in trying times.  They haven't held my hair back as my husband has during morning sickness.  They haven't been my confidant and best friend.  In our relationship, our commitment is shown everyday.  And that doesn't include having intercourse everyday.  We don't celebrate anniversaries with them, they don't join in our family traditions, they don't have a bearing on our descisions.  They aren't there to fall asleep to every night.

 

They are there for a good time and good memories.  Just like any dinner party you've attended, it was something that you did with others and that you have memories of, is doesn't define your life or relationship.  Our playmates have (luckily) been fun, We engaged in good conversation and along with that good sex.

 

 

No sex isn't the only thing commitment is based on but it is one of the many things in a relationship that commitment is based on.  I  care and love my body too much  and my husband to much to be giving myself away to anyone who is not my spouse.

 

Sorry, but our comment, "Just like any dinner party you've attended, it was something that you did with others and that you have memories of, is doesn't define your life or relationship.  Our playmates have (luckily) been fun, We engaged in good conversation and along with that good sex."...just sounds creepy.

 

 
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January 25, 2008, 4:48 pm PST

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 Well, this "freak" things that if you really didn't care what I did behind closed doors you wouldn't be calling it a "sick lifestyle [that's not legitimate."

Assuming that I adhere to your monogomous-type of lifestyle is just as bad as assuming that I put "forsaking all others" in my marriage vows. You sure assume a lot, and you know what they say about assuming.

I have no "woe is me garbage" thank you very much.

-happy married swinger

 i have no "woe is me garbage" thank you very much.

HA!

 
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January 25, 2008, 4:49 pm PST

thinking this is sick!!!

I think this is sick!!! people can do what they want but when they go on national tv they need to be prepared to hear what people think. I am sad for these people because sex should be between 2 people who really love each other and shared with no one else, it is a special intimate moment with their partner. I consider this cheating and for the married couples who are swingers, they need to remember their vows. sex is not something to be shared with others and i do feel sad for the ones that are swingers because i'm sure it might be all fun and games now but in the future it will probably hurt thier relationship. they really need to sit down and think hard and long about things and the situation. This could ruin thier relationship and destroy hearts and not to mention destroy feelings, it almost seems like they don't have respect for each other or thier partners. what would happen if they fall in love with some one else or thier partner feels that the other person involved is better in bed then thier soul-mate???
 
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January 25, 2008, 4:51 pm PST

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Quote From: jules1965

My husband and I have been swinging going on 5 years.

My family is aware of it as are my grown adult children, even my MOTHER.

 

I think what shocked my mother (think old school'what would the neighbors think?)

So I went to a popular swing site, typed in my zip code, put in a 50 mile radius and viola, up popped over 500 couples......there mom, that's what my neighbors think.

She was aghast of course that so many people were swinging, not that my husband and I swing.

 

The thing about swinging is, there must be 110% agreement between the couple if they are wanting to try this.

They must be 2000% committed to their MARRIAGE.

They must set clear and unbreakable RULES for swinging, any violation of the rules and the swinging ends or the marriage will.

 

Protect yourself at all times, from pregnancy, disease, weirdos.

Never go with strangers, always get to know the people first (phone, internet, safe place to meet for the 1st time)

 

Swinging has not harmed our marriage whatsoever. We've had 3 somes (MFM and FMF as well as couples MF/MF)

If swinging has done anything to our marriage it has strengthened it, we have more trust for each other, our sex life..........well......just RULES!

 

We are open with each other, no secrets, no lying, the trust is amazing!! If both of us don't agree to a situation 110%.......we leave, simple as that.

 

Nobody can enter our marriage, they may enter our bed but not our marriage. We are a team and will remain until death do us part.

 

Swinging is absolutely NOT for everyone.

No partner should feel threatened, forced, or guilted into doing anything they do not want to do!

 

The couple coming on the show where the wife doesnt want to do it but feels pressure from her husband and is scared he'll leave if she doesn't go along with him.......

Face it, there are much deeper problems than just if his 'needs' or 'wants' aren't met or she doesnt do what HE wants to do.

 

Some people are not into swinging nor ever will be. It isn't right for everyone. (though the numbers are so high that fact has room for argument!)

 

One thing swinging has given us is a much deeper understanding of each other, has enhanced a very wonderful sex life too.

 

Mind you, this isn't an everyday thing or we spend time cruising, we're part timers......if we find a nice couple fine, if not, fine too.

Its been a year since we swung but we move across country and have been busy....if the mood strikes we'll search for like minded adults and see where it goes......our lives are not consumed by swinging, only positively enhanced  our marriage, IN and OUT of the bedroom.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 I don't know your age but will be willing to bet within 10 more years one of you will be out the door.

 
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January 25, 2008, 4:53 pm PST

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Las time I checked Marriage and honor, came hand in hand.These freaks are making m sick to know they dont think of it as wrong and want a good time.What about these people who really give their heart in thier marriage.They dont enjoy their spouse bein stimulated by something else.Its just plain Discusting and the will burn in hell for their sins.

Where are you checking?

 

Why do other people's choices make you sick? Are they forcing you to watch?

 

Do you not see the differences between a couple who honestly MUTUALLY decided they want this and one person being grudgingly talked into it???

 
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January 25, 2008, 4:53 pm PST

Swinging is adultery

This show really struck a chord with me, because I have been through this with my ex-husband. This is one of the reasons I divorced him. I never gave in to him about a threesome, but he always nagged me about it all the time. He wanted to see another man have "rough" sex with me. He swore he loved me with all his heart, but I found that hard to believe. You don't go and have sex with another person if you really love your husband or wife whatever the case may be. Not only is it an emotional thing, it is morally wrong. The Bible says it is adultery. Plain as black and white. With my ex it was a sexual perversion. I am glad to be rid of my ex and am now married to a wonderful man, that wouldn't think of hurting me like that.
 
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