Topic : 01/25 Secrets in the Suburbs

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Created on : Saturday, September 29, 2007, 09:23:47 am
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How well do you think you know your neighbors, your friends and even your child's teacher? It is estimated that four to eight million people in North America are swinging in the suburbs -- mostly middle-class folks from all walks of life. Dr. Phil gives you a closer look at who these couples are who engage in sex with other twosomes. First up, Nita and Walter have been swinging for the last 12 years. They say they are happy in the lifestyle, so why does it cause tension in their relationship? Then, Brent says he has a strong yearning for he and his wife, Renee, to participate in a threesome. Renee says the idea disgusts her, but worries that if she refuses to join in, Brent will leave her. They fight constantly, often dragging their 17-year-old son into the middle of their chaos. Brent says he thinks about having threesomes every other day, but says that his desire is normal. What does Dr. Phil think? And, Dr. Phil viewers weigh in and share their thoughts about the swinging lifestyle. Join the discussion.

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January 25, 2008, 5:21 pm PST

Whats the SURPRISE??

Do Americans think that this is not happening?? Be honest... this is happening all over the place.

As long as it is happening with consenting adults what is the problem? Whatever happeneds

behind your bedroom door is noone elses concern. I would love to be part of this, but I live in a

small town that does not have access to any type of club talked about on the show. And If you are

busy with work & children, dont have the resourses or time to follow thru with this. When/ If that time

presented itself.... then it is something that both myself and husband would be game for.

 
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January 25, 2008, 5:21 pm PST

I am a selfish wife!

Well I guess I have to say that I am obviously a very selfish wife...I have NO desire to share my wonderful husband with anyone...I believe that sexual intimacy is the precious part of a marriage that makes it unique to any other relationship in your life.... I totally adore my husband, he happens to be the nicest person I have ever met and I would never entertain the idea of sharing part of what makes us unique with any other person...  When you truelly love someone you would never do anything to harm the love and RESPECT you have in your relationship...I dont care how open people are about inviting other people into their bedrooms, its wrong...just plain wrong, It confuses me .... what is lacking in their intimate relationships that they would need to invite other people for more excitement into their bedroom????....

The most exciting night for my husband and I is getting the kids to bed early and snuggling together on the lounge talking about our life together and how blessed we are to have such a wonderful loving family...That is the most intimate excitement of all!

 
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January 25, 2008, 5:24 pm PST

Sick in the Suburbs

These people really need help.  And they really need to read their bible! 
 
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January 25, 2008, 5:24 pm PST

Freaks?

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Where are you checking?

 

Why do other people's choices make you sick? Are they forcing you to watch?

 

Do you not see the differences between a couple who honestly MUTUALLY decided they want this and one person being grudgingly talked into it???

Freaks ?? Because a couple makes a decision that is not hurting anyone else involved that makes them FREAKS? I do thijnk that the second couple had issues. But the First couple was doing nothing wrong.

And again....if it is something that they burn in hell for.... are you going to be there with them????

Then dont worry about it. Its their lives and they are not knocking on your door to join in!

 
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January 25, 2008, 5:25 pm PST

mzsuyq2u

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I heard a phrase one day:

"The only perversion with sex is not doing it".

Ja, ja, in that case I'm most definitively not a pervert.

I also think that if a couple decides to talk about their sex lives with the children, it's their decision. All this mistery with sex makes children more curious and might send the wrong message... that sex is not a topic your parents want to talk about. If you are open they might see it as a normal human activity that takes place also in their parents bedroom.

People in this Board is so uptight...
A sex life between a married couple is NOT something to be shared with their children. They are called "children" for a reason.  It is not a matter of people on the board being uptight....it is a matter of right and wrong, and discussing your sex life with kids would fall under the category of "wrong"....When the time is right and when they are age appropriate, that is the time to talk to them  honestly and openly about sex.....
 

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January 25, 2008, 5:26 pm PST

01/25 Secrets in the Suburbs

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I think you misunderstood rainashley's message.  Read her entire message.  You both agree on the same thing as I do

Once I read agan, you are right, our opinions are different, thank God !  I don't swing and would never but you knock yourself out.

I couln't care less what you do

 

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January 25, 2008, 5:27 pm PST

"The Lifestyle"

I totally disagree with this lifestyle, I think it is wrong in so many ways. Some people say that it's not considered "cheating"??????? WHAT?! How is having sexual relations with someone OTHER than your partner not cheating? That is really confusing and disturbing to me that people actually think like that. I would be absolutely devastated if my husband brought this up. I would feel worthless and not up to his standards (which I know I am) so I know I don't have to worry. What are wedding vows for when you are not living up to them? Bottom line, I just find this lifestyle disgusting.
 
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January 25, 2008, 5:28 pm PST

That brought back memoried

That man that made his wife do it, that is RAPE. That was

Coercion is the practice of compelling a person to behave in an involuntary way (whether through action or inaction) by use of threats, intimidation or some other form of pressure or force. Coercion may typically involve the actual infliction of physical or psychological harm in order to enhance the credibility of a threat. The threat of further harm may then lead to the cooperation or obedience of the person being coerced.

That was wrong and made me cry about my own account of bein raped at 12.

 

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January 25, 2008, 5:29 pm PST

01/25 Secrets in the Suburbs

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 FYI we are not freaks! Swingers or people in the Lifestyle are normal people who just want to spice up their sex lives and last time i checked only God can judge a person and decide if they would be going to hell or not. Also in my opinion it is not a sin if both parties inthe relationship are agreed upon what is going on. 

Happily married swinger from the south

Easy as this.....if you know not one person can satisfy you, don't get married! It's wrong and disgusting.

 
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January 25, 2008, 5:30 pm PST

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That's the thing.....nobody bothers with morality anymore.  The world is heading in the wrong direction.  And as far as my life goes, what could be more perfect than a man and a woman who love eachother and their children.  And don't tell me that swingers do the same......they cannot possibly love eachother and swing.....they are selfish, non-caring individuals who think that nobody gets hurt in the end.  They could not be more wrong.  They are hurting themselves first.....then everyone else.  Imagine my parents...what would my father and my mother or in-laws think if we had the "life-style"?  God.....Imagine going out and blowing some other's husband....kind of gross.  What about doing it with Joe Schmoe's wife.  It just does not make any sense.

Morality is pretty subjective. I happen to think it is pretty immoral to call people selfish, non-caring, pigs, whores, etc. simply because they are not living according to YOUR moral code. How is what they are doing affecting YOU at all?

 

I am not for swinging. In a theoretical discussion, I could give plenty of reasons why I don't think it would be healthy, why it would make me uncomfortable in MY marriage, etc. However, I don't make the rules for everyone else. I don't get to decide what "makes sense" in every relationship. I have seen some "traditional", or what I consider chauvinistic, marriages that make NO sense to me....but hey! If OTHER people are happy like that, it doesn't affect me or my marriage ONE bit.

 

I am having trouble understanding why people get SO upset when OTHER people step outside their comfort zone or moral convictions.

 

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